Mini 1496: The Cash Cabd (Game Over)

[Daniel Bryan]

YES! YES! YES!

I'll most likely read this later.

[Daniel Bryan]

14 is pretty much just something that someone who doesnt like hydras would say, but I felt like all those "excuses" he isn't willing to accept is in anyway, feels like something to add more meat to the whole hydra hating thing, idk if you hate hydras then these things kinda don't need to be said anymore, its pretty obvious.
To answer your question, idk, it seems like you're willing to vote people on the virtue of them being a hydra, discounting dissonance or all those other things you wont tolerate as auto scum actions, thats the vibe i got.

In any case, its probably not alignment indicative that he hates hydras, but those questions seemed like they were there to give excuses to vote for hydras.

28 what? I thought you pretty much agreed with what he said earlier. You literally said that when the opinion was brought upon by someone else (SoS) so Im not convinced thats how you felt at first, its like you thought Poirot will give an opinion that would be favorable, and when it was questioned you back tracked immediately. You are my biggest suspect right now.

32 I dont get where she poopoo'd his strangeness, seems like a soft defense of Brian

37 thats an interesting claim. I take it you'll be more serious later on? If so, why claim PGO and not do anything else?

39 you liked his stance but you "never said you liked his questions" well why didnt you say that earlier? Your stance looked like you were in complete agreement with him. If you had a real problem with it, then you could have easily said those things on your first comment of his post

50 discrediting already? So like all early blips of suspicion are invalid?

57 a serious vote on someone who hadn't posted yet? Seems like a good way to show concern with "Serious vote" without actually taking a stance on anything. Scared?

83 great point, why dont ou just vote him seeing as he is your biggest suspect

84 pipebomb? Im sorry sir, I met CMPunk. I've trained with him for over 10 years. That. Was. Not. A. Pipebomb.

In all seriousness I that helped. It seemed more like a discredit than an actual attack. And youre talking about how not voting is like a scum tell, but youre not exactly voting for your suspect either.

86 kinda feels like "i dont want to look like we're having hydra dissonance because theres a player here who doesnt like hydras and has stated he wont accept dissonance as an excuse".

103 So if you dont vote Cynical and simply tell her to react or something, then she wont react. Its like "person A is scummy, but I'd rather not vote yet"

107 okay i think I like HP for town. Hs analysis on brian was spot on.

108 im not sure, i dont feel like theres much scum hunting going on here, or in any of rebel's posts for that matter, except for the point about Dessew.

116 its only been like 4 pages and youre already saying "im fine with being lynched"? Uhm, seems like an Appeal to Emotion right there. "Yah I dont care, just lynch me" during a time where no one is in any real danger of being lynched.

120 "You are both correct in thinking Im scummy" theres a level of self awareness I not liking here. Agree with your FuDuzn point but you saying youre scummy feels off to me. Like "I know it was scummy, hence im not scum"

125 i do think that yes, he could have just said that he doesnt like hydras, lists a few reasons why, then end it. I've said this too in this very ISO. But you did say nothing he said was alignment indicative, I would think you'd have other reasons to paint him as being scummy other than "his posts about hydras wasnt relevant". It makes it seem like he's doing something when he really isnt is something that would matter if he kept saying this later in the game but as it comes to early posting, its not really the case here.

126 im feeling Mario town, I like the analysis of the HC random feg vote about being under the radar, especially when HC did find something scummy about someone else.

131 when do you plan on doing something? What did you hope to achieve with a PGO claim?

133 yes but youre more likely to get a reaction from active people. People like Feg, may have just been inactive, they may have not read the thread as much. Putting a vote on someone who doesnt even participate or a person who hasnt read up, is a good way to put a vote without giving away info

135 thats my line.

In one post you were okay with being lynched, which felt like an Appeal to Emotion. In this one, youre like "blood will be over sheep" i feel like youre flailing.

143 I actually have no idea why you read that game instead of just commenting here. Or just ASK him to explain what happened. And you saying all this is like you questioning his own stance on his own game. This posts in off itself seems like a bad discredit attempt. Why use a bad game? Because he had a bad game with hydras. Duhh.

Okay so my early scum reads are Brian, FuDuzn and HC
Leaning scum on Dessew

Im getting town vibes from HP, Rebel, Mario and SoS
Rail is null leaning town.

VOTE: FuDuzn

Anyone else feeling Brian scum?

[Daniel Bryan]

proddodge

I will be busy today, will post later

[Daniel Bryan]

Well its ironic that Rail Tracer has been accusing HP of hiding behind the hydra discussion when the attempts at scumhunting are there and the only reason HP keeps talking about hydras is because Rail Tracer keeps bringing them up. Makes sense? Also, what is iioa?

