Newbie 1419 - GAME OVER

[Bert]

Hi everyone!

It is always darkest before dawn...

Let's find scum!

[Bert]

I'm Bert and I've been on Amrun's replacement waiting list for a while now.

I was hoping to play scum against Nacho, but NOOOOOOOO.... I had to replace into a townslot where I cannot torment Nacho with my evil-tacular ways

[Bert]

VOTE: Bert

Ain't letting me get settled, you doofus <3

Don't you make this a 514 Mara, lemme get settled, I haven't even read all the players' names yet or any of the game yet



I love you Mamma, don't you dare do this to Pappa

Don't you dare

or I'll come and getcha real good

[Bert]

OH shit.

Deadline's tomorrow?



OK, VT.


Don't bother waiting for a claim lol. I haven't even read the game yet.

I'll be done by tonight since I have school tomorrow morning

[Bert]

Titus – remember you from 513 nightless, you Little scumbag

Notscience nachomamma I know

Everyone else must be a newbie. Oh dear Nacho, you deceptive little rascal, you are here warping people’s minds aren’t you, AREN’T YOU

OK so someone named PHOK, SHII, VERBS, FLAMMUS, and BRIAN

Got it.

Unvote, Vote: phokdapolees

VOTE: Titus

HEY, HEY you just voted me, why'd you remove your vote. I'm your votee remember???

NS, for what it's worth, I'm completely reassured about you.

I haven't read the game, but what makes you so reassured about ns. That's a little weird to hear from you

[Bert]

Pertaining to the actual game, I just finished catching up on everything, and here's what I think so far (forgive me if I mix up facts or something like that, it's hard absorbing 271 posts in a short amount of time). Nacho and Shii are my strongest town reads so far, both are actively scumhunting and analyzing information accurately. I'm also getting the feeling that Brian is town, he has a lot of reasoning behind his actions, and his analyses have been better than I would expect for a newbie. I get the vibe that Flammus is town too based off of his posts alone, but that gambit in the beginning by Mail still makes me a little suspicious. I'm not sure exactly what to think of Titus, some actions seem pro-town, some seem anti-town, null on this one. Verbs, null-scum in my opinion, seems suspicious because of the supposed reasoning behind Mail's gambit, but that's not enough to make me too suspicious of him. I'm suspicious of JKMatthews and notscience the most, JKM because of the situation with Mail's replacement and asking for a lynch, and notscience because of low levels of activity and not much reasoning behind the vote for Shii.

Reading backwards and I came across this, so...

Vote: phok

For the moment.

This is filled with uncertainty, this post...."yeah, I'm not sure, it seems this way, but yeah some don't seem that way, but yeah those posts are X, but yeah...." you get my drift

It's way too roundabout and makes no sense, it's like this person is trying so hard to look down



Guys have a cookie while you watch me read

because I like people satisfying their hungers,

COOKIES ARE BRAIN FOOD

remember dat

[Bert]

GUT READS UPON FIRST QUICK QUICK RE-READ

notscience town

Brian guy TOWN TOWN TOWN

Titus don't like

the shiidaji (sp) person town

verbs null

nacho TBD

don't like phok

[Bert]

Don't worry, guys and gals, we are gonna find two scumheads to decapitate!

let's go for DA WIN!



@Phok: re-do your reads list now and tell us who your top two choices for lynch are.

Do it now. OR else.

[Bert]

Who let me nacho and bert be town together again

our time may be limited this time if Nacho is indeed town

I haven't had enough re-reads of this game to have a concrete opinion of Nacho yet, but I trust your read so far because I believe you to be town

Nacho, Micro 213 was a good learning experience for me so thanks. Maki's paranoia and kcda (who I dismissed too easily) stick out - and from reading this game, I bet there is a reason you read JK as scum here but not in 213

This is actually my first newbie on Bert since my first and second games (both involving Nacho - 1229 and 1361).

[Bert]

surviving to Day 3 in a newbie game is generally a pretty reliable tell if i seem to be playing decently.

Yup.

I bet there is a reason you read JK as scum here but not in 213

yeah.
JKM's play here was different from his play in earlygame 213, but similar to his play in lylo right before he replaced out. so i was left in a bit of a predicament before you came in the thread.

That's really odd...

