A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

PrideandJoy · Post Post #9 (isolation #0) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 10:20 am

hey so i'm town but dan is scum
it's weird I know right

Vote: ActionDan

PrideandJoy · Post Post #29 (isolation #1) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:27 am

In post 25, Eddard Stark wrote:#9 in the future please use the hydra name when voting.

But I only wanna vote for the scum head

PrideandJoy · Post Post #41 (isolation #2) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:42 am

I'm usually really good at getting early (like, by page 5, accurate) townreads. But I'm not getting like, any yet.
This is disconcerting.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #46 (isolation #3) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:45 am

In post 44, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 41, PrideandJoy wrote:I'm usually really good at getting early (like, by page 5, accurate) townreads. But I'm not getting like, any yet.
This is disconcerting.
usually when im scum i just sort of fake em, works well enoyugh for me

I'm not scum tho, only actiondan is man
we've been through this!

PrideandJoy · Post Post #49 (isolation #4) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:47 am

See this is why I'm not getting a townread on kanye despite like, the person usually filling that role being town and getting the early townread >.<

PrideandJoy · Post Post #54 (isolation #5) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:50 am

In post 51, Garruk Relentless wrote:
In post 41, PrideandJoy wrote:I'm usually really good at getting early (like, by page 5, accurate) townreads. But I'm not getting like, any yet.
This is disconcerting.
Why mention townreads early?

RVS+early game post townreads are my thing. To a lesser extent I've read people as scum accurately from their first 3-5 posts in a game before as well.
But this game is an exception in that I'm getting a lot of not understanding motivations for a lot of actions, and it's screwing with my early reads. I like my early reads, I felt it noteworthy to mention.

Pedit: If it's not an obvious dan post, it's a chesskid post on this one.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #56 (isolation #6) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:50 am

In post 52, kanyeknowsbest wrote:hes trying to setup to scumread me and push the wagon away from him. dont mind him.

I'm not scumreading you. I'm just not townreading you, when based on post 10 I was expecting to quickly form a nice solid townread there.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #60 (isolation #7) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:53 am

In post 58, Cephrir wrote:as far as I'm concerned you aren't really a hydra.

ouch.

meanie

PrideandJoy · Post Post #64 (isolation #8) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:54 am

In post 59, Garruk Relentless wrote:
In post 54, PrideandJoy wrote:
In post 51, Garruk Relentless wrote:
In post 41, PrideandJoy wrote:I'm usually really good at getting early (like, by page 5, accurate) townreads. But I'm not getting like, any yet.
This is disconcerting.
Why mention townreads early?
RVS+early game post townreads are my thing. To a lesser extent I've read people as scum accurately from their first 3-5 posts in a game before as well.
But this game is an exception in that I'm getting a lot of not understanding motivations for a lot of actions, and it's screwing with my early reads. I like my early reads, I felt it noteworthy to mention.

Pedit: If it's not an obvious dan post, it's a chesskid post on this one.
So you wouldn't want to publically acknowledge any of them, right?

-SSK

I usually don't have an issue with having open reads. If I had any solid reads one way or another, I wouldn't have any issue sharing them, no.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #66 (isolation #9) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:55 am

In post 61, Cephrir wrote:
In post 56, PrideandJoy wrote:
In post 52, kanyeknowsbest wrote:hes trying to setup to scumread me and push the wagon away from him. dont mind him.
I'm not scumreading you. I'm just not townreading you, when based on post 10 I was expecting to quickly form a nice solid townread there.
Are reads that early often accurate for you? (If so, I'm impressed)

Townreads yes
scumreads no

PrideandJoy · Post Post #67 (isolation #10) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:56 am

Not that they're terrible, but
the scumreads are essentially crapshoots and I've had some really nice early catches before that have been reinforced by later play
and i've had some shit reads that have put me into deathtunnels for a day or two before.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #68 (isolation #11) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 11:56 am

Fortunately Dan's around this game (at least if he ever stops being on vacation) to help me mesh through shit. I do enjoy hydraing.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #76 (isolation #12) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:01 pm

No, not really. There's always obvtown. There's always the worry of protective roles. It's also always nice to have obvtown.

