Open 514: Monks and Masons in Serona - GAME OVER

Sakura Hana · Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:37 am

VOTE: Mala
Revenge time!

for voting

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[b]Vote: Player[/b]

Sakura Hana · Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:01 am

In post 13, Malakittens wrote:Hey.

Hey.

I didn't do anything. We both were paranoid and I hate long lylos.

Haha! i know that, i'm just kidding around so we can loosen up and be calm during the game

Sakura Hana · Post Post #22 (isolation #2) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:04 am

Oh my, someone's tense already? that's quite interesting
VOTE: Saki

Sakura Hana · Post Post #24 (isolation #3) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:08 am

In post 23, Saki wrote:
In post 22, Sakura Hana wrote:Oh my, someone's tense already? that's quite interesting
VOTE: Saki
yer wasting yer vote
throw it down on notscience

why notscience?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:30 am

In post 26, notscience wrote:Everyone voting the non-cc'd doctor is either scum or bad town

Or the real doctor

Sakura Hana · Post Post #40 (isolation #5) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:03 am

In post 32, RachMarie wrote:L-1?

whoops I did not realize that...

That's the Rach i know

In post 39, RachMarie wrote:No claiming at this point would be bad juju

I think you missed a , there

Sakura Hana · Post Post #50 (isolation #6) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:02 am

I thought i was dayvig?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #55 (isolation #7) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 11:46 am

In post 51, Syryana wrote:Nope. Just a normal vig. Or you'd have shot someone already.

Because no one catches my eye so far. Nice to be playing with you again btw

Sakura Hana · Post Post #88 (isolation #8) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:22 pm

In post 86, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:how can I be in rvs when I don't do rvs

If you're never in RVS how do you get info?... unless of course you don't need info
VOTE: 50SOP

Sakura Hana · Post Post #90 (isolation #9) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:29 pm

In post 89, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:mala plz deal with sakura tia

Asking others to answer questions for you? why?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #126 (isolation #10) » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:20 pm

if i take a guess, pirate mollie is one of the heads of 50 shades of purple

Sakura Hana · Post Post #143 (isolation #11) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:43 am

L-2 on D2, and let's add to it the fact that it's 7 to lynch, that means a 5 people wagon on page 2... that's certainly interesting, do you think there was scum in that wagon NS?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #144 (isolation #12) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:44 am

^
And if yes, who would be your possible scum in said wagon?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #146 (isolation #13) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:13 am

In post 145, notscience wrote:I'm thinking Marquis or RM.

Why is that? The game was pretty chaotic back then, so I'm wondering why you think their actions are concerning.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #148 (isolation #14) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 6:40 am

I agree with you
VOTE: Marquis

Sakura Hana · Post Post #152 (isolation #15) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:34 am

In post 151, Marquis wrote:surprising sakura's played like 2 games with me already not to mention the marathon ones so she should already know my meta by now

I have 2 finished games with you? I wasn't aware of it, and why would i grab meta off marathon games?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #182 (isolation #16) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:04 pm

In post 181, Saki wrote:Andy's a worthless CO

I agree, does that make Syryana scum tho?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #185 (isolation #17) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:28 pm

In post 184, notscience wrote:Why the fuck are there still people in RVS

No idea

Sakura Hana · Post Post #188 (isolation #18) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:38 pm

VOTE: Saki
Tbh, there's no reason you shouldn't be scumhunting at this point, and I can't see any towny reason for wanting to remaining in RVS.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #189 (isolation #19) » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:38 pm

God i derped the grammar on that last post, but you get the point.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #194 (isolation #20) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 12:41 am

In post 191, Saki wrote:VOTE: Sakura Hana
we've had this argument before, ya know

Dat OMGUS

Sakura Hana · Post Post #197 (isolation #21) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:07 am

In post 196, Nachopappa wrote:when in doubt, lynch Sakura

And on this side we got more RVS... i mean what the fuck was that Bert?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #202 (isolation #22) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:20 am

Well we got 2 claimed scums, would the other 2 like to claim too?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #206 (isolation #23) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:26 am

Because RVSing in the 8th page and OMGUS without good reason.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #211 (isolation #24) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:36 am

In post 207, notscience wrote:VOTE: Bert

He's making no attempts to get out of RVS even after being told to multiple times.

Is Bert not wanting to get out of RVS more scummy than Saki's OMGUS?

But wait Bert has an OMGUS too.......

I agree, Bert has more stuff on him.

