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Post Post #7 (isolation #0) » Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:19 am

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VOTE: Klick

For getting the first post.....again.
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Post Post #25 (isolation #1) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:13 am

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Fuzzy seems a bit uptight, but I don't think it's scummy unless it continues.
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Post Post #32 (isolation #2) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 7:57 am

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Fuzzy is probably newb town.


Keeping my eye on Krazy and Boom. These two are at the top of my scumreads right now.
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Post Post #36 (isolation #3) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:30 am

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In post 33, theaceofspades wrote:
In post 32, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Fuzzy is probably newb town.


Keeping my eye on Krazy and Boom. These two are at the top of my scumreads right now.

what made you change your mind from your "uptight... if it continues" post?
Post 31 changed my view on fuzzy. He seems alot more calm now.
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Post Post #41 (isolation #4) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 1:26 pm

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In post 40, Om of the Nom wrote:
In post 37, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:If Krazy is a overanxious townie than his actions could get a townie lynched . However misquoting posts in hopes of getting an easy lynch reeks of scum. Either way I think voting Krazy is the best bet here. Hopefully Krazy is one of those scum who decide to suicide on day one a get them self lynch


unvote : Gnomeo



Vote: Krazy
This sounds so awkwardly worded and I don't like it. Krazy's becoming such an easy wagon to jump on right now.
VOTE: fuzzy
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Post Post #52 (isolation #5) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:20 pm

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I guess I should take my vote off of Klick.

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Post Post #54 (isolation #6) » Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:26 pm

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Krazy's post about fuzzy seems a bit premature but I think he was being genuine. I don't like BOOM's reaction to it though. I think he was reading it way to deep and going for a quick lynch.
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Post Post #72 (isolation #7) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 4:13 am

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Fuzzy, I hate the newbie card, just saying.

Also, like Krazy said, you are getting extremely defensive and you only have one vote. Why is that?
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Post Post #76 (isolation #8) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:44 am

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In post 12, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:well since I am new to this site and do not know peoples playing style my vote will be random for the time being. Round 1 usually a guess anyways unless the mafia or werewolf player does something obvious to draw atention to themselves. Saying that

Vote Gnomeo
In post 31, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Thanks Krazy for trying to paint me scummy by totally misquoting me. ( Yes ,I am being sarcastic here...just in case somebody somehow is missing the obvious) What I said was that it was hard to know who is scummy on day 1 unless a mafia or werewolf player did something really dumb. Maybe you are hoping noone would go back and read my original post. Either you are an overanxious townie or scum. Either way I am keeping my eyes on you.
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Post Post #78 (isolation #9) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 5:49 am

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The vote is probably temporary. Also, not sure how those quotes got there.
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Post Post #85 (isolation #10) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:47 am

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KrazyEyeKilla7 wrote:
In post 78, 1baldeagle1 wrote:The vote is probably temporary. Also, not sure how those quotes got there.
by pushing the quote button? though it does give some reasoning to why you voted (if that's why)
The quotes weren't even on the post reply typing thingy area. ._.

Also, Boom, Krazy strikes me as null/leaning towards townie, while I think you are leaning towards scum.
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Post Post #87 (isolation #11) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 6:51 am

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Trumpet, ace is most likely town.
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Post Post #94 (isolation #12) » Fri Aug 23, 2013 3:50 pm

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UNVOTE:

My vote was a pressure vote and fuzzy response was alright.

Fuzzy is newbtownie for me.
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Post Post #103 (isolation #13) » Sat Aug 24, 2013 3:43 am

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Unless I missed it, what is your case on Klick?
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Post Post #111 (isolation #14) » Sat Aug 24, 2013 8:04 am

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@mod, is there anyone that needs to be prodded?
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Post Post #114 (isolation #15) » Sat Aug 24, 2013 12:39 pm

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Klick, why are you ignoring this thread? Can you weigh in on some of your thoughts please?

Om, I did not notice that Klick was actively ignoring this, I ususally don't check people's activity.
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Post Post #125 (isolation #16) » Sun Aug 25, 2013 1:09 am

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Fuzzy, you first point is against the rules. Do not talk about any ongoing games.

