Xenogears Mafia (Game Over)

Venmar · Post Post #36 (isolation #1) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:01 am

OKAY EVERYONE LISTEN UP, READ THIS POST BEFORE YOU POST.

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Claim: PGO

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THIS IS NOT A JOKE, THIS IS NOT A TEST, I'M A PGO SO IF YOU'RE SCUM PLEASE TARGET ME KTHX

Venmar · Post Post #40 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:36 am

Wow.

Vote: TiphaineDeath

Scum caught, vote away!

GO BE FREE MY LITTLE BIRDS, LYNCH HIM

We are not in RVS anymore, this is a serious vote, please lynch.

Venmar · Post Post #42 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:48 am

In post 38, TiphaineDeath wrote:I. Don't. Even. All you stupid fuckers need to stop PGO claiming, either it's a bad gambit, or you are one in which case you should be playing in such a way that scum will target you and not town to get free kills instead of dumbassing. Heavily tempted to vote venmar here....

THIS IS A SCUMPOST, LYNCH IT

Venmar · Post Post #46 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:56 am

OH NICK YOU SO CUTE.

But you voting the wrong person bbg, its TP

Venmar · Post Post #47 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:56 am

TD whatever.

Venmar · Post Post #73 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:02 am

In post 53, Faster Than Light wrote:TD's response of frustration is interesting. Dunno if it merits a vote.
Venmar, I get the feeling there's gonna be a lot of targeting kinds of PRs, just given the nature of the source material and the large setup. PGO seems like a pretty damn simultaneously safe and polarizing claim to make on D1.
Is it too scummy to be scum, though? I mean, this is the perfect window for the claim--early and before any large wagons form.
The problem is that it polarizes the game too much.
If you're town, scum won't kill you either out of fear or to WIFOM town into lynching you.
If you're scum, town'll be hesitant to lynch you due to your power.
It's a strong claim both ways, so I guess I'll read it as null/leaning-scum.
I want to discuss more with my other head before I vote, but FoS on Venmar. Still getting used to what it means to hydra.
I don't think TD's response is very scum, but just frustration-tell.

lol, hello mr.waffle

In post 61, nickthename wrote:As to Venmar, I feel like town would want to hold on to the claim, and use it against the scum, instead of claiming page 2. Perhaps this is a playstyle thing, but such an early, reasonless claim comes across as an attempt for scum to get their foot in the door with a fakeclaim early.

lol, you must be new here

Venmar · Post Post #74 (isolation #7) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:04 am

I'm going to play the role I got dealt however I see fit, I used it to claim immediately to make sure town doesn't kill themselves on it, but more importantly to gauge reactions out of people and I think TD is scum for his reaction.

Venmar · Post Post #88 (isolation #8) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:36 am

Game needs more TD votes.

Varsoon hydra is also scummy for whatever the fuck that waffle was on me.

Hi Majiffy

Venmar · Post Post #89 (isolation #9) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:36 am

In post 86, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Who the fuck are all you non-Breaking Bad watching people and where do you come from.

The second half of season 5 aired? I DIDN'T KNOW THIS

Venmar · Post Post #116 (isolation #10) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:50 am

IM LOVING THESE TD VOTES, I'M LOVING THEM

@Majiffy - No I actually didn't know Breaking Bad S5 aired, i need to get to those ASAP, I remember walts brother in law shitting on the toilet and having what looked like a realizationgasm

Venmar · Post Post #125 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:59 am

In post 98, zMuffinMan wrote:
tiphaine wrote:I want zmuffin to answer this, not ven, what's scummy about my post?
If by "scummy", you mean "something that scum does", then I think your post is scummy because it came from you.

This should be fairly straight-forward.

If you're asking how I know you're scum from this, then it comes down to two reasons. The first is that I see no town reason to vent your frustration here, especially since his play as a PGO is valid and makes sense, and I see every reason why you as scum would think that making a big deal out of it would possibly make you seem more town because you didn't consider that it was a good move for a town PGO to make. The second is my personal belief that the way in which you said what you said was awful and fake.

Also, since that post, I don't believe you have no better place to put your vote than where it currently is for RVS reasons... You could have even voted me, and at least pretended to apply some pressure to me, but you didn't. So yep, you're scum and you need to die. This part is no longer valid as of #93, but you're still scum.

More votes on TD please. TY.

Just to add to this....

Scum are very prone and likely to trying to reveal reaction tests. While my claim is legit, TD tried to instantly debunk it by saying " haha you didn't fool me " and blamed me for trying to make a gambit, which is a scum minded approach to my claim. In either case, it was a scum reaction that had a lot of what I think is fake frustration. Not trying to be a dick about that, but the post looked too organized and formulated to look like real frustration.

Venmar · Post Post #131 (isolation #12) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:03 am

In post 121, TiphaineDeath wrote:I feel that claiming PGO is bad as a pgo, the same way claiming bomb is bad even if you know there is a vig in the game.

It's tantamount to saying "I don't think I can play my role well enough to make it usefull so i'm going to go ahead and be a vanilla townie that needs to be lynched before lylo." You take a role that can be a great errr good thing, to the town, and make it a detriment. I know that it can be a horrible detriment to the town if played badly, but that's not a fucking excuse. When you're given a role, you play that role to your win condition.

It just.... it bugs me...

PGO is a negative role since town PR roles are more likely to visit me than a scum in a large theme. I hope you realize that claiming PGO pretty much makes sure town powerroles don't blow themselves up on me, so i AM playing to my win condition. The fact scum are less likely to risk killing me can also be a good thing, but I don't think PGO's are meant to played aggressively against the scum, and i'm not even close to being a good enough player to achieve this without killing a couple townies along the way.

Venmar · Post Post #132 (isolation #13) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:04 am

In post 128, TiphaineDeath wrote:.... Fuck you venmar, I think you played horribly and I told you so. That doesn't make me scum, get over yourself.

It's okay, drink some kool-aid.

Venmar · Post Post #282 (isolation #14) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:20 am

Cool 6 pages.

PEdit: What I do

Venmar · Post Post #288 (isolation #15) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:24 am

How the fuck was I opportunistic, stop discrediting a completely valid wagon

Venmar · Post Post #301 (isolation #16) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:31 am

For once in this game I wish Majiffy/PM ( sign your posts darn it ) would stop asking useless questions and answer mine.

TD's outbursts have a lot of flail. His would look a bit townie if he wasn't flailing so hard, but all I see if scum flail and scum rage.

Venmar · Post Post #338 (isolation #17) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:59 am

In post 326, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Ok let me explain this to you. When you're trying to garner an emotional reaction from someone; YOU WANT AN EMOTIONAL REACTION.

Mind you - either alignment can HAVE an emotional reaction; it's HOW they react that matters.

But if you push someone for an emotional reaction and they've got faces calm as a Hindu cow, that means that IF AND ONLY IF YOU ARE CERTAIN THEY ARE FEELING PRESSURE: They're probably scum.

Town has no reason to avoid flipping out, at least not on a primal/reactionary/emotional level. They won't think to themselves "oh god, I had better not flip out!", they just FLIP OUT.

SCUM, on the other hand, will sit back and try to calm themselves down so they don't react negatively. THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE. Thus a LACK of a reaction is a SCUM reaction. You're not looking for CALM townies. You're looking for CALM SCUM.