VOTE: Bert

Sakura Hana · Post Post #213 (isolation #25) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:38 am

I'll come after you tomorrow, don't worry.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #217 (isolation #26) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:45 am

In post 216, Bert wrote:
In post 214, notscience wrote:You two have been posting just as much as myself and Sakura yet have made no avid attempts to get out of RVS.
And the rush to get out of RVS is because....

why???

Because it's anti-town

Sakura Hana · Post Post #221 (isolation #27) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:47 am

I suggest you both read this:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13710

P-Edit: You both as in Bert and Saki.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #222 (isolation #28) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:50 am

Tho anyone that wants to read it too is free to do so.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #225 (isolation #29) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:55 am

In post 224, Bert wrote:Were you trying to get towncred by showing us that link, Sakura? If so, huge FOS guys

Are ICs trying to get town cred on newbie games?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #228 (isolation #30) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:02 am

To start improving at mafia, reading articles, whether they be on the wiki or on the forum are a good start. I really see no reason why not to read information that could help you find scum better. Unless of course, you are scum.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #231 (isolation #31) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:09 am

That I wasn't doing that for town cred, I was doing that to give you more information regarding the RVS, the same way an IC explains mafia terms and how to play to newbies in a newbie game. It is irrelevant to my alignment.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #234 (isolation #32) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:38 am

Not reading it, yet you're enphazising the fact that you aren't readint it, why?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #236 (isolation #33) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:44 am

Too lazy to get information? what do you expect to get from voting me without a real reason?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #239 (isolation #34) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:45 am

Then why did you want to continue in RVS?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #241 (isolation #35) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:47 am

In post 240, Bert wrote:Who cares if Saki read the article or not

what does that have to do with anything

Everyone's actions are accountable during scumhunting, why do you care?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #245 (isolation #36) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:59 am

Bert, why are you ignoring my question? Why do you care so much about Saki?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #247 (isolation #37) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:01 am

Why do you care what i ask Saki?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #249 (isolation #38) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:08 am

What makes you think my question is pointless? Everything a player does in a game is driven by their wincon. and I have the right to question them about it which will give me more information.

You clearly didn't actually read the article either.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #255 (isolation #39) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:14 am

I am being sensitive because i detect some subtle defense/buddying there and has been noted.

What do you think about purple's vote on Mala?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #258 (isolation #40) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:17 am

Why is hydra dissonance a scumtell?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #260 (isolation #41) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:18 am

Saki, when do you plan on starting to scumhunt?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #264 (isolation #42) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:35 am

In post 262, Saki wrote:
In post 260, Sakura Hana wrote:Saki, when do you plan on starting to scumhunt?
I am. My vote's on you.

So? what have you gained from it?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #298 (isolation #43) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:40 am

Saki, where did you get that scumread from?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #300 (isolation #44) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:43 am

In post 299, Saki wrote: gaping logical holes

Where?

In post 299, Saki wrote: floppy vote

From 1 scumread to another scumread?

In post 299, Saki wrote: pushing me

How is that scummy?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #303 (isolation #45) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:54 am

In post 301, Saki wrote:
In post 300, Sakura Hana wrote:Where?
The whole 'extend RVS is scummy' 'not reading article is scummy' business

The former is indeed scummy, i do admit maybe the later one was a bit too much, but still, you should be striving to get information.

In post 301, Saki wrote:
In post 300, Sakura Hana wrote:From 1 scumread to another scumread?
So many already? Setting up multiple mislynches, huh.

What makes you think i'm setting up mislynches?

In post 301, Saki wrote:
In post 300, Sakura Hana wrote:How is that scummy?
'cause I'm town?

How am i supposed to know that? Specially if you haven't done anything pro-town the entire game

Sakura Hana · Post Post #305 (isolation #46) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:04 am

If I'm your main scumread, it means you already did scumhunt, can you cite since when was I your main scumread? with post number/link

Sakura Hana · Post Post #307 (isolation #47) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:09 am

Both of those happened after your vote, you voted me without asking me any questions nor any effort to attempt to discern my alignment, you're linking to your own posts, you aren't providing any examples of posts of me that made you think i'm scum.

I like you more over Bert
VOTE: Saki

Sakura Hana · Post Post #311 (isolation #48) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:13 am

In post 310, 50 Shades of Purple wrote:sakura who are your town reads

You and NS

Sakura Hana · Post Post #312 (isolation #49) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:14 am

In post 304, Saki wrote:That's all you have to say? 'A bit too much'? What makes you think I'm not trying to get information by extending RVS?

