Mini 1481: ETL's Horrific Camping Trip (GAME OVER)


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Post Post #5 (isolation #0) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 1:28 pm

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Post Post #14 (isolation #1) » Mon Jul 29, 2013 5:22 pm

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Theoretically, Varsoon can go he after his 1 week ban is over?
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Post Post #28 (isolation #2) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 1:33 am

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VOTE: Sakura

For refusing my offer to play as CherryDrPepper here :P
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Post Post #248 (isolation #3) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:42 am

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I wake up and fine 9 new pages...

Catch up time.
Sakura and Saki, I really have no idea how to tell your town and scum games apart. Which is good I guess for them. Playing with you two crazy kids is fun :)
I take it Fsnake's comment on Jesters indicate that he was suspicious of Saki?

Saki, Bert has a point. WHY are you too worried about what RM would think about your spam posting? Afraid that ifnyou were scum she'd catch you or suspect you?
Also we are in page 5 and youre still RVS-ing?
is scummy. "If you thought I was scum, why would it matter who replied" pretty much feels like a chainsaw. Or that you two should automatically answer for each other.

seriously feels like soft coaching. I saw in the OP that they know eachother but this is really pinging my scumdar.
Also why do you want things to slow down? If you meant the fluff, then yes. But the actual content is still there, we shouldnt slow that down.

GiF's right, Sakura. Unexplained votes arent automatically opportunistic. Your calling out non scum tells. But this is something you do as town.

Bert, I think you would fit in EM. But dont go there lol
the logic makes no sense and its awfully hypocritical from someone who self votes often as a gambit.


How is the above post NOT jumping on you for extending RVS?
made me lol

GiF trying to use the Spanish title for "Notepad" as a way to discredit Sakura? Scummy.


You're partly right, but this is a function of you three dominating the thread

Anyway
VOTE: Timeeater

Btw sonatine, the pace can be epicmafia like, but the content isnt, sad you didnt stay :/
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Post Post #250 (isolation #4) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:48 am

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Because of that post I said was scummy about him.
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Post Post #252 (isolation #5) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 11:50 am

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The sift coaching post.

Anyway, you explaining it, really doesnt explain why you'd use it against her to begin with

I took your page top, sorry ETL <3
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Post Post #264 (isolation #6) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:19 pm

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Interesting, Timeeater completely ignores why I think he is scummy for that, and dismisses it as a random vote.
GiF how does it not? It literally says "why does your first post have to be a bad one"
Though this is hinging on whether sonatine's slot is scum. I think its scummy coaching.

Btw toxic, we are so not heading for a no lynch today. We have a 2 week deadline. Your insistent tone bothers me.
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Post Post #269 (isolation #7) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:24 pm

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Look at my post that is apparently "full of 'me toos'" and see the post I linked which related to you.

GiF its usually null but the fact that they know each other is the part that bugged me about the post.
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Post Post #273 (isolation #8) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 12:38 pm

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Okay that makes sense. Which is why I agreed with you on the stop posting fluff thing.

Well it just bothered me as something experienced scum would say to newb scum partners. Thats why I thought it was fishy
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Post Post #322 (isolation #9) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:24 pm

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Bert, that toxic banana post was newbie play, not scum play. I was cautious as fuck when I was a newbie in my first game.

Aside from that, TNE, your jumping on not scum tells dude. This is how Saki plays. Are they anti town? Kinda, yeah we can agree to that. But calling him scum for saying "I cant sto being scummy" is bordering on misrep territory.

Your meta town read on FSnake is strange because it only came out after you were called out for not having town reads. Which is a valid accusation.

Saki, do you think Sakura and tne are scum buddies?

For that matter, the says triple cross bussing is impossible and later says Bert and Saki are scum together. Theres nonflip to base these two associative tells of each other.

GiF, who is scum then?
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Post Post #330 (isolation #10) » Tue Jul 30, 2013 5:52 pm

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Bert: I dislike games full of walls

You f*ckin hypocrite :P :))
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Post Post #436 (isolation #11) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:12 am

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In post 361, Sakura Hana wrote:Yeah and i got the same feeling about you now that N1395 ended
VOTE: FSnake
Because he seems very reluctant to compromise or take stances

I got a similar feel on banana where his posts seem like they say something but in the end say nothing, but it could be attributed to the fact that he's a newbie and doesn't know how to contribute, anyone got more thoughts on this?
Whats so wrong with not taking compromises?
In post 365, Sakura Hana wrote: - Complaining about a guy Complaining.
This is complaining about a guy complaining about a guy complaining. Hardly a scum tell. Like a lot of your accusations against Fuzzy, Bert, or Saki.

