Mini 1492: Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets GAME OVER

[StubbsKVM]

oriole, you town again?

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Fegelein, is there a specific reason you got that townread on channel?

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Jason, I don't really get what you're doing. Do you have any other reads besides Amrun?

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I'm having a hard time getting reads, but here's an attempt. Only slight scumreads on Jason for refusing to participate, Squilly for empty votes and Rach for having 2 reads. I'm having especially a lot of difficulty reading Amrun, so I just put him at null. LNG I think is just frustrated town.

Town

oriole
Fegelein

Leaning Town

ChannelDelibird
fferyllt
LnGrrrR

Null

Syryana
penguin_alien
Toomai
Amrun

Leaning Scum

JasonWazza
RachMarie
Squilly

Scum

N/A


P-Edit: Okay so Rach might be town too.

[StubbsKVM]

notice the p-edit?

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VOTE: Squilly

Jason, start participating!

[StubbsKVM]

Why is everyone being so conformist all of a sudden and posting big ol' lists of reads? StubbsKVM's is probably the scummiest.

I'm having a hard time getting reads, but here's an attempt. Only slight scumreads on Jason for refusing to participate, Squilly for empty votes and Rach for having 2 reads. I'm having especially a lot of difficulty reading Amrun, so I just put him at null. LNG I think is just frustrated town.

Town

oriole
Fegelein

Leaning Town

ChannelDelibird
fferyllt
LnGrrrR

Null

Syryana
penguin_alien
Toomai
Amrun

Leaning Scum

JasonWazza
RachMarie
Squilly

Scum

N/A


P-Edit: Okay so Rach might be town too.

How in the world do you have such a strong town read on oriole?

I like his reads list a lot. Maybe it's also because I want him to be town, because he's a great asset if he is.

V/la until sunday. I might pop in, or I might not.

[StubbsKVM]

Stubbs, what's your rationale for voting Squilly-slot over JasonWazza?

Pressure votes don't seem to work on Jason.

In addition, I'd like to point out that he changed Rach out of "leaning scum" SOLELY because she produced a list of reads, which shows that he associates it with towncred.

I don't. I think she's town because of LnG being on her town side. He reads as frustrated town to me, and I like the fact that I see it confirmed by someone else.

-Stubbs produces reads list out of thin air

True, if you read the first line, I admitted I was having a hard time getting proper reads. I hadn't done much at that time, and I felt the list could get me more involved in the game, if there was any reaction to come to it.

@Stubbs, why did you ask Oriole if he was town in your first post? When have you played with him before?

Only one finished game with him. I like him a lot as town, as I said before. If you want I can search it for you.

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His reads list makes almost no sense at all. I can see no reason to have different reads on me and Amrun by that stage, for example. The oriole townread is weird - says he likes his readslist but it's quite different to Stubbs's and the rest of it is because he

wants

him to be town? That's the sort of thing you make up after the fact to explain your behaviour, not that you actually use to inform your reads.[/url] Then there's the fact that he even made a readslist at all -

the fact that he's offered no actual opinions or even actual suspicion up to this point

mean that he can't be held accountable for the internal process of his reads and the fact that it comes after two other people just did (one of whom he is calling 'leaning scum' in that very post) makes it look like he's doing it to fit in, rather than because he wants to voice his opinion.

This (to Jason) is what you say to someone you're null on who you want to talk so that you can get a read, not someone you already suspect is scum for not participating. If Stubbs were town here, he'd just be calling Jason scum.[/url]

I have specified that I had trouble reading Amrun. I don't see why you two should be considered the same. Your scumhunting seemed more genuine than Amrun's. But I wasn't sure of it.
Oriole usually brings something new to the table, something others don't see or fail to mention. He did that in his reads list as well(his read on penguin alien, Toomai, me). I don't have a history of gathering people who have the same reads I have. I usually like those who give me good reasons to doubt my own reads better.

The reason I provided the reads list is exactly the bolded. I had trouble getting into the game.