Not at all. If I'm townreading someone early they're 95%+ likely to be town
if I'm scumreading someone early they're only say 50%+ to be scum
so one is a lot more useful than the other

Pedit: If you're town show it, Tierce, don't come in with a weak chainsaw

PrideandJoy · Post Post #115 (isolation #13) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:56 pm

In post 97, Tammy wrote:Prideandjoy you're not going to be winning any tourneys with those types of posts. We value strength around here.

oh no what will i do

PrideandJoy · Post Post #118 (isolation #14) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 12:59 pm

hmm that's good enough for a vote

Unvote

vote: elleheathen

PrideandJoy · Post Post #120 (isolation #15) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:01 pm

In post 116, elleheathen wrote:'OHEYTHISGUYHASNTLOGGEDINYET. MUSTBEAWIGHT!'

PrideandJoy · Post Post #124 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:02 pm

PeaceBringer I made you a hat

PrideandJoy · Post Post #130 (isolation #17) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:06 pm

In post 121, PeaceBringer wrote:oh and this is your day 1 vote on someone who has not posted and you are pushing the lynch.

I've clearly posted. So that's why you got the hat.

It's fairly obvious why there was/is a wagon on me. Am I supposed to care or something?

PrideandJoy · Post Post #132 (isolation #18) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:07 pm

In post 116, elleheathen wrote:'OHEYTHISGUYHASNTLOGGEDINYET. MUSTBEAWIGHT!'

In post 116, elleheathen wrote: MUSTBEAWIGHT!'

In post 116, elleheathen wrote:'WIGHT!'

PrideandJoy · Post Post #141 (isolation #19) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:10 pm

I dislike 20 page RVSes. I set the groundwork, the voters came in, and blam we're out of RVS. Shake your head all you want, it serves a necessary function.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #142 (isolation #20) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:10 pm

Holy pedit wagon formation batman

PrideandJoy · Post Post #146 (isolation #21) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:13 pm

For the record, the intensity with which you were pushing a wagon someone with your experience should know is on someone more likely town than not was why you were giving me :badvibes:

The last 3 pages have been quite a bit nicer for content/preliminary reads/etc.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #150 (isolation #22) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:15 pm

[quote="In post 145, elleheathen"][/quote]
lol that change.

@Kanye: That is to say, pushing it would be good for getting out of RVS. Seeming hellbent on it was what was weird, etc.

pedit: lol ok

PrideandJoy · Post Post #154 (isolation #23) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:17 pm

In post 0, Eddard Stark wrote:

Players of the Game

Alfred Borden (Empire/Llamarble)

Amrun

Andrius

Benmage

Cephrir

elleheathen

Garuk Relentless (Natarisha/MafiaSSK)

Goat on a Raft (Channeldelibird/AurorusVox)

kanyeknowsbest

macmollie (pirate mollie/Mac)

Messiah Complex (Desperado/Formerfish)

Nautilius (Nacho/Ellibereth)

ooba

PeaceBringer

Prideandjoy(chesskid3/ActionDan)

quadz08

SafetyDance

Shadoweh

StupendousMan

Syryana

Tammy

Thor665

Tierce

Zdenek

Spoiler: Protecting the Realm

[*]Alfred Borden (Empire/Llamarble)
[*]Amrun
[*]Andrius
[*]Benmage
[*]Cephrir
[*]elleheathen
[*]Garuk Relentless (Natarisha/MafiaSSK)
[*]Goat on a Raft (Channeldelibird/AurorusVox)
[*]kanyeknowsbest
[*]macmollie (pirate mollie/mac)
[*]Messiah Complex (Desperado/Formerfish)
[*]Nautilius (Nacho/Ellibereth)
[*]ooba
[*]PeaceBringer
[*]Prideandjoy(chesskid3/ActionDan)
[*]quadz08
[*]SafetyDance
[*]Shadoweh
[*]StupendousMan
[*]Syryana
[*]Tammy
[*]Thor665
[*]Tierce
[*]Zdenek
[/spoiler]

Spoiler: Consigned to the History Books

Spoiler: Important moments

you should probably learn these names

PrideandJoy · Post Post #155 (isolation #24) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:18 pm

In post 152, Cephrir wrote:chesskid and Tierce are probably town; I thought Shadoweh was town but 149 is not so good.