I do agree with your points, however.

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Post Post #156 (isolation #17) » Sun Aug 25, 2013 2:34 pm

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UNVOTE:

Welcome back, Klick.

ferret, that wasn't RVS.
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Post Post #169 (isolation #18) » Sun Aug 25, 2013 3:39 pm

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Fuzzy,

Self voting =/= Scummy.

Starting to have second thoughts about fuzzy.
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Post Post #194 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:40 am

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Holy shit, I hate the noob card.

VOTE: Fuzzy

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Post Post #196 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:35 am

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Fuzzy is at L-1, just wanted to point that out so no one derp hammers.
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Post Post #198 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:40 am

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In post 197, ferretlover wrote:Don't claim yet fuzzy.
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Only do so when someone states that they intend to hammer.
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Post Post #201 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:51 am

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@mod, could you please update the player list and prod BOOM and Shadi and whoever needs to be prodded? Thanks! :)
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Post Post #269 (isolation #23) » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:17 am

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UNVOTE:

Fuzzy seems genuine and a newbtown.

Awaiting Klick's statement about ferret.
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Post Post #291 (isolation #24) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 1:42 am

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Still awaiting Klick's post.
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Post Post #299 (isolation #25) » Thu Aug 29, 2013 2:42 pm

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I'm going back and forth on fuzzy. I just can't get a accurate read on him. I think it's best that we leave him be. Oh, elle, that was a pressure vote the whole time. That's why it was a "temporary" vote to see how fuzzy would respond to it. I can't say it was a pressure vote, then it would ruin the whole point of it.

I'm still waiting for Klick's case on ferret, although elle has an okay case. I don't think ferret was trying to say "Don't claim" at L-1, I think he was just trying to help a new person out so they don't end up claiming when they shouldn't have.
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Post Post #304 (isolation #26) » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:29 am

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In post 300, KrazyEyeKilla7 wrote:
In post 299, 1baldeagle1 wrote:I'm going back and forth on fuzzy. I just can't get a accurate read on him. I think it's best that we leave him be. Oh, elle, that was a pressure vote the whole time. That's why it was a "temporary" vote to see how fuzzy would respond to it. I can't say it was a pressure vote, then it would ruin the whole point of it.

I'm still waiting for Klick's case on ferret, although elle has an okay case. I don't think ferret was trying to say "Don't claim" at L-1, I think he was just trying to help a new person out so they don't end up claiming when they shouldn't have.
Isn't L-1 exactly when you SHOULD be claiming?
Not until someone states their intent to hammer.
In post 302, elleheathen wrote:
In post 299, 1baldeagle1 wrote:I'm going back and forth on fuzzy. I just can't get a accurate read on him. I think it's best that we leave him be. Oh, elle, that was a pressure vote the whole time. That's why it was a "temporary" vote to see how fuzzy would respond to it. I can't say it was a pressure vote, then it would ruin the whole point of it.
Except that you voted and only
five minutes later
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In post 77, KrazyEyeKilla7 wrote:oh NOW it comes out that someone has taken the first post into consideration as a scum read haha
In post 78, 1baldeagle1 wrote:The vote is probably temporary. Also, not sure how those quotes got there.
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Post Post #321 (isolation #27) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:33 am

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Sorry, got caught up with other things yesterday, so I plan to do the ISO today.
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Post Post #326 (isolation #28) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:10 am

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ace, I never called ferret scum, I said I'll look through ferret's posts and post my thoughts. After do so, I think he's scum.
Spoiler: Ferret Case
In post 49, ferretlover wrote:idk what now so

VOTE: om of dat nom

Still random because no reads yet out of this crap.
There are 50 posts in the game, quite a bit of information and you pull us back into RVS?
In post 120, ferretlover wrote:I am dancing stupidly, eating cubed cheese, playing the clarinet badly, waving a flashlight swiftly, and chanting like a gorilla in anticipation.