- The fact you think scum don't flip out or rage or have more than just calm reactions proves to me I don't think you realize what you're talking about, and are just trying to make a one-sided argument ( that isn't one-sided ) to justify TD as town, which he is not.

Scum can rage, scum can have emotional outburts, ITS ALL PART OF TRYING TO LOOK TOWN. Scum just don't DO IT as well as town, and their rage is usually FAKE. I don't think TD's rage is coming from town.

PEditx9001: Let me post ffs

Venmar · Post Post #350 (isolation #18) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:04 am

In post 344, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 338, Venmar wrote:- The fact you think scum don't flip out or rage or have more than just calm reactions proves to me I don't think you realize what you're talking about
Hi, are you reading?
In post 326, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: Mind you - either alignment can HAVE an emotional reaction; it's HOW they react that matters.
Apparently not. Fuck off, Venmar, I'm working.

Then i'm fucking telling you TD's response WAS NOT FUCKING TOWN

Venmar · Post Post #359 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:08 am

In post 356, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 350, Venmar wrote:Then i'm fucking telling you TD's response WAS NOT FUCKING TOWN
But you haven't told me
why
.

THEN START FUCKING READING MY PREVIOUS POSTS SMARTASS

Venmar · Post Post #364 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:10 am

In post 360, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:OH MY GOD THIS GAME IS PISSING ME OFF WHAT THE FUCK HOW COULD YOU BE SO STUPID I AM SO PISSED OFF
^ Can equally be posted by town or scum.

Fuck you, I had you down as town but now you're just being a douche on purpose

Venmar · Post Post #366 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:10 am

In post 363, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:How about I deal with the people I don't have solid reads on yet, mmkay?

Fucking jackass.

We got a badass over here

Venmar · Post Post #406 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:57 am

1. I don't think TD's reactions to his wagon are enough to make him town as compared to his reaction to my claim.
2. I don't think TD's reactions to his wagon are all that townie to begin with.

And I've said why, maybe not directly, but I did in #301

Venmar · Post Post #454 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 2:29 pm

In post 420, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 406, Venmar wrote:
1. I don't think TD's reactions to his wagon are enough to make him town as compared to his reaction to my claim.

2. I don't think TD's reactions to his wagon are all that townie to begin with.

And I've said why, maybe not directly, but I did in #301
town flail too. I think the most important skill a townie can learn is differentiating the difference between scum flail and town flail. it took me a long time to learn it and I am still learning. do you think you have that skill?

Like I said, look at #1 in my post.

But yes, i'd like to say i'm decent at having this skill. Town flail less often than scum at the very least.

Venmar · Post Post #466 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:07 pm

In post 460, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 454, Venmar wrote:
In post 420, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 406, Venmar wrote:
1. I don't think TD's reactions to his wagon are enough to make him town as compared to his reaction to my claim.

2. I don't think TD's reactions to his wagon are all that townie to begin with.

And I've said why, maybe not directly, but I did in #301
town flail too. I think the most important skill a townie can learn is differentiating the difference between scum flail and town flail. it took me a long time to learn it and I am still learning. do you think you have that skill?
Like I said, look at #1 in my post.

But yes, i'd like to say i'm decent at having this skill.
Town flail less often than scum at the very least
.
not true in the least.

in response to #1, I had the same reaction as I was reading so mebbe you should throw that out the window

Well then in that case you're dumber than I thought.

Now you're just whiteknighting the living fuck out of TD.

And I want both you and Majiffy ( or you and PM Idfc ) to realize i'm not going to drop my TD scumread for you.

Venmar · Post Post #474 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:25 pm

In post 468, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I find venny's hostility weird.

I'm not being hostile as much as i've been being forward with you two. And don't dare call me hostile when your hydra'd with Majiffy.

Venmar · Post Post #562 (isolation #26) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:32 am

Hi Nacho

Venmar · Post Post #599 (isolation #27) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:43 am

Unvote: TD

Venmar · Post Post #600 (isolation #28) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:47 am

To be fair nobody ever listens to my scumreads just like nobody wanted to listen to me about Rach in the last Xeno so I had to kill myself to get you people to realize it. Perhaps I shouldn't even try in this game.

The above unvote is actually me rethinking my read a little bit, but keep what I just said above in mind.

Venmar · Post Post #602 (isolation #29) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:49 am

I have no reason to do it, i'm just frustrated.

Venmar · Post Post #633 (isolation #30) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:13 am

In post 628, Andrius wrote:DAMN this thread exploded.

Going to go grocery shopping
and then I'll be here.

Lol what a badass

Venmar · Post Post #637 (isolation #31) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:20 am

Ok i've been such a douche so far this game, sorry Mollie/Majiffy, and everyone else, I was in a bad mood in general yesterday. Gonna try to set things straight.

I'm still trying to iron things out, but atm I feel comfortable calling BnB, Muffin, notscience, and I think Trust Fund as town.

I have TD currently as null, I still have my doubts on the guy but I think his recent posts have been a very large improvement from what he has done earlier on in the game, seeing some town motivation here.

Going to need to see more from Nacho before I make any reads on him, i'll let you guys know if he's town or scum soon enough.

Scumreads right now are probably Mastin and FTL

Everyone else I don't really have concrete reads on yet, so mostly null. I'm getting on top of this game soon guys.

Venmar · Post Post #645 (isolation #32) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:53 am

@Nacho - There wasn't really anything to address, you just called me scum and voted for me. Not ignoring you bbg, what do you want to talk about?

Venmar · Post Post #649 (isolation #33) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:01 am

@Trust Fund - Mastin scumread is mainly gut, but I don't think this is his town meta. He tries really hard as scum to appeal to others, which is basically all of what his 2 posts are, him complaining and trying really hard to look town. Both of his posts have like 0 content in them and don't hold much fruit, they're just him complaining/AtEing and not doing any kind of substantial scumhunting or being productive, which is what he said he would be in his 1st post (#240), but 228 posts later he comes with with his 2nd post (#448) with him just complaining and slapping on random reads.

Not to mention Mastin-town is way more productive and active, and generally is an active scumhunter. As scum he tends to be more appealing and passive, and tends to choose weird and obscure ( or unpopular ) votes in general.

I think i'll have to develop this read a bit further... it's still mostly gut despite of what I just said above. I'll make a vote somewhat shortly.

Venmar · Post Post #651 (isolation #34) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:05 am

Lol, I think Andy walls are the only walls i real cause they're funny

Venmar · Post Post #653 (isolation #35) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:06 am

In post 650, Andrius wrote: Venmar who's the scum?
I'll follow you to the ends of the Xenogears for last game. <3

- Not sure which game you're referring to

Also, you're already voting Mastin, so it's cool, you're on one of my scumreads. ( Read my post before your wall, I said why )

Venmar · Post Post #656 (isolation #36) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:09 am

Lol what did I do in Xenoblade.

Vote: Mastin2

Venmar · Post Post #659 (isolation #37) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:15 am

i think bork gave me this role so i don't try anything stupid this time and die like last game

thanks guardian angel borkjerfkin!

Venmar · Post Post #669 (isolation #38) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:22 am

In post 666, Andrius wrote:but im already full of the RAGE

Venmar · Post Post #717 (isolation #39) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 12:58 pm

I feel like most of the reasons for Rach-Town by Mastin in #715 are forced and untrue, I don't think he actually believes in most of those especially since he says things like " you could argue " or " technically ".

