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Nick:
Do you disagree with the wiki's play advice here?
P-edit: 'sup jiffy. You gonna yell at me this game too? +1 to your post about gambler's fallacy; 'das stupid.The ideal play for a PGO is to get targeted by the Mafia, while not being targeted by any Town power roles. However, safer play is to claim directly -- this keeps other Town power roles safe, but also ensures the Mafia will not target you. Note that by claiming, you are opening yourself up to potentially being policy lynched at some point during the game.
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Apparently so?In post 168, Mac wrote:In post 166, TiphaineDeath wrote:Neither of those are questions, and you are stupid to think so. Putting a question mark on the end of something doesn't make it a question.
Fail slip dodge is fail. VOTE: Mac. Hey guys, I found an overeager scum, want to help me lynch it?
is this really fucking happening?
Sorry Colin, I'm voting anyways.
VOTE: TD
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Please stop being useless.In post 172, notscience wrote:Hi Cabd
See the above.TiphaineDeath wrote:At least I shall die as I have lived, completely surrounded by the completely clueless.
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So both Mac and FTL are beating up on poor wittle TD?In post 180, TiphaineDeath wrote:I have found two scum, I am not useless, vote one of them and I'll stop raging.- Trust Fund
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Oh hey you posted what do you know.In post 174, Sound of Silence wrote:
I agree about Varsoon and also have some unhappy thoughts about MS's posts so far, too. I'm not sure if GiF will concur when he catches up.In post 145, Trust Fund wrote:Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.
Not that I disagree with the TD wagon, mind you.
Let's talk this one out, ffery. ...Like we always do.- Trust Fund
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In post 187, TiphaineDeath wrote:Call me that again and I swear to god the rage you have seen so far shall be nothing like the firey brimstone that I shall deliver upon you.- Trust Fund
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EBWOPIn post 199, Trust Fund wrote:I'm aware, but you could have gathered a wagon, effectively giving us day one wagon analysis without anyone being dead. Instead you did it this early, so the info we'd have gained from your role is GONE.
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Yes rach there is a case, now please have your godmother call for a PL on you again~In post 211, RachMarie wrote:Could everyone please tone it down a bit it is a game not a war jeez.
I gather from that that Notty is basically an Innocent Child mod verified?
Whats with all the claiming anyways I think like half the people in the game practically have not even posted or not posted much...
Besides his reaction to Venmar's claim is there even a case on TD? Something other than oh he was scum last time please.
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In post 219, RachMarie wrote:I presume this is the cabd head of trust fund?
Could you explain your case on him, besides the whole thing with Venmar?
Cause though I can see how that would look scummy, the fact we have a wagon build up this fast this early before everyone has even posted kinda sets up my scumdar a tad.
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I am Sasha and I approve this vote.
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Depends on the approach we're going to take. You thinking townbloc style, or just reads list bouncing? I mean syr is probably gonna come in later and start trolling, but i'll be srs bsns for now. Hmm.... How about AJ? I mean xenoblade was before I developed my supermetawhore self, so I never really ran it. Besides xenoblae, whatcha got?In post 266, Sound of Silence wrote:TrustFund your turn to call one.- Trust Fund
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Sup.In post 275, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Cabd, what was going through your mind when you voted TD in 171? Why were you thinking he was scum? Why didn't you elaborate when you voted him? Tell me about the conversation you were having with Syryana that you felt the need to apologize for placing the vote. Did Syryana read TD as town?
Anyways, you see TD under pressure, and then he lashes out at Mac in a bout of OMGUS. Same reason I read reckoner as scum in red wedding (ask mollie) things that are "too scummy to be scum" don't really make me feel great about a player/slot.
Haven't talked to syr since like.... page 3. He's offline, the jerk. I usually prefer to vote when my other head agreed with me, but sometimes I prefer to run solo.- Trust Fund
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I mean, it could be town lashout, but I don't feel it's as likely to be town-lash as scum-lash; and either way, heaping on pressure means more emotions, which means an easier read.In post 287, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
Had you considered his emotional outburst from a town perspective? If so, why does it not fit? If not, why not?In post 284, Trust Fund wrote: Anyways, you see TD under pressure, and then he lashes out at Mac in a bout of OMGUS. Same reason I read reckoner as scum in red wedding (ask mollie) things that are "too scummy to be scum" don't really make me feel great about a player/slot.
Haven't talked to syr since like.... page 3. He's offline, the jerk. I usually prefer to vote when my other head agreed with me, but sometimes I prefer to run solo.- Trust Fund
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Granted the first statement, I disagree with the later but that's okay.In post 286, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
I like you tooIn post 145, Trust Fund wrote:Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.
Not that I disagree with the TD wagon, mind you.
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It built up quickly though, it took forever to get hammered.In post 292, BROseidon wrote:pedit: HOLY FUCK THAT WAGON TO FOR FUCKING EVER. SHE WAS CAUGHT FOR LIKE 2K POSTS.- Trust Fund
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Of course it was. The yelly shouty fonts etc were all so fun.In post 294, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I think that was probably Mollie raking you over it.
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It looks scum because as town, merely lashing out at your wagon leaders is not really the best play. Town-TD; I feel like, would have looked to explain his reasoning instead of merely OMGUS voting.In post 298, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
So you received an emotional response, which looked scum, why?In post 291, Trust Fund wrote:I mean, it could be town lashout, but I don't feel it's as likely to be town-lash as scum-lash; and either way, heaping on pressure means more emotions, which means an easier read.
And if you received an emotional response already, what good did you feel the vote would do,onlyin regards to pressure?
