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Post Post #37 (isolation #0) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:03 am

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Venmar, that's not how you spell "Miller Tracker" now is it?

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Post Post #39 (isolation #1) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:36 am

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VOTE: Nacho

...You mean there's two nachos this game? Fucker. You deny me a perfectly good shorthand.

VOTE: papa

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Post Post #71 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 5:59 am

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Nick:
Do you disagree with the wiki's play advice here?
The ideal play for a PGO is to get targeted by the Mafia, while not being targeted by any Town power roles. However, safer play is to claim directly -- this keeps other Town power roles safe, but also ensures the Mafia will not target you. Note that by claiming, you are opening yourself up to potentially being policy lynched at some point during the game.
P-edit: 'sup jiffy. You gonna yell at me this game too? +1 to your post about gambler's fallacy; 'das stupid.

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Post Post #72 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 6:00 am

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Oh and this is serious-varsoon, which is alarming, but I need to go read HxH mafia for a baseline. Or just have nacho post.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 7:11 am

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Does that make Venmar Leo Ryan?

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Post Post #145 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:31 am

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Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.

Not that I disagree with the TD wagon, mind you.
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Post Post #148 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:32 am

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^Sasha

PS: I'm not voting yet, deal with it. Syr needs to have time to post troll gifs first.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #7) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:37 am

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Sure he does. He has an apple. You do not.

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Post Post #158 (isolation #8) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:38 am

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Also ghostlin, your new avatar fits perfectly, jus sayin.

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Post Post #171 (isolation #9) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:49 am

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In post 168, Mac wrote:
In post 166, TiphaineDeath wrote:Neither of those are questions, and you are stupid to think so. Putting a question mark on the end of something doesn't make it a question.

Fail slip dodge is fail. VOTE: Mac. Hey guys, I found an overeager scum, want to help me lynch it?


is this really fucking happening?
Apparently so?
Sorry Colin, I'm voting anyways.
VOTE: TD
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Post Post #177 (isolation #10) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:53 am

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In post 172, notscience wrote:Hi Cabd
Please stop being useless.
TiphaineDeath wrote:At least I shall die as I have lived, completely surrounded by the completely clueless.
See the above.

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Post Post #178 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:53 am

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Post Post #183 (isolation #12) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:55 am

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In post 180, TiphaineDeath wrote:I have found two scum, I am not useless, vote one of them and I'll stop raging.
So both Mac and FTL are beating up on poor wittle TD?
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Post Post #184 (isolation #13) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:56 am

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^Sasha obv. Colin's posts are... unique
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Post Post #186 (isolation #14) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:56 am

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In post 174, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 145, Trust Fund wrote:Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.

Not that I disagree with the TD wagon, mind you.
I agree about Varsoon and also have some unhappy thoughts about MS's posts so far, too. I'm not sure if GiF will concur when he catches up.
Oh hey you posted what do you know.

Let's talk this one out, ffery. ...Like we always do.
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Post Post #192 (isolation #15) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 8:58 am

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In post 187, TiphaineDeath wrote:Call me that again and I swear to god the rage you have seen so far shall be nothing like the firey brimstone that I shall deliver upon you.
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Post Post #194 (isolation #16) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:01 am

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OH FOR FUCKS SAKE
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Post Post #197 (isolation #17) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:03 am

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....That was the worst possible thing you could have done with your role D1, ns.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #18) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:05 am

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I'm aware, but you could have gathered a wagon, effectively giving us day one wagon analysis without anyone being dead. Instead you did it this early, so the info we'd have gained from your role is WORTHLESS.
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Post Post #203 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:06 am

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In post 199, Trust Fund wrote:I'm aware, but you could have gathered a wagon, effectively giving us day one wagon analysis without anyone being dead. Instead you did it this early, so the info we'd have gained from your role is GONE.
EBWOP

And ffery, might as well try, even if it is that day one all over again.
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Post Post #205 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:07 am

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The motivation of it was ns apparently hates giving us early wagon analysis chances. Thankfully now scum will have to NK him sooner or later, he has a tendancy to fuck up in lylo situations.

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Post Post #209 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:09 am

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Which head is reading stronger scum here for you, var or MS? Because I now have even more town MS meta here. Red wedding literally just finished.

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Post Post #215 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:11 am

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In post 211, RachMarie wrote:Could everyone please tone it down a bit it is a game not a war jeez.

I gather from that that Notty is basically an Innocent Child mod verified?

Whats with all the claiming anyways I think like half the people in the game practically have not even posted or not posted much...

Besides his reaction to Venmar's claim is there even a case on TD? Something other than oh he was scum last time please.
Yes rach there is a case, now please have your godmother call for a PL on you again~
Sound of Silence wrote:TownMac, I think.
Agree so far.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:18 am

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In post 219, RachMarie wrote:I presume this is the cabd head of trust fund?

Could you explain your case on him, besides the whole thing with Venmar?

Cause though I can see how that would look scummy, the fact we have a wagon build up this fast this early before everyone has even posted kinda sets up my scumdar a tad.

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Post Post #225 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:19 am

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In post 221, nhammen wrote:Oh, I also forgot to
VOTE: FTL
I am Sasha and I approve this vote.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:22 am

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MMmhmmm, yeah, look at me on the fence and certainly not on a wagon at all.

Man I must be a scumfuck.

Oh, wait.

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Post Post #231 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:28 am

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Two scums, one vote. I don't really care which of you gets lynched vs shot.
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Post Post #236 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:33 am

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The analysis about Mac re TD looks legit, and something not surface-level.
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Post Post #254 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 9:52 am

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Varsoon ended up bieng town, AJ
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Post Post #273 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:08 am

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In post 266, Sound of Silence wrote:TrustFund your turn to call one.
Depends on the approach we're going to take. You thinking townbloc style, or just reads list bouncing? I mean syr is probably gonna come in later and start trolling, but i'll be srs bsns for now. Hmm.... How about AJ? I mean xenoblade was before I developed my supermetawhore self, so I never really ran it. Besides xenoblae, whatcha got?
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Post Post #284 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:20 am

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In post 275, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Cabd, what was going through your mind when you voted TD in 171? Why were you thinking he was scum? Why didn't you elaborate when you voted him? Tell me about the conversation you were having with Syryana that you felt the need to apologize for placing the vote. Did Syryana read TD as town?
Sup.

Anyways, you see TD under pressure, and then he lashes out at Mac in a bout of OMGUS. Same reason I read reckoner as scum in red wedding (ask mollie) things that are "too scummy to be scum" don't really make me feel great about a player/slot.
Haven't talked to syr since like.... page 3. He's offline, the jerk. I usually prefer to vote when my other head agreed with me, but sometimes I prefer to run solo.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #31) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:25 am

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Maybe, maybe not. I dislike the notion of "wagon too fast to be scum" given how quickly ffery's wagon grew in xeno last time. The last few votes took forever, but the wagon grew pretty damn quickly. I distrinctly remember you raking me over the coals for not joining it, in fact.

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Post Post #291 (isolation #32) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:26 am

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In post 287, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 284, Trust Fund wrote: Anyways, you see TD under pressure, and then he lashes out at Mac in a bout of OMGUS. Same reason I read reckoner as scum in red wedding (ask mollie) things that are "too scummy to be scum" don't really make me feel great about a player/slot.
Haven't talked to syr since like.... page 3. He's offline, the jerk. I usually prefer to vote when my other head agreed with me, but sometimes I prefer to run solo.
Had you considered his emotional outburst from a town perspective? If so, why does it not fit? If not, why not?
I mean, it could be town lashout, but I don't feel it's as likely to be town-lash as scum-lash; and either way, heaping on pressure means more emotions, which means an easier read.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #33) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:27 am

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In post 286, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 145, Trust Fund wrote:Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.

Not that I disagree with the TD wagon, mind you.
I like you too

the td wagon is shit and opportunistic as hell
Granted the first statement, I disagree with the later but that's okay.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #34) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:27 am

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In post 292, BROseidon wrote:pedit: HOLY FUCK THAT WAGON TO FOR FUCKING EVER. SHE WAS CAUGHT FOR LIKE 2K POSTS.
It built up quickly though, it took forever to get hammered.
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Post Post #296 (isolation #35) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:27 am

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In post 294, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I think that was probably Mollie raking you over it.

The last Xeno game is a long forgotten memory to me. I never did get too attached.
Of course it was. The yelly shouty fonts etc were all so fun.
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Post Post #302 (isolation #36) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:32 am

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In post 298, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 291, Trust Fund wrote:I mean, it could be town lashout, but I don't feel it's as likely to be town-lash as scum-lash; and either way, heaping on pressure means more emotions, which means an easier read.
So you received an emotional response, which looked scum, why?
And if you received an emotional response already, what good did you feel the vote would do,
only
in regards to pressure?
It looks scum because as town, merely lashing out at your wagon leaders is not really the best play. Town-TD; I feel like, would have looked to explain his reasoning instead of merely OMGUS voting.