Venmar · Post Post #775 (isolation #40) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:28 pm

In post 722, mastin2 wrote:
In post 717, Venmar wrote:I feel like most of the reasons for Rach-Town by Mastin in #715 are forced and untrue, I don't think he actually believes in most of those especially since he says things like " you could argue " or " technically ".
Also worth noting: I'm saying "you could argue" and "technically"
for things about her being null or scum
. When it comes to my
actual
not-technically and not-you-could-arguely stance, that's where you see me saying she's town.

No your reasons are pretty weak considering I disagree with you everywhere you say "you could argue" and "technically", which is everywhere by the way. The reasoning you use to justify her as town in most of the points are flimsy or can be interpreted in so many ways I don't know why you're deciding to take them as town.

Gonna need to read into Mastins recent posts, but him being active and posty is a semi-towntell for him, though his appearance is a bit beetlejuicy and I don't like some of what he is posting, the above quote reponse being one of them.

Venmar · Post Post #777 (isolation #41) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:30 pm

Oh Andrius is town btw.

Also getting to the point where I am just not reading any of the BnB posts.

Venmar · Post Post #785 (isolation #42) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:36 pm

Andrius bitching at NS is not a scumtell

Venmar · Post Post #788 (isolation #43) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:38 pm

In post 786, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I don't think anyone purported that claim.

Then you must be referring to his wall post. No, that post wasn't scummy, try again.

Venmar · Post Post #792 (isolation #44) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:45 pm

In post 790, notscience wrote:Ven, what's your opinion on wall posts?

Pedit- Ah, good to know.

I don't read them.

Venmar · Post Post #794 (isolation #45) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:46 pm

In post 791, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 788, Venmar wrote:
In post 786, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I don't think anyone purported that claim.
Then you must be referring to his wall post. No, that post wasn't scummy, try again.
You'll note that I have Andy as a town read.

You'll also note a level of grammar in my posts.

You just said his post(s) were full of fluff...

Venmar · Post Post #795 (isolation #46) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:47 pm

In post 651, Venmar wrote:Lol, I think Andy walls are the only walls i read cause they're funny

Venmar · Post Post #799 (isolation #47) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:49 pm

The whole "no original thought" argument is questionable ever since people tried to boner that idea into trying to get me lynched in Red Wedding mafia when I was town.

Funny thing is, people pushing that idea were scum

FTR, nhammen's posts didn't look all that scummy, they felt genuine.

Venmar · Post Post #800 (isolation #48) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:51 pm

In post 797, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 794, Venmar wrote:You just said his post(s) were full of fluff...
Fluff isn't a scumtell.

Wut... *rage*

If you think Andrius is town, then why are you making a big deal out of him supposedly making fluff posts?

Out of curiosity, do you think the below post is fluff?

In post 659, Venmar wrote:i think bork gave me this role so i don't try anything stupid this time and die like last game

thanks guardian angel borkjerfkin!

Venmar · Post Post #806 (isolation #49) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 4:59 pm

"Looking like complete shit" is a discredit term FYI. Posting like "complete shit" doesn't really imply scum since town can do the same. Though I acknowledge your other reasons, so whatever, we'll have to agree to disagree like you said.

Fair enough on the the tell being reliable btw.

PEdit: If you want me to stop having problem differentiating between you two, then start signing your posts, or I will continue assuming whatever I want and won't be able to differentiating. Don't know what it is about typing two characters like -M or -P that is so hard.

Venmar · Post Post #807 (isolation #50) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:00 pm

In post 804, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 735, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 659, Venmar wrote:i think bork gave me this role so i don't try anything stupid this time and die like last game

thanks guardian angel borkjerfkin!
Why are you making posts like this? I see zero town motivation.

Realize the sarcasm in that post and the fact that it isn't meant to be serious. THANKS.

Venmar · Post Post #809 (isolation #51) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:02 pm

SIGN YOUR POSTS.

I won't cooperate otherwise.

Though if I know you, you won't sign just to annoy me.

Venmar · Post Post #811 (isolation #52) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:04 pm

In post 810, thezmon221 wrote:More complaining about the fact that the game was going at a high speed.

- Yeah but those read as GENUINE, and ESPECIALLY because he followed through by replacing out.

Venmar · Post Post #814 (isolation #53) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:06 pm

Why.... why..... why is everyone giving me all of these mixed signals?? wtf??

When you say " I see no thought and all he does is complains ", then don't be surprised when I assume your read is leaning scum or scum.

Venmar · Post Post #819 (isolation #54) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 5:09 pm

I'm suggesting I think it's town in this situation, especially considering the fact I already mentioned that the " no original thought " scumtell doesn't stick with me too well anymore.

Venmar · Post Post #841 (isolation #55) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:27 pm

In post 822, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: I tried to sign my posts last game but I forgot, it isn't my style. so I can make no promises

I am sorry for the hydra dissonance, I am trying to work it out in gchat. if I could get him to SHUT FOR ONE MOMENT it might get better.

I remember in rw people going after you for those reasons and do you remember I tried to steer people away from you? I picked up that you viewed cdb right off the bat - why do you think I was wanting to work with him so hard? did you read the dead qt where I gave you mad props for good crumbing? I didn't reach out to you as strongly cos I did not want to highlight you as a cop so I just followed your read.

and that is the problem I am having with you this game, it is like you have forgotten all of this. I am reaching out to you to the point where I am practically falling off a cliff.

lets fix this.

-mollie

Well, I think the key difference between me this game and me in RW is that I was a cop in RW, whereas here I am a PGO. Also, my early reads in RW were extremely horrendous, until I realized the problem, flipped the switch, and caught 2 scum right off the bat. I'm trying to go with that switch ON in this game, i'm trying mollie, I really am. People giving me mixed signals and all of this dissonance doesn't help me thought.

Venmar · Post Post #842 (isolation #56) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:29 pm

In post 832, Nachomamma8 wrote: This seems like something to comment on in and of itself, but maybe I'm expecting something that I shouldn't be. Do you have an opinion on BRO or Desp or Muffin?

I think Muffin is town. I'm also leaning town on Desperado I think. Currently null on BRO.

Venmar · Post Post #843 (isolation #57) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 6:33 pm

Riiiiiiiiiiight also Mala is town #837

Venmar · Post Post #890 (isolation #58) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:30 am

6 is a pretty big scumteam for 21 players

Venmar · Post Post #898 (isolation #59) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:42 am

I believe Mastin and FTL are scum like Nick, and that Muffin and Mala are town like Nick. Not to mention his vote on me in response to my claim which looked like he definitely had a read on me...

HOW DOES NICK NOT HAVE A READ ON ME, WTF IS THIS FAKE MADE UP BULLSHIT

Venmar · Post Post #980 (isolation #60) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:04 am

Mastin didn't put me on his reads list either.

Venmar · Post Post #1088 (isolation #61) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:55 pm

Preeeeeettyyy sure Nacho is town.

I think.

Venmar · Post Post #1091 (isolation #62) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:01 pm

Oh NOWWW you guys want to lynch Rach?

*silent rage*

Venmar · Post Post #1097 (isolation #63) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:12 pm

In post 1093, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 1091, Venmar wrote:Oh NOWWW you guys want to lynch Rach?

