Mini 1478 ~ Mafia Xenologue (Game Over!)

[Saki]

How did I miss the first 40 or so posts
I should feel ashamed
VOTE: Lady Lambdadelta

[Saki]

VOTE: TheIrishPope
Serious vote

Where's the TIP I know and love?
What have you done with him?

[Saki]

Now, you see, I have found that people are scum when they:
Refuse to answer harmless RQS questions from the beginning, or
Quit when the questions start getting serious.
This quite gives me a slight Town read on Purpkin at best, although, I do need to see Mara posting.
Meta doesn't work. I'm changing my play.

Do not make sweeping generalisations of my play.

you change your playstyle so much
you don't even drop a "hi saki <3"?

I find that very hard to believe

[Saki]

yes, really, I'll lynch someone 'cause they didn't say hi to me.

[Saki]

@Saki, I'd get nagged by Tierce. I can't risk that.

why would tierce nag you for saying hi to me.

[Saki]

Oh, 27.
I'm going to hate this game T^T

[Saki]

Oh, 27.
I'm going to hate this game T^T

Why does this make a difference, from your PoV?

i'm a hyper-active fluffposter. I post like 500x one-liners each game, not being able to do that will kill me

and people going for less posts = textwalls

and i hate textwalls. never read 'em

[Saki]

What. Lol
welp

bye TIP

[Saki]

Did we really lynch TIP even before I stopped being stupid

[Saki]

I hate walls

TIP it's still not too late to say hi.

[Saki]

tip are there any scumreads of yours that aren't mostly omgus

[Saki]

Jacob, I want to know what character you chose

[Saki]

poking fun at TIP
you should call him Jacob, too

[Saki]

Stop focusing on the baddies and focus on meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

no, the spotlight is mine and mine only

[Saki]

yes, walls are terrible

[Saki]

fuck walls
you go faceplant one

[Saki]

fuck walls
you go faceplant one

HAY
HAY YOU
YOU ANTI WALLER DON'T LIKE WALLS BITCH
GIVE READS
AND CONTENT
AND PUPPIES
AND WE MIGHT NOT LYNCH YOU TOMORROW

you lil shit
I'm a cat person

[Saki]

Well I guess I'm just not fucking good enough for anybody

tru dat.

[Saki]

Saki, at least give us something

mah vote on TIP.

[Saki]

Sakura needs rope

[Saki]

Sakura didn't even fucking post, what makes you think she's scum?

because she didn't post.
she need rope.

[Saki]

awesome place to start eh.
VOTE: Saki

[Saki]

[quote="In post 336, Sakura Hana"][/quote]
oh yeah.
VOTE: Sakura Hana

[Saki]

fail tags. qq

[Saki]

I.e. I did shenanigans last night and Saki is top suspect unless otherwise stated.

Huh?
Why feel the need to keep it secret?

[Saki]

you didnt post for an entire day
thats not like you

[Saki]

yes I'm dumb
HEEEHEEEE.

[Saki]

@Saki
No hidden agendas. Thought I was clear. I have a role interaction that implicates you because there was no NK. That should be easy. There are other explanations that can explain these conditions which would suggest other things - but I doubt they would claim.

Thought this was elementary school bus level logic. My disapproved Edgeworth face should be here.

No roleclaim. Faking a guilty. Why?
Because scum that's why.

And also there

was

a nightkill, just delayed. What impact does that have on your investigation? Is it still pointing guilty at me?

[Saki]

No hidden agendas.

You hid your entire damn role from me and fake a guilty and you say there's no hidden agenda?

[Saki]

I don't see town motivation behind a partial claim.
Even if he is wrong about the guilty I still think he's scum.

[Saki]

Even if he is wrong about the guilty I still think he's scum.

...?

Why the hell would town claim

partially

?

[Saki]

because the guilty's not 100% reliable and he wanted a reaction?
keep your mind on sakura scum, don't get distracted by your OMGUS tendencies.

I tend to OMGUS but a

partial

claim?

A partial claim is just town wanting a reaction? Are you nuts?

All I see is scum expecting to get the town's second strongest scumread player lynched with a bullshit gambit.
If he was town he wouldn't have problems with a full claim and going after the lynch on me. Note that he only keeps his vote on me but makes cases against everyone else.