Ik Brian, whats problematic here is that you initially didnt say anything about his hydra statement until people said they didnt agree with some of it, your post agreeing to a part of it looks like it supports the whole statement.

Idk what it is, but I feel like notscience is too agreeable here, Im getting a light scum read on his slot. I dont like his attack on kitty by saying that they have 14 posts, ergo they must be scum.
I think he may have a point about Dessew but Im having a gut scum read on him.

[Daniel Bryan]

I don't find his catch-up post scummy, it has some good points, and I can see the reasons why he reads me scum. It's true that I have only 1 scumread so far, the rest is null and town, and if Fu's posts are really so goddamn town, I haven't done much in this game. The other part of his reasoning is my meta, which is just fine, I guess. I don't understand his #234, though, I'd like to read more about it.

"I can see the reason why he calls me scum"

Yeaahh, Im doubting my scum read on Dessew..

[Daniel Bryan]

Idk what it is, but I feel like notscience is too agreeable here, Im getting a light scum read on his slot. I dont like his attack on kitty by saying that they have 14 posts, ergo they must be scum.

Why do you feel the need to bring this up, after Ns's #231?

There's an off feeling about his posts. I've seen ns in a game to get a grasp at his meta and he is usually uhm, less serious(?) when he is town. Thats why I felt his posts were odd.

Now I believe he said he's changing his meta, so I dont think this would make much sense

Well its ironic that Rail Tracer has been accusing HP of hiding behind the hydra discussion when the attempts at scumhunting are there and the only reason HP keeps talking about hydras is because Rail Tracer keeps bringing them up. Makes sense?

Explain how this affects your read on Rail Tracer.

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Because i dont feel like he's scum hunting as much as he is trying to discredit HP.

[Daniel Bryan]

280 Im having problems with the read list because it mostly gives null or leaning reads and no concrete town reads. But I think you're town, i just want to know why.

291 See my problem is the fact that he agreed to something at first without expressing doubt. Then later when other people come in and say something that is along the lines of "All that wasnt necessary" he comes in and agrees. If he really felt that way, he would have said so earlier.

301 Why are you not doing anything?

303 So why not just directly call us scum?

320 Again why mostly "leaning" reads and no hardline "SCUM" read. it feels like you dont want to call anyone scum.

VOTE: Brian Skies

So I have HP, Mario, Rebel and SoS as town
Null on Saki, HC and artemis
Leaning Scum on RT and FuDuzn
Scum in Brian, Dessew

Okay SoS, Im here. You wanted to talk to me?

[Daniel Bryan]

whoops, I thought I had you..

Leaning scum.

Rebel asked me how Rail's insistence on attacking HP for him calling out hydras made me affect his read on him.
I answer with "Because i dont feel like he's scum hunting as much as he is trying to discredit HP."

[Daniel Bryan]

Rebel

1. Yes. His questions are alignment indicative. I was calling him scummy for that
2. No idea what youre talking about
3. Well I've seen hydras who do vote without consent, then the other head retracts. So I thought it was odd for them to aboid the dissonance
4. Lol. We all have our own ways of hunting.
5. Its called Gut.
6 . Apparently suspicion always means painting negatively
7. I said it felt weird. But then I saw it in Dessew, so I thought again
8. No idea what this is supposed to attack
9. Its weird how my reads are supposed to be constant and cant change according to new situations. That my catch up read him town but apparently his current actions CANT change that
9. Because it shows a lack of commitment, a lack of conviction to call someone scum, like theyre scared.
10. Again, Gut.

But consider that gone, your case on me is bad. I felt like you had to blow up minor points to make me look bad.

[Daniel Bryan]

Its kinda weird that after you talk about other people, you suddenly vote me and explain it 27 posts later, Brian.

Nonetheless, what "superficial" thing have I commented on? Why is that scummy in itself?

[Daniel Bryan]

V/LA til Saturday

[Daniel Bryan]

VOTE: Rail Tracer

[Daniel Bryan]

We have no counterwagon on me. So, why am I scum? If I was scum, shouldnt I actually be against someone put up by my scumbuddies? Is this happening? Nope? Maybe its because Im town?

Also, if you do decide to lynch me today, rest assured theres at least 1 and possibly 2 scum on my wagon. Its very safe to jump here because you can just jump on my wagon without people batting an eye. So theres 1 scum already on it. And 1 will jump at the L-1 or hammer.
Then I flip town and you guys analyze my wagon.

Or, better idea. You'll realize that Im not scum and lynch Rail Tracer

[Daniel Bryan]

So you think my statements are obvious, yet think Im scum?

Yeah, I think Nat is scum.

Lol, apathetic scum? Lol, you wish.

[Daniel Bryan]

YES! YES! YES! (This shtick might get old soon, lol)

Great game town.

I do feel bad that I was the only mislynch.. But you guys recovered greatly after that.