Also the Bert/Saki interactions are too blatant to be scum together imo.
In post 376, Timeater wrote:sorry, forgot i'm going to have to spell everything out in this game. gif and tne are obvious town. there is no way in a thousand hells gif is this chittery-chattery as mafia throwing out townreads left and right trying to organize the discussion, no way he's that ballsy no way he's that good. he's town, his genuineness just reeks. as for tne, its sort of the same. usually people who have extremely strong convinctions and tend to think they are right all the time are town.

sakura might actually be scum considering that response, need to think about it more
Because only town can have conviction? And it cant be faked? What? Bad reason for a read. Soooo generic.

More votes on this guy please
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Post Post #439 (isolation #12) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:19 am

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Pretty much, not much has happened while I was gone
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Post Post #443 (isolation #13) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:22 am

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Scum really wouldnt risk being seen like that, imo.
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Post Post #446 (isolation #14) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:26 am

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I am going to say i think Bert, Sakura and fuzzy are town
Mac is leaning town.
Null on banana, Saki, and aquaman (
ETL, prod please, if you havent already done so

leaning scum on GiF and tne.
Scum on timeeater

EBWOP:
Have you seen it done before?

Aquaman still has ~3 hours, but he will be receiving a prod today. :]
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Post Post #451 (isolation #15) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:35 am

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Can you provide evidence for scum Sakura wifoming and town sakura not doing that? I really think she is town
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Post Post #460 (isolation #16) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 3:42 am

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fuzzy, he was just showing off. or being excited about it. Not really an issue here..

Anyway Saki provide a Sakura town game then
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Post Post #482 (isolation #17) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:15 am

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Sakura, maybe its because the test didnt involve an actual vote?
Anyway, reaction tests are not automatically town because scum can do it for town cred.
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Post Post #484 (isolation #18) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 4:16 am

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In post 480, EspeciallyTheLies wrote:Mine

Holy crap. Nothing all night and then +2 pages. ILY guys <3
Lol we love you too ETL :P
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Post Post #534 (isolation #19) » Thu Aug 01, 2013 11:25 am

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Im having problems with people who's readlists have not had solid scum, just people "leaning scum"
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Post Post #574 (isolation #20) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:41 am

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Saki, whats with the vote jumping? Seriously, why not just pressure your supposed primary scum read

Time, vote parking and tunneling are not alignment indicative, both town and scum do them.
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Post Post #576 (isolation #21) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 6:44 am

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Aside from meta reasons, why is she scum? You have yet to provide me withna Sakura town game as a counter example.
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Post Post #595 (isolation #22) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 12:47 pm

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Banana, why cant scum be polite?
Even then, this is playstyle. rach always plays like this regardless of alignement.

More votes on Timeater pls, kthnx
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Post Post #598 (isolation #23) » Fri Aug 02, 2013 1:05 pm

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Tip, dont change your reads everytime someone questions them. I am not sure if you are scared newb town or conformist newb scum.
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Post Post #661 (isolation #24) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:38 pm

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I think its Timeater on the count of him saying "scum could be Rach" without voting or expressing prior suspicion to such.

VOTE: Timeater
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Post Post #664 (isolation #25) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:43 pm

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I think Saki could be town for that hammer. I've seen town Saki quickhammer day 1 but I never see scum Saki quickhammer unless its lylo.
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Post Post #665 (isolation #26) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:43 pm

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Aquaman is also a good lynch.
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Post Post #671 (isolation #27) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:47 pm

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In post 666, GuyInFreezer wrote:I realized that I'm a total sucker for newbs after a certain newbie game but I think aquaman is just a newb.
Yes and after that newbie game (fuck), do you think Saki is town for it. Especially how he hammered?
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Post Post #673 (isolation #28) » Tue Aug 06, 2013 12:51 pm

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You guys should sheep me on the Timeater wagon :P
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Post Post #722 (isolation #29) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 12:53 am

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In post 613, Timeater wrote:the point of the game isnt to discuss things

also rach is probably mafia i agree
Convenient, don't you think? Rach is mafia, conveniently said right about the time she was lynched. Distancing without voting. Bad move Time. You are next. People should sheep me on this.

On it being a bus vote? Not sure about that GiF, would scum want to lynch scum day 1? When there were other avenues to pursue and the deadline was not even close?

I dont think Saki would have blatantly bussed like that, by saying a fake "L-1". What is the scum motivation in doing such? To look town? Really?

Toxic, stop set up speculation, who do you think is scum here? Why is vote hopping bad?

@Everyone: Why the hell is Timeater town? This isn't OMGUS on my part because on my first serious vote I voted him then he tried to discredit me by saying Im still in RVS when it was clear my vote wasn't random and he OMGUS-ed me, FSnake.
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Post Post #756 (isolation #30) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:04 pm

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Keep your votes until he claims what PR and what he did.
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Post Post #757 (isolation #31) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:16 pm

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Time you were under no pressure to claim. So why did you?
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Post Post #758 (isolation #32) » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:16 pm

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In post 746, Timeater wrote:also mac is town

sry mac
On what grounds? Why were you confident on him being scum earlier?
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Post Post #773 (isolation #33) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:00 am

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Cop, thats bullshit.