At least I'm not wearing a sombrero in a goofy fashion.
Fluff.
In post 140, ferretlover wrote:
In post 135, TrumpetKing wrote:Klick didn't even come back with "more to post tonight", if I'm reading this correctly. That mixed with Fluffy's last 2 points is enough to warrant a vote in my opinion, because now it just looks like he's trying to look productive so he can stall and find something to say. Perhaps more pressure will wake him up.

VOTE: Klick

I still can't help but get a little bit of a scummy vibe from Fluffy, but at this point it's mostly a gut feeling and I'll wait for verbal evidence to get a more accurate read.
This was my thought. I am going to wait until a vote count before I switch my vote.
Wow! Exact same thought, huh? Yeah, I don't believe that.
In post 147, ferretlover wrote:I am tired. No.
Bad excuse for not having a reaction. Being tired does not stop you from having a reaction. You are just trying to avoid reaction so you don't crack under pressure.
In post 153, ferretlover wrote:Not sure why Klick's vote went on me. Probably trying to look like RV but it is kind of failing.
Really? Are you trying to make your vote on you look like RVS when it obviously isn't? Are you trying to discred Klick?
In post 160, ferretlover wrote:Now it is scummy to be tired.
Misrep.
In post 195, ferretlover wrote:
In post 192, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:My votes had nothing to do with whether or not I was going to get mod killed or not .
Followed by...

In post 192, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:I change my mind bc i was not sure the evidence I was using against Klick was legal or not.
VOTE: fuzzy noob card+lie+lie+lie+contradiction+contradiction+shit. 'nuff said.
Is it just me or does this seem alot like Krazy's post about Fuzzy?

This whole game, ferret has been just strutting along without doing a whole lot of stuff.


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Post Post #327 (isolation #29) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:11 am

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Whoops, let me fix that second sentence before the spoiler,

After I did so, I think he's scum.
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Post Post #328 (isolation #30) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 5:12 am

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Oh, Klick, you better post something tonight.
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Post Post #336 (isolation #31) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 8:10 am

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In post 330, ferretlover wrote:#1: "Plenty of info" uhm, a bucketload of shit.
#2: was waiting for Klick to post his analyses
#3: But I was thinking it, then read that you already said it. What am I supposed to do, not say my thoughts openly?
#4: Not even sure what was meant by "reaction", so all you guys started acting liking having no reaction was claiming scum.
#5: The vote wasn't explained. What am I supposed to assume? Then after asking for an explanation, another vote was placed on me.
#6: It was my summing up of the only reason that could've possibly come out of Klick's and someone else's votes.
#7: That post did look like his post, however I believe I was saying something different about fuzzy that he hadn't said.

Thanks for quite a few misreps!

pedit fuzzy why is om town?
1. There were 50 posts where you could have looked for evidence, but you pulled us back into RVS.
2. That's still fluff. You could have been doing something else in the mean time.
3. Who is "you" I didn't say that. I just don't really believe that you had the exact same thought. It was quite specific.
4. Scum can decide to ignore the votes to avoid cracking under pressure.
5. There were previous reasonings in previous posts that explain why they were voting for you.
6. No. You are not being voted because you're "tired".
7. Why did you make it look like his post? Are you trying to mimic him to look like town?

No misreps there really.

Also, ferret
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isn't trying to help the town after I pointed that out. This scum needs to be lynched.
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Post Post #344 (isolation #32) » Sat Aug 31, 2013 2:46 pm

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In post 341, ferretlover wrote:That post was about fuzzy that pinged.
My thought processes are always very short, you can see in all of my gammes I think.
I don't even think that klixk and o have even explained those votes from forever ago.
So, you say it pings but you don't really explain why?
In post 343, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Unless I miscounted I have Ferret at L-1. I think someone should double check that to make sure I am right.

Ferret- Klick, Om, Ellen, Union, Baldeagle, Trumpet
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Post Post #354 (isolation #33) » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:08 pm

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Why the quickhammer, BOOM? I don't see why that was a good idea to do that.
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Post Post #365 (isolation #34) » Thu Sep 05, 2013 12:22 pm

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Uh, I didn't even notice that fuzzy got killed, I didn't see a flip anywhere. ._.