And if the guilty was not 100% reliable then why mention it or claim at all?
"Hey guys I sort of have a guilty on X player"
That just turns the day into a shitstorm of WIFOM and that's not what town should do at all.

[Saki]

Oh and
VOTE: DTMaster
Explain or my vote is staying for the rest of today.

[Saki]

all this hydra talk and puppy pictures are throwing me off
at least one of them will be gone...

[Saki]

I don't see town motivation behind a partial claim.
Even if he is wrong about the guilty I still think he's scum.

This bothers me a lot. It's the phrasing. "Even if he's wrong"--wouldn't Saki-Town KNOW that DTMaster is wrong?

I know he's wrong. The context was "even if you all think he's town with a false guilty" I still think he's scum.

[Saki]

Saki has done zero scumhunting, but that's normal town saki.

you say this but you vote DTM alongside me
why

[Saki]

Vote: Sakura Hana

ok cool.

you can vote?

[Saki]

i'm going to die at the end of the day. i'm not dead yet.

yer not a conftown treestump?
yer just a normal player that dies at the end of today?

[Saki]

tbh i skimmed the walls/talk about meta/talk about other stuff that I don't relate to


sakura needs rope but i want DTM's explanation behind his motives for the partial claim/clarification on what effect the delayed kill has on his read before i move my vote back

[Saki]

what experience exactly, nat?

[Saki]

VOTE: Sakura Hana

[Saki]

Interesting. Another person in the thread is using the exact same reason ("general meta") to read me as town.

Might be scum reading easy lynches as town and hoping something sticks.

[Saki]

@ph
would you trust sakura's metaread on me then? she has at least five games with me

[Saki]

ph mentioned that nat meta on me was bs
i asked him what sakura's metaread on me was

it doesnt matter whether sakura is scum or town she can read me

[Saki]

three including this one
the other two are ongoing
one which you are modding

[Saki]

its just such a bad thing to do...

[Saki]

sigh
my lips are sealed

[Saki]

@mod: pretty please with a cherry on top delete 477, 479, and 481 I was being really stupid

[Saki]

i just feel like I did something horrible

[Saki]

Hmmmmmmmm
Hmmmmmmmm
Hmmmmmmmm
maybe i should start playing better in this game....or nah

[Saki]

Hmm. Could DTM be a scum roleblocker?

[Saki]

I'm not lazy
I just don't feel like doing anything other than trolling until day 3

[Saki]

hmmm
nice OMGUS

[Saki]

If that's true then the whole more reason you're scumbuddy with him due to him wanting to clear you as town.
^
Also replies DTM's question.

How does this jive with DTM claiming to get Saki lynched?

He didnt claim to get him lynched? he said "Oh hey i RB'd Saki but someone still got shot, so Saki's town".

No, he wanted to get me lynched before Nacho/Sry showed up to prove him wrong.

[Saki]

i never said i was conftown
noone said i was conftown
where are you getting that idea from Sakura

[Saki]

Hmm. Could DTM be a scum roleblocker?

This is BS testing the waters after not deigning to acknowledge your post and my post on how DTMaster is Town, Syr. Also, 544 is laughable, given that any Town player who wanted to essentially CC DTMaster on the cause of the missing death would be speaking up, and makes no sense for DTMaster-scum to sacrifice himself to get Saki lynched. He's ignoring all these points because it's convenient; he's not interested in figuring out DTMaster's motivations beyond "omg he's scum going after meeeeee", which is pathetic.

>_>
I still am focused on guarding my bridge
maybe come later....

[Saki]

so you think sakura not posting for the entirety of D1 was just a mistake, magic critter?

[Saki]

wondercritter*

[Saki]

>_>

really?

well ok
UNVOTE:

[Saki]

WELCOME DDD BUT I FEEL SO HORRIBLE BECAUSE I GOT NAT KICKED OUT

hi nacho

[Saki]

Anyone who can look me straight in the eye, and tell me I'm town because I post a lot...

Sakura does that to me every game
Lol

[Saki]

Anyone who can look me straight in the eye, and tell me I'm town because I post a lot...

Sakura does that to me every game
Lol

Yes, but you aren't me.