More pressure, more emotional outbursts, easier read in the end. This isn't like cold stone, where I was wiling to lynch somebody within a few hours or less of the game starting; but more outbursts equals more to go off of.
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Post Post #306 (isolation #37) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:33 am

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In post 301, Venmar wrote:wish Majiffy/PM ( sign your posts darn it )
If they use proper punctuation and caps; it's jiffy.

if it looks like this cuz screw formatting, it's mollie.
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Post Post #307 (isolation #38) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:33 am

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In post 304, Sound of Silence wrote:Holy shit 6 moar pages already
Meh I'm just gonna ask fery what happened so far XD
Hai giffy
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Post Post #308 (isolation #39) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:34 am

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In post 303, Faster Than Light wrote:I agree a lot of the votes on the wagon are inarticulate and/or opportunistic
Which votes, varsoon?
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Post Post #310 (isolation #40) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:35 am

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And i guess my memory of xeno is less reliable than you guys'. My bad.
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Post Post #316 (isolation #41) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:44 am

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Yes, I expected TD to be rational and calm. See AJ's day two last game, etc. Admittedly, I'll need to go grab some towngames of his to get a baseline, before actually calling for L-1/hammer/etc.
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Post Post #322 (isolation #42) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:48 am

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In post 319, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote: This is sounding an awful lot like a Salem Witch Trial. I suppose you'll crush someone with a boulder next and if they don't die, they're a witch?
That's a great idea. I'll bug syr for a gif when he gets back online.

P-edit: No shit this is cabd.
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Post Post #325 (isolation #43) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:50 am

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Seriously, like.... I've only posted one gif and so many posts with text!
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Post Post #331 (isolation #44) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:55 am

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In post 326, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Ok let me explain this to you. When you're trying to garner an emotional reaction from someone; YOU WANT AN EMOTIONAL REACTION.

Mind you - either alignment can HAVE an emotional reaction; it's HOW they react that matters.

But if you push someone for an emotional reaction and they've got faces calm as a Hindu cow, that means that IF AND ONLY IF YOU ARE CERTAIN THEY ARE FEELING PRESSURE: They're probably scum.

Town has no reason to avoid flipping out, at least not on a primal/reactionary/emotional level. They won't think to themselves "oh god, I had better not flip out!", they just FLIP OUT.

SCUM, on the other hand, will sit back and try to calm themselves down so they don't react negatively. THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE. Thus a LACK of a reaction is a SCUM reaction. You're not looking for CALM townies. You're looking for CALM SCUM.
Not really. I know I play a clam towngame and I've seen plenty of emotional lashy scum. We're gonna have to agree to disagree here, jiffy, but that's fine. Talk to me about your (well, or mollie's) reasons for liking my post 145?
In post 286, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 145, Trust Fund wrote:Varsoon scum is looking more and more likely.

Not that I disagree with the TD wagon, mind you.
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Post Post #332 (isolation #45) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:56 am

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In post 330, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 326, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:Ok let me explain this to you. When you're trying to garner an emotional reaction from someone; YOU WANT AN EMOTIONAL REACTION.

Mind you - either alignment can HAVE an emotional reaction; it's HOW they react that matters.

But if you push someone for an emotional reaction and they've got faces calm as a Hindu cow, that means that IF AND ONLY IF YOU ARE CERTAIN THEY ARE FEELING PRESSURE: They're probably scum.

Town has no reason to avoid flipping out, at least not on a primal/reactionary/emotional level. They won't think to themselves "oh god, I had better not flip out!", they just FLIP OUT.

SCUM, on the other hand, will sit back and try to calm themselves down so they don't react negatively. THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE. Thus a LACK of a reaction is a SCUM reaction. You're not looking for CALM townies. You're looking for CALM SCUM.
Soooo...what are your thoughts about FTL?
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Post Post #337 (isolation #46) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 10:59 am

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In post 329, nickthename wrote:Yall hydras need to sign ur shit.
No. It's certainly their right not to.
I don't mind, but SoS won't, and mollie/jiffy one is obv. Varsoon signs his shit too, so deal with it.

(SYR go get a deal with it gif to reply to this post later with)
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Post Post #351 (isolation #47) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:04 am

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In post 340, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:So I'm asking you to tell me what was scummy about TD's reaction


So go pull TD's ISO. Note how much he emphesizes how HE IS RAGING LIKE RAGE vs just actually raging. Do you usually go point out how pissed you are when you're pissed? Or do you mention it once and then proceed to do pissed off things?
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Post Post #355 (isolation #48) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:06 am

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In post 353, Sound of Silence wrote:weed vibe
I thought you were quitting that stuff, boyo.
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Post Post #362 (isolation #49) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:08 am

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In post 356, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 349, notscience wrote:What do you think of the reactions to my claiming?
There were a few that caught my eye. I'm going to look into them later.
In post 350, Venmar wrote:Then i'm fucking telling you TD's response WAS NOT FUCKING TOWN
But you haven't told me
why
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In post 351, Trust Fund wrote: So go pull TD's ISO. Note how much he emphesizes how HE IS RAGING LIKE RAGE vs just actually raging. Do you usually go point out how pissed you are when you're pissed? Or do you mention it once and then proceed to do pissed off things?
I've seen townies do it plenty of times. Hell, I probably have myself a few times.

His reaction seemed town. Stupid, but town.
Fair enough. 173 however keeps nagging at me.
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Post Post #372 (isolation #50) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:16 am

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In post 369, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:{FTL, nhammen}
{Ghost, Mac, NS, Silence, Tiphane, Trust, Venmar}
{AJ, Andi, BRO, Desp, Mastin, Mamma, Pappa, nickthename, Rach, Skull, Muffin}

For record-keeping. Heading out for the night soon.
Minus tiphane I think I'm ok with that list.
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Post Post #374 (isolation #51) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:16 am

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In post 370, notscience wrote:What is that?
{Scum}
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Post Post #376 (isolation #52) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:17 am

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In post 373, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 289, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 286, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:the td wagon is shit and opportunistic as hell
Hi, welcome to page 12. I'm sure when you catch up you'll be apologizing.
fuck you
Get a room you two. (Although you probably already have one so whatever)
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Post Post #378 (isolation #53) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:17 am

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In post 375, borkjerfkin wrote:
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Damn borkie, a size 200 penis? Your heart must be huge to pump dat shit.
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Post Post #382 (isolation #54) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:19 am

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In post 379, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 290, Trust Fund wrote:Maybe, maybe not. I dislike the notion of "wagon too fast to be scum" given how quickly ffery's wagon grew in xeno last time. The last few votes took forever, but the wagon grew pretty damn quickly. I distrinctly remember you raking me over the coals for not joining it, in fact.

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that wagon in no way shape or form grew quickly. I had to beg bribe and bully to get you pussies to vote them so don't even
Point already conceded with love, thanks tho~
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Post Post #387 (isolation #55) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:22 am

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In post 385, TiphaineDeath wrote:Trustfund is a mac buddy
Lolmmmkay
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Post Post #390 (isolation #56) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:24 am

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In post 389, TiphaineDeath wrote:music to my ears
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Post Post #399 (isolation #57) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:37 am

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In post 398, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:that was me and why are you asking me this dumb question
You know me. I like dumb questions. I also am weirded out by people townreading me all of a sudden.

Hey mollie, am I wrong about TD? Cuz like, if both you and ffery think i'm wrong, I probably am, 'cuz i'm usually shit day one.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #58) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 11:48 am

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In post 402, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
majiffy is asking you why venny. why was it not town

cos it looked genuine as hell to me
Well, that answers my question pretty soundly, then.
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Post Post #411 (isolation #59) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:02 pm

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All three die actually.

And nacho isn't posting here because he's being a lurky jerk sitewide.
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Post Post #413 (isolation #60) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:04 pm

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Wait I read that wrong. Yes, only the doc and scum die.
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Post Post #416 (isolation #61) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:10 pm

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Yeah, I know. I'm just a paranoid old man, mollie.

UNVOTE:

It might go back TD, but major townreads are telling me I'm wrong so I'm probs wrong.
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Post Post #418 (isolation #62) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:14 pm

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In post 369, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:{FTL, nhammen}
{Ghost, Mac, NS, Silence, Tiphane, Trust, Venmar}
{AJ, Andi, BRO, Desp, Mastin, Mamma, Pappa, nickthename, Rach, Skull, Muffin}

For record-keeping. Heading out for the night soon.
Ffery? Thoughts?
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Post Post #419 (isolation #63) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:15 pm

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In post 417, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:think a pgo hits everyone who targets them if I am not mistaken.
Depends on the mod too. Like... sometimes it's only one shot, sometimes they've got an AK47 waiting in hand. Venny can choose if he wants to specify or not, doesn't really matter though I guess.
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Post Post #425 (isolation #64) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:23 pm

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I'm not entirely sure why he's there, actually. I think i'm forgetting something.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #65) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:25 pm

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These are his only posts. Mollie what post did you explain the scumread? (Or if jiffy did it, jiffy's post)
In post 189, nhammen wrote:post 25, post 28, post 29: Faster Than Light DO NOT SPAM THE THREAD LIKE THIS! Thank you.
In post 42, Venmar wrote:
In post 38, TiphaineDeath wrote:I. Don't. Even. All you stupid fuckers need to stop PGO claiming, either it's a bad gambit, or you are one in which case you should be playing in such a way that scum will target you and not town to get free kills instead of dumbassing. Heavily tempted to vote venmar here....
THIS IS A SCUMPOST, LYNCH IT
Why do you believe this is a scumpost? It seems to be mainly theory, which is not alignment indicative to me.
In post 53, Faster Than Light wrote:TD's response of frustration is interesting. Dunno if it merits a vote.
Venmar, I get the feeling there's gonna be a lot of targeting kinds of PRs, just given the nature of the source material and the large setup. PGO seems like a pretty damn simultaneously safe and polarizing claim to make on D1.
Is it too scummy to be scum, though? I mean, this is the perfect window for the claim--early and before any large wagons form.
The problem is that it polarizes the game too much.
If you're town, scum won't kill you either out of fear or to WIFOM town into lynching you.
If you're scum, town'll be hesitant to lynch you due to your power.
It's a strong claim both ways, so I guess I'll read it as null/leaning-scum.
I want to discuss more with my other head before I vote, but FoS on Venmar. Still getting used to what it means to hydra.
I don't think TD's response is very scum, but just frustration-tell.
This looks awfully waffly.
In post 61, nickthename wrote:As to Venmar, I feel like town would want to hold on to the claim, and use it against the scum, instead of claiming page 2. Perhaps this is a playstyle thing, but such an early, reasonless claim comes across as an attempt for scum to get their foot in the door with a fakeclaim early.
So this is a vote for theory reasons...
In post 63, Faster Than Light wrote:@Nickthename: Oh, well, that clears a little up on your motivations. I thought you had different reasons that would've been damning. Still, my vote stays.
What reasons did you think he had and why did you not vote him if you thought he had these reasons?