Tierce and Goat's interaction was interesting. As far as early vibes go it felt like different alignments. But i'm unsure as to which.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #158 (isolation #25) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:21 pm

I'm chesskid

PrideandJoy · Post Post #161 (isolation #26) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:22 pm

[quote="In post 145, elleheathen"][/quote]
wight = dead slot

rather than the obvious wight = scum connotation it looked like you were trying to fake to me. *shrug*

I'll move my vote when you do pro-town things.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #162 (isolation #27) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:22 pm

JESUS WHY WONT THAT QUOTE

PrideandJoy · Post Post #172 (isolation #28) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:39 pm

In post 169, Tammy wrote:Actiondan can you hurry up and get your ass in here and tell me what shadoweh's alignment is? Please and thank you.

k so if you're listening to dan's read on shadoweh that would imply not having a scumread on us
and yet your vote is still parked

hmm

PrideandJoy · Post Post #177 (isolation #29) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 1:43 pm

Well then since RVS is over you should move your vote to someone you are reading as scummy.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #211 (isolation #30) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 2:38 pm

In post 208, Tammy wrote:Also, it's a upick. In upicks faraday decides roles before alignments. So a scum team of wights is really really low on the possibility scale.

This is why I find it scummy.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #219 (isolation #31) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:11 pm

Pride is chesskid
joy is actiondan

come on
Princeton's Pride
Princeton's Joy

PrideandJoy · Post Post #232 (isolation #32) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:26 pm

In post 231, chesskid3 wrote:
In post 230, Amrun wrote:and no actiondan.

This is indicative of scum on both of their parts.
brb loling

PrideandJoy · Post Post #234 (isolation #33) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:35 pm

So I've got a minute, so I'll entertain.

Point #1: Your post generated a wagon and got the game out of RVS, but it felt awkward so I'm gonna say it was scummy
Point #2: ActionDan isn't in a thread that's been open for ~hours and he's on vacation so hasn't been posting onsite for the last few days with any frequency is a scumtell.

Wat.

Point #3:

In post 43, Goat on a Raft wrote:UNVOTE: StupendousMan, VOTE: Cephrir

Cephrir could have joined kanye in getting the game started. He didn't.

In post 50, Tierce wrote:
In post 34, Shadoweh wrote:Man this sucks. Tierce, you picked a badass woomens like Tyene Sand or something, right?
Badass woomens all day long, dear. Aerion Brightflame the Fabulous was my first pick.

VOTE: Goat on a Raft

How dare Cephrir not jumpstart the game on page 1.

This is a chainsaw, welcome to mafia 101, you are currently running a C in the course please bring your grade up Amrun

Point #4: So, not spelling out exactly that the wagon on me was essentially an RVS wagon to get the game going, and thus ruin the remaining efficacy it had was scummy cool thanks.
And being unconcerned about ~5 votes on me is also scummy ok. I'm lowering your grade to a D gonna need some serious extra credit Amrun.

The rest of your post is similarly griping about things that are non-issues to make attacks and seem threatening. You can go in the scumpile, congrats.

Pedit: I'm sticking with my ellasomething vote for now, because there's more to be gleaned from it, but Amrun is a good vote, yes.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #235 (isolation #34) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:37 pm

Mainly because since being voted, all Ella has done is react to her wagon, not scumhunt at all.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #239 (isolation #35) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:45 pm

A chainsaw is a convient label for a defense of that type. It's alignment relevant, and certainly an odd entrance, which is why I pointed it out. A chainsaw doesn't magically become something else if it's not from scum, it's still a chainsaw.

So. Walk me through this. As scum, I decide to make a post that I, (being a smart and experienced enough mafia player), know will result in ~pressure on me. Then, I feel the pressure and decide to fake nonchalance? That's this game? Really?

In what WAY was I unconcerned that was scummy, pray tell? Or is all you can throw around buzzwords.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #241 (isolation #36) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:49 pm

In post 240, Garruk Relentless wrote:Hey, Amrun, you're misrepping
us
a little-

Just so.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #242 (isolation #37) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:49 pm

In post 241, PrideandJoy wrote:
In post 240, Garruk Relentless wrote:Hey, Amrun, you're misrepping
us
everyone a little-
Just so.

goddamnit was suppoesd to say this

PrideandJoy · Post Post #245 (isolation #38) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:51 pm

You're being a sucksack
The far more likely reaction to a role pm in this game is rage

PrideandJoy · Post Post #249 (isolation #39) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:55 pm

In post 247, Tierce wrote:Good grief quadz is turning into MoI.