Because serious stuff is already happening, RVS is just you wanting an excuse to be random from what it seems.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #315 (isolation #50) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:18 am

Then why didnt you question people on their actions?
I already answered them.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #317 (isolation #51) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:26 am

Why is it that because it was RVS, they become immune to questioning about it?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #324 (isolation #52) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:35 am

In post 322, Saki wrote:I'm not a fan of handing out townreads left and right
in an attempt to get towncred

what

Sakura Hana · Post Post #325 (isolation #53) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:37 am

In post 319, Saki wrote:To clarify the second question I'm asking you whether or not you think I'm an easier lynch than the other players in the thread.

Not exactly, you are neither easier nor harder, you're scum tho, so you need to die, that scumslip on my previous post just confirmed it.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #328 (isolation #54) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:45 am

Only scum should be bothered with getting town cred, town should be bothered with finding scum.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #330 (isolation #55) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:47 am

Not providing reads is denying town of information btw.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #336 (isolation #56) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 9:53 am

Because i dont judge people for how easy they are to lynch, but for how scummy their actions are.

P-Edit: Reads are beneficial for town, mafia doesnt care about reads because they know everyone's alignment (tho that's a bit different here since it's multiball)

Sakura Hana · Post Post #340 (isolation #57) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:00 am

Ok let me rephrase that, mafia doesn't care about GIVING reads, they don't WANT to give reads because they already know everyone's alignment and so lying with their reads will be EASILY noticeable. Not wanting to give reads, caring about town cred over scumhunting, Not really scumhunting at all... seriously i can't believe how a single person would think you're town at this point.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #344 (isolation #58) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:06 am

Don't forget this game's a multiball tho, so even scum has to scumhunt.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #346 (isolation #59) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:08 am

Town cred.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #351 (isolation #60) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:15 am

So you'd push anyone that disagrees with you and agrees with me? that makes sense /sarcasm

P-Edit: Except... they you know, dont know who is werewolf from the town. (Same for wolves vs mafia)

Sakura Hana · Post Post #352 (isolation #61) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:16 am

In addition to 351's P-Edit:

Also the faster they take the other team that can shoot at them the better.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #357 (isolation #62) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:24 am

I didn't say you didn't want to push NS, what makes you think i did?

In post 354, Saki wrote:I'd rather not have to answer questions about 'omfg you thought he was town a second ago.'

Sakura Hana · Post Post #362 (isolation #63) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:29 am

Why would he be asking me a question if he agrees with me?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #371 (isolation #64) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:35 am

Scum doesn't want to take stances coz then they'd have to fake their story of how their reads switch if they do, and it'd be interesting looking at how they put their partners in their reads.

Oh look at just who that resembles.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #373 (isolation #65) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:43 am

Not really, it goes a long way, they'd need to put some town in their scum reads to mislynch them, it'd need to make sense, then that means they'd need to put scum in their town reads and it'd need to make sense, they'd need to explain their reads, and their changes, and lying is not easy.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #377 (isolation #66) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:47 am

Really? Where have i lied?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #386 (isolation #67) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:59 am

In post 384, Saki wrote:@Noctan
the fuck are you trying to say

@50
So not reading an article is a scumtell? Hmmm better post supermarket tabloids

"Genuinely Scumreading." Why would scum need to scumread anyone else? I don't think her scumread is anywhere near genuine.
If you're telling me my scumread is wrong I'm telling you it's right.
And why would I look beyond my top scumread? There aren't any special circumstances yet.

*flips a table*

Sakura Hana · Post Post #447 (isolation #68) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:08 pm

So Noctan is a stronger scumread than me, yet you're voting me?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #453 (isolation #69) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:10 pm

@Saki: Why are you townreading RM?
@Noctan: Scott HAS posted... i'd imagine you have a null on him due to lack of overall posts but why are you saying "hasn't posted"? Why do you think Saki's scum? Why do you think I am town?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #454 (isolation #70) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:11 pm

So you rather vote your weaker scumread over your stronger scumread?
that totally makes sense /sarcasm

Sakura Hana · Post Post #456 (isolation #71) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:12 pm

False logic where? Misrepping where?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #462 (isolation #72) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:17 pm

"threw out a name there randomly"

Do you realize we're out of RVS since several pages ago right?