BeautyAndTheBeast, notscience, Venmar, take this Breaking Bad discussion ELSEWHERE. We



In post 99, Faster Than Light wrote:Huh. Regardless, got the reaction I was looking for from Venmar, so

Unvote
Oh god! It's the "reaction test lol" defense.




AND NOW WE HAVE ALPHABET SPAM! Stop this bullshit.



In post 164, Mac wrote:
In post 156, TiphaineDeath wrote:Hold the motherfucking phone, hey mac, who asked me questions?
In post 138, Mac wrote:you know there is nothing wrong with what venmar did? and in fact, your alternative solutions would have had more of a negative effect than the way venmar has played it?

VOTE: TiphaineDeath

i don't like the way you are playing so far.
those are questions.
I'm gonna ask what you think either of those questions has to do with alignment.
In post 179, Mac wrote:
In post 170, notscience wrote: I am doing things here, what thread have you been reading?
your iso is full of shit except like 3 posts
Oh good. For a moment I thought you were scummy.


Current scum candidates: FTL, TD (for reasons described by 81 and 91)
In post 221, nhammen wrote:In my post above I posted:
"BeautyAndTheBeast, notscience, Venmar, take this Breaking Bad discussion ELSEWHERE. We"
when I meant to post:
"BeautyAndTheBeast, notscience, Venmar, take this Breaking Bad discussion ELSEWHERE. We are averaging more than 1 page per hour. I will not be able to keep up at this rate."
The reason only part of this got posted is because I realized that if I took the time to preview my post, then I would have to add more to it, and then preview and then add more, etc.

Oh, I also forgot to
VOTE: FTL
Multiple wagons helps find out who is scum later on, and I feel both TD and FTL need pressure. And FTL is slightly scummier than TD.


nickthename wrote:
In post 217, Mac wrote:
In post 210, nickthename wrote:
In post 38, TiphaineDeath wrote:I. Don't. Even. All you stupid fuckers need to stop PGO claiming, either it's a bad gambit, or you are one in which case you should be playing in such a way that scum will target you and not town to get free kills instead of dumbassing. Heavily tempted to vote venmar here....
You didn't vote him, but you made this little half-step push thing, which is worse in my book.
bingo. it looks alot like you were flirting with the idea but waiting for someone else to take the initiative, TD.
Except that's not what happened.

VOTE: Mac
Wait what? I'm confused. What is the reason for this vote?
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Post Post #429 (isolation #66) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 12:30 pm

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In post 91, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 87, nickthename wrote:Really, what?
"I'm going to advocate a PL on player X then subsequently inform everyone that I never had any intention of advocating a PL but really we should lynch him even though he's probtown hahaha aren't I funny"


Hi Venmar.
In post 81, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 38, TiphaineDeath wrote:All you stupid fuckers need to stop PGO claiming, either it's a bad gambit, or you are one in which case you should be playing in such a way that scum will target you and not town to get free kills instead of dumbassing. Heavily tempted to vote venmar here....
In post 49, TiphaineDeath wrote:Me being heavily tempted to vote venmar was out of frustration with his stupidity, not because I think he is scum. Nick, you're silly, he is highly likely to be a PGO.
I mean, really.
What? These posts are talking to nickthename, not nhammen?
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Post Post #435 (isolation #67) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 1:10 pm

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In post 434, RachMarie wrote:I can see how that would sound ambiguous lol trying again

I meant more from Syr and not just fery that make more sense?
Rachie syr is with me this game, not ffery.
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Post Post #473 (isolation #68) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:24 pm

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So I see while I was gone rach and mastin slid? Mmkay.
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Post Post #475 (isolation #69) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:27 pm

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In post 448, mastin2 wrote:
I DO have some townreads >_<
Who?
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Post Post #477 (isolation #70) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:36 pm

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Mollie. You used the angry voice and I didn't even get a mention. I am sad now.
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Post Post #479 (isolation #71) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:44 pm

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In post 457, nickthename wrote:Actually, this is a perfect opportunity to say this. B&B, I like you guys, but seriously, can you shut up a little bit? You've been spamming pretty hard since the start of this game and It's getting on my nerves. Maybe condense your thoughts a little, wait till you have a few things to say? Thanks.
Welcome to a Large Theme hosted by Bork. If you can't handle 100+ page days, this may not be the game for you. We are a VERY chatty bunch, and you may or may not like it, but it WILL happen.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #72) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 3:49 pm

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Byeeeee bert. BTW, bork, you'll want to warn the replacement candidates about our evil volume posting ways.
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Post Post #489 (isolation #73) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:09 pm

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This is a side effect of the volume posters in this game, sorry to see you go, nhammen, but it is how it is.
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Post Post #491 (isolation #74) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:12 pm

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Probably me, after AMOL.
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Post Post #495 (isolation #75) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:34 pm

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In post 494, thezmon221 wrote:Alright. So I am here.

If someone wouldn't mind pointing out the things I need to know (as I have not read this game too much), then I would be happy. I'll do a read through right now, but some important notes to keep in mind are good.

Someone's a PGO, correct?
Yes. Venmar has claimed PGO.

Other than that, I feel it's best you read for yourself, hearing one person's view of the events will be biased. Feel free to ask specific questions though.
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Post Post #496 (isolation #76) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:35 pm

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While we wait, ffery, mastin meta, always this passive?
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Post Post #497 (isolation #77) » Mon Aug 12, 2013 4:35 pm

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In post 496, Trust Fund wrote:While we wait, ffery, mastin meta, always this passive?
And non-specific in reads; while I'm at it.
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Post Post #631 (isolation #78) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:36 am

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HALLO MY CHILDREN

COLIN HATH ARRIVED

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Post Post #632 (isolation #79) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 9:41 am

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mollie

mollieollieollie

plz come back

i wont let the mean fery hurt you again

i swear
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Post Post #634 (isolation #80) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:14 am

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In post 633, Venmar wrote:
In post 628, Andrius wrote:DAMN this thread exploded.
Going to go grocery shopping
and then I'll be here.
Lol what a badass
Just wait until he busts out the tea and crumpets
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Post Post #641 (isolation #81) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 10:34 am

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In post 635, Andrius wrote:the rage is rising in me so damn quickly
Dayvig or it didn't happen!
RachMarie wrote:Mollie :( Please dont go :(
Who do YOU think is scum?
In post 637, Venmar wrote:Scumreads right now are probably Mastin
This I'm actually interested to hear.
notscience wrote:HEy guys

Venmar thinks I'm town

HI SYRY I WANT FUNNY GIFS PLS

Mollie don't replace ;-;
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Post Post #660 (isolation #82) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:15 am

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Andyluv, we have a problem. Did you skip over the later mollieffery bitchslap fight? because if you honestly think they're scum together when like.... mollie replaces out because of ffery being mean to her? Like..... 'dem fakereads.
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Post Post #663 (isolation #83) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:17 am

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In post 649, Venmar wrote:@Trust Fund - Mastin scumread is mainly gut, but I don't think this is his town meta. He tries really hard as scum to appeal to others, which is basically all of what his 2 posts are, him complaining and trying really hard to look town. Both of his posts have like 0 content in them and don't hold much fruit, they're just him complaining/AtEing and not doing any kind of substantial scumhunting or being productive, which is what he said he would be in his 1st post (#240), but 228 posts later he comes with with his 2nd post (#448) with him just complaining and slapping on random reads.
VOTE: Mastin2
Andrius wrote:so page one ffery comes in going MOLLIE LETS DO DIS
mollie shows up doesn't really do things etc
ffery is all WHERE YOU AT MOLLIE
then jiffy takes over for awhile and ffery forgets about it

if this META is so GOOD and WORKS why the hell would ffery back off when jiffy shows up?
So, if FERY is metareading MOLLIE, then it's not surprising she backs off MAJIFFY until MOLLIE shows up again?
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Post Post #664 (isolation #84) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:18 am

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In post 662, Andrius wrote:i liked your general string of posts around that point in the game
and the fact that you're calling me out on it adds to the read


predit: wait what

predit2: no NS
DONT YOU EVEN FUCKING BEGIN
You heard me andy. Mollie is replacing out because she thinks ffery was too mean to her. You telling me you see that as a scum-scum interaction?
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Post Post #675 (isolation #85) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:28 am

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In post 671, thezmon221 wrote:Do you actually have your own reasoning, or are you merely trusting someone else's gut (not even your own)?
Venmar's reasoning is spectacularly good. Once I read mastin's pitiful AtE laden posts and confirmed Venmar wasn't a dipshit or a liar, I was perfectly happy to place my vote on mastin.

