A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?


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Post Post #642 (isolation #0) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:57 am

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In post 639, Cephrir wrote:Messiah's entrance is kinda scummy for me, don't care for the note formatting as they don't feel like how a townie would keep their notes, but I do agree with their vote and assessment of SM. Why no special mention of Garuk if one of your heads is apparently scumreading half their posts- just because that head isn't the one posting?
How would a townie keep notes? I read through the game and mentioned posts that leaned one direction or the other.

Pretty much yeah.
In post 640, Cephrir wrote:Forgot to mention- method of attacking SM is kind of robotic (because that's every post he's made, even though neither of you had notes about 2 of his posts on initial read) even if the points it makes are solid.
It's robotic because most of the points made are also reiteration. If I had left a naked vote would you be questioning that format as well?

I'm not sure why you're going out of your way to be suspect of the formatting of the post when you agree with the content. What's up with that?

Also your recent interaction with Thor is really really scummy. You don't care for his playstyle so you're just shutting down completely? Grow up.
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Post Post #643 (isolation #1) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 10:58 am

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Mollie I think you're making it up in your head. Thor isn't presenting his claim that way at all and this isn't similar to Reck in RW.

Vote Stup with me?

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Post Post #648 (isolation #2) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 11:31 am

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In post 647, Cephrir wrote:With more detail than "post X is scummy".
Do you think either of us can't answer why any particular post pinged one way or the other or what?

And my point is that you're cheerleading my vote + content on Stup but you're a) not voting them with me and b) slinging suspicion based on post formation. Talking out of both sides of your mouth, if you will.
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Post Post #1010 (isolation #3) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:45 am

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In post 1005, Cephrir wrote:I did not put down your case. I think it is well-reasoned but also that the way you went about it was scummy. If he flips scum, I will suspect you marginally less. I will have that same argument with Thor every day, you still have to answer accusations that aren't great- and more importantly my issue was that he cherry picked the even worse ones to make her look bad. I don't know what you mean about playing both sides but if you're expecting strong stances out of me on day 1 you're not going to get any.
I'm pretty sure you did but looking back the posts were referring to multiple people so I may have read it wrong. What were you referring to you when you said this?
In post 851, Cephrir wrote:I also mentioned earlier that I agreed with the thrust of Messiah's case on SM.

The case just isn't very persuasive or strong, nor does it look like it could plausibly convince anyone.
I'm not really looking for strong stances, just consistent ones. If you thought most of Elle's concerns weren't valid, I don't understand why you thought you had to attack Thor for not answering them. If you think our case is well reasoned, I don't understand why you would go out of your way to undermine it (by scumreading us for the formatting of our notes) and then sheep it later anyway.
In post 1005, Cephrir wrote:I don't see the issue with the first point here, but the second is better. It amuses me that you're agreeing with Stupendousman here. I agree with you about him while scumreading you and I'm scum, but you're allowed to agree with his Zdenek case enough to vote on it?
I don't think Stup is scum anymore. How does this affect your amusement level?

@ Stup: Already did. What's the rest of your scumpool look like?
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Post Post #1832 (isolation #4) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:37 am

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In post 1828, Garruk Relentless wrote:The lack of deaths last night is worrisome to me. I haven't figured out how to parse it yet--I need to see today's end first before I can start setup speccing in full.

And, Tammy, I have strong reason to suspect that Tierce is town. Don't want to go into more detail at the moment, but, yeah. I refuse to support that lynch today.

Good with both Amrun and Ooba though.
:igmeou:

Really not liking all of these people who ended up on Thor that are good with both Amrun and ooba as well.
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Post Post #2587 (isolation #5) » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:38 am

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In post 2552, Nautilius wrote:{SpyreX, Zdenek, The Alchemist, AGar, Goat on a Raft, Garruk Relentless}

this is pretty much my kill group in order
You're inside my head. The only name on this list whose death I would oppose is AGar. And maybe Alchemist, but that's mostly curiosity.