Also, BOOM, I checked out Saki's meta and he does seem to quickhammer, I wasn't calling you scummy for it, I was curious about why that happened.

I'll take a look at ace's ISO once I finish my homework.
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Post Post #370 (isolation #35) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:18 pm

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In post 369, elleheathen wrote:
In post 367, Yggdra Union wrote:
I don't have too much time to go back through the game for now because of my mid terms

but

I would probably say

scum is within

people who said that he's newb town or something.

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So, I was kind of stumped after that NK - and this looked interesting. What was more interesting was that the people who call fuzzy town the most is between baldeagle and that other head of yours.

Althooooough, baldeagle was the only one to actually refer to fuzzy as 'newb town' (32, 94, 269) whereas Luciana only refers to him as town (36, 132, 288) as opposed to 'newb town', if that was the distinction you were trying to make?
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Post Post #373 (isolation #36) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:30 pm

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Took a look at Ace, like I promised.
Spoiler: Ace ISO
All of the early posts where basically attacking Fuzzy. Going for the easy newbie lynch.
In post 174, theaceofspades wrote:i personally self voted at least once as town on a previous account.
JS

@ferret. you're guess is as good as mine. Your vibe certainly is a tiny bit scummy imo. nothing you've said just more attitude. but it's seriously not even worth a FoS to me at this point. let alone a vote. cause you could just me a Reggie Miller guy like me.
Ok, take note where he says that ferret is a bit scummy.
In post 190, theaceofspades wrote:fuzzy. you not only played the noob card, you lied and contradicted yourself claiming you didn't. and then lied claiming you didn't contradict yourself.
scumy
I did this when I was a noob. This is what noobs do, they post without much thought.

In post 235, theaceofspades wrote:i don't think there is much to say.....

I think fuzzy should claim. as nobody else seems remotely scummy, and we need to move on
Rolefish much?
In post 358, theaceofspades wrote:totally not expecting that NK, will post more when I've had time to think
I don't know about you guys, but I played on a different site and when talking about the logic behind night kills is usually a scum slip and here's why:
Scum feels the need to justify their action to others since they spent their time thinking about it. So, he says that he needs to think then he posts his logic:
theaceofspades wrote:Why would they do that? werewolves win even if the mafia survive. In fact it's too the werewolves advantage to have someone else taking heat, distracting from them. The werewolves have no incentive to kill off the mafia
theaceofspades wrote:Boom's my biggest candidate. Lurking, but appearing just in time for a hammer, is suspicious to me. Perhaps more so because i didn't think ferret was scum, but still it seems like it was unnecessary. I mean ferret didn't even get time to claim. which is always a problem for me
Just because someone hammerred on someone that you didn't think was scum for you doesn't mean that the person that hammerred is scummy. Also, it's Saki always quickhammers.


So, I think he's scum.

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Post Post #375 (isolation #37) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:42 pm

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In post 374, theaceofspades wrote:.... that may be the worst case I've ever seen.

the only parts of that I want to respond to is the end. you can't hold me accountable for meta I haven't read. and I have not read saki's meta.

also. I don't give a crap what you do on other sites.
Ok, you might not care but it'll help me catch scum.

I'm not holding you accountable, I was just telling you.

Also, forgot to throw this in there. Ace called ferret a bit scummy then suddenly he starts to WK ferret once ferret receives pressure.
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Post Post #377 (isolation #38) » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:50 pm

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Doesn't WK mean that you don't ever call someone scum after you did once? That's what I heard.
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Post Post #384 (isolation #39) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:40 am

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But the thing is, ace called ferret a bit scummy then he never jumped on the wagon and today, he has a problem with that wagon.
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Post Post #386 (isolation #40) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 3:46 am

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But, he called ferret a bit scummy.
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Post Post #389 (isolation #41) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 6:30 am

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Even if you were still calling him scummy, why would you be against the wagon so much?
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Post Post #398 (isolation #42) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:45 am

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It appears that I have misunderstood the concept of WK so, sorry about that ace.

