Mini 1492: Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets GAME OVER

[JasonWazza]

VOTE: Amrun

Always scum, always lynches me.

[JasonWazza]

Amrun is still scum guys.

[JasonWazza]

And why wouldn't you question me for the same thing?

[JasonWazza]

Why did you just parrot me?

[JasonWazza]

My explanation is that Amrun is scum. i'm just pointing out your bitching over Squilly's meaningless votes when me and CDB were both doing the same thing.

[JasonWazza]

I am playing the game.

[JasonWazza]

Who said it was RVS?

[JasonWazza]

I had a scum read on you, when i voted.

[JasonWazza]

Lol votes on me are pathetic, your voting me because i used an RVS reason even though i had a scum read?

What horse shit, go find a better wagon, and note that my RVS reason was about Amrun being scum.

[JasonWazza]

Why do it when it shows me scum?

Seriously your vote is bad and you should feel bad.

[JasonWazza]

Because if i pointed it out to town, i'd be pointing it out to scum, and if i point it out to scum, they will give less tells surrounding the issue.

[JasonWazza]

Jason is also good at both being scum and town. Not so sold on this wagon on him though.

Though to be fair, I always lynch you as scum.

[JasonWazza]

I must have done that on the basis i always lynch you as scum....

But that easy wagon is a no go, cause your prob's not scum.

[JasonWazza]

Jason, I don't really get what you're doing. Do you have any other reads besides Amrun?

Yes and they will be disclosed when i put them into a single post in the thread.

[JasonWazza]

Yeah or i could wait till i have;
a) the motivation to post them
b) the time
c) more reactions that look scummy/towny

I'm getting more then just reactions from Amrun via this.

[JasonWazza]

So i'm scum now for what reason?

[JasonWazza]

Post that contains nothing game relevant and is clearly a prod dodge cause my birthday was yesterday.

[JasonWazza]

Intent to hammer.

[JasonWazza]

So i had a massive post for you guys last night, but my home network decided to circle jerk me and just stop working, needless to say that post no longer exists, so this is a significantly shorter one.

Scum:
{Amrun, Stubbs, LnGrrrR, fferyllt (weakest read of the lot)}

Town:
{Marquis, Rach, CDB}

The rest are still nullish.

Not a good match IMO. I've been thinking more about his play in Micro 186- Vengeball. Syr and I played that game as our hydra, Rift Adrift. Jason was one of the godfathers.

The newbie game you referenced, on day 1 he was quite strategic in terms of when he'd show up and what he would comment on.

That still doesn't make this lurking different to either my town or scum lurking, when i can't get into a game i don't post THAT IS WHY I LURK AND IT HAPPENS REGARDLESS OF ALIGNMENT.

If JW doesn't deliver the goods in his next post, I'll hammer.

Taking this as intent to hammer.

I am Argus Filch, JoAT just like stubbs claims to be.

Follower, Reporter, Voyeur.

[JasonWazza]

I had a post that explained everything, and i really don't feel like retyping the whole thing

Follower: I get a result of "Investigative, Killing etc." for what that person did at night
Reporter: I know if they went

no

where or not.
Voyeur: I know what was done to someone, but not who did it.

So basically, Really weak cop, Vanilla Cop, Action Watcher.

[JasonWazza]

How have i not addressed the JoAT claim?

[JasonWazza]

how were they scummy?

[JasonWazza]

I'm answer to Jason: doesn't calling your posts evasive kind of speak for itself?

Anyway it's late at night here and posting on this phone is painful so I might save any more thoughts for tomorrow.

Evasive and scummy are two different things.

[JasonWazza]

You realize the problem wasn't time, it was effort, right?

[JasonWazza]

You realize the problem wasn't time, it was effort, right?

How much effort are you talking about here?

It was actually a really long post, and i got really pissed that it got killed.

[JasonWazza]

Ginny Weasley, a Hogwarts-aligned Townie and a Gryffindor who wants to eliminate any known threats to Hogwarts. I'm also one out of only two characters who fit the "lovers" flavor in the first post, though I'm fairly sure Harry and I aren't lovers in the mafia sense.

Like I said, I also have a huge town read on Lngrrrr for the claim. Everything about it makes sense, especially his delivery.

I don't know what to think of CDB except slight scum.

I am very confident that Jason is scum. Why?

-I don't think there are 2 town JOATs in the game.
-People seemed to be ignoring him for the past few days which isn't exactly a scum tell but I dislike that certain people are pushing the idea of him as scum to the side so easily.
-His weak powers when compared to Stubbs' claimed powers make sense when you add in access to a factional nightkill.
-Finally, 3/4 claims we have today are all Gryffindor house. Yes, the word is "Hogwarts-aligned", but being the odd one out and a second JOAT doesn't help Jason's claim much.
-p.s. Colin, Nearly Headless Nick, and Ginny all encountered and were (near) victims of the Basilisk. Not Filch. It makes sense that Filch is working against Harry Potter in the 2nd book, despite his overall actions toward the end of the series.