Guys we have scum number 2 here.

I was skeptical about the PR here, but him claiming he had an inno on mac made no sense.

BECAUSE I FUCKING JAILED HIS SORRY ASS!!!

We shall lynch him now!
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Post Post #774 (isolation #34) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:01 am

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Love it. I might probably die tonight though. But at least we only have 1 scum to take care of Good luck town!
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Post Post #778 (isolation #35) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:08 am

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Why would I counterclaim as scum? If I was scum, I'd ensure my death tomorrow. And that would eliminate 2 scums cause Rach died D1. So its duimb for me to have done this as scum. But time is scum. And y'all should lynch now!

BTW if I was RB'd, that doesnt explain the No-NK. ME jailing scum does.
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Post Post #821 (isolation #36) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:00 am

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In post 812, Timeater wrote:lucky
Holy scum claim Batman.

Lets try to look for the third scum today
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Post Post #824 (isolation #37) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:02 am

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In post 823, Timeater wrote:i shoulda been more circlejerky
You could guve up now though :3
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Post Post #827 (isolation #38) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:03 am

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Wait, tell me who to JK time
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Post Post #830 (isolation #39) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:04 am

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UNVOTE:

We need more discussion time
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Post Post #835 (isolation #40) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:06 am

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Guys, third scum?

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Post Post #836 (isolation #41) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:06 am

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In post 833, Sakura Hana wrote:
In post 830, DoctorPepper wrote:UNVOTE:

We need more discussion time
Seconding this.
UNVOTE:
Actually we dont need a second unvote. Why the unvote Sakura? Lol
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Post Post #838 (isolation #42) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:08 am

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Okay no one hammer until we can get everyone's opinion on who the possible third scum is.
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Post Post #842 (isolation #43) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:09 am

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More wifom please time, who else shouldnt I jail?
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Post Post #846 (isolation #44) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:11 am

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Oh no slip! Lynch hum guys!

JK, we need more info
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Post Post #849 (isolation #45) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:13 am

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Who is your scum partner? How many scum are there?

Why fakeclaim cop? Why not wonder why no one died?

Why did you perform the kill?
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Post Post #853 (isolation #46) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:15 am

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Who else is town?

Why am I feeding the troll?
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Post Post #869 (isolation #47) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:24 am

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Sakura I was being sarcastic :/
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Post Post #875 (isolation #48) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:27 am

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I want to hear everyone's opinion first before we lynch (on who the last possible scum is)
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Post Post #897 (isolation #49) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:36 am

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Bump for ETL
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Post Post #898 (isolation #50) » Thu Aug 08, 2013 5:37 am

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All yours :)
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Post Post #1002 (isolation #51) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:20 am

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I am surprised to see that i survived today.

FSnake is cleared.

GiF, why did you kill Saki? I would have assumed you thought he was a PR after he hammered with an L-1 statement before to look like a quickhammer, like in that newbie game.
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Post Post #1003 (isolation #52) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:21 am

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In post 998, GuyInFreezer wrote:Hahahahahahaha
Ahahahahahahahahahahaha
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>Shot Saki
For the moment

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Post Post #1015 (isolation #53) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:55 am

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I think that makes sense. It could be toxic or aqua.

I'll vote after a VC
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Post Post #1041 (isolation #54) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 10:32 pm

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3 clears. Me, GiF (by virtue of another vig counter claiming) and FSnake

UNVOTE:

The self defeatist attitude of Aqua makes me doubt he is scum. Sooooo #YOLO

VOTE: Sakura Hana{/vote]

What are the odds of having a serial killer instead of 3 scum? Why was Mac killed? He could have been set up for an easy mislynch due to a cop read from Timeater (and his general play is labelled as scummy)
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Post Post #1043 (isolation #55) » Sun Aug 11, 2013 11:10 pm

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Good point

VOTE: Sakura Hana
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Post Post #1048 (isolation #56) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:50 am

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I think newbie scum would act less nonchalantly compared to Aquaman.

If it was newbie scum it could be toxic banana

Maybe for WIFOM reasons, scum decided not to kill me to get the newbs killed (which is something I do not understand)

So scum could be in {fuzzy, Sakura, tne, Bert} if not the newbs

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Post Post #1097 (isolation #57) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:10 pm

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We have 2 sets of neighbors?

Time to outguess the mod. Lol.

We should lynch between neighbors, and I'll JK the other one.

BTW Timeater got banned. Trololol.
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #58) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:18 pm

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I was thinking he was neighbors with Bert or something while being a tracker.

