Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

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What the heck was with that rushed day? I didnt even get to post

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So yeah i read through the thread, and I would say that I would have agreed with the TIP lynch (since at the time I didn't know his alignment), I'm not getting scum vibes from Saki or Nat, they are still null. I'm getting townvibes from Lady and Jabberwock

@Saki: What's your vote based on?

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you didnt post for an entire day
thats not like you

Game starts when im playing Civ V. then I go to sleep, when i wake up, day's already over.

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Except it looks like I need to read a book-worth of posts everytime I check this thread.

I don't think Oil is lying about being poisoned, specially since as he said, it can be confirmed easily on the next day phase.
Saki has done zero scumhunting, but that's normal town saki.
I've only played with scum Tierce, and she did more walls of text. Also I remember someone commenting something about puppies, guess Jabberwock is town.
So here's my vote for now:
VOTE: DTM
Hope this time whenever I check this thread again when i get back to work there arent a million unread words.

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I'm voting him because I'm getting scumvibes off him from what I've read on D2 so far.

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If it's stuff that other people have posted

It isn't, or maybe it is I forgot now, in any case, because I didn't see a single hint to scumhunting on his part.

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And I just realized that Oil Tycoons is Nacho...

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1) Isn't that what I said? that He isn't lying about being poisoned?
2) Saki's meta, he does zero scumhunting when town and lots when scum.
3) Everyone else is null atm, I feel like I replaced into a game for some reason... and yes that includes you as null.

About your hammer? Idk, mistakes like that happen, not often, but they do, so that's why it's a nulltell for me.

This was however before you made that large post analysing everything so you're leaning more town for me now, specially since this has been done twice by you already.

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1) I am not saying he lied, what makes you think i did?
2) Too many to count ._.
3) I'm slow at reading people... why would you think i'd gather more reads?

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Well I do hate meta as well, but I don't wanna end up lynching town just because I decided to ignore Saki's meta.... there's still a slight chance he's scum tho.

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Everyone just went silent!
@Nacho/Syry do you have any questions for me?

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DTM and Morph

Is that all you going to ask?

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It is awkward to come in after reading D1 without getting to post just because day ended early, and expect me to have reads right off the bat without interacting with people.

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It is awkward to come in after reading D1 without getting to post just because day ended early, and expect me to have reads right off the bat without interacting with people.

Except you're not interacting with people. You're reacting to people.

In fact your entire ISO has exactly zero posts in which you make a remote attempt to determine someone's alignment.

My entire ISO has been answering questions because that's all people been doing =/

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I still would think Saki's town, but the thing is, he could be changing his scum meta to fit with his town meta. But that wouldn't make any sense because then he would start getting lynched all the time since his town meta appears more scummy than his scum meta. This is why I think Saki's town this game.

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I agree that he needs to step up his town game, but why would I be voting someone I think it's town based on meta when I should be lynching scum? And he already has 1 finished scum game, he did lots more

fake

scumhunting and bigger posts. If you guys want to lynch him based on his lack of contribution be my guest... but still I don't wanna vote someone I think it's behaving like he did in his town games... voting him to step up his game would be worse than a policy lynch.

P-Edit: fun fact: I got only 3 finished games together with him (i was scum, he was town in 2, we were both town in 1) and i spectated through 1 of his scum games (I townread him that whole game until it finished, thinking he was just playing better). Even after that one of his scum game, his town behaviour doesn't seem any different, but yeah, that's only because of me having played with him.

You guys are free to believe me or not, and i'd actually be glad if he started stepping up his town game, it's frustrating to see someone get free pass like this.

P-Edit x2: OH WAIT! I think i get what you mean now.

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I was focusing at Saki's gameplay so much that I didnt realize you were referring to that one action, even tho you mentioned it multiple times... sorry about that.

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Jabberwock's town, you're town, Lady's town, Sak's null leaning scum, DTM's null leaning scum, everyone else's null.

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EBWODP:*saki's

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DTM because of 429
Lady because of her overall content in her posts.

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Hmm. Could DTM be a scum roleblocker?