How did Goat end up on this list though?
In post 2552, Nautilius wrote:{SpyreX, Zdenek, The Alchemist, AGar, Goat on a Raft, Garruk Relentless}

this is pretty much my kill group in order
You're inside my head. The only name on this list whose death I would oppose is AGar. And maybe Alchemist, but that's mostly curiosity.

How did Goat end up on this list though?
In post 2539, elleheathen wrote: Yeah, I hear ya.

But do you actually think my 'pussy footing around with Thor D1' did 'jack shit for anyone' either, when a good portion of the group here admitted to not only ignoring what was in it but not even reading it? A theme that seemed to be carried into Day 2 since most of my questions went unanswered and my arguments about Zdenek and kanye ignored.

So yeah, admittedly - I've become disengaged.

So why is it more questionable that despite the fact that I've already said
why
I feel like he should be lynched and
why
I'm on the wagon than those that haven't?

You seem to dislike my comment on the procrastination going on in reference to all those that haven't taken a stand and are just sitting back prod dodging as time ticks by so that we're put into yet another loldeadline situation. We have 4 people that aren't even voting and another 4 on solo votes - a good majority of those that aren't doing crap all. Yet
I'm
the one not helping you?

Welp. It is what is it, then.
It's more questionable because you're posting to show that you're still here but you aren't actually doing anything. Popping in to walk through the thread of a lynch-spy picket sign is actively making it more difficult to get him lynched, because it makes you look lazy and it makes the wagon look less appealing to undecideds. So if you want to help, and you're going to call out other people who you feel are procrastinating, then you either need to start scumhunting those people, or put more effort into getting Spy lynched.
In post 2579, Zdenek wrote:When did you start town reading Nautilus?
Around the time Nacho started obvtowning all over the thread. Did you miss all that?

@ AGar: OK, thank you for the explanation. We will lynch Zdenek with you if Spyrex can't become a reality.

@ Spyrex: Yeah, pretty much. That's how the game goes. What would you expect me to do if you flipped town, crawl into a hole?

@ Ooba: Too scummy to be scum? Nah. That's exactly the kind of person who should be today's lynch if we mistakenly let Spyrex escape this. Your other points on Spy are good though, because I feel like other players are consistently misinterpreting what we are saying. Even Spy in 2574 is still pushing the erroneous "You think this hammer could ONLY come from scum" when our argument is much more nuanced than that--this
particular
hammer can only come from scum because town-Spyrex whose role requires him to hammer people in order to access his ability had several, infinitely more protown options available to him in that situation and he said "fuck that, let's give the town the least amount of information possible."
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Post Post #3977 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:02 pm

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In post 3775, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 2476, quadz08 wrote:
In post 2452, StupendousMan wrote:I'm thinking Zed might be a better lynch.
Why?
In post 2468, Goat on a Raft wrote:In other news,
Unvote: Spyrex
Vote: elleheathen
Why?

I support the SpyreX wagon but like my lonely vote on Nautilius better for now.

I thiiiiink I'm ok with the Zdenek wagon as well, but need to pay more attention to him to make sure I still think he's scum. He's fallen off the radar for me, but it's more because I haven't been paying as much attention to his posts that anything else.
this is a pretty dang gross post if you think abt it w. spyscum and inno goat in mind.
In post 3857, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 3576, Eddard Stark wrote:
quadz08 (9) -
ooba, Shadoweh, Messiah Complex, Cephrir, Titus, Goat on a Raft, Garruk Relentless, Tierce, AGar
In post 3852, Eddard Stark wrote:
quadz08 (2) -
Shadoweh, kanyesknowsbest
some 1 pls tell me wth.why did this wagon crumble after such a flimsy claim? whos the scum here who were bussing but then thought better of it when town showed interest elsewhere?
In post 3858, kanyeknowsbest wrote:like the way he handled safetydances roleblock is not at all from the perspective of someone who was roleblocked that night. he would want to know whether or not sd was the one who roleblocked him or if there was the possibility of a scum roleblocker or jk in the game.
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