More pressure, more emotional outbursts, easier read in the end. This isn't like cold stone, where I was wiling to lynch somebody within a few hours or less of the game starting; but more outbursts equals more to go off of.- Trust Fund
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If they use proper punctuation and caps; it's jiffy.In post 301, Venmar wrote:wish Majiffy/PM ( sign your posts darn it )
if it looks like this cuz screw formatting, it's mollie.- Trust Fund
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Hai giffyIn post 304, Sound of Silence wrote:Holy shit 6 moar pages already
Meh I'm just gonna ask fery what happened so far XD- Trust Fund
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Which votes, varsoon?In post 303, Faster Than Light wrote:I agree a lot of the votes on the wagon are inarticulate and/or opportunistic- Trust Fund
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That's a great idea. I'll bug syr for a gif when he gets back online.In post 319, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: This is sounding an awful lot like a Salem Witch Trial. I suppose you'll crush someone with a boulder next and if they don't die, they're a witch?
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Not really. I know I play a clam towngame and I've seen plenty of emotional lashy scum. We're gonna have to agree to disagree here, jiffy, but that's fine. Talk to me about your (well, or mollie's) reasons for liking my post 145?In post 326, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Ok let me explain this to you. When you're trying to garner an emotional reaction from someone; YOU WANT AN EMOTIONAL REACTION.
Mind you - either alignment can HAVE an emotional reaction; it's HOW they react that matters.
But if you push someone for an emotional reaction and they've got faces calm as a Hindu cow, that means that IF AND ONLY IF YOU ARE CERTAIN THEY ARE FEELING PRESSURE: They're probably scum.
Town has no reason to avoid flipping out, at least not on a primal/reactionary/emotional level. They won't think to themselves "oh god, I had better not flip out!", they just FLIP OUT.
SCUM, on the other hand, will sit back and try to calm themselves down so they don't react negatively. THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE. Thus a LACK of a reaction is a SCUM reaction. You're not looking for CALM townies. You're looking for CALM SCUM.
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I like you tooIn post 145, Trust Fund wrote:Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.
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DAMMIT FFERY STOP MIND SNIPING MEIn post 330, Sound of Silence wrote:
Soooo...what are your thoughts about FTL?In post 326, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Ok let me explain this to you. When you're trying to garner an emotional reaction from someone; YOU WANT AN EMOTIONAL REACTION.
Mind you - either alignment can HAVE an emotional reaction; it's HOW they react that matters.
But if you push someone for an emotional reaction and they've got faces calm as a Hindu cow, that means that IF AND ONLY IF YOU ARE CERTAIN THEY ARE FEELING PRESSURE: They're probably scum.
Town has no reason to avoid flipping out, at least not on a primal/reactionary/emotional level. They won't think to themselves "oh god, I had better not flip out!", they just FLIP OUT.
SCUM, on the other hand, will sit back and try to calm themselves down so they don't react negatively. THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE. Thus a LACK of a reaction is a SCUM reaction. You're not looking for CALM townies. You're looking for CALM SCUM.- Trust Fund
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No. It's certainly their right not to.In post 329, nickthename wrote:Yall hydras need to sign ur shit.
I don't mind, but SoS won't, and mollie/jiffy one is obv. Varsoon signs his shit too, so deal with it.
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In post 340, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:So I'm asking you to tell me what was scummy about TD's reaction
So go pull TD's ISO. Note how much he emphesizes how HE IS RAGING LIKE RAGE vs just actually raging. Do you usually go point out how pissed you are when you're pissed? Or do you mention it once and then proceed to do pissed off things?- Trust Fund
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I thought you were quitting that stuff, boyo.In post 353, Sound of Silence wrote:weed vibe- Trust Fund
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Fair enough. 173 however keeps nagging at me.In post 356, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
There were a few that caught my eye. I'm going to look into them later.In post 349, notscience wrote:What do you think of the reactions to my claiming?
But you haven't told meIn post 350, Venmar wrote:Then i'm fucking telling you TD's response WAS NOT FUCKING TOWN.why
I've seen townies do it plenty of times. Hell, I probably have myself a few times.In post 351, Trust Fund wrote: So go pull TD's ISO. Note how much he emphesizes how HE IS RAGING LIKE RAGE vs just actually raging. Do you usually go point out how pissed you are when you're pissed? Or do you mention it once and then proceed to do pissed off things?
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Minus tiphane I think I'm ok with that list.In post 369, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:{FTL, nhammen}
{Ghost, Mac, NS, Silence, Tiphane, Trust, Venmar}
{AJ, Andi, BRO, Desp, Mastin, Mamma, Pappa, nickthename, Rach, Skull, Muffin}
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Get a room you two. (Although you probably already have one so whatever)In post 373, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
fuck youIn post 289, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
Hi, welcome to page 12. I'm sure when you catch up you'll be apologizing.In post 286, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:the td wagon is shit and opportunistic as hell- Trust Fund
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Damn borkie, a size 200 penis? Your heart must be huge to pump dat shit.
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Point already conceded with love, thanks tho~In post 379, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
that wagon in no way shape or form grew quickly. I had to beg bribe and bully to get you pussies to vote them so don't evenIn post 290, Trust Fund wrote:Maybe, maybe not. I dislike the notion of "wagon too fast to be scum" given how quickly ffery's wagon grew in xeno last time. The last few votes took forever, but the wagon grew pretty damn quickly. I distrinctly remember you raking me over the coals for not joining it, in fact.
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LolmmmkayIn post 385, TiphaineDeath wrote:Trustfund is a mac buddy- Trust Fund
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You know me. I like dumb questions. I also am weirded out by people townreading me all of a sudden.In post 398, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:that was me and why are you asking me this dumb question
Hey mollie, am I wrong about TD? Cuz like, if both you and ffery think i'm wrong, I probably am, 'cuz i'm usually shit day one.- Trust Fund
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Well, that answers my question pretty soundly, then.In post 402, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
majiffy is asking you why venny. why was it not town
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