Also,

Vote: Saki

killing me off before i can take your place for top post count
cruel
plain cruel

[Saki]

Saki, what are your reads? considering you've been here since D1?

i just saw someone post their reads and get shit slung at them
but okay

lemme actually think for a second or two

[Saki]

1) Andrius
town, he lynched tip

2) Daemon385
null, been a while since he posted

3) DTMaster
town until proven scum

4) Jabberwock (Empire + Tierce)
'im obvtown, i'm obvtown!' slightly town.

slightly

5) Lady Lambdadelta
she called tip stupid. town

6) morph the cat (Cabd + fferyllt)
town. but ive heard town ffery shoots town lazers from her eyes
i'd like to see that

7) Debonair Danny DiPietro replacing Natirasha D2
town 'cause nat
I don't think nat would've resorted to reading me like that if he was scum

8) Oil Tycoons (Nachomamma8 + Syryana)
scum? town? we'll see after the flip

9) ProHawk
town
he called tip silky

10) Purpkin (borkjerfkin + Ms Marangal)
mara's going to kill me next
help meee
but otherwise town

12) Sakura Hana
town i guess?
still suspicious

since there's probably three scum
i'd guess Sakura-Daemon-andrius scumteam

[Saki]

so you say andrius and I are town (heck you everyone as town except daemon who's null), and we're scum team? that makes perfect sense /sarcasm.

I'm happy with my vote on you

note that i call everyone town

[Saki]

why not say 'omg saki your readslist is bs, you call everyone town and shout out three random players for scumteam'
but say 'you said we were town but you also said we were scum'?

VOTE: Sakura Hana
i want andrius's feedback on this

[Saki]

heck, the whole readslist is bullshit
i call it myself

why not say 'omg saki your readslist is bs, you call everyone town and shout out three random players for scumteam'

this is the town reaction

'you said we were town but you also said we were scum'?

this is your (scum) reaction

you weren't as concerned about me townreading everyone/trolling you with a bullshit readslist
you were more concerned of how i'd read you (and possibly andrius)


and the 'scumteam' was semi-random
y'all should look into Sakura and Andrius

[Saki]

and the 'scumteam' was semi-random
y'all should look into Sakura and Andrius

okay, not semi-random anymore since sakura's reaction

also something that i wanted you to pick up on was the fact that i said there's three scum.
hmm, Sakura....hmm....

[Saki]

No i was more concerned at you contradicting yourself.

who'd buy that excuse.

[Saki]

Saki, instead of arguing with a scum-read, how about you try and convince others why you think Sakura is scum instead?

i figured if i put my case in a post people would take it at face value

[Saki]

my games are on the wiki ~

[Saki]

6) morph the cat (Cabd + fferyllt)
town. but ive heard town ffery shoots town lazers from her eyes
i'd like to see that

Do you know what the town lasers are in reference to?

lol
nope
hehe.

[Saki]

Lol

[Saki]

Does anyone want to see the Saki case because I'll fucking write a nice concise (read: less than a paragraph) on it.

Go, so I can shoot it down.

on what
you calling people town
and then calling them scum
?

yeah that's bad dude sorry
try again
make a new wall with the people you think are scum labeled SCUM and not TOWN
clarity is town

I'm not allowed to have my reads change, Andrius?
And no that readslist contains no scum because it's not really a readslist? see 573
You took it seriously

REVISED List of reads from Saki

Never. I had no intent of making one in the first place.

[Saki]

Hey guys there's a dude who posted a readslist where everyone is town. He must be serious.

Yeah, haha,

NO

.

>_>

Besides, Daemon, my play isn't as so much 'scummy' or 'anti-town' as much as 'holy fuck I totally want Saki to be scum.'

[Saki]

Mmm yeah.
I was js that people usually want me lynched for --reasons-- that aren't really scummy.

and about whether or not my play improves as the day goes on: it usually does but it more or less depends on my mood

[Saki]

also, calling people scum is a great way to get them to post lol

[Saki]

Action, Post, whichever: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5201012

interestingly you point out the exact same post that jabberwock did

and i think that's the most townish thing ive done so far

[Saki]

Umm new Debanour guy? Seems a bit eeeeh to me I'll get more detail on why in a minute.

When you get a chance, can you do this please?

Yep working on that now Jabber. While I do so Saki how is that the most town thing you have done?

ill ask you
how is it the most town thing ive done?

[Saki]

scum can WK townies
and i was seeing if you would
since i know you know im town

[Saki]

Fluff is my thing not yours

[Saki]

Hi guys, are we any closer to lynching Sakura yet.