I never intended to say you were scum for not reading it, re-read my post where I said that, I might have infered it, but was never my intention, my original reason for suspecting you was that you remained in RVS despite the fact that I was trying to drag us out of RVS by questioning you, then you OMGUS'd me, then Bert defended you with more RVS, then i showed the article about RVS, then you started acting anti-town overall, and then you told me that you voted me while you STILL HADN'T SCUMREAD ME, so that's why I voted you.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #468 (isolation #73) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:23 pm

Saki: The thing with you is that you're tunnelvisioning, you're only looking at things from YOUR Point of view, Look at it from my PoV as if I was town, would I know your alignment? No, then what do I do to know your alignment? constantly question your actions. Who has higher chance to be scum then? The people who are right now sitting there doing nothing like Scott or Marquis and just sitting back enjoying watching us rabble.

I still think you're scum tho, until you prove to me that you can actually engage in scumhunting without tunnelvisioning on 1 person.

P-Edit: You scumread me for trying to teach you, that's nice, I guess you lynch ICs on all your newbie games then.

Now tell me one thing Saki, what do you think it's the most optimal scum strategy in the current situation, and who do you think fits that model the most.

P-Edit x2: If it's a stronger scumread, it means that for YOU it has higher chances of flipping scum, so why would you be voting the one that has less chances of flipping scum?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #472 (isolation #74) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 1:28 pm

Also Saki, i'm not misrepping you, I asked you to show me where you scumread me, and you linked me posts that happened after your vote, which means that when you voted you weren't scumreading me.

P-Edit: Sure can, whenever they decide to get back into the game because I don't see how it's going to help talking to a wall, if they keep being innactive for longer i'll start pressuring them with votes tho.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #476 (isolation #75) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:10 pm

See you're not looking at things from my PoV, Town attacks other town too... why? because they dont know they are town! duh!

Said wagon was scum driven, so? quite interesting because you asked me to vote notscience...

I haven't seen him do anything suspicious, the only people here doing suspicious stuff are you, nocton or whatever his name is and Scott, so far.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #480 (isolation #76) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:24 pm

Well Saki, here's my last question for you, just to see if you can realize something.

The tone of my questioning on you changed somewhere along my posts, can you find where?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #486 (isolation #77) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:29 pm

I've been townreading you ever since the whole reads thing came into play, i kept pressuring you to make you realize why it's bad to tunnel people by continuing my pressure on you, yes I did lie about scumreading you from that point onwards, however I hope you have learned from this experience, and hope you have learned why your posts could be perceived as scummy helping scum jump onto you

VOTE: Marquis
I need you (and a few others) to start commenting, pitch in.

P-Edit: noctan if you're Mason and Monk, tell us who's your partner before you die, otherwise remove your vote and give us reasons for your reads, all of them.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #488 (isolation #78) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:29 pm

EBWOP: Mason or Monk*

Sakura Hana · Post Post #495 (isolation #79) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:33 pm

Because i'm trying to teach you, i'm showing you why doing what you were doing was a bad idea, only way to do it is engaging with you in questions, as you saw all other players agreed on what you were doing being scummy, and I wanted to show you why, since then, untli the PoV situation.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #503 (isolation #80) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:43 pm

In post 497, Saki wrote:
In post 495, Sakura Hana wrote:Because i'm trying to teach you, i'm showing you why doing what you were doing was a bad idea, only way to do it is engaging with you in questions, as you saw all other players agreed on what you were doing being scummy, and I wanted to show you why, since then, untli the PoV situation.
what am i supposed to say

'great job!'
'thank you!'

?

@noc
dammit

You aren't supposed to say anything, just learn from it and avoid making the same mistakes in the future

Sakura Hana · Post Post #505 (isolation #81) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:43 pm

tho you jumping it did feel like chainsaw just saying

Sakura Hana · Post Post #507 (isolation #82) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:45 pm

You still haven't answered my question tho?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #509 (isolation #83) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:46 pm

no that was directed at Nocton

Sakura Hana · Post Post #512 (isolation #84) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:47 pm

In post 511, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 507, Sakura Hana wrote:You still haven't answered my question tho?

Calm down I'm getting to it...

How are you "getting to it" I thought you had reasons for your reads, or are you making up reasons while we wait.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #515 (isolation #85) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:51 pm

I'm WAITING... couldnt you just have posted them earlier when you took quite some break since your last post?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #518 (isolation #86) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 2:54 pm

an hour and a half is a good enough time to get quotes or post links.