*silent rage*
It's okay venny. You're already on the best wagon there ever was wagoned. We can get rachie tomorrow.

That was referring to Xenoblade

Venmar · Post Post #1117 (isolation #64) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:01 pm

Those last few BnB posts were by Mollie right?

Do I get a cookie?!?

Venmar · Post Post #1121 (isolation #65) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:11 pm

Dunnnnnn tell me what to do... i'm sleeeephy as fuck atm

My scumreads are mastin and ftl, maybe nick.

Andrius should be lynched sometime not today, maybe tomorrow. I think Mastin should go first.

Venmar · Post Post #1380 (isolation #66) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:16 pm

We should be lynching Mastin

Venmar · Post Post #1383 (isolation #67) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:23 pm

^ bad vote right now
^ also probably town

vote mastin

( rach i never wanted to lynch you in this game, just didn't think you were all that town until recently )

Venmar · Post Post #1509 (isolation #68) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:13 am

I catch Rach scum in Xenoblade and now when I think she's town in this game you guys think my skills on reading her are shit? LOL YOU GUYS FUNNY.

I've been playing a lot of video games lately... MS seemed to drop from my priority list for a day or two. I'll read up one second.

Venmar · Post Post #1511 (isolation #69) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:15 am

In post 1397, Desperado wrote:Are you high? What could Rach have possibly done
"recently" to make her "never lynching you" level town?

- Bolded is a misrep, i didn't say she was that strong of a town.
- Reads list is in in line with her town meta, plus i got good feelings from it even if you guys think the reads themselves sucked.

Gonna do these kind of posts as I read up, respond to what i want.

Venmar · Post Post #1512 (isolation #70) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:17 am

In post 1402, Desperado wrote:
In post 1401, RachMarie wrote:Look again I have Andy as leaning scum

Seriously Des what will you do
if
I flip town? Who will you look at then?

I admitted my reads suck, but it is early. A lot of the pages here really are more noise than signal which means it takes a while to sort out the wheat from the chaff duh.

I rely a lot on Meta especially if I have not played a bunch of games with someone, which is why I was asking for links so I can skim through and see if I can get a better handle on some of the other players.
@bolded slipslipslipslip

Straaaaaaaaawman

Venmar · Post Post #1513 (isolation #71) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:19 am

The amount of expectation you guys have for Rach in this game is retarded, HOW are you guys using this to justify your scumreads, its pathetic.

Venmar · Post Post #1516 (isolation #72) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:20 am

In post 1417, Malakittens wrote:gotta love how everyone is ignoring our conf town.

Seriously

you guys are the best.

cuddle with the IC much?

Venmar · Post Post #1519 (isolation #73) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:21 am

In post 1514, Aj The Epic wrote:P-edit: Could say the same about the amount of information on your Mastin push. Justification that way is probably much worse.

- You kind of admitted your Rach wagon is shit right there but ok

Venmar · Post Post #1520 (isolation #74) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:23 am

Thezmons #1430 is probably a nice example of why we should not be lynching Rachmaria

Venmar · Post Post #1521 (isolation #75) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:24 am

In post 1434, Nachomamma8 wrote: his opening is obviously different from Xenoblade and MyLo.
i'm not even more than normally confident Andy is town (haven't put my time in yet), but the cases I've skimmed so
far aren't looking for the right things.
The insult thing is a great aspect of his meta but you might be misinterpreting some of his insults.

Are you scum with Andy or something

Venmar · Post Post #1522 (isolation #76) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:25 am

^ did make me cringe about Nacho

but so far Nacho looks pretty town IMO

Venmar · Post Post #1524 (isolation #77) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:27 am

In post 1462, Mac wrote:UNVOTE:

VOTE: Andy

I can see where people are coming from wrt to the differences between Andy here and xeno and I think we need to hear more from him in that aspect.

and also nacho why aren't you doing anything substantial?

you might be scum

Venmar · Post Post #1527 (isolation #78) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:29 am

people saying NS should not be vigged get a no shit sticker

Venmar · Post Post #1529 (isolation #79) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:35 am

In post 1526, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 649, Venmar wrote:@Trust Fund - Mastin scumread is mainly gut, but I don't think this is his town meta. He tries really hard as scum to appeal to others, which is basically all of what his 2 posts are, him complaining and trying really hard to look town. Both of his posts have like 0 content in them and don't hold much fruit, they're just him complaining/AtEing and not doing any kind of substantial scumhunting or being productive, which is what he said he would be in his 1st post (#240), but 228 posts later he comes with with his 2nd post (#448) with him just complaining and slapping on random reads.

Not to mention Mastin-town is way more productive and active, and generally is an active scumhunter. As scum he tends to be more appealing and passive, and tends to choose weird and obscure ( or unpopular ) votes in general.

I think i'll have to develop this read a bit further... it's still mostly gut despite of what I just said above. I'll make a vote somewhat shortly.
This is the only semblance of a case on Mastin I found in a quick one-over of your iso. Rach has a case, has tells, associations, and support. Mastin's 'slip' wagon was awful, dispersed as such, and I already expressed why that slip wasn't even nullscum or anything of that sort. So, yes, I do have grounds to say your case is any the bit more pathetic than the Rach case.

- I caught Rach as scum in Xenoblade MAINLY with meta tells. I THINK I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT.

Mastin is still scum and this bullshit rach wagon has only given him reason to stop posting again.

@Nacho - Not voting skull cause it's basically a lurker lynch, we're gonna get fuck all from his flip in either case

Venmar · Post Post #1531 (isolation #80) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:36 am

Also LOL at people who are calling me scum because I read their scumreads as town.

MAYBE YOUR READS SUCK HMMMMMMMMMMM

Venmar · Post Post #1534 (isolation #81) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:38 am

Hold on let me ISO that 3 post skull ISO.

k done.

Yeah thats a lurker lynch. Nacho you high stop that

Venmar · Post Post #1536 (isolation #82) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:39 am

In post 1532, Nachomamma8 wrote:Please tell me you didn't just utter those words to me. You are a player who has moved so far past information lynches it isn't even funny.

got a problem? compromise on mastin.

do not worry, i got this shit on lockdown during the night, we'll catch scum

Venmar · Post Post #1546 (isolation #83) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:54 am

like mwah

Venmar · Post Post #1553 (isolation #84) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:09 am

In post 1549, Faster Than Light wrote:Hey guys, Varsoon here. Letting you know that I am factually-actually working on the biggest, dumbest reads list I've probably ever done. The problem I've hit already is that I was originally composing it in MafiaScum and when I clicked to preview it at one point, the site had an SQL error or something and I lost a lot of my progress. I'm currently nine pages deep in it again (that's nine pages in MSWord, ugh) and about a fourth done. I'm going to run it by Metal Sonic later tonight/tomorrow morning, then likely have it posted for Saturday.

You guys aren't ready, so prepare your butts.

-V

Hope you realize i wont read it if it's a wall

Venmar · Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:35 am

Everyone reading me as scum is pretty dumb tbh. It really is funny though, it seems to boil down to the fact I read Rach and Mala as town, and Andrius a bit too. WOW NICE REAAAAAAADS GUYS. jk they suck that's opportunistic as fuck thinking. THINK THIS THROUGH, DO YOU THINK I WOULD BUDDY 3 OF MY SCUMBUDDIES

Venmar · Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:45 am

In post 1587, mastin2 wrote: But it's more than that. The PGO claim makes him virtually immune to actions, lest a town player risk being killed. I don't think it fits into the setup now that I think about it, and the whole claim reeks of being faked. But beyond that, there's his interactions.