So, you and your leading questions can very kindly choke on it.
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Post Post #676 (isolation #86) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:29 am

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In post 672, notscience wrote:It was my role, I used it as I saw fit. You crying doesn't change the past. I already said I was bored and decided to use it.
This is why you don't get gifs, because you really shouldn't bother playing Mafia in the first place.
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Post Post #681 (isolation #87) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:33 am

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In post 677, thezmon221 wrote:Such hostility. I didn't say it was terrible. In fact, I agree with you that Venmar probably has something going there. It's influenced mastin into a more null-scum. I was just curious if you had other basis for your vote.

No need to make me cry, TF.
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Post Post #682 (isolation #88) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:35 am

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In post 679, thezmon221 wrote:For future reference, that was Cabd or Syr?
This is the one, the only, the mighty, Syryana.

So, since you're so talkative and things, pretend mastin doesn't exist. Who do you think is scum?
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Post Post #688 (isolation #89) » Tue Aug 13, 2013 11:49 am

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In post 683, thezmon221 wrote:As of right now, my three reads are FTL, nickthename, and RachMarie. I have given reasons for them before, so please ISO me if you want them, because I am feeling lazy about restating them.
I will do more investigation on nick. I like your other two.
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Post Post #977 (isolation #90) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 9:43 am

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Hi. Few things I saw while skimming while I catch up. Mala, me reaching out to ffery is NOT alignment specific. See AMOL in mini theme for examples of scumbuut cabd reaching out the same way.

Secondly, I'm pretty sure "5 scum" isn't exactly mentioned anywhere. I think I made that a theory on the OLD xenoblade postgame discussion thread, but i'll go look.

Thirdly, if it is in fact not mentioned anywhere in an official capacity, I'm already saving the rest of you a juicy spot on the wagon, you can sit next to me and I'll lend you all some extra booze. I'm drinking the good stuff right now, Grey Goose, sooooo~

~sasha
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Post Post #979 (isolation #91) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:01 am

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In post 955, Sound of Silence wrote:Crap. Wrong draft. :P

Reads:


Town

notscience
BnB
Rach
Venmar
Trust Fund
TD
Ghostlin
Aj The Epic
Mac
Desperado
Bert/thezmon
zMuffinMan

Null

Nachomamma
nickthename - ffery leaning town
mastin2

Scum

Faster Than Light (Varsoon + Metal Sonic)
Andrius - GIF leaning null. That's because he's refusing to read that wall.
BROseidon
skullduggery - GIF leaning null. He apparently didn't even know that he posted yet.

Not Sorted

nhammen/mala - ffery slightly leaning town, GIF slightly leaning scum.

This list? Mostly okay with it, I'm with giffy about skull. Nhammen/mala slot is something I'd like to sort myself, with you there. I've heard several other people call bro scum but not your reasonings yet I think, unless I missed it in my skim. Why?
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Post Post #981 (isolation #92) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:10 am

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Also, mastin is probably scum, so I'd drop him down a peg.
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Post Post #983 (isolation #93) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:10 am

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Confirming no mention of "five scum" on the old xenoblade thread. CHecking the signups thread now.
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Post Post #986 (isolation #94) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:13 am

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Confirming it isn't mentioned anywhere in the signups thread either.
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Post Post #988 (isolation #95) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:30 am

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In post 987, thezmon221 wrote:And you're modding a game where I flipped scum, brah.
OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE CAN WE PLEEEEEEEEEASE STOP TALKING ABOUT ONGOING GAMES
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Post Post #991 (isolation #96) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:39 am

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{mastin, FTL} pick your lynch, step right up. I'm saving people seats on the mastin wagon. Choo Choo, motherfuckers.
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Post Post #998 (isolation #97) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 10:59 am

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In post 997, Malakittens wrote:Even I would have never said "HEY GUISE MY PARTNER IS ACTING LIKE SCUM".
No, you'd just claim alien instead~
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Post Post #1000 (isolation #98) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:01 am

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In post 999, Malakittens wrote:
In post 998, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 997, Malakittens wrote:Even I would have never said "HEY GUISE MY PARTNER IS ACTING LIKE SCUM".
No, you'd just claim alien instead~
Shut up.
In good taste, I jest, mala. This is gonna be your version of mara's hard boiled, I get it. Anyways, you should vote mastin with me.
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Post Post #1006 (isolation #99) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:09 am

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In post 1003, mastin2 wrote:I recall him mentioning the number of scum when he announced it single-faction, and there were only three places he's done that. Could be wrong, of course, but I really seem to remember it.
Quote it and I might unvote you. I looked.
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Post Post #1007 (isolation #100) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:12 am

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In post 1003, mastin2 wrote:That said, even if there isn't an announcement, that's the number we have. 21 players is too small for 6 scum and too large for 4 scum.
Also this is wrong because you have no idea of power roles; could easily make it OP or superweak in comparison.
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #101) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:13 am

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In post 1005, Desperado wrote:Not only will the entire TD wagon be cleared
Why would that be the case in the event of a rach scumflip?
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #102) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 11:17 am

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In post 1010, Desperado wrote:
In post 409, RachMarie wrote:Whether TD is scum or town I am not sure on, but I am leaning town cause that wagon hell Nacho has not even posted yet..... And a few others as well. 8 of 11 votes? Cmon guys n gals we need to examine those on his wagon duh.
In post 1011, Desperado wrote:
In post 175, borkjerfkin wrote:[8] TiphaineDeath (Venmar, zMuffinMan, nickthename, BeautyAndTheBeast, Mac, Ghostlin, Faster Than Light, Trust Fund)
I think I'll rephrase: everyone minus FTL would be cleared. And besides mac, which I'm losing confidence in with every townread who defends him, I don't have any problem with those other 7 names.
Lolmmkay, {mastin, rach} is great too. Anyone who is townreading nacho, why? He hasn't done much yet, he's squarely null for me.
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Post Post #1077 (isolation #103) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:42 pm

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Syr's "cabd just post this shit I'm going to bed" reads list:


Town as fuck:

3. BeautyAndTheBeast (pirate mollie + Majiffy) - HELLO MOLLIE HAVE SOME COOKIES WITH ME
11. thezmon221 Nachopappa - you, I like you.
5. Desperado - lots of goodwalls and content. Little misguided on who needs to die today, but he's town.
12. Malakittens nhammen - HI MISS YOU CAN HAVE COOKIES TOO
19. Trust Fund (Cabd + Syryana) - TAG POWAHS
20. Venmar - It's venny, what's not to love
1. Aj The Epic - I read like three posts in this dude's ISO and went "town"
8. Mac - I don't have the words for how town this guy is

People trying to be cool people, and not quite there:

18. TiphaineDeath - didnt like him early, newer shit is good shit
17. Sound of Silence (fferyllt + GuyInFreezer) - hello fery, earn your townread harder pls

Kill this just cuz:

14. notscience - VI's always die
6. Faster Than Light (Varsoon + Metal Sonic) - shitlord and lurkaderp, what's not to vig

Rope needs to be on fire:

2. Andrius - your posting makes me sad
9. mastin2 - my bathroom is cleaner than this guy
15. RachMarie - that fence rides, doesn't it

Would not cry if dead:

16. Skullduggery - she's got like 2 posts, and they suck
7. Ghostlin - something feels off

I don't fucking know, and that bugs me:

4. BROseidon - he's being weird with this liar tell shit
10. Nachomamma8 - your posts suck nacho, where's the love
13. nickthename - this dude and the other dude i dont care enough about right now
21. zMuffinMan - this is the other dude
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #104) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:45 pm

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As for my own personal things, Mara to townread because holy fuck that anger is so legit and real.
I disagree with syr about ns but concur re: ftl
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Post Post #1082 (isolation #105) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:49 pm

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Yes, mala. And that was actually colin, SoS, so dealwithit.gif
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Post Post #1086 (isolation #106) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:52 pm

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Yeah, eventually. It was inevitable.
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Post Post #1089 (isolation #107) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:55 pm

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In post 1077, Trust Fund wrote:Rope needs to be on fire:
2. Andrius - your posting makes me sad
9. mastin2 - my bathroom is cleaner than this guy
15. RachMarie - that fence rides, doesn't it
But really if we could lynch from this list that'd be great.

I'll even give rach another day to jump down from the fence if we can have andy or mastin.
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Post Post #1090 (isolation #108) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 4:59 pm

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In post 1075, borkjerfkin wrote:[5] mastin2 (Venmar, Trust Fund, BROseidon, nickthename, TiphaineDeath)
I mean look at this sexy wagon. Come on guys you know you wanna join it.
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Post Post #1093 (isolation #109) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:02 pm

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In post 1091, Venmar wrote:Oh NOWWW you guys want to lynch Rach?

*silent rage*
It's okay venny. You're already on the best wagon there ever was wagoned. We can get rachie tomorrow.
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #110) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:02 pm

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In post 1092, Sound of Silence wrote:Now that we can talk about it, Andy's walls in this game tone-wise seem more like his walls in the perpetual lylo game than his early walls in the first Xeno game.