MoI would never call me town
disaster is averted

PrideandJoy · Post Post #252 (isolation #40) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:58 pm

Mine was rage. I chose my character list with certain "natural" roles for them in mind
I was not pleased. *shrug*
I feel this is the more likely reaction because of either this, or not getting first choice

Pedit: Ok so if that's not a buzzword
then....

PrideandJoy · Post Post #253 (isolation #41) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:59 pm

In post 251, Amrun wrote:
In post 239, PrideandJoy wrote:A chainsaw is a convient label for a defense of that type. It's alignment relevant, and certainly an odd entrance, which is why I pointed it out. A chainsaw doesn't magically become something else if it's not from scum, it's still a chainsaw.

So. Walk me through this. As scum, I decide to make a post that I, (being a smart and experienced enough mafia player), know will result in ~pressure on me. Then, I feel the pressure and decide to fake nonchalance? That's this game? Really?

In what WAY was I unconcerned that was scummy, pray tell? Or is all you can throw around buzzwords.
Obviously, that wouldn't be the intentional plan. Most people seem to think you weathered the pressure well, regardless; my opinion is unpopular. So it's not as if you TOTALLY BLEW IT, but I feel like there was an underpinning of awkwardness, as I said.

And come off this buzzword shit. I literally quoted the post that I said felt like that.

In post 240, Garruk Relentless wrote:Hey, Amrun, you're misrepping us a little--we did random vote Goat on a Raft like three posts later. And you can hardly expect us to not be a bit self-vote shy when we have a super-hated modifier.
I know that you did, but it was not in THAT POST, which said to me that you were more concerned with perceptions of YOU than anything else, and then you were like "oh crap, better vote." This mindset is something that comes from scum far more often. And sure, being self-vote shy is absolutely understandable, but then why self-vote in the first place? Scum are a lot more likely to open the game with those type of awkward jokes (see Frequency in the recent Baltomeet game modded by our same lovely mods, for example).

This post feels awkward.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #254 (isolation #42) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 3:59 pm

Notice how I didn't explain anything and I just threw around a buzzword and I get to fake a read?

PrideandJoy · Post Post #259 (isolation #43) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:04 pm

So how would town me answer the question?

You've seen me play enough games, my reaction to perceived stupidity is increased disdain/hostility. That's alignment independent, and then there's not giving a fuck which looks like textbook chesskid town to me.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #262 (isolation #44) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:07 pm

So how would town chesskid have answered that question

what were you expecting that you didn't get

PrideandJoy · Post Post #264 (isolation #45) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:09 pm

alrighty then

PrideandJoy · Post Post #270 (isolation #46) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:21 pm

oh dear god please no

PrideandJoy · Post Post #279 (isolation #47) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:42 pm

PrideandJoy · Post Post #280 (isolation #48) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 4:42 pm

PrideandJoy · Post Post #287 (isolation #49) » Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:18 pm

In post 277, Eddard Stark wrote:PrideandJoy (3) - elleheathen,
Tammy
, Amrun

I read 3 pages.

It is now page 12.

Why is this vote here?

bbl

PrideandJoy · Post Post #340 (isolation #50) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:19 am

ball so hard got a broke clock
rolleys that don't tick tock
audemars thats losin time
hidden behind all these big rocks
gold bottles
scold models
spillin Ace on my sick J's

PrideandJoy · Post Post #341 (isolation #51) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:20 am

look you need to crawl before you ball
come and meet me in the bathroom stall
and show me why you deserve to have it allll

PrideandJoy · Post Post #342 (isolation #52) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:21 am

In other news where the hell is ooba's head at/reads coming from someone please explain me
I do not comprehend

PrideandJoy · Post Post #348 (isolation #53) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:00 am

You never quote posts of mine

I take it from that wall that there's no juicy townread on chesskid eh?

PrideandJoy · Post Post #352 (isolation #54) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 10:29 am

In post 351, Cephrir wrote:If something convincing comes along I may move my vote, but everything else I have is pretty insubstantial and gut-based at this point.

good to see we're not the only ones

PrideandJoy · Post Post #460 (isolation #55) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:50 pm

Unvote

Vote: ooba

PrideandJoy · Post Post #466 (isolation #56) » Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:10 pm

Whats the list brobeans

scum?