If that's true then the whole more reason you're scumbuddy with him due to him wanting to clear you as town.
^
Also replies DTM's question.

As for Lady, not any specific content, more like because of her ammount of content, i'd think scum would be more lazy, like the person above me

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I'm not lazy
I just don't feel like doing anything other than trolling until day 3

VOTE: Saki

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If that's true then the whole more reason you're scumbuddy with him due to him wanting to clear you as town.
^
Also replies DTM's question.

How does this jive with DTM claiming to get Saki lynched?

He didnt claim to get him lynched? he said "Oh hey i RB'd Saki but someone still got shot, so Saki's town".

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Oh nvm, I missed his other post >_>
That still doesn't confirm you as town tho.

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Yes it does, no he's null leaning town.

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EBWODP: now*

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Game starts when im playing Civ V. then I go to sleep, when i wake up, day's already over.

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Saki, what are your reads? considering you've been here since D1?

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so you say andrius and I are town (heck you everyone as town except daemon who's null), and we're scum team? that makes perfect sense /sarcasm.

I'm happy with my vote on you

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So saki, who's scum, us 3? from which you just said you reach me and andrius as town?

Also i think your reasoning for those town reads are silly.

You obviously put everyone as town so when you get lynched we have no reads to analyze and find your partners.

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heck you everyone as town except daemon who's null

^
I did btw

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No i was more concerned at you contradicting yourself.

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why are you asking for reads while not giving any of your own?

For the third time.

My town reads are Lady Lambadelta, Jaberwock, Oil Tycoons. Null-town DTM, Null-Scum Saki.

I feel like i'm just talking to a wall here.

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P-Edit x2: OH WAIT! I think i get what you mean now.

This is when I realized what you were talking about. See the post right after too

I was focusing at Saki's gameplay so much that I didnt realize you were referring to that one action, even tho you mentioned it multiple times... sorry about that.

Then i got a null-scum read on Saki.

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also stahp with the FE13 pictures there ARE other games in the series that are amazing too!

QFT.

Also, You said you wanted an updated list of reads from me, but havent I posted that 3 times today?
well that latest is not entirely up to date but there are minor differences such as you starting to lean a bit town and Saki being down into scum territory rather than just leaning.

I don't get DDD's accusation either.

Are there any reads you haven't mentioned yet?

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Are there any reads you haven't mentioned yet?

Expanding on this, for example, why are you scumreading natirasha's slot?

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I specified that already, i was referring to the post Jabberwock mentioned that was scummy, I agreed with that, the issue was that I was focusing on Saki's gameplay overall.

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Action, Post, whichever: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5201012

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Action, Post, whichever: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5201012

interestingly you point out the exact same post that jabberwock did

and i think that's the most townish thing ive done so far

So ok, why should i bother answering questions when I had already explicitly said that it was the post jabberwock did even before I was asked.

I'm going to take a page from notscience's book here and say i'm now only reading every third word you say.

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EBWODP: Jabberwock mentioned*

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I thought pointing to the post was enough? He was asking someone to trust me, while I'm his scumread, who in the heck asks someone to trust his scumread?, was that what you asked?

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"69%"

Lol...

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Fluff is my thing not yours

seriously saki, things like this are getting annoying, you're starting to sound like i can't have fun and must play serious 100% of the time.

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@DDD: If you think Saki's an easy lynch then what do you think about Jabberwock who convinced me about the possibility of Saki being scum?

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So Saki's leaning town, I dont think he would have tried to save me with a perfect oportunity to pin that overreaction to me and get me lynched.
UNVOTE: Saki
Dang I'm out of scumreads now =/
@Nacho/Syry: What do you think of Morph?

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Willing to full-claim and self-hammer since battery power.

Not liking mtc anymore

Nah im probably the one that should die today, I can't find scummy behavior on any player and that means that either 1. I sux at reading people or 2. I'm scum. Regardless of which one it is I wouldn't be any help at all for the rest of the game.

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Wait what, Andrius can neighborize smeone for 1 night?

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and we got a town neighborizer?.... what in the fricken hell?!