And Nacho calling that town kinda scares me.
AHA I FUCKING KNEW IT! I KNEW IT! I KNEW THATS WHERE THAT SCUMREAD CAME FROM!
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Post Post #1100 (isolation #111) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:23 pm

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In post 1098, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:so can we lynch andy now
Promise me mastin tomorrow and I am forever yours.
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Post Post #1101 (isolation #112) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:25 pm

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(Don't tell lynx)
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Post Post #1103 (isolation #113) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:27 pm

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Lame mollie. I feel so unloved. Imma slash my wrists now and bleed out all over what used to be my heart.

Nah but really, I don't mind mastin or andy, both work.
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Post Post #1105 (isolation #114) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:30 pm

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Take it up with syr, lol.

Also good luck telling me not to use meta arguments. I'm the most meta-based person on this site (well maybe second actually but ahead of ffery for sure.)
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Post Post #1108 (isolation #115) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:38 pm

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In post 1106, TiphaineDeath wrote:FTL trying hard to look town since july 2013.
I apologize for my earlier trying to fucking stabyourfacein antics.
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Post Post #1110 (isolation #116) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:43 pm

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Besides TD, you're on the wagon of great greatness.
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #117) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:56 pm

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Fiiiine. Who is scum with andy in your book?
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #118) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:00 pm

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Yeah but it's been a while. You agree with malatown, right?
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Post Post #1118 (isolation #119) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:04 pm

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In post 1117, Venmar wrote:Those last few BnB posts were by Mollie right?

Do I get a cookie?!?
You can't tell? I thought it was obvious given the signature "mebbe" thing.
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Post Post #1124 (isolation #120) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:30 pm

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In post 1123, Skullduggery wrote:Any particular reason you'd assume that Scum has day-talk this game? (Did they have it in Xenoblade, maybe?)
One of the two mafia teams had an encryptor yes.
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #121) » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:32 pm

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In post 1123, Skullduggery wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mastin2
Skull joins cool kids club list.
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Post Post #1207 (isolation #122) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:11 am

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In post 1077, Trust Fund wrote:
Town as fuck:

3. BeautyAndTheBeast (pirate mollie + Majiffy) - HELLO MOLLIE HAVE SOME COOKIES WITH ME
11. thezmon221 Nachopappa - you, I like you.
5. Desperado - lots of goodwalls and content. Little misguided on who needs to die today, but he's town.
12. Malakittens nhammen - HI MISS YOU CAN HAVE COOKIES TOO
19. Trust Fund (Cabd + Syryana) - TAG POWAHS
20. Venmar - It's venny, what's not to love
1. Aj The Epic - I read like three posts in this dude's ISO and went "town"
8. Mac - I don't have the words for how town this guy is
17. Sound of Silence (fferyllt + GuyInFreezer) -
hello fery, earn your townread harder pls
fery's more feryish now and gif is being good, you get cookies too

People trying to be cool people, and not quite there:

18. TiphaineDeath - didnt like him early, newer shit is good shit
7. Ghostlin - I like his push on us, yes I do. Needs more oomph, though. GHOSTLIN, HERRO, COME TALK TO ME KITTY

Kill this just cuz:

14. notscience - VI's always die
6. Faster Than Light (Varsoon + Metal Sonic) - shitlord and lurkaderp, what's not to vig

Rope needs to be on fire:

2. Andrius - your posting makes me sad
9. mastin2 - my bathroom is cleaner than this guy
15. RachMarie - that fence rides, doesn't it
21. zMuffinMan -
this is the other dude
this dude sat round and jumped hard on Ghostlin's reasons to not like us and the mastin wagon, what're the words.... "opportunistic as fuck"

Would not cry if dead:

16. Skullduggery - she's got like
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3 posts, and they suck, but she's voting mastin, so w/e

I don't fucking know, and that bugs me:

4. BROseidon - he's being weird with this liar tell shit
10. Nachomamma8 - your posts suck nacho, where's the love
13. nickthename - this dude
and the other dude
i dont care enough about right now
Now that we've updated that lovely piece of business.

So I see bitching about no mastin case. Okay, Cliff Notes of why I don't like him:
  • He's spent more time saying he's town than doing anything else.
  • His analysis is entirely internal: it all involves analysis of ISO to the exclusion of all else. His only interactions with people in thread involve those fucking smilies.
  • He scumslipped by calling 5 scum, saying bork said it somewhere , and shrugging it off in by saying "well it's obvious there can only be five scum" and "well I'm very sure bork announced it somewhere". Lolno. On both counts.
So if people have reasons other than "MASTIN WAGON IS BAD AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD" or "MASTIN'S WAGON IS SCUMDRIVEL AND THE PEOPLE ON IT ARE LAZILY PUSHING IT FOR THINGS", I'm happy to hear it. Until then, more votes on mastin, and the rest of you can go to hell.

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Post Post #1209 (isolation #123) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:13 am

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In post 1207, Trust Fund wrote:He's spent more time saying he's town than doing anything else.
As a sort of addendum to this, there is a cockload of AtE in his posts. Which is not itself scummy, but the sheer amount of it makes me snarl and want to slash him to ribbons.

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Post Post #1211 (isolation #124) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:14 am

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In post 1210, Sound of Silence wrote:I'm here Syr.

I notice you didn't address my reasons for not thinking Mastin is scum.
You have reasons for not thinking mastin is scum?

ISO TIME
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Post Post #1219 (isolation #125) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:19 am

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In post 1158, Sound of Silence wrote:Mastin - Null. I see why people are reading him as scum, but I'm not there right now. He looks like town having a bad hair day, basically, and I can think of a couple recent games where I really struggled to get a handle on the game on day 1 (and beyond). That's what I feel like I'm seeing with Mastin.
This? I'd agree with you, but mastin's slathered on the "bad hair day" thing thicker than the grease in Severus Snape's lanky mop of darkness, so forgive me if I take that with a barrel or two of salt.

So, I take it from your vote you think Andrius is a good alternative? On that, we do agree.

PEDIT: Checking mollie things
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Post Post #1231 (isolation #126) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:33 am

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In post 1220, Aj The Epic wrote:We don't kill confirmed town (NotScience). -100 town points.
We don't kill Probtown (FTL) -10 town points
Aww, you don't like me wanting VI's dead and gone? You poor thing.
In post 1220, Aj The Epic wrote:Malakittens is in no way town. You're lacking any reason. -10 town points
Yeah she is. That outburst was genuine as fuck.
In post 1220, Aj The Epic wrote:Calling yourself town stinks. -10 town points
Get the fuck over it.
In post 1220, Aj The Epic wrote:Zmuffin is more town than you. -5 town points
Not to me he isn't.
In post 1220, Aj The Epic wrote:Nick, Nacho, and Bro have enough content to decide what to do with them. Especially nick. Stop being so easy on 'controversial' or important reads. Take a -15 town points.
Nacho's got content, but it's not the content I'm used to seeing from him and I don't like several of his reads, e.g. Andy read. I dunno whether he's just being his derpy troll "It's Day 1 and idgaf" or if he's into the scum obfuscation thing already. I want to talk to him, and as yet we've not both been around at the same time. BRO I explained, and Nick is suffering from (I already read the rest of the list and can't remember anything he's done offhand, so fuck more ISO's.).
In post 1220, Aj The Epic wrote:Skull read: She votes mastin, so she's not a good scum read of yours? Only a lean? Come on. Not everyone who votes your target is scum. (you just lost all your town points here, so we're not going to dwell on how many that was)
Skull is voting one of my top scumreads, so I'm going to ignore her for the moment. Forgive me if I don't fall trembling because my way of playing the game doesn't match with how you think I ought to be playing the game. Reference Fred above.
Sound of Silence wrote: This post reminds me of my first game in this site where people tried to lynch someone based on exactly this.
Is it bad because it's an AtE and the sake of AtE?
Do you think his AtE is scum motivated? If so, why?
I think he's using AtE as a "don't hate me guys, I'm revving up, promise". So yes, it's bad, and yes, it's scum motivated.
zMuffinMan wrote:I didn't have particularly strong feelings about you either way before the mastin push. You were firmly in my null pile because, while you hadn't done anything that looked particularly scummy, you'd also done nothing that looked town either.

But yes, I agree with Ghostlin's points about you liking everyone who votes mastin.

If you want to call that "jumping hard" on you, or "opportunistic as fuck", frankly I don't give a shit. If you're town, your read on me is horrible, and if you're scum, I really hope you try to get me lynched. There's nothing I love more than having some dumb fuck come after me when I'm town.
1) Gross generalization of my qualifiers for townreads
2) Posture harder
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Post Post #1232 (isolation #127) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:34 am

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Oh yeah, completely forgot to reference mollie's mastin reasoning. IIRC it was "he's in my headspace, so he's probably town". Is that correct, mollie?
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Post Post #1235 (isolation #128) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:35 am

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In post 1233, zMuffinMan wrote:.............................................

Yeah, I think I'm best off just ignoring you until it's time to lynch you.
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Post Post #1236 (isolation #129) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:36 am

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In post 1234, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 1219, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 1158, Sound of Silence wrote:Mastin - Null. I see why people are reading him as scum, but I'm not there right now. He looks like town having a bad hair day, basically, and I can think of a couple recent games where I really struggled to get a handle on the game on day 1 (and beyond). That's what I feel like I'm seeing with Mastin.
This? I'd agree with you, but mastin's slathered on the "bad hair day" thing thicker than the grease in Severus Snape's lanky mop of darkness, so forgive me if I take that with a barrel or two of salt.
You're kinda remindiing me of some of the backtalk we (mostly I) got for AtE in the paradox game.
So, I take it from your vote you think Andrius is a good alternative? On that, we do agree.
"Good alternative." doesn't really convey the difference between "not a good wagon" and "good wagon".