- Go complain to Bork for giving me the role. Besides, even if I was faking it, it's no alignment indicative, think of it as me pulling a Mattp.

In post 1587, mastin2 wrote: His stubborn insistence that I am scum goes beyond reason. This is particularly true with scum lacking daychat (a fact I am rather certain of), since his scumbuddies aren't capable of saying, "Venmar, STOP! YOU'RE GOING TO AWAKEN THE BEAST! MASTIN IS TOO DAMN GOOD A PLAYER TO TRY AND MISLYNCH!"

- Tunneling is not a scumtell, SORRY BUD NOT HAPPENING.
- The whole daychat thing is PATHETIC and seriously pulling at straws.

In post 1587, mastin2 wrote: The only way they can do so is via the thread. (You'll be seeing a bit of that later.) He's defending Rach, he's calling Nacho town, he chainsaw defended Andrius (via calling Mac scum) while simultaneously leaving open the option of a double-bus (1521), his read on nick has been weak-distancing, and has Malakittens as town.

- More daychat stuff? Dude get out of here.
- You interpreting me as chainsaw defending Andrius for calling Mac scum is also SERIOUSLY pulling at straws cause i called Mac scum for his abysmal reasoning, bad and opportunistic jump onto the wagon, and scummy sheeping. I would've done the same if he voted Rach.
- OH IM SCUM FOR CALLING PEOPLE TOWN? GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD JOB JK THAT REASONING SUUUUUUUUCKS. Come back to me when the people I call town flip scum, THEN TRY TO PULL SOMETHING

Venmar · Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:47 am

In post 1589, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1587, mastin2 wrote:Nachomamma8 is scum.
:'(
i thought you of all people would see the true me

- Venny gets no love for correcly townreading Nacho I guess

Nacho, lets make a deal. You help me lynch one of my scumreads, and i'll take a nice looooooooooooooong look at Skull and interactions around his slot during the night.

Venmar · Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:52 am

In post 1572, thezmon221 wrote:
In post 1520, Venmar wrote:Thezmons #1430 is probably a nice example of why we should not be lynching Rachmaria
Hey. You're probably one of those players who resists just for pride reasons, aren't you? 1490sums up the whole argument if you're gonna be like Mala and said, "buh buh but you're voting her cuz she's useless." Fact of the matter is, it's far, far deeper than that, and the uselessness is centered on total scum motivation. Go ahead and read some more after 1490 of Aj's posts on association and such, and then read a few of Muffin. All signs point to Rach scum.

I hated your Rach reasons cause you tried to make every one of her posts looks scummy no matter what. When you try to make every single little thing about a person scummy, then you're just trying to fit the person to the read ( lol hey majiffy you taught me this one right? ). You're trying too hard, you're also probably barking up the wrong tree mister.

Venmar · Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:54 am

Btw, me calling Thezmon and AJ dumb or saying they should not lynch Rach, does not mean i'm scumreading them, I just think they're going in the opposite direction.

Venmar · Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:55 am

[quote="In post 1643, BeautyAndTheBeast"so who are your scumreads, mac and mastin who else[/quote]
- Probably Mastin, FTL, Nick, Mac, in no particular order.

I'm still keeping my eye on TD however...

Venmar · Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:56 am

pro formatting #2013

Venmar · Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:57 am

pirate mollie

Venmar · Fri Aug 16, 2013 12:00 pm

You can go ahead and tell me what IIoA stands for/is, but i'm not going to argue with you on this.

Venmar · Post Post #1721 (isolation #94) » Sat Aug 17, 2013 4:48 am

I liked FTL's ( Varsoons ) explanation of what they think of me, he did seem to nail how I feel in pretty much a lot of my games.

I looked at the post in general, i didn't read the post by post but I read most of the "WHY" explanations, and while I disagree with his read on Mastin, TD, and Trust Fund in particular, and while the Bork section was really dumb and really off to me, I think the post in general has more town motivation than scum motivation... so i'm going to drop FTL from my scumreads for the time being.

Venmar · Post Post #1779 (isolation #95) » Sat Aug 17, 2013 7:07 pm

ITT Andy thinks saying the word drunk multiple times makes him look cool and popular

JK <3 you Andy

Venmar · Post Post #1805 (isolation #96) » Sun Aug 18, 2013 8:58 am

I've been reading Andrius as town for the better part of this game since his outrage looked genuine, and his wall was legitimately funny, which some of you might know Bacde thinks is a big town tell, lol, not that I use it. Andrius is just really fun and awesome to keep around, and the only thing that is affecting my read on him is the meta argument, and I might end up supporting it since I used meta arguments to catch Rach in Xenoblade...

Unvote: Mastin2

The thing with Mastin is that i'm seeing half of his play as part of his scum meta, and the other as part of his town meta. The big posts, even though I think they're not that good, look like his town self, and his general posting looks align with his town mentality. What bugs me is that Mastin enjoys weird and obscure votes on non-momentum wagons / players as scum, and Mastins attitude in his first few posts also look really scummy, not to mention Mastins spur of activity was inspired by the wagon that grew on him which makes him look beetlejuicy. The fact he has receeded back I think means his posting was just response to pressure and wasn't town motivated...

Mastin is a slot I will need to keep thinking about, maybe a night overread can help when I have the motivation to do so.

My interest in TD is being re-ignited due to him being quiet, which is kind of how he acted in Xenoblade, or at least that's how I remember him from my short stay in that game.

In post 1802, zMuffinMan wrote:
sos wrote:*shameless prod dodge while
I wait very, very patiently for RM to post so I can call her scum again*

- Dude are you even being serious with me now. It's posts like these that make me more confident in Rach-town.

Venmar · Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:36 am

In post 1809, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:so are you scum reading muffin then?

- No it just proves that Rach is a stupid wagon fuelled by derp like that.

Venmar · Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:46 am

He doesn't need my meta base, he just needs to realize him ( and Thezmon ) trying to make all of Rach's post scummy no matter what is really dumb.

Venmar · Sun Aug 18, 2013 10:52 am

I... said its dumb....before...OKAY THEN

I got Skull as null cause he was a lurker. I don't understand the case on him if it exists

Venmar · Sun Aug 18, 2013 11:15 am

Omg don't do that nervous shit again, you have NO reason to suspect me right now like seriously

Venmar · Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:21 am

Rach is town, sorry we're not gonna lynch her.

Vote: TiphaineDeath

Venmar · Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:31 am

It's not random, TD is scum.

I might vote Andrius if it comes down to it, but would prefer TD of course.

Venmar · Mon Aug 19, 2013 5:17 am

Yeah his absence, which is in line with his scum meta i think

Venmar · Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:06 am

In post 1926, Nachomamma8 wrote: Why are you avoiding the Mutley wagon?

- Why are you assuming total bullshit

Venmar · Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:10 am

In post 1926, Nachomamma8 wrote:even you acknowledge that this is weak as fuck
how do you expect people to believe in your reads if you have no CONVICTION?

- No I didn't.
- I expect you to stop buttfucking Skulls slot and consider it. Or is that too much to ask.