UNVOTE:

So, WK is where you keep saying "He's town" without really any explanation why? If so, that would be Om.

And, hey TiP, I'm glad that we will be getting more information out of your slot.
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Post Post #401 (isolation #43) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:54 am

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In post 400, TheIrishPope wrote:Yeah I'm just a VT so there's really not anything outstanding
Why would you even claim for no reason?
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Post Post #404 (isolation #44) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:44 pm

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In post 403, BOOMSHAKALAKA wrote:VOTE: baldeagle

You cant make a case about someone being scum because he targetted on a newbie when YOU did this as well

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Post Post #405 (isolation #45) » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:46 pm

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And since when was my case based of ace's interaction with fuzzy?
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Post Post #411 (isolation #46) » Sun Sep 08, 2013 1:29 am

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Sure,

, it's in the first few pages of the game.
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Post Post #419 (isolation #47) » Sun Sep 08, 2013 12:34 pm

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Alright, so let me sum up something here since this is moving a bit slow.

Ace, lurking is not really a scumtell. But, if they continue to post without much content, then that's different.
elleheathen wrote:Have to agree with the baldeagle issue - though, while I believe that he's an easy target, I also think that's something he's done himself as opposed to people using any of his noobisms against him. (Going to have to add all my made-up words to my wiki someday, lol). But yeah, he's flip flopping a lot between town and scum for me so idk atm.

Then again, this seems to be going a bit slow with little content so it's rough getting a good read on anyone. I'll go with this one, though. It's just a vibe but:

VOTE: Gnomeo
I don't like this. This was similar to ace's "I have a scum vibe on ferret" but this time she included a vote which hopes on the Gnomeo wagon. It's interesting because elle countered my point about the whole ace calling ferret scum by vibe, only this time she included a vote. Scum play, possibly?

Also, Om was the one WKing fuzzy so I need to keep an eye on Om, he's been giving me a null read most of the game.
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Post Post #421 (isolation #48) » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:56 pm

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In post 420, elleheathen wrote:Oh, you mean the
point
where you try to misrep ace?
Wow, misrep much?

I wasn't trying to misrep him, I read it wrong.
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Post Post #422 (isolation #49) » Sun Sep 08, 2013 2:56 pm

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Also, I like how she threw the suspicions back at me soon as I brought this up. Noted.
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Post Post #424 (isolation #50) » Sun Sep 08, 2013 3:18 pm

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In post 423, theaceofspades wrote:eagle. stop now. you're embarrassing yourself, stop spinning your wheels and try making some sense.

Lurking mid-late game IS a scum tell. scum has reason to post as little as possible so it cannot be used against them. Gnomeo has both been lurking and posting little content. So he not only fits true scum-tells. he also fits your version of scum-tells.
I have a version of scum tells?

Not really, he just might not be as active as we all are, as he might be busy in real life.
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Post Post #427 (isolation #51) » Mon Sep 09, 2013 7:59 am

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In post 426, BOOMSHAKALAKA wrote:
In post 194, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Holy shit, I hate the noob card.

VOTE: Fuzzy

What Krazy and Trumpet said is PERFECTLY true.
In post 269, 1baldeagle1 wrote:UNVOTE:

Fuzzy seems genuine and a newbtown.

Awaiting Klick's statement about ferret.
So you attack ace for attacking the newbie when early on you did the same thing and only started to stay off fuzzy when he was in no danger of being lynched?

Wow.

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That vote was because he kept saying "I'm a noob". "Wait, I'm not a noob". Scum can lie, you know?

The part where I unvoted is when fuzzy kept fighting and he wouldn't give up. Seemed genuine to me.
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Post Post #458 (isolation #52) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 10:40 am

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Sorry guys, been busy with other games.

Elle, your vote on TiP is bad, he's playing like town. I meta checked him.

Also, elle, why is BOOM null/scum for you?
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Post Post #461 (isolation #53) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:43 pm

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Om, why are you WKing so much?