Also do remember he's scum reading you, so he's scum too?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #547 (isolation #87) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:35 pm

So you appear as soon as I mention you Marquis.
Noted.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #556 (isolation #88) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:58 pm

In post 551, Saki wrote:
In post 547, Sakura Hana wrote:So you appear as soon as I mention you Marquis.
Noted.
you aren't phased by the fact that my scumread on you has not disappeared yet?

Nope, why does it concern you?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #559 (isolation #89) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:07 pm

Speaking of reads, Bert what are your current reads and why?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #565 (isolation #90) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:27 pm

Not at all

Sakura Hana · Post Post #573 (isolation #91) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:41 pm

My job here is to hunt down scum, not to appeal to people. I do however have a thing for teaching others if you didn't notice by my very first post in this thread.

P-Edit: Woot?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #578 (isolation #92) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:55 pm

If i'm tunnleing you how did I get a scum read off Nocton? and a townread of 50 and NS? Tunneling means i'm not looking at anyone else right? Who was tunneling then, the one who did give her reads, or the one who didn't give a crap about giving reads.

Hint: if you tunnel you don't have reads on anyone else.

P-Edit: Saki, you just scumslipped...

Sakura Hana · Post Post #582 (isolation #93) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:03 pm

In post 578, Sakura Hana wrote:P-Edit: Saki, you just scumslipped...

I take this back, When i read that stuff in preview edit i thought it was only NS and Saki posting and i read Noctan's post as if it was Saki's, no scumslip there in that case.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #586 (isolation #94) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:12 pm

Not in his scenario, if you had said it it would have been seen as you accusing NS of voting their enemy, ergo, you being their enemy as in you admitting you're scum, from Nocton's perspective is not a scumslip because he cannot know your alignment unless you're both on the same team.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #591 (isolation #95) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:17 pm

In post 588, Saki wrote:
In post 586, Sakura Hana wrote:Not in his scenario, if you had said it it would have been seen as you accusing NS of voting their enemy, ergo, you being their enemy as in you admitting you're scum, from Nocton's perspective is not a scumslip because he cannot know your alignment unless you're both on the same team.
Ah. I see.
You're seriously not bothered by everything I'm saying now?

Yes i am because you haven't learned anything from what i was trying teaching you, your argument with NS and Nocton shows as much.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #594 (isolation #96) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:19 pm

In post 583, Saki wrote:
In post 581, NoctanNights wrote:VOTE: Saki

Sorry but that kind of proves things.
what the fuck

you know I FOS anyone that votes me

yet you vote me

Do you seriously have enough against me to think I'm scum or are you just hopping on a wagon?

That

Sakura Hana · Post Post #597 (isolation #97) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:24 pm

What makes you think the first person driving the wagon on you is actually scum? specially with the way you're acting.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #600 (isolation #98) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:29 pm

It worked once, it doesnt mean it will always work, you should develop other ways of finding scum since not everyone is going to react the same way, everyone has different playstyles.

P-Edit: what 50 said.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #604 (isolation #99) » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:31 pm

So now what are you going to do?

Do you still scum read me? Or actually, what are your current reads and why?

P-Edit: Nocton is easier to type

Sakura Hana · Post Post #664 (isolation #100) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:32 am

Saki, you didnt give a full reads list and you didn't give reasons either.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #668 (isolation #101) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:56 am

Welcome goodmorning, Please catch up and give us your thoughts.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:40 am

Town cred, Town cred, tbh that makes me sick, all I care about is finding scum, with or without your help GM

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:52 am

I've never done anything for town cred, what makes you think i did?

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:02 am

No? I was asking him questions to show him why he was wrong. If people think im town from that great, if they think im scum, idc, but at least we know now that Saki's town and not scum, that's all I care about.

Why do you think town would care about town cred?

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:24 am

In post 703, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 702, Sakura Hana wrote:No? I was asking him questions to show him why he was wrong. If people think im town from that great, if they think im scum, idc, but at least we know now that Saki's town and not scum, that's all I care about.

Why do you think town would care about town cred?
So you're not lynched? I'm just saying it does make you look suspicious, that's all.

If I get lynched it will give town information, so idc about getting lynched.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:47 am

In post 711, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 706, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 703, NoctanNights wrote:
In post 702, Sakura Hana wrote:No? I was asking him questions to show him why he was wrong. If people think im town from that great, if they think im scum, idc, but at least we know now that Saki's town and not scum, that's all I care about.