Yeah, JKM's early play in D1 was a little weird and I didn't like him - late D1 near deadline liked him a lot - D2 I dismissed him as town, and then D3 his play was wayyyyyyy scum lol

Bert you should read him because I don't know what to look for in scumnacho

Not great at reading him myself. I'd say just look for his motives on D2 and see if they feel natural.

[Bert]

(con't):

Second re-read done. GUT READS (EMPHASIS ON 'GUT') as in a big beer GUT

Shiidaji moves from leaning town to null

Nacho moves from TBD to town - seems to be 'enjoying' IC-ing, and that part with Brian screams genuine

verbs moves from null to town

Titus - I would like to see Titus eat rope UGHHHHHHH lack of committing to forceful reads is gettign to me. Holy shit both games I've replaced in with you in them, you are scum and notscience is town. Holy....

Spoiler:

JK...... <3

Why did you have to be the one I replaced - my reads are on par with yours and I hate the same posts by Titus that you did. You hit the nail on the head, JK. Lack of commitment to reads by Titus. Ditto. Ditto. Darnit.

EWWWWWWWWW

UNVOTE:

I want to see this play out. JKM or Verbs both look scummy right now. Yet, their posts suggest they are unlikely a scum team together. JKM seems to be carelessly reading (giving the benefit of the doubt he wasn't pushing for an MM replacement fast lynch but misread) and strongly pushing lynches on Day 1 in the early stage. We have plenty to pressure with but lynch no.

Verbs seems to have scum motivation in his posts as previously discussed. Yet, he seems afraid to OMGUS.

The last few posts suggest they are not a scum team together though, at least that's my read.

@JKM, Really, you cannot see town motivation behind analyzing players early? If you didn't want MM lynched, like you claimed, then you just immediately turned your attention to the first player to post content and attacked. That doesn't make much sense either.

@Verbs, explain now please.

I am committed to being observant. I took a position but I generally do not play recklessly. The further Verbs responds to the arguments, the further I am to figure out which is scum.

No. OMGUS is spotted and discredited. Fearing of OMGUS suggests scum as they are focused more of appearances than actual substance. Yet was poor word choice due to fatigue.

The more I get into this game and the more I talk with y'all, the better I'll be able to start going back and forth with you, but we're short on time (unfortunately). So gut reads is all you have to get from me for now.

[Bert]

EBWOP: I hate the excuse "I'm fearful of playing recklessly," which is along the lines of what Titus is implying.

That is just a terrible excuse for having to watch things play out and sit in the backseat and get some popcorn and watch a movie. We will not allow that. Never eva eva.

1) The previous slot-holder, lettersGaiden, has a ton of posts, but almost no content. They are mostly prod dodges, random votes, and "what u thinking" based questions. Nothing really beneficial for the town. It could just be her not knowing how to deal with other players taking the lead. But considering how she won her first game as scum, this concerns me (and I've expressed this before). And I wouldn't put it past her to utilize the same strategy.

Oh hi Brian! Yes, I see you have done research on Gaiden. Me too. Too bad we can't share our thoughts - at least it might not be prudent - we don't have much time remaining until it looks like Phok is gonna eat rope (unless we swing a flash wagon lol).

VOTE: Titus

Gun to your head. Is this scum Titus that we saw in 513 Nightless? How sure are you compared to Phok? I'm willing to swing over to Titus if you're all on board.

@Nacho

Who's the scum team right now for you? In case you fly out into the sunset, we need to win it for you but also be mindful of people sheeping your reads for ill-advised reasons

[Bert]

Unvote

I will hammer later. Titus you can put your lynch -1 vote in and I'll hammer when I wake up.

Also Nacho are you sure you wanna go with Phok or...

Notscience, same question

[Bert]

I'm fine with Phok. Titus is the bigger threat, that's why I was making sure.

[Bert]

EBWOP: Phok, if you see this, claim ASAP

[Bert]

Lmao Titus we went after each other in 513

Here we go again, and you tried to get Mistscum to Dayvig me

I've done more than just say Im town. Way to misrep. I'm not on my phone otherwise i would add a GIf for entertainment purposes

Also, 66.6666% chance there's a doc or Jailkeeper. Please if there is, in case a noob here has that ability, please protect Nachomamma at night.

Please. He's a common Standard night 1 kill.

[Bert]

EBWOP: me and Brian Skies, Titus? Are you kidding me

Damn where are my GIFs when I need them - phone access only smh

[Bert]

I am thinking this guy is an epicly bad newbie but it seems like it's him or no lynch. This doesn't read newbie scum though. I will hammer when I leave to go to bed. I won't be back before then and we need a day 1 lynch.