VOTE: Om of the Nom

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Post Post #464 (isolation #54) » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:33 pm

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In post 463, theaceofspades wrote:? bald eagle. are you seriously this nuts?
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Post Post #476 (isolation #55) » Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:17 am

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TiP, usually, you would be more posty when scum, I can't support that with evidence since it's an ongoing game, but yeah.

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Post Post #481 (isolation #56) » Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:30 am

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@Mod, you missed my vote on Om


Fixed
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Post Post #503 (isolation #57) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:33 am

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Yeah that was a scumslip there.

I can change my vote on Yggdra, if needed. If not, then I'm staying with Om.
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Post Post #507 (isolation #58) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:21 am

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It doesn't.

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Post Post #508 (isolation #59) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 11:27 am

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Even if there were 12 people in the game, it's the same thing.

You start off with 12 people which is a 7 town vs 5 scum setup.
2 town is dead. So, it's 5:5. But if you were to be town, it would really be 4:5. So you need 4 town reads then PoE to get the 5 scum.

If you were scum,
It's 5:5. You know you are scum so you can just make it 5:4. The slip here was Yggdra saying that she/he needed 5 town reads in order to PoE. That's a slip because you basically called yourself scum by saying that because there would be 4 other town if you were town.

I wanted to explain this more into depth on how it was a slip, mathematically, since Yggdra didn't get the slip.
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Post Post #527 (isolation #60) » Fri Sep 13, 2013 4:37 pm

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In post 510, Yggdra Union wrote:
In post 508, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Even if there were 12 people in the game, it's the same thing.

You start off with 12 people which is a 7 town vs 5 scum setup.
2 town is dead. So, it's 5:5. But if you were to be town, it would really be 4:5. So you need 4 town reads then PoE to get the 5 scum.

If you were scum,
It's 5:5. You know you are scum so you can just make it 5:4. The slip here was Yggdra saying that she/he needed 5 town reads in order to PoE. That's a slip because you basically called yourself scum by saying that because there would be 4 other town if you were town.

I wanted to explain this more into depth on how it was a slip, mathematically, since Yggdra didn't get the slip.
Except for that I assumed 13, not 12. :P

Anyway question for you.

If you were scum, who do you want for teammates and why?
(And no, this is not a random question.)

Also I'm gonna be out of states and prob won't post much til Sunday.

When I come back at Sunday, we (everyone) can play a little game.

Remember that 4 townreads I have, well what I'm gonna do is make a town "case" and you guys can discuss and yay/ney them.



I'm not gonna out the purpose of this "game" until I'm done though.

Also, How many days do we have left?

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Here, let me summarize that.

L: sweet I have 4 townreads and I need 1 more.
A: um there's only 5 town left. Is that a scumslip?
B: hell yeah. But I wanna park my vote to Om for now. (Translation: should I jump on that? It might look too opportunistic if I jump now.)
L: uh what the hell are you talking about? ...oh. I thought this was 13p game, not 12p.. my bad.
K: what's the difference?
B: none. *votes* (translation: oh hey someone else is attacking too! Time to jump!)
B: even if you assume 12p... (translation: I need to look town now! Time for some number talk!)
-note: I assumed 13p, not 12p.-
I'm paranoid to people who WK so much, it costed the game that I recently completed, so I don't like people to WK, so I wanted to keep my vote on Om.

Also, why do you keep saying that "I assumed 13p, guys" when none of us called you out for lying or anything like that? The funny thing is, I'm calling you a liar right now. We have been playing this for, oh, maybe a month now and you don't know how many people are in the game? Someone with a town mindset would have checked to make sure that they had the correct number of town reads in order to do PoE on the remaining scum.

Oh, what are the translations, by the way? Your thought or what?
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Post Post #540 (isolation #61) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:49 am

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Yggdra, sorry, but I don't really believe the whole "I assumed 13p" thing because you could be scum trying to cover your slip. We have been playing this for awhile and you don't know how many people are playing? It just doesn't sound right to me.

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Post Post #542 (isolation #62) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:22 am

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Yeah, that's it, I don't believe you.