PrideandJoy · Post Post #546 (isolation #57) » Thu Sep 19, 2013 8:18 am

Speaking of KKB, where has he been?

Also, I'm not scumreading Thor but am I the only one who doesn't buy the "lol Casso" claim

PrideandJoy · Post Post #571 (isolation #58) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:33 am

In post 561, PeaceBringer wrote:you now are on the needs to be watched list

you know what this is

bite it

PrideandJoy · Post Post #572 (isolation #59) » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:34 am

In post 570, Nautilius wrote:hey hey he's a special 2013

oh god not again

PrideandJoy · Post Post #785 (isolation #60) » Sat Sep 21, 2013 9:33 am

I'm pretty fucking swamped until Wednesday. I'll try to read the last 10 pages tomorrow or something but it'd be nice if dan got his ass back from vacation

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1056 (isolation #61) » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:50 pm

prodded. Chesskid been slacking it seems.

Still on Vacation; Thursday I'll be able to be more active.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1109 (isolation #62) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:49 am

sigh

proddodge

I'm going to kill dan. I've got 2 psets and 2 coding assignments due by Wednesday at midnight, so if fucking dan hasn't shown up to do anything I'll post thursday

-I'm a scrub.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1111 (isolation #63) » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:51 am

In post 1056, PrideandJoy wrote:prodded. Chesskid been slacking it seems.

Still on Vacation; Thursday I'll be able to be more active.

fuck you dan

PrideandJoy · Thu Sep 26, 2013 10:08 am

I will do this I am sorry
please don't vig us

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1487 (isolation #65) » Sat Sep 28, 2013 6:49 am

whee it's the weekend

i'm here
I fucking LOVE our position on the ooba wagon though
2nd vote
man that's sweet
so probably not moving the vote
(also he struck me as scum so)

Going to selectively read because I'm a lazy asshole and I don't like reading ~40? pages of shit i haven't read. ANything important I should make sure to read?

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1521 (isolation #66) » Sun Sep 29, 2013 7:33 am

In post 1502, Tammy wrote:
In post 1487, PrideandJoy wrote:whee it's the weekend

i'm here
I fucking LOVE our position on the ooba wagon though
2nd vote
man that's sweet
so probably not moving the vote
(also he struck me as scum so)

Going to selectively read because I'm a lazy asshole and I don't like reading ~40? pages of shit i haven't read. ANything important I should make sure to read?
Please read shadoweh?

That was the other head (Chesskid) but I'll make this day a priority and give some kind of assessment on some players. I suppose the priority since 2 days left is to read up on the 3 wagonned people. will do. will take time.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1572 (isolation #67) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 7:46 am

In post 1565, ooba wrote:I hate this D1.

Unvote. Vote: SafetyDance.

L-3
SafetyDance (10) - Alfred Borden, Syryana, Garruk Relentless, Cephrir, Tammy, Shadoweh, displaced, Tierce, Nautilius, ooba
With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

I don't even have to read the thread to know that this is a scum post.

The relief that someone town is miraculously getting lynched instead of their scum self is smattered harder on this post than the amount of goat cheese I apply to bagels. Which is a lot.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1573 (isolation #68) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:16 am

Shadoweh, I call on the power of friendship to make you change your vote Ooba. Or shall I regale you with a friendship speech?

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1574 (isolation #69) » Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:16 am

That also goes for every other last one of you blokes

PrideandJoy · Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:27 am

I will though there's no way I can read all of it, and I wonder if I will be able to even read the 3 wagons; still, I know a scum post when I see one. And I saw Ooba's post with 20/20 vision.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1750 (isolation #71) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:23 am

I just isoed Garruk.

He seems pretty town. I'm pretty surprised that there are 5 people voting him. (although it's listed as him voting himself??)

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1751 (isolation #72) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:26 am

In post 1723, Amrun wrote:Well, shit, my vote needs to be productive.

VOTE: ooba

Preferable vote out of leading wagons.

In post 1726, Amrun wrote:Err, possibly.

Honestly, I'm p sure you're town, so I'll throw you a bone while I make a mad dash to catch up and probably fail cuz got class soon.

VOTE: garruk

What is this Maloney?

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1756 (isolation #73) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 3:38 am

In post 1755, ActionDan wrote:good man

^me

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1762 (isolation #74) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 5:40 am

In post 1761, elleheathen wrote:The worst case scenario is we lose a miller that would have to be lynched at some point anyway.

false.