Venmar · Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:25 am

Nacho I think by now you should realize when that when I make votes I usually don't consider anyone else in the game since i'm quite self-centred. Hence, me never thinking about the slot until you prod me about it.

I don't think my reasoning is weak btw, i'm just kind of lazy atm to expand on it.

Venmar · Tue Aug 20, 2013 5:36 am

I'm saying that I personally don't think it's weak, which is what you tried to say before right?

Venmar · Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:16 am

In post 1962, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1960, Venmar wrote:I'm saying that I personally don't think it's weak, which is what you tried to say before right?
I'm saying you know that reasoning you have given thus far is weak. Isn't it?

IM NOT SAYING ITS FUCKING WEAK FFS DUDE

Venmar · Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:19 am

In post 1961, Nachomamma8 wrote:and you say you want me to consider it but you know I've considered most wagons by now. you know it always takes a little effort to convince me and what you posted wasn't going to in any world. but instead of going
"trust me, i have good shit"
like you usually do when you're being a lazy fuck, you attack me for tunneling mutters (when I'm not even doing that?) and tell me I should at least consider it. Why?

Except that's kind of what I indirectly meant when I told you to stop going for mutley, which was still when you told me I was avoiding his wagon which in-itself was a really infuriating statement in my eyes.

Nacho. I am telling you that I don't think my reasoning is weak, I am telling you to consider it, WHAT PART OF THAT, is not the bolded part?

Venmar · Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:10 am

Ok I would go into massive detail on my TD scumread, but all I can tell you is that his reaction to my claim is still a massive scumtell for me. I'll agree that SOME of his posting was kind of towny and I backed off of him for it but I realize now i shouldn't have since he IS my strongest scumread in the game at the moment. I don't like his reaction to my claim since it reeked of scum appearing to not be fooled, i don't like how his one liner and lurkish posts kind of mirror his scumgame from Xenoblade, and I definitely don't like how he loses most of his motivation to stay active and contribute after the pressure on him disappears. TD simply has a lot of scum motivation behind almost all of his moves, and I think he decided to just fly under the radar after the pressure earlier from the day dropped, which is NOT a townie response.

Nacho, for you, here's a list of why I think TD is scum, in not particular order.
1. Gut Gut Gut GUT GUT GUT
2. Really bad and scummy reaction to my claim.
3. Scum motivated actions and posts.
4. Similar play here that is similar to his scummeta.

Now everyone sheep me cause this will earn you 72 Virgin Vennys in your afterlife

Venmar · Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:31 am

I'll probably last minute vote Andrius, but you guys are missing out on a sweet deal on this TD wagon.

Venmar · Sat Aug 24, 2013 2:24 pm

Not enough TD votes guys.

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:02 am

ok well i took a look into TD over the night and I guess i'm just going to drop my scumread on him all together...

i got a new pc desktop computer last week and since it runs everything i want on perfect settings and frames... well MS just kind of dropped off of my priorities list and i have become 100x more lazy sitewide unfortunately. i'll get around to reading a bit into this game later, a bit surprised rach flipped scum though, guess she was scum just pushed with bad execution :/

good news is nobody is going to dare trying to kill me over the night lulz, cause i'm such a team player right now right guys?

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:55 am

yeah, sure

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:58 am

In post 2753, Nachomamma8 wrote:i don't like how you blame you not figuring out rach was scum due to the push

not blaming, im stating smartass

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:34 am

the push on her made her look town because of the way some of the people were pushing it, honestly i think it was just luck she flipped scum.

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:13 am

In post 2760, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2757, Venmar wrote:the push on her made her look town because of the way some of the people were pushing it,
really? that's not what you were saying yesterday!

I WILL ANNIHILATE YOU.

I seriously think Town-Nacho would not be this retarded with me.

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:15 am

In post 2779, mastin2 wrote:And, seriously, guys. Trust me.

Venmar is a mislynch.

Take it from the guy who was pushing him as a scum candidate yesterday, but who has revised his opinion since then.
Venmar will not flip scum. He is 100% guaranteed town.
I will defend him to the death, got it?

<3 <3 <3

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:18 am

In post 2753, Nachomamma8 wrote:
as opposed to your own faulty reads

- This is not something I would expect town-nacho to say. Seriously, he and I both know my reads are NOT faulty, they're just either lazy ( my rach read was not ) or influenced by outside sources. Rach was a lynch that I read as town not because of HER actions, but because of the actions OTHERS have done to actually lynch her.

Nacho knows I have good reads, especially my townreads, and I think he would also realize that my Rach townread was more game influenced than my usual gut/self influenced.

Therefore, my Nacho townread is probably gone.

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:19 am

In post 2873, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2870, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2868, Venmar wrote:
In post 2760, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2757, Venmar wrote:the push on her made her look town because of the way some of the people were pushing it,
really? that's not what you were saying yesterday!
I WILL ANNIHILATE YOU.

I seriously think Town-Nacho would not be this retarded with me.
is that a scumread I smell?
also we're lynching nick so if you could, ya know, look sort of town by the time tomorrow
comes around you *probably* won't be lynched.

Look at Nacho squirming and backpedaling at the sight of me becoming less lazy and actually doing something. I'm not such an opportunistic lynch anymore eh?

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:21 am

Meant to say this, Rach scum probably means Andrius town. Not guaranteed, but very likely.

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:21 am

In post 2876, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 2874, Venmar wrote:Rach was a lynch that I read as town not because of HER actions, but because of the actions OTHERS have done to actually lynch her.
Again, that's not what you were emphasizing yesterday. So either you have a serious problem in taking responsibility for your own mistakes, or you are scum.

Gimme a second to ISO myself.....

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:31 am

In post 1520, Venmar wrote:Thezmons #1430 is probably a nice example of why we should not be lynching Rachmaria

In post 1644, Venmar wrote:
In post 1572, thezmon221 wrote:
In post 1520, Venmar wrote:Thezmons #1430 is probably a nice example of why we should not be lynching Rachmaria
Hey. You're probably one of those players who resists just for pride reasons, aren't you? 1490sums up the whole argument if you're gonna be like Mala and said, "buh buh but you're voting her cuz she's useless." Fact of the matter is, it's far, far deeper than that, and the uselessness is centered on total scum motivation. Go ahead and read some more after 1490 of Aj's posts on association and such, and then read a few of Muffin. All signs point to Rach scum.
I hated your Rach reasons cause you tried to make every one of her posts looks scummy no matter what. When you try to make every single little thing about a person scummy, then you're just trying to fit the person to the read ( lol hey majiffy you taught me this one right? ). You're trying too hard, you're also probably barking up the wrong tree mister.

In post 1805, Venmar wrote:
In post 1802, zMuffinMan wrote:
sos wrote:*shameless prod dodge while
I wait very, very patiently for RM to post so I can call her scum again*
- Dude are you even being serious with me now. It's posts like these that make me more confident in Rach-town.

In post 1813, Venmar wrote:
In post 1809, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:so are you scum reading muffin then?
- No it just proves that Rach is a stupid wagon fuelled by derp like that.

In post 1815, Venmar wrote:He doesn't need my meta base, he just needs to realize him ( and Thezmon ) trying to make all of Rach's post scummy no matter what is really dumb.

----

So umm... THESE ARE ALL ME FUCKING READING RACH AS TOWN DUE TO THE SHIT THESE DUDES WERE SAYING.