Why do you think town would care about town cred?
So you're not lynched? I'm just saying it does make you look suspicious, that's all.
If I get lynched it will give town information, so idc about getting lynched.
Why do you think I wanted to be lynched even before I got drunk.

Yourself, and i told you why that was anti-town

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:48 am

Lol i read why as who.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:05 pm

Idc, if you're good or bad at making read lists, the more you do it, the better you get at it, and if your list isn't accurate to who the actual scum is that doesn't matter much either, you're still new and you're still learning, as long as you don't pull any suspicious read changes /flips without reason.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:15 pm

In post 727, notscience wrote:Coaching.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:16 pm

Sounds good to me, but you should learn to form your opinion and not just follow the stronger players.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:21 pm

because they might not be town.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:23 pm

Don't recommend it, I tried that and it didn't turn out well at all.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:24 pm

What I do recommend, is making your playstyle the same, regardless of alignment of role, so no one can use meta against you.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:34 pm

No, form a playstyle, and use that, dont use different playstyles.

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:35 pm

Oh maybe i should stop giving you advice, dont want someone to come on and say I'm coaching you!

Sakura Hana · Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:45 pm

:I

VOTE: Noctan

Sakura Hana · Post Post #763 (isolation #117) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:16 pm

Memo to self: Go to an english institute and learn perfect english before joining more mafia games...

I love how not only on this game, people tackle reasons to lynch me due to how i write stuff.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #771 (isolation #118) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:52 pm

Why even save a readlist for your #X post, jeeesh.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #778 (isolation #119) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:17 pm

So, it sucks, so what? why aren't you doing anything about it either?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #784 (isolation #120) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:41 pm

That's not too far from what i'm thinking with the difference that i think NS is town, however you forgot to include me on your list.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #795 (isolation #121) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:54 pm

In post 791, Saki wrote:you're right Sakura
marquis does show up every time you mention him

What does that tell you.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #799 (isolation #122) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:00 pm

Wrong answer!

The question wasn't even for you, it was for Saki

Sakura Hana · Post Post #802 (isolation #123) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:07 pm

Hi fluff post

Sakura Hana · Post Post #804 (isolation #124) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:14 pm

Why did you think I was talking to you?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #815 (isolation #125) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:27 pm

In post 810, Saki wrote:
In post 795, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 791, Saki wrote:you're right Sakura
marquis does show up every time you mention him
What does that tell you.
he might be pizza on tumblr

And then who derails the threads.... le sigh

VOTE: Marquis

Sakura Hana · Post Post #817 (isolation #126) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:29 pm

In post 814, Saki wrote:
In post 795, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 791, Saki wrote:you're right Sakura
marquis does show up every time you mention him
What does that tell you.
together with the fact that I think he's not reading the thread

In post 814, Saki wrote:I think he's not reading the thread

In post 814, Saki wrote:
not reading the thread

Do you realize how much sense this makes?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #819 (isolation #127) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:30 pm

Code: Select all

[img]Link[/img]

Sakura Hana · Post Post #825 (isolation #128) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:45 pm

You're liking a page not an image

Now can we get back to the game?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #827 (isolation #129) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:49 pm

This was your link: http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/296441
That's a page, right click the image and select Copy image URL, you get:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/new ... 41/24a.jpg

Sakura Hana · Post Post #830 (isolation #130) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:53 pm

So now, can we get back to the game, Marquis admitted active lurking, so can we lynch him?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #833 (isolation #131) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm

Why am I starting to think that you're the bane of this town...

For the love of...

Sakura Hana · Post Post #838 (isolation #132) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:58 pm

Sigh.... THIS GAME

Sakura Hana · Post Post #841 (isolation #133) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:59 pm

In post 839, Saki wrote:VOTE: Marquis

Didn't you just say you didn't wanna lynch him

Sakura Hana · Post Post #845 (isolation #134) » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:00 pm

oh ok

Sakura Hana · Post Post #866 (isolation #135) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:40 am

Refer to my signature

Sakura Hana · Post Post #868 (isolation #136) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:00 am

ffery: prod MeowMix please

Done! - f

Sakura Hana · Post Post #870 (isolation #137) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:30 am

In post 869, notscience wrote:VOTE: Bert

Why Bert? and Why Bert over Marquis?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #874 (isolation #138) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:16 am

Town: 50, Saki
Leaning Town: notscience
Leaning Scum: Bert
Scum: Marquis, Noctan
Everyone else is Null, so i'd think there's at least 1 scum among the inactives.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:36 am

Marquis needs more votes.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #905 (isolation #140) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:18 pm

In post 903, Marquis wrote:why am i not loved enough

Maybe we should mention you more, maybe you would appear more, the sad thing is, you still haven't posted any content, you're actively lurking, why arent you dead yet.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #906 (isolation #141) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:18 pm

I welcome EVERYONE to read Marquis' ISO.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #908 (isolation #142) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:20 pm

In post 907, Malakittens wrote:We already know.