Translation part is the part where you put words in my mouth?
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Post Post #544 (isolation #63) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:38 am

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The whole translation thing is basically throwing thoughts in my head because that's not what I was thinking at all.
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Post Post #547 (isolation #64) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:55 am

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I did see the slip from a town PoV, I showed you, because you didn't seem to understand your slip.

Also, it's just my opinion but, scumslips speak louder than WKing. I didn't really like your post about "Oh, I assumed 13p" so that's why I voted.

P-Edit: I meant 12p, I was showing how you would normally think when there's 12 players. I mean, I'm not an idiot, I know 7+5=12.
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Post Post #550 (isolation #65) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 5:11 am

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In post 548, Yggdra Union wrote:But the thing is, I was thinking a 13p, so your whole point of explaining 12p thing is moot.
I was telling you how you should have been thinking.
In post 549, Yggdra Union wrote:Also what I meant by town PoV, I meant "Yggdra-town PoV."
What do you mean?
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Post Post #553 (isolation #66) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 9:56 am

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Yggdra,
1.That's how town would think, it would be their point of view.
2. Oh okay

Alduskkel:
1baldeagle1 wrote:Also, it's just my opinion but, scumslips speak louder than WKing. I didn't really like your post about "Oh, I assumed 13p" so that's why I voted.
I'll explain this more in depth.

My vote on Om was based off on him WKing so much and my previous experience with scum WKing, so I was starting to get paranoid about it, so that's why I voted for Om. Then, when Yggdra made that slip, we asked her about it, and I didn't really like "Oh I assumed 13p" because we have been playing for awhile now and you're telling me that you don't know how many players are in the game? I mean, what Yggdra did was more alignment indicative over Om.
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Post Post #562 (isolation #67) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 2:19 pm

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Is "throwing half-baked" pies a term for the game of mafia.

Also, what Alduskkel said.
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Post Post #582 (isolation #68) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:45 pm

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Ace's vote on Yggdra is scummy, but Yggdra can die first. 2 scumslips and I believe she is mudslinging. (I think mudslinging is where you post alot of stuff when you are under pressure.)
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Post Post #585 (isolation #69) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:57 pm

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A case? Dude, you have scumslipped. TWICE. And now you are just cracking under pressure and mudslinging.
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Post Post #586 (isolation #70) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 3:57 pm

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Oh, and what's pray tell?
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Post Post #594 (isolation #71) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:16 pm

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In post 587, Yggdra Union wrote:2 invalid scumslips.

Duh

DUUUUHHH

And usually I don't do this, because this is also my account.

But sister just townslipped.

If you're smart enough to know then GOOD YOU HAVE A BRAIN.

Now use that brain in trying to know why both are 2 invalid scumslips

ESPECIALLY THE PART ABOUT MAFIA/WOLF THING

This is multi-faction. Mafia =/= Wolf

Scumhunting techniques would be different for EACH FACTION

:roll:

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2 valid scumslips.

Don't see a townslip anywhere. Usually, you don't point out your own townslips, it usually goes noticed if you slip...
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In post 582, 1baldeagle1 wrote:Ace's vote on Yggdra is scummy, but Yggdra can die first. 2 scumslips and I believe she is mudslinging. (I think mudslinging is where you post alot of stuff when you are under pressure.)
Wait... So I just saw this and...

We're under pressure? Wuuuut?

What pressure? There's no pressure even.

And you know what's mudslinging? What you're doing is mudslinging.

"HAHAHA FAKESCUMSLIP GO!!!"
"HAHAHA VOTE"
"Oh shit let's not push it further and let others lynch this guy"
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In post 589, Alduskkel wrote:What was your supposed scumslip last time?
You don't even know what the scumslips are

Yet you vote

:roll:

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Yes. You are obviously under pressure. Your posting count has gone up ever since you slipped. Stop trying to make your scumslips look fake.