I do think Aquaman could be newb town and people are attacking him for it. Convince me otherwise, but I dont think he is scum
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Post Post #1102 (isolation #59) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:23 pm

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Yes but sheeping reads like that?
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Post Post #1103 (isolation #60) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:23 pm

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I just think people on his wagon are pretty opportunistic
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Post Post #1107 (isolation #61) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:32 pm

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Oh fuck, Gaiden. Well the issue here, Sakura, is that nobody suspected Gaiden, while everyone jumps on Aqua. Thats my problem
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #62) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:21 pm

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I will now dissociate myself from Newbie 1404. I fucking led 2 mislynch wagons and contributed to another one.

In hindsight, it should have tipped me off that Gaiden wasnt doing anything in mylo...

But Saki was too scummy :/

Anyway I've never completed a game with TNE before, so hownis he scum this time and what is town TNE? His wiki says he doesnt have meta.
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #63) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:29 pm

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He's at L-1 btw,
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Post Post #1131 (isolation #64) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:55 pm

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I dont know who Im jailing, Im leaning towards banana, bert, sakura, or fuzzy.

Me outing who Im jailing causes I shit load of wifom imo
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #65) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 12:58 pm

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*a shit load of wifom

Anyway, what are the odds of scum keeping me alive for WIFOM reasons?
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Post Post #1135 (isolation #66) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:03 pm

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Someone help me decide then, who should I jail?
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Post Post #1136 (isolation #67) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 1:05 pm

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Btw I meant that WIFOM over me not dying yesterday, not me dying tonight. I understand. Could die tonight as well, but what is the possibility that scum didnt kill me last night. Because it may help me rule out fuzzy from being a jail target.

In any case me not dying suggests banana. So unless Im convinced otherwise, im going there
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Post Post #1152 (isolation #68) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:45 am

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FYI, if we dont lynch Sakura today, I'll be jailing her
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Post Post #1161 (isolation #69) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:13 pm

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Bert.
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Post Post #1170 (isolation #70) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:23 pm

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Its weird that you start suspecting me when I suspected you
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Post Post #1174 (isolation #71) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:29 pm

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Think of it this way, if I was scum with Timeater, then why would I just willingly bus him like that AFTER Rach has died?

The weird part is you sheeped me all day until this point. And when I became suspicious of you, you try to discredit me by saying "It's also frustrating that we've had to put up with so many wagons at lynch -1 today, and you aren't exactly cooperative with any of them, and somehow this "confirmed JK" status gives you the right to do whatever you want and direct us."

Maybe I dont agree with some lyches, does that mean I have to CONFORM to your choices and not voice my opinion out now? WHere have I been non cooperative?

In fact, why are you so afraid of being jailed tonight?
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Post Post #1177 (isolation #72) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:35 pm

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Dubious JK choices? I jailed Scum Night 1 and prevented a kill.

Why not vote you? Because I suspect Sakura. Weren't you just trying to discredit me about not being able to cooperate on an L-1 wagon?

You are frustrated with me stating my opinion?

FYI, the win isnt perfect because people have died. Youre sure they are scum, I think you could be scum. Its so fucking weird that you kept agreeing with my choices before and now youre calling me out for having dubious choices
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Post Post #1178 (isolation #73) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:35 pm

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What do people think of Bert scum?
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Post Post #1182 (isolation #74) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:40 pm

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Bert, you do realize that if I jail you and you're town, we have at least 3 clears tomorrow in the pool of (GiF, Bert, DP, FSnake)
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #75) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:48 pm

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Nobody counter claimed Vig. Re you saying he is an SK? Because 3 Mafia and 1 SK is not balanced in a mini
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #76) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:51 pm

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ANSWER ME: Why the fuck would I bus Timeater if 1 of our scum partners has died DAY 1 and NOBODY DIED night 1.

Answer? Nothing? #YOLO?

How is 4 scum in 13p balanced?
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #77) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 1:53 pm

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Yes its wifom, but why would scum try to do something that is barely advantageous to them?
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Post Post #1250 (isolation #78) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 3:23 pm

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Post Post #1345 (isolation #79) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:07 pm

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Damn it GiF! If you shot toxic, we would have had a perfect win!

Great game guys, more thoughts later.

ETL, since youre one of my favorite people on site, can I have a pre-in? :D
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Post Post #1347 (isolation #80) » Tue Aug 20, 2013 2:45 pm

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Bert you can repay me by hydra-ing with me sometime :P

I love crazy players

Guyett, claiming cop really wouldn't have worked xP this was your best option but unfortunately I think it was set.
I was freaking out a the dead QT lol because I thought people were clearing Sakura when I jailed Bert

Anyway, we had a great game and Im just reaaaaaallly lucky when im JK.

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