Not enough people do.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #917 (isolation #143) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 1:40 pm

GM: I dont considering a policy lynch when a player proves that he's reading the thread and is just posting fluff.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #941 (isolation #144) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:11 pm

That depends on whether he decides to pull that self-vote stuff again or not.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #958 (isolation #145) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:41 pm

still your vote is fishy Marquis, you've done nothing then out of the blue you vote NN?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #961 (isolation #146) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:42 pm

To save yourself that is, since you're likely the only other option for lynch atm.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #963 (isolation #147) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:43 pm

you dont want to die and you dont want to post content either!

Sakura Hana · Post Post #966 (isolation #148) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:44 pm

and HB just proved that they are actively lurking too.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #969 (isolation #149) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:46 pm

Marquis if you're just gonna fluff the entire day and vote on a random wagon because it's close to lynch (heck you even thought you were hammering and you should be punished for trying a ninja hammer), that's as scummy as you can get.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #971 (isolation #150) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:47 pm

I have a feeling that Noctan and HB are on the same scum team and Marquis is on the other one.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #973 (isolation #151) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:49 pm

Noctan if you want to suicide i suggest you replace out instead, doesnt hurt whichever team you are on and gives us less headaches and saves us from your constant suicidal attitude.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #984 (isolation #152) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:58 pm

I'm liking HB+Noc for 1 team and Marquis+Bert for the other, what do you guys think?

Sakura Hana · Post Post #986 (isolation #153) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:59 pm

I just love how Bert says Marquis is too scummy to be scum, yet the scummier one Noctan he is happy lynching.

Sakura Hana · Post Post #987 (isolation #154) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:00 pm

Reaction

fishing

testing is pro-town js

Sakura Hana · Post Post #995 (isolation #155) » Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:05 pm

I was interrogating you, not tunneling you. Wanted to show you why you were wrong, seems like I wasted my time doing so, ok I won't bother trying to help you in the future.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:33 pm

Saki, stop being paranoid about everyone, if you're town you should be seeking to consolidate bonds with other Townies to be able to lynch scum correctly, not trying to kill everyone.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:47 pm

Bert is scum, You are scum, HB is scum, Marquis is scum...

Not really, those are just my assumptions, but i think reading on Marquis' ISO is worthwhile.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:49 pm

Yeah your predecessor's attitude is what has him at L-3 atm, i think Marquis' is a better option tho, and I hope you can redeem for your slot's attitude.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:53 pm

I believe so

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 3:53 pm

Your slots is already voting him now that I think about it, In either case read his ISO

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:15 pm

It goes like this, if you're scum she is, but if you're not scum it doesn't mean she isn't, when your slot was in danger of lynch she immediately removed the vote without saying anything else, which means she's reading yet not doing much.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:21 pm

In post 1020, Wisdom wrote:So associative tells without flips?

Idk, im just trying to connect dots

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:26 pm

In post 1022, Wisdom wrote:So I assume you think Bert is scum with Marquis?

Probably, right now the one scum read beating the strongest is Marquis'

Bert could just be anything since it's the first time i see him playing seriously.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:37 pm

Saki's playstyle is to FoS/Vote anyone suspecting him, I'm trying (or was trying) to teach him that's not the way to go... it failed...

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:42 pm

In post 1039, Saki wrote:Why the hell do you think my scumread of notscience comes from OMGUS?

I said multiple fucking times that my scumread of him comes from him jumping into an active interrogation saying 'hey yeah I saw that too'

So it comes from opportunism? Why do you think not many people agreed with you but with me and science?

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:43 pm

Also @notscience: I dont think Saki's scum, why are you tunneling him so hard?

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 4:55 pm

So you only post content when you're directly asked?!

Ok then

Marquis: what are your reads and why

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:01 pm

At least i hope this time your vote isnt based on being paranoid due to marathons.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:02 pm

Oh btw, you're wrong again, HOW SHOCKING!