1 and a half hours left today. I'm getting lynched. Sorry that my activity kind of sucked, but please follow up on this

Filches cat was a victim, hence Filch would want pay back.

That last theory is moot.

Why wouldn't there be 2 town JoATs?

Ignoring doesn't mean anything.

Yeah i'm weak compared to Stubbs, i'm also powerful in some cases, i have what is a kill detection, a vanilla cop and an action watcher, i can confirm roles.

[JasonWazza]

Stubbs, Jason, feel free to post results, or hold back until everyone checks in like I plan to.

My results are being held back for longer then just everyone checking in since we aren't mass claiming.

[JasonWazza]

I was roleblocked last night :/

Wait a second, the mod told you that you were blocked?

[JasonWazza]

I will share who I protected after everyone checks in.

Why would you wait? Why does it matter?

Wait a second, the mod told you that you were blocked?

Well he claimed a JOAT with a Cop part, so if he got no result he'd know he was blocked.

It should be said however that this is a pretty easy way to hold up a fakeclaim. (I doubt the Stubbs claim more than the other claims at this stage.)

You should have let Stubbs answer this.

[JasonWazza]

I refuse to answer that.

Why you want to know if i got results?

It doesn't benefit anyone more then scum at this point.

[JasonWazza]

Can we lynch this based on bullshit insider information, and result hunting?

[JasonWazza]

Not really, that just shows that mafia can easily have a Mafia doctor against an SK.

If you think that makes you conf town your fucking stretching.

[JasonWazza]

@Stubbs, did you lose your shot, or do you get to keep it since you were roleblocked?

Seriously guys, how is this rolefishing NOT MOTHER FUCKING SCUM?

[JasonWazza]

@Jason, you're a horrible player and you have done nothing.

Have you figured out a reason for claiming Amrun is scum yet? Oh and I guess your theory is that Amrun and I just decided to his way other from the jump for an entire day?

What have YOU done that makes you town hm? Do you think that just yelling out random statements is helpful?

If you are town, prove it. Either give us info, or scum hunt. Because as long as you are acting like this, I am going to protect Stubbs, or even take a chance at protecting a random townie, then protect someone who is so ridiculously anti-town.

Your assertion that you won't share the info you learned toDay makes no sense. What if you are the NK toNight? Then your investigation is wasted. And considering that there are two JOAT claims, proving that at least ONE of them is town would go a long way towards helping to analyze the wagons. But hey, you haven't been helpin town all game, why start now?

Good on you, that's you being anti-town not me, you have just admited, that you won't protect a town PR.

So why is my anti-town better then you?

Also what if i am the NK? they could have wasted an NK, they don't know that unless they let me live, or kill me, i could have an important result, i could have nothing.

@Stubbs, did you lose your shot, or do you get to keep it since you were roleblocked?

Seriously guys, how is this rolefishing NOT MOTHER FUCKING SCUM?

Why is it any more likely that he would do that as scum as opposed to town? I can see the town motivation in asking for details so that he could get a better understanding of StubbsKVM's affiliation, and lock him into a claim so he can't wiggle out later if scum and can't adjust his claim for convenience as time goes by.

If scum have a roleblocker, it makes sense for scum to ask whether 1X abilities are lost upon a roleblock before they use that roleblock on a townie. I don't buy that LngrrrR and his team would roleblock Stubbs and then in the following day, demand to know whether the shot was used up.

It's more likely coming from scum, because of that thinking, it becomes WIFOM.

Why would scum not ask it? they need the info to know if they actually need to keep roleblocking.

Oh and you ignored my question .. Why didnt you mention your alignment in your claim?

I'm claiming, and i'm claiming town, why do i need to mention my alignment?

If i was a 3rd party THEN maybe i'd mention my alignment

Hey Jason, why don't you explain your scum read on Amrun?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: JasonWazza

Why don't you explain a good reason for voting me?

Hey Jason, why don't you explain your scum read on Amrun?

Yeah if I don't see this in his next post I'll vote too.

So many lurkers.

Good for you, why not persue things if people are lurking instead of just threatening a shitty vote?

Scummy

JasonWazza
* Town or scum he is playing a terrible game. Defensive, unhelpful, not asking questions, refusing to answer questions and not offering any credible explanation why.

So in other words, i'm not scummy, i'm just unhelpful, so why not make an actual case when you put me under scummy?

[JasonWazza]

Lockhart and being useless, sounds about right.

[JasonWazza]

So fuck my power.

[JasonWazza]

Yes i did, and it's virtually useless at this point now, and i'm sad.