What else do you want to talk about?
Talk to me about people that aren't main topics of conversation right now. Nacho, zMuffin, Ghostlin, AJ.

What backtalk are we referring to?
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Post Post #1237 (isolation #130) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:37 am

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Nick too. May as well firm up some null reads.
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Post Post #1240 (isolation #131) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:44 am

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In post 1239, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:I didn't say he was probably town, but yeah generally I read someone who is thinking along the same lines as me as town. town moves in herds.

I get that you don't like the aTe thing but tbh that is a null tell for him I think. I think you ought to give him a day.

I have been scum with mastin before and he is usually a bit more careful, right now he seems very involved (someone said he felt disconnected and I whole-heartedly disagree) and trying to feel his way around a bunch of players who know each other. the reason I have him sus is cos he was nice to me, which in and of itself is not a good reason to lynch him on d1 over my top scumspect.
Okay. This is reasonable.
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Post Post #1242 (isolation #132) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:47 am

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In post 1241, Sound of Silence wrote:To expand on this, I was feeling pretty horrible about screwing up, but was trying to soldier on, give town info that was certain to be useful down the road, refine reads, and strategize for future days, while fully expecting we'd get lynched.

I kept getting called out about AtE for the parts of my post that were motivated by the "feeling horrible" thing. Then I got mad and moved into the space of "I'm about to be dead conftown and you will fucking remember what I'm saying after that happens." Which was also labeled as AtE.

I feel like Mastin's in the earlier space of "I know I'm screwing things up but let me get my shit together and do something useful."
Mollie beat you to it. Though I get what you mean now.
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Post Post #1243 (isolation #133) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:47 am

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In post 1236, Trust Fund wrote:Talk to me about people that aren't main topics of conversation right now. Nacho, zMuffin, Ghostlin, AJ.
this would be a cool convo to have. mollie, you wanna talk to me about these people too?

Add nick and BRO in there for good measure.
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #134) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:01 am

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In post 1245, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:No one ever wants to talk to Majiffy :(
I do! See above list.
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #135) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:13 am

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In post 1250, Sound of Silence wrote:Nacho's Andy read really worries me given what several of us know about Andy's scum play.
*nods*
In post 1250, Sound of Silence wrote:zMuffin looks town to me. I disagree with him on some stuff, but his posts come off pretty damn town-motivated and the trajectory of his reads is internally consistent so far.
Can you elaborate a bit on the town motivation? Also, the timing of his "raaar TF is scum" I found highly suspect.
In post 1250, Sound of Silence wrote:Ghostlin looks like town-Ghostlin for the most part though there's a thing or two I associate with his town play that I'm not seeing quite yet.
I believe I know what you're talking about, and I agree.
In post 1250, Sound of Silence wrote:AJ's early play reminds me of town-AJ from Xeno. Now that he's dug in and is starting to pursue reads that's actually something I don't remember from the earlier game but once again - internally consistent and reasonable trajectory. Also he was hammered into a hole in the first game and I don't think he ever had enough stance to effectively pursue his reads.
Yeah, I liked his early play too. Mollie, why do you hate AJ? Luigi can answer too.
In post 1250, Sound of Silence wrote:Nick is playing aggressively. I think he's a little more aggressive than he was in the newbie game that several of us played together, but that was a few months back so I'd expect his comfort with MS game style to be higher.
I will ISO this guy at some unspecified point in the future.
In post 1250, Sound of Silence wrote:I think BRO is scum. I wrote up a short paragraph why in a reply to ghostlin at some ungodly hour of the morning.
I shall look for this.
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Post Post #1256 (isolation #136) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:24 am

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In post 1253, notscience wrote:Syry

Can I vig shot you

Not cabd because cabd isn't being mean to me
Only if you promise never to fuck up PRs because you're bored again. Then I might stop being mean and let you vig me.
notscience wrote:On a more serious note, who do you think the scum on the wagon are exactly, if not Nick?
In post 1175, borkjerfkin wrote:[6] mastin2 (Venmar, Trust Fund, BROseidon, nickthename, TiphaineDeath, Skullduggery)
Of the people on that wagon, I have townreads on everyone excepting Skull, nick, BRO. So if there's scum in there, it would be in those three. Which ones? Don't know yet.

Pedit: hi mollie, i will answer momentarily
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Post Post #1265 (isolation #137) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:32 am

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In post 1254, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:if andy flips scum I am thinking nacho is a good candidate for a partner. he should have zeroed in on the similarities of andy's pl game and instead chose to ignore them. he is out of step plus he is picking on girls.
100% agree.
In post 1254, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:muffin - not sure. he is defo putting forth effort I almost want to engage him but he doesn't seem interested in anything I have to say. he is defending mastin but going after lynchbait rach so hhhmmm....I dunno.
You think Rach is town, then?
In post 1254, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:ghostlin - he is mentioning our name but isn't reaching out. so unsure.
He's missing a couple key Ghostlin town qualities, imo. Not enough where I want to scumread him, but enough to keep me from townreading him.
In post 1254, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:bro is interesting and I asked both cabd and metal a question so I am waiting for a dialogue about that. in rw bro was really uncertain and I might be seeing something similar here. I waffle back and forth with him. he was much more confident as scum in xeno1.
I didn't like BRO initially cause of this liar tell stuff. I've never seen scum-BRO like some of the other people here, but that itself was enough to set bells off in me head. Putting him at L-1,2 ish and watching his reactions would be pretty alignment indicative, but I don't see that happening anytime soon. And not worth the time with scum-andy and possibly scum-nacho in the bush.


Pedit: I need to go reread AJ's Skull posts
Pedit2: TF, not TD, fery.
Pedit3: :roll:
Pedit4: Unintentional misrep noted, mollie. Sorry.
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Post Post #1269 (isolation #138) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:33 am

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In post 1260, TiphaineDeath wrote:Guys, hey guys, look at me, I'm trust fund. "This dude slipped, and I have other reasons too, he's scum!" ..... "Oh wait this wagon looks like it's not going to get there because lots of people don't agree with my slip, lets vote this other dude while I can still look townie doing it!"
Are you serious? So if your top townread makes a reasonable argument why to put mastin off until later, you'd just ignore them and keep voting him? Particularly when said townread is voting another top scumread?
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #139) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:42 am

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In post 1272, TiphaineDeath wrote:Yes I'm serious, according to you, you honestly believed he slipped. I don't know know about ya'll, but when I see a slip, I go after it till I'm dead or have been proven categorically wrong at least once.
Hey look, another player thinking I'm scum because I don't think the way he does.

I've been proven wrong about slips before. Between AJ's point involving said slip, and mollie giving me reason to give mastin more time, I'm perfectly happy to move my vote from him to Andy. In other words, I'm willing to consider I might be wrong about him which includes the slip.
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Post Post #1276 (isolation #140) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:42 am

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In post 1273, Sound of Silence wrote:You have TD as maybe scum and RachMarie as scum. Other than that, I think we're close to on the same page. Your stances on those two are consistent, but, I disagree. I'd have Rach at null atm. Our amalgamated read is somewhere around null-town because GiF is pretty confident she's town.
Why does GIF think that she's town?
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Post Post #1278 (isolation #141) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:48 am

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In post 1277, Sound of Silence wrote:I'm not as confident anymore, but her whining and shizz is null for her and I don't think she's being totally useless.
It put my hackles up mostly because she did the whole lurky whiny thing in a newbie game I was in recently. It took moving mountains to get her lynched for it too. Hence why I'm curious you thought she was town.
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Post Post #1279 (isolation #142) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:48 am

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^ she was scum rolecop
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Post Post #1282 (isolation #143) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:52 am

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In post 1281, Sound of Silence wrote:Is this Cabd or Syry

If it's Cabd, in newbie 1395, I was able to nail her down as scum very quickly. I'm not seeing that in this game. Something tells me that it's maybe because of her lack of posts, but until I see something pings from her, I'm content at leaving her as my townread.
Syry. Been Syry all day.
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Post Post #1290 (isolation #144) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:19 am

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In post 1283, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:that is town syrlacious or I will eat my hat.
You have no idea how refreshing it is to be town after that horrendous travesty of a MyLo game. Then again, you might, considering you were scum too.
notscience wrote:Okay Syry

I promise

ftr I hadn't been/seen one before so I was like "well fuck what do I do"

Good to know for future reference though
Next time, wait to use it for like, LyLo, or when you're about to get run up. Don't just... blow it to boredom.
/forgiven
Desperado wrote:Mollie, can you and ffery talk to me about what you guys are seeing with Andy? You've talked a little about the differences between his entrance here and in Xeno 1, but now you're saying he's playing like scum-Andy, which I am unfamiliar with.

SoS: Can you quote something useful that Rach has done? I agree that "being useful" is hard for Rach regardless of alignment, but Trust Fund and I are both seeing scum-Rach here for what I imagine are similar reasons.
Probably similar reasons, I gave mine in my reads list and a couple posts ago when talking to GIF.