How am I mudslinging? Ace's vote WAS scummy, but you need to die first. Seriously. You don't even make sense about the part where you are telling Alduskell that he doesn't know what scumslips are.
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Post Post #595 (isolation #72) » Sat Sep 14, 2013 4:18 pm

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Yggdra, stop posting so much, you keep ninjaing me.
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Post Post #635 (isolation #73) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:12 am

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In post 569, theaceofspades wrote:guys hang your heads and hold the haranguing of miss union.

The first one is not a scum slip. At all. seriously. c'mon.

the second..... i don't know......scum usually equals, "anti-town"

I really really hate playing with hydras sometimes. That said.......I still think eagle was being an idiot.....and union was always null to me....

ugh.

VOTE: union.
I don't really like your reason for voting Yggdra. You are unsure about the slips, called Yggdra null then you vote her. It just seems scummy to me, but I still rather lynch the person who have slipped.

Yggdra, how would you know what scumteam I would be on if you were town? Calling me a wolf was alignment indicative because you just proved that you were on one of the scumteams to know that.

Also, stop calling people scum whenever they vote for you. I just don't like that OMGUS.
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Post Post #657 (isolation #74) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:11 pm

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Elle, didn't you replace in one of my games before? I swear, I remember you joining one of my games hence why I was familiar.

Yggdra, I don't understand how you would know that I'm a wolf without being on the mafia side. If you already answered this, can you point it out? Your spam is hard to read.
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Post Post #659 (isolation #75) » Sun Sep 15, 2013 1:14 pm

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Alright, wanted to get one more post out before I go into:

@mod, V/LA until Tuesday
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Post Post #773 (isolation #76) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:32 pm

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Alright, I'm back. Gimmie some time to catch up.
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Post Post #775 (isolation #77) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:59 pm

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I'll agree with Alduskell, that I'm getting really tired of the whole scumslip thing.

Yggdra, I was finally able to read your whole Act thing (which was helpful, by the way, I had a hard time trying to see through your explanation)and I do see some sense in them, so Yggdra is a null for me now.

I am up for an ace lynch due to the really scummy opportunistic vote and the OMGUS.

VOTE: ace

I'll read Ald's thing about the seer later tonight. Don't feel like read a wall of text at the moment due to me being tired from the amount of things happening during my V/LA.
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Post Post #798 (isolation #78) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 12:23 am

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Tip, why was I lying about your town meta and YU wasn't?

Yeah, Om is scum.

Alduskell, I was suspicious of ace all day. That vote didn't come from out of nowhere.

Should I claim now?
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Post Post #809 (isolation #79) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:03 am

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I called Om scum earlier, so no, that wasn't OMGUS.

ace, just because you don't think that Om is scum doesn't make me scum.

And, I'm a VT.

I could see a Om/YU wolf team and a TIP, ace, Trumpet King mafia team. To me, it just looks like that YU and Om are just bussing each other. Trumpet King was a guess, I didn't really have a 5th scumread. TIP is because he's lying about the fact that I lied. Ace, yeah you know why.
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Post Post #812 (isolation #80) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:15 am

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Hmm, swear I saw Om voting for you. Man, I'm dense. Anyways, that was a convenient L-1 vote on me, as he is OMGUSing me. He was also going for the newbie lynch yesterday.

Scumreads still stand.
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Post Post #814 (isolation #81) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:21 am

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It was PoE, Yggdra.
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Post Post #816 (isolation #82) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:44 am

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Yeah, Trumpet was the last null and everyone was town. So I tossed him in the scum pile. So, yep, that's PoE.
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Post Post #834 (isolation #83) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:36 pm

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Yggdra, I had a scumread on TIP, Om and ace. You and Trumpet were null and everyone else was town. So I figured that you guys would be scum so I just tossed you in the scum pile.
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Post Post #846 (isolation #84) » Thu Sep 19, 2013 4:57 am

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Scum reads still stand. You will need them.
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Post Post #1252 (isolation #85) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:38 pm

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Aww, good game guys, this was fun.

I was right about Om being a werewolf, but tbh, I wasn't expecting Ald to flip werewolf. The Werewolf team would have had a better chance of winning if SV didn't get lynched.
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Post Post #1253 (isolation #86) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:39 pm

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