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:09 pm

In post 1056, Wisdom wrote:
In post 1053, Sakura Hana wrote:At least i hope this time your vote isnt based on being paranoid due to marathons.

Sakura Hana wrote:Oh btw, you're wrong again, HOW SHOCKING!
^Are you saying these to someone you think is scum?
Really, Sakura?

No, i'm saying to someone i think it's town, the fact that you ISO'd people and came with those reads already gained you a slot in my town pile.

You're still wrong tho.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:16 pm

Wisdom are you always this blind?

You've already mislynched me once, do you really wanna do it again? idc

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:18 pm

In post 1067, Saki wrote:touché

@Sakura
that AtE

Idk, maybe wisdom likes to drive me mad, every single fucking time

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:23 pm

I'm counting the marathons

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:26 pm

In post 1072, Malakittens wrote:marathons dont count

I meant that as he also made me mad in Marathons, since he wanted to know where the "always" came from.

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:28 pm

So ok, Wisdom thinks i'm scum off gut, i figured he's still paranoid about Marathons.

I guess he's not scum then...

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:30 pm

I'm not bringing marathon meta tho? I've only said that he always drives me mad, he wanted to know which other games i was referring on the "always"

Sakura Hana · Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:31 pm

ohai notscience, thanks for the vote, now i'm closer to the mod confirming my townyness.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 12:37 am

I love how Saki's agreeing with his own scumread on me being scummy.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:03 am

In post 1104, Wisdom wrote:it's much better to find the town and work together.

You are voting one of them.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:10 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p5094953
Oh nvm... it's Wisdom's usual behavior. Carry on.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:17 am

Quite interesting trap there, sorry but i'm not gonna fall for your mislynch tactics.
If i don't unvote then you can argue that i'm attacking town too
If I unvote then you can argue that im doing so to appear town
Win-Win for scum!
VOTE: Wisdom
Sorry but no.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:22 am

Nope because you aren't trying to figure out my alignment, you just put a trap so I would get lynched no matter my reply.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:26 am

In post 1112, Wisdom wrote:Neh. I did want to see what you'd do, but it definitely wasn't a "trap".

Then why word it in such a way that you can blame me for either action.... i don't see town motivation behind this.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:29 am

In post 1114, Wisdom wrote:Those are your own creations - I simply told you you're also guilty of voting town.

Not if i think Marquis is scum.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:36 am

In post 1116, Wisdom wrote:No matter what you think,
he's town
.

How are you so sure?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:40 am

In post 1118, Wisdom wrote:I trust my reads.

If you trusted them, then why are you voting me and trying to get my vote off Marquis?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:45 am

See, I knew you were trying to trap me no matter what reply I did, you're painting me as scum, you're not trying to figure out my alignment, ergo, you're scum.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:48 am

But scum doesnt care who they lynch as long as it's not their own kin, who they DO know.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:56 am

Why would town set a trap to mislynch someone then?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 2:59 am

You could say that, but you cannot prove it wasn't a trap, and i cannot prove i'm town, so we're even.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:09 am

Sure it's BS, and your post is also BS, it's basically "If you're town take your vote off Marquis" which is a trap in my eyes.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:22 am

I exagerated, so what, does that make me scum?
You also hardtunneld me on Micro 198 with the reasoning "You're scum" , to the point of making me self-hammer as town out of frustration and rage, tho I've promised myself to not ever self-vote again...
And I still say your post was a trap, your case on me is relying on me trying to get town cred, so how does your post not look like a trap? you could easily just say either answer was done for town cred, so it's effectively a trap.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:23 am

In post 1135, Bert wrote:It irks me that you are so paranoid about Wisdom's "trap." I don't see what's the big deal

Because on that trap he can say i'm scum no matter what i reply, and put it on me. How is that town motivated?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:29 am

So Nacho, you don't think that wisdom was trying to trap me for a mislynch?
I like your case on HB.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:33 am

My townreads can flip when they try to lynch me with a trap that can only come from scum.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:37 am

Well ok then maybe you're right nacho...
VOTE: HB

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:40 am

What am i supposed to do when you give me a death or death question?

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:47 am

I did that because you're question sounded odd to me, it looked like you wanted to put it on me regardless of what i reply, as i said, win-win for scum.

Sakura Hana · Thu Jul 25, 2013 3:50 am

It's funny how everyone that has defended me is a scum read for GM.