[Saki]

silky deserved to die
he didn't even say hi

hey, that rhymes

[Saki]

wondercritter, you forgot to meta me

[Saki]

Reverse Annie is Annie in a Tibbers costume and Tibbers in an Annie costume
it's not as awesome as actually getting to BE tibbers

[Saki]

Reverse Annie is Annie in a Tibbers costume and Tibbers in an Annie costume
it's not as awesome as actually getting to BE tibbers

This is content. Yes, without a doubt, you are useful.

Why, thank you!

[Saki]

That's a pretty strong overreaction. Is there a reason you're ignoring me this game, or...?

I yelled at her in another game for it. If that's context enough.

[Saki]

Willing to full-claim and self-hammer since battery power.

Not liking mtc anymore

[Saki]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Saki

I'm Anna. Both my abilities say something along the lines of "this might do something or it might not."

Let's end the day.


I'm not following too closely but whoever is rolefishing is doing it well.
And Mafia Neighborizer seems highly likely.

[Saki]

*shrug*
In 512, the town game that you linked, I was a town PR.
And still, all that meta-knowledge is based off two games from what I saw.
Big difference from what Andrius gets to what I get, no?

Also, just because I'm playing VI doesn't mean I'm not town.
Like, if you've read my other town games...

[Saki]

Grrr
I'll summarize my thought process.

The effects of my abilities might be revealed to me later on in the game.
There are several strong town players in the game.
I need to survive longer to gain abilities.
Therefore playing VI and hiding behind said players looked like a good idea, it stops nightkills on me, too. Apparently you guys want to lynch me.

I guess that play was extremely selfish and anti-town, y'all have my blessing to string me up.

[Saki]

Oh and when I'm lynched and y'all let wondercritter walk away with that I'll be severely disappointed in several people.

[Saki]

Please don't link day 1 of 512 or 1404 >_>
I probably did more by claiming here than I did in either of those two games.

[Saki]

UNVOTE:
Since I won't be here.

If battery power is nearing 20% and I'm still the leading lynch I'll put my vote back.

[Saki]

and I'm willing to bet one of Morph, Purpkin and Jabberwock is scum. Just GUT >=D!

I'd say it's mtc but meh

[Saki]

PoE at this point is an assumption based off more assumptions so it's likely wrong.

[Saki]

Anyways I'd like to express my suspicions of a facerolling Oil Tycoons/wondercritter scumteam and I'll actually go now.

[Saki]

No.
VOTE: Sakura Hana
That's two traps you've sprung today.

[Saki]

I'm scum, LLD is scum for arguing that I'm town, but you're willing to consider something stupid that I threw out on impulse?

You would actually

consider

some random bullshit your top scimread threw out there?

This isn't town Sakura.

[Saki]

stop making me phonepost it's extremely annoying

[Saki]

UNVOTE:
Fakeclaims are not something I associate with Sakura.

[Saki]

Hello Mr. Everywhere But Here.

VOTE: Saki

How you doin'?

Uh, fine.
Forgot this game existed.

[Saki]

My god,

how dare Sakura Hana not post for a few hours?! Bugger off. Trying to pass her absence off as lurking when D1 was

nine hours long

is abject BS.

[Saki]

Inactivity

must

be a scumtell.

[Saki]

There was post-mislynch hysterics/rage/some random emotion going on in the thread. I figured I wouldn't bother to post.

[Saki]

Yeah. Drama. >_>

[Saki]

UFFERING! ANGUISH! RISE AND FEED!

dat wotlk reference

[Saki]

I'm afraid to say anything right now because Tierce

[Saki]

You killed off the only two players I knew in the game
I feel lonely and scared

[Saki]

Yay AtE

VOTE: Jabberwock

[Saki]

You killed off the only two players I knew in the game
I feel lonely and scared

You aren't going to say anything about this now that I have my vote on you, emp?

[Saki]

I've left syr's string of explitives out for good measure, for the record. Also saki, you jerk, you know ffery and I perfectly well too.

Fine. I guess I do.
Won't move my vote on scumcritter.

[Saki]

"Saki is scum."
> asks why
"Self-explanatory you *$@#$ + more AtE"

Doesn't actually think I'm scum but votes me anyways.

Why?
'cause they're scum.
How do we know this?

I asked something similar to "did you kill off the two people I knew"
No answer, just "LOOK AT SAKI" AtE

either
a) Those two are lazy players.
b) Those two are convinced I'm scum.