[JasonWazza]

P_A went nowhere last night.

Result from night before: CDB stayed at home.

[JasonWazza]

Yeah it is, Stubbs was "roleblocked" so that isn't in play anymore.

So it's possible in a Vanilla Mafia, that P_A is just a goon.

[JasonWazza]

bah Stubbs was most likely lying about the roleblock, Jason he was scum after all...

I just said that.

Meh, I'm trying to puzzle out the actions you used, Jason, but it's probably best to leave that up in the air.

Leave it in the air, but it is kinda obvious which 2 i used.

[JasonWazza]

I just had a revelation: ffery, Stubbs team actually doesn't make a lot of sense although not impossible.
- I declare intent to hammer Stubbs.
- ffery says to wait for Nacho/Syr.
- Stubbs decides to hammer anyways to not allow Syr to come online and post.

Assuming they have daytalk which is likely considering that the previous Nexus game had daytalk, I can't see scum having such contradictory goals. ffery could have just said nothing and let me hammer if she wanted to stifle discussion. Why ask me to wait for her other buddy so that the one that was wagoned can self-hammer? Also I feel ffery would have hammered for the towncred rather than telling her scum-mate to hammer himself. This doesn't say as much about Nacho but I can't see ffery-Stubbs team.

You are going to get bitch slapped, i swear.

FF Scum and Stubbs scum QT scenario.

"Hey i'm trying to act town, so i will tell F-16 to not hammer and wait for Nacho, but since your scum and him talking is contradictory to our win condition as it gives people information, you should hammer yourself ASAP."

^ Extremely plausible, and even without Day talk, if stubbs thought he had no chance of winning, that was a no lose situation.

[JasonWazza]

small thought:
jason's voyeur is pretty much useless, but it can be used to confirm him as scum (since he's 100% not a scum JOAT).
F-16's fruit vendor is pretty much useless, but is a confirmable action that can be seen by voyeur, no? so jason sticks his voyeur down some place handy (preferably penguin_alien, so that other possible roles can use their action on someone who is not town). F-16 gives his fruit to penguin_alien OR someone else, jason claims what he saw. then f-16 or the fruit bearer can confirm/deny his claim; penguin has no real reason to lie or else she'll be power lynched the following day.

Bring it biatch, pick a target and i will tell you if they get fruited or not.

[JasonWazza]

[Dramatic overacting]Oh woe is me, all this WIFOM will be the obvious downfall for me[/Dramatic overacting]

Just pick a target, don't even make him answer a question like that.

[JasonWazza]

Post, honestly at this point i can't really find any motivation to post.

VOTE: Toomai

Feels like a good vote.

[JasonWazza]

Why did you ask if i was scum out of the entire player list? >.>

[JasonWazza]

I'll just put it out there that i don't like the way JS came in at all.

Of all people he could have addressed, he addressed the person that was pretty much conf-town, and it would take a small skim of the last few pages to check it and find out.

Not to mention on didn't even post on the page before.

JS just gives me scum feels right now.

UNVOTE: Toomai
VOTE: JacobSavage

[JasonWazza]

I didn't get prodded.

[JasonWazza]

UNVOTE: JacobSavage
VOTE: Toomai

Deadline/2nd choice.

[JasonWazza]

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Deadline is at 10pm BST Sunday 6th October 2013.

That's in uh...13 hours.

Those of you that are dumb fucks and are disbanding the fucking wagon, read the bolded.

[JasonWazza]

I'm very confused

[JasonWazza]

PA don't claim the fruit or no fruit yet i have something to hash out with the mod.

[JasonWazza]

PA don't claim the fruit or no fruit yet i have something to hash out with the mod.

Read this and wait

[JasonWazza]

a) P_A you didn't recieve fruit.
b) someone used an investigative action on P_A other then my Voyeur

[JasonWazza]

And you wondered why i was confused with my results you ass.

Wasn't P_A already confirmed not basilisk?

Also nacho who else did you clear?

[JasonWazza]

Well Draco wasn't all that bad in the Second Flim, where his father put riddles Diary into Ginny's books.

So it is quite possible that Draco is good at this point, but i wouldn't put it past him to be scum.

[JasonWazza]

Well Draco wasn't all that bad in the Second Flim, where his father put riddles Diary into Ginny's books.

So it is quite possible that Draco is good at this point, but i wouldn't put it past him to be scum.

This is very vague when someone has claimed Draco - am I scum?

The thing is, flavor wise, you could be, the key word being could.

However it's not such a thing that i would pursue right now, so why so worried?

[JasonWazza]

I'm only posing this because i am in a position where i can, but it needs to be posed, you COULD be scum.

[JasonWazza]

Sorry for getting replaced out guys.

Also IIRC i never actually said i used anything N1, i just said i wasted my N1 ability, and lied completely about using it.