Nacho, this post by Titus sorta hints to me that Titus knows Phok will flip town. That's why I got second thoughts for a minute there

[Bert]

EBWOP: Titus, how are all my posts self-vouching?

[Bert]

Hey Nacho what did he say that made you breathe more evenly

Nacho Brian Bert

Notscience later

11 hours...do we have enough firepower to swing

We need one more to show up

Wish we could get reminders sent out to everyone

I hate how he's stuck on Verbs and Brian Skies and me and he's showing very little flexibility or force or originality

That's how I feel

Titus I will be after you until the day you die

I hope you know that

Notscience will help me. We will get you

[Bert]

I am really liking Flammus's recent posts. In particular his response to my 218 and 232. I like 218 because I sometimes can be very dismissive of behaviors when I feel there is no evidence there. It's a flaw that I do need to work on. 232 has a good chunk of theory but it also gives a decent explanation of how Flammus feels about the gambit and the theory cannot be separated from the explanation so it is excusable.

Brian's comments about both himself and Letters Garden seem to be coming from a place similar to my own, like I expected. I would cede the points I know must be ceded and he has done so before even being attacked for his perceived lack of inactivity. That being said, neither of the players seem that inactive to me, so Brian's argument is valid but not sound. I'm much more worried about Verbs's disappearing act.

Mod, can we get a prod?

Shiidaji seems to have a set of expectations for normal and abnormal play. That might be a problem. I do proceed logically but I tend not to always follow social norms. I'm leaning town here.


@JKM, That was a pretty big overreaction to me giving a slight town read to M-M's slot if you never had any intention of getting M-M lynched.

Titus this is your last mention of Brian. Why is Brian scum - what's the reasoning behind your scumread of him??

[Bert]

Are you kidding me

Those were my two opening posts before I even read the game

Now tell me why Brian is a scumread

[Bert]

Forget it, Im not hammering Phok

Someone else can (and will), but Im not helping

Vote: Titus

#rebel

EBWOP: "only scum self-vouch that fast?" I do it all the time, that doesn't mean anything. That's your case, that only scum self-vouch that fast? Hahahahaha

Oh and your explanation on Brian is vague and unacceptable

[Bert]

I want your list of reads, Titus. Now. At this rate, you're dying tomorrow or Ill die trying.

[Bert]

What "last part" are you talking about with regard to Brian?

Is "he hasn't done anything to make me think he's town" the basis for being your second highest scumread? Hahahaha yeah no not buying that

[Bert]

Oh, and also the two people I have hydra'd with, ever, are both in this game right now - notscience and Nacho. Nacho reads me like an open book, and most of my games have been with him.

It's not just a coincidence that I come in and they both townread me.

Titus if you're town (doubt it) and think Im not with Nacho as a scumteam (you don't), then you ought to take that under consideration just a wee bit, dontcha think?

Why so stubborn and looking with such a narrow perspectiv

[Bert]

Whatever, You're dead tomorrow by the way. book it, scumbag

Ill be here at deadline so you can wait

It'll be me or you

See you on Day 2. I'll be ready and waiting.


And if there's a doc or JK please please protect Nacho

[Bert]

Hydra means to merge with another player (s) and play together in a game as one account

[Bert]

Wow what a great attitude lol

[Bert]

It's called tunneling because I'm 95% sure Titus is scum

[Bert]

But I need help from others who can make solid cases against him

The gut feels what it feels

[Bert]

I'll hammer later, Im not that bad to force a no lynch. But I'm not helping until we get some more beautiful discussion in

[Bert]

Brian notscience Bert Nacho - one does tonight most likely (probably nacho unfortunately but I hope not), so we just need one recruit tomorrow to lynch Titus

I like those chances


Wow I always get into these games where Nacho is here...gives me that extra burst of passion

Tomorrows gon be beautiful

Sweet dreams and leave Nacho the hell alone, scumbags

Sorry being ornery here on my phone - cant edit well -

[Bert]

Phok you're online

Would you be willing to help us lynch Titus by any chance

[Bert]

I'm stubborn by the way - I often stay up late until deadline

Shiidaji are you still retreading? Please check in

[Bert]

Yes, everyone will try to look town, so those red flags are disguised and harder to spot

Phok if you check in, mind voting Titus to save yourself potentially(not a guarantee)?