One of these are wrong.

Because on closer inspection you would notice that I pretty much pushed both wagons.
I contradicted myself.
Why would Jabberwock fail to see this?

Because either a) or b) is wrong.

And b) is wrong.
But they're pushing for a lynch on me?

Yeah.
Okay.
Scum.

[Saki]

Call it gut but I see their posts as pressure, but not scumhunting.

And yeah, lynch the townie who's a) claimed, b) promised their play gets better as the day goes on, and c) has proved himself multiple times over that he's an easy mislynch.

[Saki]

they really are town

Only to you, mtc, and nachomollie (and insert whoever else they're buddying)

[Saki]

nachomollie

What?

Grr nachosyry*

[Saki]

I asked something similar to "did you kill off the two people I knew"
No answer, just "LOOK AT SAKI" AtE

This wasn't even phrased as a question...what were you expecting them to say?

Because on closer inspection you would notice that I pretty much pushed both wagons.
I contradicted myself.
Why would Jabberwock fail to see this?

Again, what were you expecting them to say? You didn't indicate you were expecting a response at all. This is why most reaction tests are dumb - you don't have the pass/fail conditions set realistically.

I wanted to call you scum for this when I first read your explanation of critter scum but now I think you really just didn't think this through well.

----

otherwise I'm nowheresville with reads and I'm forced to reread at this point because I'm second guessing everything and can't responsibly do anything except sheep OT right now.

Expected them to proceed with making a case against me off it, since they were so convinced I'm scum?

Mhmm.

That reaction test was straightforward. I drop a scumtell. They pick up on it and lynch me, that's them lynching (null, either town or scum).
They don't pick up on it and ignore it, they don't want to lynch me, and that contradicts their previous behavior of wanting to lynch me, therefore they're scum.

Why push a lynch on someone you say is scum but don't think is scum?
= Why push a mislynch?
= because scum.

[Saki]

UNVOTE:

fuck just let me lurk and lynch me as you see fit

[Saki]

hi

[Saki]

Mini 1469? Which one was that

[Saki]

Mini 1469? Which one was that

Oh, that one.
I don't recall replacing into scum-sided LyLo this game, though.

[Saki]

So Saki has an ability that he doesn't know the details of, but when someone accuses him of anything his reaction is "you're lying I didn't do anything of the sort you are scum you have nothing on me and whyyyy aren't you fullclaiming shit shit shit are you a cop with a guilty on me what can I claim in this situation ah fuuuuuck".

DTMaster had no way of knowing that he had not blocked the Night kill.

Lol
Refuting your own cases in the exact same paragraph seems to be a popular thing

[Saki]

You local friendly dead guy made of cheese urges me to remind you that sakura hana's selfhammer is enough defeatest behavior to fill this game's quota.

Also he's wondering what the hell you're doing so much focus on sorting us out.

Sorrrrrry

[Saki]

Hey guys
this thread exists

[Saki]

Ehh people should be getting online now.

I hope.

[Saki]

So you gonna vote for me Saki?

I already said I wanted wondercritter stew

[Saki]

nacho never reads me right

is some sort of necromancer possible?

one that changes win-con, too

[Saki]

VOTE: Andrius

why
why
why

why
why
why

why
why
why

[Saki]

why
why
why

urgh

why
why
why

[Saki]

will you share

[Saki]

huh

no

[Saki]

ah.

mk

>_>

[Saki]

Not feeling ProHawk scum.

p much I think {Jabberwock/Andrius/(~~~~~~~)}

So
guys let's lynch either critter or andy

[Saki]

Not to mention...

[Saki]

Didn't say anything yet.

[Saki]

Hi guys
wtf happened

[Saki]

......Poor CES

[Saki]

Poor dude

[Saki]

VOTE: Jabberwock

[Saki]

UNVOTE:
mm even if it's scum?

[Saki]

VOTE: Jabberwock

Now hold on, why is Morph still alive?

Or 'obvtown' Jabberwock

[Saki]

tbh I doubt a three-person quickhammer is going to work with me in the thread

[Saki]

tbh I doubt a three-person quickhammer is going to work with me in the thread

Crazier things have happened.

I need some time to think about this, and why the fuck CES was killed.