How about YOU GET YOUR SHIT STRAIGHT SMARTASSES

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:33 am

In post 2880, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 2877, Venmar wrote:Meant to say this, Rach scum probably means Andrius town. Not guaranteed, but very likely.
I know I saw those no shit stickers laying around here somewhere...

I was townreading Andrius for the most part already but ok....

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:35 am

im about to rage quit out of this game

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:36 am

vote:nacho

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:37 am

no fuck u

u know im mad when i stop using grammar like usual

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:38 am

and i was talking to nacho

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:42 am

vote:nick

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:42 am

unvote:nick

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:42 am

thats all you get

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:43 am

oh right

vote;nacho

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:50 am

y isnt ns dead

is it cause he's bad

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 12:00 pm

his pipe is leaking

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:11 pm

you guys make me happy with these votes

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:23 pm

no me

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:26 pm

his case being shitty on me is a bit of an understatement

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:27 pm

mollie dont forget his backpedal on me

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:31 pm

aTed? whats that

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:44 pm

In post 2941, Venmar wrote:aTed? whats that

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:44 pm

i didnt do that though

Venmar · Thu Aug 29, 2013 3:22 pm

In post 2956, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:eta: you did

wasnt my intention if i did, but i dont think i did

majiffy vote nacho with mollie like she wanted

Venmar · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:38 pm

In post 3053, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Mala, Venmar, AJ, Mastin.

Mollie's reads may vary.

Wow you're pretty bad at this game aren't you.

How the fuck isn't Nick on that list btw.

Venmar · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:38 pm

Nvm just read why he isn't on it.

Initial comment still stands.

Venmar · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:42 pm

Ah it seems this game has a hard on for Venny this game upon a quick skim.

Muffin is pretty town btw cause his reasoning for me being town are solid as fuck, and this isn't even coming from me being cuddly or biased, he actually read the game unlike you smartasses

Venmar · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:52 pm

In post 3013, BROseidon wrote:You instead tried to coast by on "I can read Rach well she's town trust me guys."

- Ok I can tell right here that you have either never played with me before or have no idea who you're talking to.

--

Also HOW THE FUCK is this thing not dead yet?

Vote: Mac

Venmar · Fri Aug 30, 2013 5:58 pm

Mastin is actually town, much much more confident this is his townself

Sooooooooooooooooo

TD is conftown, Mastin and Andrius are both probably town, BnB is a derp but also probably town, Muffin is very town, Aj is prooooooooooooooooooobably town idk, and malakittens is a semi town read.

Venmar · Fri Aug 30, 2013 6:05 pm

cause i said so that's why

Venmar · Sat Aug 31, 2013 6:32 am

gonna note the lack of BRO's response to me

Venmar · Sat Aug 31, 2013 7:03 am

becauaw I play this way

Venmar · Sun Sep 01, 2013 9:00 pm

Mac and Nacho are flying this under the radar and are probably enjoying the fact Majiffy is a loud player

I am one to tunnel but Majiffy has seemed to taken it a bit too far, skeptical on his judgment on Nick's slot, definitely wont be sheeping him, only my own judgment. The matter of the fact is, I don't think Nick is scummy enough to warrant my vote over Mac or Nacho, plain and simple.

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:02 am

In post 3140, Mac wrote:
In post 3138, Venmar wrote:Mac and Nacho are flying this under the radar and are probably enjoying the fact Majiffy is a loud player

I am one to tunnel but Majiffy has seemed to taken it a bit too far, skeptical on his judgment on Nick's slot, definitely wont be sheeping him, only my own judgment. The matter of the fact is, I don't think Nick is scummy enough to warrant my vote over Mac or Nacho, plain and simple.
bla bla bla. i'm not flying under any radar, i've made my case on why mala is scum. if majiffy wants to throw his rattles around until people vote nick, that's fine by me. i'll only move my vote when necessary, or I'm absolutely convinced on nickscum.

EXCEPT YOUR NOT PUSHING MALA ARE YOU, HOW CAN YOU TELL ME YOU'RE NOT GOING UNDER THE RADAR

I could make a facebook status saying "Oh fuck Kony he should die" and claim i did something, but that's just words, you gotta actually suit up get off your bum bum and go to Africa with an assault rifle and a chocolate bar.

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:58 am

Lol i push my scumreads, whatever the quality of my pushing is, be it cases or me being lazy. You can't recall any of it cause you're too busy flying under the radar, you can't even deny what I have said, how can you try to change the subject and expect to get away with it. You on the other hand haven't actually done ANYTHING whatsoever, therefore your argument is invalid flailing scum.

Mac is playing to his scummeta btw

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:05 am

Bro

maybe nick

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:33 am

In post 3167, nickthename wrote: This guy knows what's up.
Oh wait, it's venmar.
O well, I still agree with him here, still think he might be scum.

You're obviously sexist

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:33 pm

^ That's Majiffy with his Nick wagon.

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:44 pm

In post 3157, Mac wrote:
In post 3154, Venmar wrote:Lol i push my scumreads, whatever the quality of my pushing is, be it cases or me being lazy. You can't recall any of it cause you're too busy flying under the radar, you can't even deny what I have said, how can you try to change the subject and expect to get away with it. You on the other hand haven't actually done ANYTHING whatsoever, therefore your argument is invalid flailing scum.

Mac is playing to his scummeta btw
what? i've made a case for why mala is scum and asked people to vote with me but everyone's just like "LOL JIFFYSHEEP" and there's not much i can work with there. hahahaha @ calling me flailing, i'm not even close to flailing.

YOU ARE NOT DOING WHAT I HAVE ACCUSED YOU OF NOT DOING.

The fact you keep either dodging that fact, or just don't want to admit it, is scummy. You're trying to twist the fact that you're not pushing your scumreads into the fact you made an unconvincing case and then made no effort to push it to actually catch people's attention. There's a difference between the two you know that? This is actually a substantial scumtell IMO.

EVERYONE HEED ME, HEED VENMAR AND STOP BLIND READING ME AS SCUM DUMBWITS

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:50 pm

Describe "currently happening", be more specific

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:51 pm

Majiffy y u no think i am town

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 4:54 pm

Nick wagon isn't actually bad, really, it's just really meh because from my POV it's just not on my priority list and all Majiffy is doing is stuffing it down people's throats which I don't like.

I still have a gut town read on Mala.

And I still think Muffin is town.

Venmar · Mon Sep 02, 2013 5:11 pm

In post 3276, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 3269, Venmar wrote:Majiffy y u no think i am town
cos you aren't.

you are hitting all of the wrong notes and you just....aren't.

PM

Hey PM

NOBODY ASKED YOU

Venmar · Tue Sep 03, 2013 4:32 am

why dont you guys vote mac for a scum lynch ffs

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:44 pm

Andy knows where my time has been invested

Also school started today, so ummmmmmm

Anyways, Mac should still hang

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:47 pm

In post 3448, Andrius wrote:AM I GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY A GAME WITH
OR ARE YOU TOO HIGH ELO FOR ME ;_;

sorry dont think you can handle my bronze 3 elo

also no i just got off league cause i was really mad

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 2:48 pm

sorry andy bbg <3 <3 <3 <3

next time i log on ok? i promise

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:37 pm

Bro's case on me is BS and fabricated in every way possible. He's probably being obtuse on purpose since anyone with a brain could read my interaction with RM as town.