I'd answer about what I think about Andy, but my name isn't fery or mollie :X

Pedit: oh herro usefulness /analyzing
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Post Post #1295 (isolation #145) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:24 am

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In post 1293, Malakittens wrote:I think he's scum, but not for the whole "5 scum thing".
Why do you think he's scum, then?
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Post Post #1308 (isolation #146) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:37 am

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Well shit, fery and mollie beat me to it. There you go, Desp.
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Post Post #1312 (isolation #147) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:40 am

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In post 1309, Malakittens wrote:Holy shit. The links that SoS posted on Andy look similar to the walls here. brb checking new links and then moving onto Mastin.
Uh

"andy's walls here look like the scum meta SoS just linked"

"moving on to mastin"

???
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Post Post #1316 (isolation #148) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:45 am

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In post 1315, Malakittens wrote:Dude. I already explained what I wanted to look for in Mastin's scum game. I'm not seeing it either.

viewtopic.php?f=54&t=25151&user_select[]=12314

Starting to doubt that scum-read on Mastin. -__-
I did not understand what you meant by "moving on to mastin". I understood it to mean "voting mastin" which in conjunction with your previous statement made absolutely no sense.
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Post Post #1319 (isolation #149) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:48 am

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Yeah I got that now Mala.
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Post Post #1344 (isolation #150) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:27 am

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In post 1342, Mac wrote:
In post 1312, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 1309, Malakittens wrote:Holy shit. The links that SoS posted on Andy look similar to the walls here. brb checking new links and then moving onto Mastin.
Uh

"andy's walls here look like the scum meta SoS just linked"

"moving on to mastin"

???
how much of a fucking misrep could this be? there's a whole part of that sentence you've missed out which is pretty key to the fact that Mala is
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just moving onto mastin.


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Post Post #1361 (isolation #151) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:46 am

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Man syr was busy while I was aslepin. Reading up.
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Post Post #1408 (isolation #152) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:18 pm

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In post 1398, Sound of Silence wrote:fery told me that syry wanted to talk with me
HI giffy. Syr and you seem to have exactly opposite time zones, but feel free to ask him questions if you want to and I'll ask him what he wants answered when he's here for once.



Regarding Rach is correct in that many of us share hydrae between other heads. For example, we have a three-way cycle between myself, syr, and ffery.

Syr-ffery is Rift Adrift.
Syr-Cabd is Trust Fund.
Ffery-Cabd is Morph the Cat.

If you mix in nacho and some of the other hydra-loving players, things can get a bit confusing.
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Post Post #1409 (isolation #153) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:18 pm

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That said, Mac, that vote....
In post 1407, notscience wrote:is bad and should feel bad
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Post Post #1411 (isolation #154) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:20 pm

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Btw, if rach does end up being scum, her buddies are all listed in her town reads section. Just saying. 3/3 on that being the case.
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Post Post #1413 (isolation #155) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:24 pm

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That said rachie, you owe me a better reads list than that. Why is nacho leaning town? WHy does it need more syr for you to read my hydra, when like syr made a shitton of posts today? You've obv missed all of his posts, so here's a handy link to a syrlicious set of posts, follow the ISO down until I got back. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p5225505

Start at ISO 122 and go until ISO 151
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Post Post #1415 (isolation #156) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:25 pm

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In post 1412, notscience wrote:DAMNIT CABD NOW THAT YOU SAY THAT SHE WONT DO THAT
She already posted her reads list, I waited until then.
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Post Post #1418 (isolation #157) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:27 pm

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In post 1417, Malakittens wrote:gotta love how everyone is ignoring our conf town.

Seriously

you guys are the best.
No me. Syr might be mad at ns (well until he forgave him earlier) but you don't see me ignoring him.
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Post Post #1427 (isolation #158) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:35 pm

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In post 1419, notscience wrote:Cabd, what do you think the odds are if Nacho flips scum that Rach is too? Given his naked vote on her and her townread?
I dunno, but I doubt we see a nacho flip before a rach flip at this rate. So it's more the other way around.
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Post Post #1436 (isolation #159) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:38 pm

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In post 1434, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1250, Sound of Silence wrote:Nacho's Andy read really worries me given what several of us know about Andy's scum play.
his opening is obviously different from Xenoblade and MyLo.
i'm not even more than normally confident Andy is town (haven't put my time in yet), but the cases I've skimmed so far aren't looking for the right things. The insult thing is a great aspect of his meta but you might be misinterpreting some of his insults.
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Post Post #1438 (isolation #160) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:42 pm

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In post 1437, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 1434, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 1250, Sound of Silence wrote:Nacho's Andy read really worries me given what several of us know about Andy's scum play.
his opening is obviously different from Xenoblade and MyLo.
i'm not even more than normally confident Andy is town (haven't put my time in yet), but the cases I've skimmed so far aren't looking for the right things. The insult thing is a great aspect of his meta but you might be misinterpreting some of his insults.
Enlighten me.
This needs a gif to go with it.

You can borrow this one.

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Post Post #1441 (isolation #161) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:43 pm

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In post 1440, Nachomamma8 wrote:it seems you have the wrong number.
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Post Post #1443 (isolation #162) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:45 pm

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In post 1442, Sound of Silence wrote:I'm already in that hydra dammit
Stay frosty, my friend.
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Post Post #1452 (isolation #163) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:52 pm

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bye gifffff
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Post Post #1456 (isolation #164) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:57 pm

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In post 1455, notscience wrote:Cabd

Lets say you have a vig shot

Who do you shoot now and why
Dude stop revealing my role to everyone. We all know I have to wait till night to shoot rach and clear all the shit up.
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Post Post #1457 (isolation #165) » Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:58 pm

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I'd shoot nacho but mollie/ffery etc can handle him. Although if we flip andyscum today I'll be shooting for the cheesy goodness that is nacho.
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Post Post #1482 (isolation #166) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 4:48 am

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In post 1479, Faster Than Light wrote:of course replacing him is not an issue


i'd love for orcinus to join us as conftown
In post 1481, Faster Than Light wrote:yeah and we can solve the problem by replacing you out so people dont get pissed off over your play

i want orcinus he is nice
Yeah if you're going to be an asshole like that, keep it in your hydra convo. Telling a player to replace out just because you want somebody else to be there is horrible and you should feel like shit.
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Post Post #1493 (isolation #167) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:27 am

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Popping in from work.
In post 723, Cabd wrote:So guess what guys. Rach-as-scum always puts her partners in her townpiles and leaning town piles.

Great example: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=18161 (Partners are Brosiden and Orci)

guess where they are in all her reads?

This isn't the only scumgame of hers she does this in so yeah.

More in the morning, but tomorrow, Gif and I sit down and nail this out.
Both her partners were in heavily town.

I imagine at least 2 partners in townreads section.
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Post Post #1510 (isolation #168) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 7:13 am

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In post 1505, thezmon221 wrote:We're going to have to dig a bit more through some of her scum meta of reads lists to really determine if Cabd is right in the meta (because right now she's 1-1), but with no multiball, there's probably at least 2 scum in her list of people.
She did it in popcorn game as well: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=27202


Will pull more scumgames, sit tight.
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Post Post #1552 (isolation #169) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:07 am

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In post 1551, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 1535, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1528, zMuffinMan wrote:OK. It doesn't particularly bother me if it never happens, but hopefully you can understand why I'm going to ignore every argument about meta.
Yes I understand that you're willfully ignorant that two of the best meta-based scumhunters on the site are agreeing Andy is playing to his scum meta.

That doesn't make you any less dumb for being so.
This is soooo going to piss off Cabd.
It's okay I'm already over it. But yes, that's THREE meta-based players, not two.
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Post Post #1556 (isolation #170) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 8:21 am

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In post 1554, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 1552, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 1551, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 1535, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:
In post 1528, zMuffinMan wrote:OK. It doesn't particularly bother me if it never happens, but hopefully you can understand why I'm going to ignore every argument about meta.
Yes I understand that you're willfully ignorant that two of the best meta-based scumhunters on the site are agreeing Andy is playing to his scum meta.

That doesn't make you any less dumb for being so.
This is soooo going to piss off Cabd.
It's okay I'm already over it. But yes, that's THREE meta-based players, not two.
While you are here, want to talk about Andy meta and Nacho's counter-arguments?
I disagree with nacho's counter agurements and find the difference to be pretty striking. It was also fairly evident that the early game banter between SoS and BnB was more in jest/rvs than anything else.
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Post Post #1567 (isolation #171) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:24 am

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In post 1564, Aj The Epic wrote:
In post 1525, borkjerfkin wrote:[2] Skullduggery (Ghostlin, Nachomamma8)
He's not even close to a lynch, Muffin...?
In post 1565, Faster Than Light wrote:
In post 1562, zMuffinMan wrote:someone unvote skullduggery so he doesn't get lynched before mastin is able to post
Lol, skull has two votes on 'm.