DT claimed roleblocker

[Saki]

...which leads me to the paranoia that scum has superduper abilities that can gg us regardless of whether or not we lynch correctly

[Saki]

...which leads me to the paranoia that scum has superduper abilities that can gg us regardless of whether or not we lynch correctly

Well he can block nightkills, right?

Question is why kill the "block nightkills dude" over "bring town back alive and give town extra vote" dude

[Saki]

ugh
wow
why did i not see this before

i was looking through mtc's iso for trademark 'mislynch based off meta' scum-action
it's not there but neither are opinions from cabd/ffery
it's just syry/nacho posting

[Saki]

Which makes me doubt things b/c I doubt Syry posts that frequently and I doubt that nacho has a solid read on me

[Saki]

<insert paranoia of scumcabd gambit>

{Jabberwock, MTC, Andrius} anyone

but I don't have reasons to be sure that whoever's not them is town (aside from me)

FUCK
YOU GUYS
DO SOMETHING
TOWNSLIP
PLZ

[Saki]

We don't have a double vote any more. The double vote and the communicating with OT was their role ability, not ours. Both ended at nightfall.

We think it's mass claim time.

Well, shit, I misunderstood something

[Saki]

Given flavor it's likely Tharja is an SK

[Saki]

Given flavor it's likely Tharja is an SK

buuuut I don't find that making sense

[Saki]

Never mind, fuck it, I'm stupid
I don't doubt her being a JOAT tho

[Saki]

im p sure
tharja isn't town
but ehh

[Saki]

who the fuck claims tharja if they want to be read as conftown

[Saki]

nvm this is a upick
what the hell am i saying

[Saki]

mb mb fuck what I said

Yes Jabberwock needs to claim

[Saki]

I already fullclaimed
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jabberwock

Sorry LLD but this needs rope NOW

[Saki]

We're Tharja, a JOATish role. We like Oil Tycoons a looooooooooot:

All of these are one-shot:

1) Roleblock (we also hit saki N1 just as DTM claimed he did)
2) Neighborize two players who are not us (we attempted to neighborize Jabberwock and DDD the night DDD died, hence mara's question)
3) Machoize [seriously, we can make someone immune to protection]. We did not use this - I don't see an obvious pro-town application of this
4) Vig, but only if that player were to target Oil Tycoons, and the ship sailed on that pretty early. We didn't use this either.

We're neighbors with MTC and we have been all game, but that was driven by their role, not ours.

Uh..... You told us in the neighborhood you had multiple RB shots? You even told us you were debating on who to role block last night.

/confirm suspicions of Purpkin SK

[Saki]

....which means it's probably 3:3:1 and we're all horribly fucked

[Saki]

I already fullclaimed
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jabberwock

Sorry LLD but this needs rope NOW

That's cute, but no you didn't.

ISO me.
ctrl+f "Anna"

[Saki]

That does not go about what you

did

with your abilities, and voting us as you did is pure scum bullshit.

"I don't know what either of my abilities do"
The fuck do you don't get about that?

My claim was essentially a VT claim

What are you looking for, a fakeclaim that involves a guilty on me?

[Saki]

Votes on you are pure scum bullshit?
What the fuck

See this?
Lynch this.

[Saki]

I fullclaimed.

I do not know whether my abilities actually have any in-game impact and neither of them are active abilities. I know this much.
That's essentially a VT.

Now die.
Claiming *might* help you but you'll still die.

[Saki]

If anything, my abilities are for decoration. If that does not answer your curiosity as to my claim then I do not know what will aside from a post-game modpost.

[Saki]

lynching and investigating you.

in what could potentially be LyLo or worse?

[Saki]

At this point I'm just inclined to believe Jabberwock is pushing my lynch just to save face

[Saki]

hyperdefensive much

[Saki]

hyperdefensive much

meant tierce
not you bjerf

[Saki]

There's really no Town reason for us to answer that first question, massclaim or not.

......and you doubt my claim

[Saki]

No, but I see the attitude behind claims as rather contradictory.

re: Saki "OMFG YOU AREN'T FULLCLAIMING OR PROVIDING DECENT ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS REGARDING YOUR CLAIM. I DON'T BELIEVE YOUR CLAIM AT ALL."

re: yourself "I'm not answering stupid questions regarding my claim."

Uh, looking at it from a general perspective, it's not much different.

Tell me what is so "anti-town" about claiming Coroner shots.

[Saki]

Ah, fuck.
So sorry orz