Shiidaji...

Notscience you'll be here before deadline I bet

Nacho u might idk

Anyone

[Bert]

I am off until hammer time unless a miracle happens. If you'll hammer me, really look at Bert as scum. That slot is scummy as hell. In the rare event I get to L-1 and cannot claim, I am a VT. The town needs a lynch, if it's me well fuck this game.

There are less than 12 hours in the day. Bert is trying to make a no lynch happen.

Funny thing is shortly before he died in 513, he told the town to look at me next.

Lol

[Bert]

Thanks Phok

Three down, two to go

Nacho notscience flammus shiidaji? Verbs?

Anyone... I will be here till deadline, so no worries

[Bert]

I'm that positive that Phok is a mislynch

And Titus is scum

Just two more votes on Titus needed

We can do this

Notscience will be here in a few hours, just any one of you people not voting are needed

[Bert]

Yes.

[Bert]

Yeah, no worries. Nothing like dorm life! Hope your evening is going well too!

[Bert]

Hey that's what my day will be like today. Sounds about right.

I hear ya about textbook prices...

[Bert]

My home is a ways from campus, but I miss it a lot and go home on weekends, etc.

[Bert]

Ah I'm about to fall asleep.

Vote: phokdapolees

Sorry.

Hope your next game goes well. Wish this one had worked out better. I had the initial scumread on you but then I began to see you as newb town. Alas, too little too late. I can only hope Im wrong.

Mod, you've been awesome with your VC's and GIFS. Thumbs up!!

Look forward to the rest of this game, y'all.

See you on D2. Onwards and upwards

Wish this day had lasted longer during my time here.

Nacho you've played well.

And to all students, Im in the same boat!

Lets win this thing

Self vouching? Yup I sure do that. Not scummy. Scummy my arse! Scum tells are different for each player. It's my game spirit

If I had been given more than 15 hours work with, maybe the outcome might have been different.

[Bert]

Best of luck with the flip. Lol time for class in an hour

Sorry Nacho I tried to lead a flash wagon

I still love ya <3333

[Bert]

Doubt Phok is scum

But Im glad I spared you some crying <3

And Titus likes to accuse me and tell others to look at me after death

Same as 513, and ignoring others' reads on me

Again. Lame. Scum.

[Bert]

Titus if there's any chance you're town, I hope you get investigated and/or NKed but I doubt it

[Bert]

Please protect Nachomamma if there's a JK or doc out there!

[Bert]

FINALLY I'M ON A COMPUTER AND DON"T HAVE TO ACT ALL STUPID <3333

OK



Nacho will you take my trident, sir??

I CAN TYPE HOORAY!!!!

Titus you're still the lynch for tomorrow regardless of the flip

We will be there.

BOOK IT

YA HEAR?

notscience, brian, me (Nacho probably dies )

So you are going down down down

to down town!

And I'll be catching up and re-reading time after time during the night

I got my head in this game because I want to win a game for Nacho!! and notscience

HELL YES

and one more "game spirit is a scumtell" and I will call you an annoyance!!!!

[Bert]

Me after the lynch:

Spoiler:

Nacho after seeing Phok lynched:

Spoiler:

I shall sell you all townies some pitchforks!!

Come on down, lovelies!!!

Good night and sweet freakin dreams!



Nacho I really am the troll that never dies, aren't I? Only when you're around, love

hope to see you D2

[Bert]

Last post: This is Titus while making a case on me as scum

[Bert]

Nooooo
You know they're gonna try to kill you

You know it

[Bert]

No I don't want to lose you!!

It's happened too many a time

D2 without you is a cruel, cruel world, love

[Bert]

We can figure the game out more together and reset as needed!!!

[Bert]

Okay so doctor if you exist, please protect Nacho!!

Jailkeeper you can protect Nacho or Jailkeep your top scumread! I recommend jail keeping Nacho though

[Bert]

Class now - ahhhhhhh the flip will be here in the afternoon likely

!!!!

[Bert]

OTTERCOCKS!!!!!!!!!!!

BAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bert]

Good game, y'all!!! Thanks Amrun <333333333333

And notscience I was pulling for you! Came up just short...

<3 And yeah, Shii is around but decided to flake from this game which is unfortunate. Oh well!

[Bert]

Notscience you definitely stepped it up in MYLO though! Props.