:P

-V
In post 1566, Malakittens wrote:
In post 1562, zMuffinMan wrote:someone unvote skullduggery so he doesn't get lynched before mastin is able to post
Yes because 2 votes out of 11 is really close to bein lynched.
You all fail "finding jokes in a game" 101.
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Post Post #1573 (isolation #172) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:30 am

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I'm not going to even respond to such an improper metaphor, and you should be ashamed you posted that. Do it again and we can talk it out with the listmod instead.
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Post Post #1575 (isolation #173) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:32 am

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In post 1562, zMuffinMan wrote:someone unvote skullduggery so he doesn't get lynched before mastin is able to post
This was very clearly sarcasm, all he's missing is the [/sarcasm] tagset.
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Post Post #1578 (isolation #174) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 9:33 am

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In post 1576, zMuffinMan wrote:everything i say is 100% serious



i want to read mastin's wall
Alol
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Post Post #1605 (isolation #175) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:44 am

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In post 1600, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:also I asked cabd and mac a question and it was never answered :(
Cabd is at work atm, sup mollie
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Post Post #1620 (isolation #176) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 10:54 am

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In post 1616, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:not sure about skull but yes to the former 2

td it will be okay. I think you are in full-blown paranoid mode though

hey syrlacious <3
What did you want to ask Cabd? I didn't see it in your ISO.
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Post Post #1625 (isolation #177) » Fri Aug 16, 2013 11:00 am

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In post 1623, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ syr

I asked him about bro's play in red wedding and if he was seeing the same weird uncertainty. nacho scum read him in that game but they were both still alive in xeno while I was dead. I understood why nacho was reading him as scum cos the xeno and the rw game held vastly different play by bro. I would like mac's input on that and nacho's now that is able to put the 2 games in perspective.
Ah, okay. Not something I can answer. I'll send him the link for when he gets online then.
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Post Post #1877 (isolation #178) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:30 am

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Hi guys. I'm here. A mix of Tales of Xillia being awesome (aka lusting over milla) and a few other things have been keeping me from my true love in this thread. But hey, I'm back now. Catching up.

~sasha
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Post Post #1888 (isolation #179) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:24 am

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In post 1125, Trust Fund wrote:
In post 1123, Skullduggery wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Mastin2
Skull joins cool kids club list.
Next person to try to misrep this post gets a free Syr-swearfest, i'm tired of keeping him chained up.

"Cool kids club" != "cabd's townlist" it means "you're voting for the wagon I am currently on and supporting and urging people onto, cool"
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Post Post #1892 (isolation #180) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:41 am

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The one syr wouldn't shut up about yesterday re RW meta?
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Post Post #1893 (isolation #181) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 9:45 am

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In post 1623, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote:@ syr

I asked him about bro's play in red wedding and if he was seeing the same weird uncertainty. nacho scum read him in that game but they were both still alive in xeno while I was dead. I understood why nacho was reading him as scum cos the xeno and the rw game held vastly different play by bro. I would like mac's input on that and nacho's now that is able to put the 2 games in perspective.
Uh... bro only had like 13 posts, one of them was RVS, and another was him replacing out. He was VT, and yeah he scumread nacho but like... it was very passive play. I don't really think RW meta is very data-heavy because of how detached bro was from the game in general. WHat little data we can gain says that nacho doing his townbloc thing is what reversed his scumread into a townread.
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Post Post #1899 (isolation #182) » Mon Aug 19, 2013 11:29 am

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In post 1897, Saki wrote: If this is what I think it is (AW flavor) then I fucking love you.
Love accepted.
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Post Post #2078 (isolation #183) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:06 am

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Meh.
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Post Post #2096 (isolation #184) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:55 am

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Back into your hydra, jiffy.

Reading up, but this "muffin tunnels the fuck out of rach" thing is starting to give me TD-MS a la xenoblade vibes.
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Post Post #2098 (isolation #185) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:56 am

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In post 2095, Majiffy wrote:Because RM can be scatter-brained
The rest of that line was fluff. She's ALWAYS scatterbrained.
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Post Post #2101 (isolation #186) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:06 am

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Now that I'm finally back, let's play the "why this is bullshit and varsoon needs to get his head out of his ass" game.

In post 1700, Faster Than Light wrote:TRUST FUND : 178 POSTS : SCUM
WHY: Trust Fund’s contributions to the game are high-noise and low content, often sheeping out popular and pushable wagons such as Mastin, Skull, and me.
Quote the posts. Since you skipped doing a post by post breakdown, actually, just the numbers are fine, but go quote/list where exactly I merely sheeped without having my own reasons.
Post 1077 really epitomizes this, as the kill list goes for days on people who town is iffy about/has a current scummy read on. TF doesn’t broker wagons or even do significant scum hunting, but just sits in the thread, gut reacts to posts, and passes off reads that magically change and come out of nowhere when it’s convenient to the hydra to have someone in the scum or town slot.
This post?
In post 1077, Trust Fund wrote:Syr's "cabd just post this shit I'm going to bed" reads list:


Town as fuck:

3. BeautyAndTheBeast (pirate mollie + Majiffy) - HELLO MOLLIE HAVE SOME COOKIES WITH ME
11. thezmon221 Nachopappa - you, I like you.
5. Desperado - lots of goodwalls and content. Little misguided on who needs to die today, but he's town.
12. Malakittens nhammen - HI MISS YOU CAN HAVE COOKIES TOO
19. Trust Fund (Cabd + Syryana) - TAG POWAHS
20. Venmar - It's venny, what's not to love
1. Aj The Epic - I read like three posts in this dude's ISO and went "town"
8. Mac - I don't have the words for how town this guy is

People trying to be cool people, and not quite there:

18. TiphaineDeath - didnt like him early, newer shit is good shit
17. Sound of Silence (fferyllt + GuyInFreezer) - hello fery, earn your townread harder pls

Kill this just cuz:

14. notscience - VI's always die
6. Faster Than Light (Varsoon + Metal Sonic) - shitlord and lurkaderp, what's not to vig

Rope needs to be on fire:

2. Andrius - your posting makes me sad
9. mastin2 - my bathroom is cleaner than this guy
15. RachMarie - that fence rides, doesn't it

Would not cry if dead:

16. Skullduggery - she's got like 2 posts, and they suck
7. Ghostlin - something feels off

I don't fucking know, and that bugs me:

4. BROseidon - he's being weird with this liar tell shit
10. Nachomamma8 - your posts suck nacho, where's the love
13. nickthename - this dude and the other dude i dont care enough about right now
21. zMuffinMan - this is the other dude
Because that was a pretty substantial reads list that was a result of our sync up, aka "syr finally starts paying the goddamn game" and I could say the same about your shit reads list.
MS agrees on the points about insubstantial and loud contributions and posits that TF has a lot of fluff and he has no clue who Sasha is.
MS edit: I later realize that sasha is cabd
If that is the case then cabd has lots of explaining to do(because this is poor considering my high expectations from him)
Vars Edit: I think Sasha is supposed to be Syrana?
Yeah not like I talked about who was who super early or anything. Oh, wait.
In post 148, Trust Fund wrote:^Sasha

PS: I'm not voting yet, deal with it. Syr needs to have time to post troll gifs first.
So how about you ask me real questions instead of "derp cabd has some explaining to do" because your entire reason for scumreading me is shittier than your custom title.
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Post Post #2103 (isolation #187) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:12 am

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Ffery, mollie, talk to me about bro, if you want that to happen.
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Post Post #2106 (isolation #188) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:35 am

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In post 1158, Sound of Silence wrote:BRO - leaning scum. He looks really uncomfortable wearing the scum-win mantle, which could be coming from a townish place. But, I'm not seeing the well defined observations and really spot-on quote-and-call-out posts that I associate with his play. Everything is kind of mushy and even inaccurate (e.g., the comment about GiF/me not posting much).
Anything major to add to this?
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Post Post #2131 (isolation #189) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 2:47 pm

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In post 2130, BeautyAndTheBeast wrote::facepalm:

You're a fucking moron.
Took you long enough, Jiffy.
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Post Post #2149 (isolation #190) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:12 pm

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In post 2146, notscience wrote:Okay guys, next post say if you would join a rach wagon or not
Only for deadline.


...I still don't get why drunken ATE is a ticket to day two, btw. If ffery and co would like to explain that, that would be greaaaaaat.
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Post Post #2151 (isolation #191) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:17 pm

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In post 2150, Sound of Silence wrote:1) We're huge sucker for AtE
2) fery thinks that andy truly believes that nacho reading him town makes him town, which fery had a suspicion on.
You two have thrown out the scenario of {nacho, andy} scumteam?
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Post Post #2153 (isolation #192) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:24 pm

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Great. Now I get to play the /paranoia of "what if {andy, ffery, nacho} scumteam" and I'll cry myself to sleep now kthnx.
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Post Post #2253 (isolation #193) » Sat Aug 24, 2013 10:03 am

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Okay andy let's play a game.

I'm secretly a quintuple voter so
pretend
you're at L-1, spring your damn gambit, then let's wagon bro 'cuz i'm sheeping ffery and stuff.
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Post Post #2352 (isolation #194) » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:05 pm

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VOTE: rach

L-1?


Andy you can plz just do your gambit thingie now because going all "hahaha there was no gambit" equals speedlynched tomorrow.
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Post Post #2359 (isolation #195) » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:13 pm

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Yeah. Saki issues.


If Andy is scum, he will be useless tomorrow. I promise.
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Post Post #2361 (isolation #196) » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:15 pm

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I meant to his proverbial scum team bar soon.
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Post Post #2362 (isolation #197) » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:16 pm

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Phone posting auto correct for the win.
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Post Post #2380 (isolation #198) » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:33 pm

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I'd flash wagon BRO at this point. Id be okay with nick lesser so but id do it.



Dear Andy, I'm really dumb so yes, I apparently suck at it
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Post Post #2381 (isolation #199) » Sun Aug 25, 2013 4:33 pm

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Okay jiffy. Make it happen, then, but should we have rach claim first or what.
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