I'm a bit weirded out by Jason's behaviour. My first game ever on this site, Jason was the one who was forcing everybody else to participate. The fact that he refuses to do so now, could mean he's scum, but it could also mean he's onto something with Amrun, as he claims.

[StubbsKVM]

I'm happy with my vote on Marquis. He's provided a vote on Rach because of meta reasons. And called Fegelein scum.

He hasn't even commented on anything that has happened in this game.

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Do you disbelieve his reason for not having commented on anyone else?

If his reason is correct, I'm wondering Why he replaced in at all?

[StubbsKVM]

Fair enough.

I'm Colin Creevey, Hogwarts-aligned JOAT.
Member of Griffyndor House and I want to protect Harry Potter from accusations(not sure why this is mentioned)

I have a 1-shot roleblock, 1-shot doc and 1-shot cop at my disposal.

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UNVOTE: Stubbs

Gut reaction says that seems like a role that Nexus would include, and unlikely to be something that scum would claim using the safe name of Colin Creevey.

It seems I may have been wrong. Will reconsider.

what do you think of Jason's sudden intent to hammer?

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Vote: Marquis

Frankly I feel JW has been more helpful.

How has Jason been more helpful?

Additionally, I will be pretty pissed if Marquis ends up getting replaced as well. It is still early enough to avoid a modkill, but I really dislike when a slot gets replaced multiple times.

I dislike this but I don't know why.

That's the problem. You don't seem to know anything about what's going on.

[StubbsKVM]

I'm going to agree with CDB about setup speculation and claim speculation. It'll sort itself out.

I'd still like to see more from Marquis...

Fegelein, good luck! Hope to see you again some day.

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It's what is mentioned in my role pm. To be honest I have no idea who Colin Creevey is. I can't say I remember him from the movies.

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Hangover prevents me from catching up.

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I was roleblocked last night :/

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Should I claim my action?
I have a theory, but it involves a lot of wine...

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Since there's so little going on, Ill share my results.

I've used my cop on Amrun. I wasn't getting a read on her, so I figured a result would at least get that out of the way.
Considering I stated on day 1 that I was having a hard time reading Amrun, I can't really think of anyone else who would have reasons to Roleblock me. Like I said, plenty of wine involved.

Thoughts?

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I still have it.

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Catch up will have to wait until tomorrow at best.

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Whenever I look back at the d1 posts I'm inclined to go back to my original read on the 2 JOATs. Although I don't like the way he plays, JasonWazza was a lot more forthcoming about his JOAT powers and abilities (post 310.) StubbsKVM has ignored all questions to expand on the "1-shot roleblock, 1-shot doc and 1-shot cop" claim (post 257.) No detail about the claimed roleblock (post 472,) but it does provide a convenient excuse for having no result.

Am I flip-flopping? Yeah, I suppose, but it seems to me most likely that 1 of the 2 JOATs is not town. (More likely than both being town, which is more likely than both are lying scum.) I just can't see how we could have the 3 town power roles in a 13-player game. Scum would have to have some serious firepower to balance it out.

I think I just reached the same conclusion as Toomai and RachMarie. VOTE: StubbsKVM

What exactly have I failed to expand on?
I don't see what more information you need.

I've given you my abilities, told you which one I used. I have told you I was roleblocked, because I got no result. I figured that was obvious.

As for the flavour of my role. That is what it says. Like I said, I don't really remember Colin Creevey from the movies, so I have no clue whether or not it makes sense or not.
I have given you all I have to offer claim-wise. I will admit I have not been very active, RL has claimed a lot more of my time. And it doesn't look like it's improving soon, so I'm not going to promise to be more active.

All I can offer is results from my actions.

[StubbsKVM]

I can still post once a day normally. Around this time pretty much every day. So I don't see the need to replace out.

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What, exactly, do you think stubbs could prove?

I can get a guilty cop result on someone? obviously...
I can RB a NK.

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Stubbs, can you name all your abilities?

read my claim. I have already done so.

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yes

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VOTE: StubbsKVM