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:39 pm

In post 3462, BROseidon wrote:Why is scum-PGO not possible? I'm saying I think he's scum, so I think either his claim is fake
or he's a scum PGO.

You're officially retarded for trying to justify this as being possible

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:41 pm

BRO is uber scum for those posts...

Mac or BRO... WHICH SHOULD I TAKE?!?! *cue rebecca black*

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:42 pm

Ninjad by Nacho and Ghostlin

Sorry guys, it seems Mastin and Muffin are the only ones who can read me. Therefore i'm not sure if i care if you guys think im scum

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:44 pm

In post 3471, BROseidon wrote:
In post 3470, Venmar wrote:BRO is uber scum for those posts...

Mac or BRO... WHICH SHOULD I TAKE?!?! *cue rebecca black*
But not Nacho for thinking the same way I am?

Wat?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL YOU THINK YOU'RE CLEVER DON'T YOU?

STOP FUCKING PRETENDING LIKE YOU ARE READING THIS FUCKING GAME BECAUSE NACHO IS ONE OF MY FUCKING LARGE SCUMREADS DIPSHIT

NOT TO MENTION YOU'RE JUST SHOVING SHIT IN MY MOUTH

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:44 pm

In post 3474, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 3472, BROseidon wrote:Or Ghost.
Oh, I'm agreeing that the whole 'my meta with RM means I'm town' is a bridge too far. I do think you're a bit cracked for justifying scum PGO over him being a shitty liar.

Cracked?

Lol ok get out

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:46 pm

In post 3477, zMuffinMan wrote:mala
might
be scum (i currently don't think she is), but i'm almost certain venmar is town.
i do, however, think that there is scum pushing the idea that these two are scum.

NO

FUCKING

SHIT

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:46 pm

In post 3474, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 3472, BROseidon wrote:Or Ghost.
Oh, I'm agreeing that the whole 'my meta with RM means I'm town' is a bridge too far. I do think you're a bit cracked for justifying scum PGO over him being a shitty liar.

YOU ARE MISREPPING ME OMFG IM DONE WITH THIS FUCKING GAME

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:46 pm

In post 3474, Ghostlin wrote:
In post 3472, BROseidon wrote:Or Ghost.
Oh, I'm agreeing that the whole 'my meta with RM means I'm town' is a bridge too far. I do think you're a bit cracked for justifying scum PGO over him being a shitty liar.

YOU ARE MISREPPING ME OMFG IM DONE WITH THIS FUCKING GAME

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:51 pm

@BRO - Cause putting me in a corner saying "you're scum whether you're town or not" and dealing with me in an absolute IS SO FUCKING TOWN AM I RIGHT?!?!

If you said yes, please proceed to off yourself.

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:54 pm

In post 3484, Ghostlin wrote:because he's being a trolly cocky asshole who's play I can't place as generally. Either way, he's not the fucking play today, so why are we even discussing him like he is and that there's a big 'Venmar is scum' conspiracy with zero support and zero votes.

- I did just realize i'm being a bit of an asshole, and i apologize since i get carried away and become Majiffy when i get mad or pissed, i am usually a fun-abbrasive minus the asshole.

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:56 pm

I'm not throwing shit around cause i'm trying to save myself, i'm doing it cause if i'm not shouting everyone ignores me ALL THE TIME, i'm trying to point out the fact that BRO is scummy as fuck, you overlooking that and interpreting me as defending myself proves my point that i have to raise my voice.

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:58 pm

^ Omg

Read the thread please, even i'm doing that at the moment which is a once in a lifetime thing.

All you need to know is his approach to his scumread on me IS SCUMMY AS FUCK

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:58 pm

^ That was for Ghostin, the ^

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:00 pm

In post 3492, BROseidon wrote:
In post 3486, Venmar wrote:@BRO - Cause putting me in a corner saying "you're scum whether you're town or not" and dealing with me in an absolute IS SO FUCKING TOWN AM I RIGHT?!?!

If you said yes, please proceed to off yourself.
Either take up a position that doesn't indicate a scum interest or do things in a way that doesn't indicate scum interests.

You've failed at both of these things for reasons that I've already stated, and you've done nothing to change this.

pedit brb quoting posts I've already posted.

- I'm actually doing nothing but revealing your scummy shit right now, so idk where you're getting this shit from.

Guys, add the fact that BRO's reads are general and vague to the max, ty.

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:01 pm

Fuck this.

Vote: BRO

This town isn't getting my vote anywhere outside of Mac and BRO at this point.

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:05 pm

In post 3078, BROseidon wrote:If you're not going to try to convince me to change my mind, why is my mind going to change?

- AKA "I know you're town cause im scum, and I want you to give me a chance to give me a reason to read you town un-conspiculously"

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:05 pm

In post 3501, Trust Fund wrote:Man, thinking there might be a scum PGO. That's almost as bad as thinking there'd be a scum vig in a game with no third party factions confirmed by the mod before the start of the game.

Vote BRO

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:07 pm

LOL LOOK AT BRO BACKPEDALING ON CALLING ME A SCUM PGO CAUSE NO ONE AGREES WITH HIM

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:08 pm

In post 3504, BROseidon wrote:Or I'm town trying to ask you to convince me that you're town because I'm scumreading you.

- Except you publicly stating that fact is not a town mentality so yeah bummer for you

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:09 pm

In post 3504, BROseidon wrote:
In post 1521, Venmar wrote:
In post 1434, Nachomamma8 wrote: his opening is obviously different from Xenoblade and MyLo.
i'm not even more than normally confident Andy is town (haven't put my time in yet), but the cases I've skimmed so
far aren't looking for the right things.
The insult thing is a great aspect of his meta but you might be misinterpreting some of his insults.
Are you scum with Andy or something
Pushed Andy/Nacho scumteam.

Oh yeah what a push, mhmhmmm

Venmar · Wed Sep 04, 2013 6:12 pm

I stand by #1644 , honestly still don't regret not voting Rach.

I'm going to go to sleep, but if I wake up to 0 new BRO votes, I will probably just afk until end of day phase

Venmar · Thu Sep 05, 2013 3:12 am

yeah im afk

Venmar · Thu Sep 05, 2013 5:26 pm

im really offended that you people just called me a VI

muffin is defending me but is kind of ignoring interaction with me a bit, i want people to take BRO seriously and instead of just talking to him and proving him wrong left and right at least add on a vote to that shit cause im just tired of this now

Venmar · Sun Sep 08, 2013 4:17 am

im afk until end of day like i said since you people are being fuckheads, and calling me a VI won't make me want to cooperate even though i've been trying to help this whole time

Venmar · Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:23 pm

im really busy

but i had nice and loooooooooooooooooooooooong look at mac and i have decided the dude is town

vote: broseidon

Venmar · Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:24 pm

fucking nick wagon sucked ass too... perhaps its time to sheep me instead

Venmar · Thu Sep 12, 2013 2:44 pm

so little time to post

just going drop this here: TD and Mac are confirmed town atm

Venmar · Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:35 pm

Sorry I'm out of town right now, I'm in Seattle and u will only be back home Monday.

I'm V/LA until then since I don't have access to an actual computer or have a stable/reliable wifi connection.

Venmar · Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:15 am

im interested but wont join if the hydra amount is big