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It's weird for me because I can also do that. Except my ability fails if i target a male character, this is getting too weird, is it normal of Vi to give the exact same ability to 2 people?

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I already targeted Lady with it because i thought she'd have a female character, lol

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Well i guess that makes things easier, i'll target you instead then.

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Inb4 all this neighborizing is based of FE13

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Also now that i outed my ability should i claim my character or should I keep that hidden (not very used to Upicks), tho i think the fact that i can only target females is quite a give away.

On another note, why Saki?

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Tho I dont have many leads I do have to question you Jabberwock, I thought Saki could be scum, but this post:

That's a pretty strong overreaction. Is there a reason you're ignoring me this game, or...?

I yelled at her in another game for it. If that's context enough.

He could've used the overreaction to pin it on me, yet he decided to explain my post instead of letting me defend against it, what's the possible scum motivation behind that?

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Ah i see what you mean now Tiempire, sounds good.
VOTE: Saki

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Saki, do you think Oil Tycoons is faking the fact they got shot and is going to die today?

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Because i doubt scum would do that, unless they are scumteam with Saki, otherwise Saki was pretty much certain lynch coz of roleblocked last night + no kill.

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So you're trap was sprung on logic? makes sense...

P-Edit: That doesnt make any sense either? as I said, unless they are a scumteam I don't see why scum would sacrifice himself for town, but if they are town then that makes sense and Saki is not clear.

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I'm starting to smell a chainsaw here... and by that i mean my town read on LLD is dropping...

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I consider everything Saki, SPECIALLY something my top scumread says. I can't read most people in this game, but what you threw there was just pretty bad logic, and was even worse to label it as a "trap" that I sprung.

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My "nothing" is made up of your 855 and 859, summed up with you defending Saki towards Tierce in such an aggresive manner.
And then you just backed it up with your 865.

So, no, it's not nothing.

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Chainsaw Defense: Scum defending their scumbuddy by attacking their attackers.

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So you disagree that you're attacking Tierce/Andrius/Purpkin/Me?

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850 Conveniently puts as possible scum everyone attacking Saki.

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God you're so bad

bad =/= scum tho :3

And you just attacked me too, when i said i was starting to smell a chainsaw.

P-Edit: From my PoV, yes.

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Everyone I put pressure on I am now attacking.

My P-Edit was in response to this.

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If you're so certain I'm scum, what is my scum motivation for attacking your defense of Saki instead of just continuing attacking Saki?

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I'm going to go pass out.

Same here i got a long day at work tomorrow, good night

(that also means dont expect any new posts from me for at least 12 hours unless i squeeze some time up)

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I'm Florina

With my ability Horsebird, I can neighborize someone for one night.
And my ability Androphobia makes my ability fail if i target a male character.

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You'll see that I haven't lied at all
VOTE: Sakura Hana
Please look into LDD and DDD tomorrow, I'm leaning more town towards Saki now.

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Day 2 is one of the reasons I should fix those high wire emotions of mine

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Also i panicked with the quick wagon on me because of that "Blood pact" thing, which caused me to self-hammer just to prove I was town with the flip.

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Between Mara and Nacho scumreading me I figured I was a lost case there.

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This game was horrible for me, I felt like if I replaced in due to never even getting D1, so i couldn't even try to use my ability to horsebird someone to prove I could do it. That added to the fact that I couldn't find any scum at all due to everyone playing very well and the only 2 people i trusted to read me correctly scum reading me... I almost felt like flipping a table when i self-hammered.

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This game was horrible for me, I felt like if I replaced in due to never even getting D1, so i couldn't even try to use my ability to horsebird someone to prove I could do it. That added to the fact that I couldn't find any scum at all due to everyone playing very well and the only 2 people i trusted to read me correctly scum reading me... I almost felt like flipping a table when i self-hammered.

If it helps, I read you properly!~

But you already knew I was town from the beginning due to you being scum

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Also
@Vi: Sorry, I didn't realize I had put that in my wiki without even being revealed, guess it's because i'm used to flipping completely, I promise that won't happen again.