What crap meta are people learning these days.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1766 (isolation #75) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 6:19 am

In post 1763, Nautilius wrote:
In post 1564, Thor665 wrote:You don't think that deserves attention?
Maybe an offhanded comment, but it's not the type of thing that's worth a wagon and a possible lynch.

I'm not sure where I want to go right now.

please Ooba.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1784 (isolation #76) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:35 am

I'm doing no lynch or Ooba lynch. Clearly if two quick wagons on SD and Garruk come like this and both are town this lynch is suckville. Also If Thor somehow suspected amrun previously than I don't want to lynch him.

Chesskid might come and slap me but w/e.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1785 (isolation #77) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:37 am

I mean ooba is the only one I (chesskid) think could be scum

but I may hammer if I'm around...day one nl is awful

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1790 (isolation #78) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:41 am

those 2 votes are town reluctance.

Because probably Thor is town

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1791 (isolation #79) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:42 am

the ooba wagon died or something because people suddenly developed a slight town lean on him. somehow.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1793 (isolation #80) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:43 am

Also Shadoweh you're scum aren't you.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1797 (isolation #81) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:45 am

In post 1788, chesskid3 wrote:summarize for me
why the fuck ooba wagon died

who fuckign bitched out onto the bs wagons

Also SD is town that would be why he towntold tammy

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1801 (isolation #82) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 7:47 am

I leave the rest to Chesskid. I have to go.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1809 (isolation #83) » Tue Oct 01, 2013 8:10 am

HERES MY CHANCE
TO TAKE ELLI'S JOB OF
PROFESSIONAL
SCUM
HAMMERER

BIG BUCKS
NO WHAMMIES

VOTE: THOR

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1824 (isolation #84) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:21 am

Vote: Amrun

we will join Ooba wagon if that becomes the more dominant, but we're good voting either.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1836 (isolation #85) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:41 am

In post 1830, Messiah Complex wrote: PEdit: PNJ's 1824 is really yucky. Why are Amrun and Ooba scum?

- Des

In post 1751, PrideandJoy wrote:
In post 1723, Amrun wrote:Well, shit, my vote needs to be productive.

VOTE: ooba

Preferable vote out of leading wagons.

In post 1726, Amrun wrote:Err, possibly.

Honestly, I'm p sure you're town, so I'll throw you a bone while I make a mad dash to catch up and probably fail cuz got class soon.

VOTE: garruk
What is this Maloney?

In post 1565, ooba wrote:I hate this D1.

Unvote. Vote: SafetyDance.

L-3
SafetyDance (10) - Alfred Borden, Syryana, Garruk Relentless, Cephrir, Tammy, Shadoweh, displaced, Tierce, Nautilius, ooba
With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1839 (isolation #86) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:49 am

I do scum one at a time. I'd say amrun voting a preferable wagon and then changing on a whim is scummy. Because town doesn't do that.

And ooba's post is scummy because it's defeatist.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1842 (isolation #87) » Thu Oct 03, 2013 9:55 am

btw, elleheathen.

Can you compile all of Thor's reads, his reasons for his reads, and a VCA. Then please use them to find scum for me. TIA!

PrideandJoy · Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:05 am

or maybe any old thing would do for ooba/Amrun and they didn't have much conviction at the end of the day because they're scum and mislynches are a-ok. Let's try to leave the wifom out of the argument, shall we?

PrideandJoy · Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:09 am

could you link that game dear tammy

PrideandJoy · Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:18 am

In post 1851, Tammy wrote:chef mafia

iso'd.

Every vote has a reason. Every switch in reads is also reasoned. Nothing is done "on a whim". ever.

I am glad that finally I see a game where Amrun is town (and won with town). she's been scum wherever I see her recently.

And unfortunately she is also scum this game.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1901 (isolation #91) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:17 am

Unvote

Vote: messiah

lets go big guy

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1935 (isolation #92) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:13 pm

tammy tammy tammy
i'm always town
come on

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1937 (isolation #93) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:21 pm

back off of nacho pl0x

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1944 (isolation #94) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 4:26 pm

I'd say I'm doing pretty good not reading a 80 page thread and still a) finding scum and b) not trying to lynch 1,2,3 3! people who are/were town.

Can't say I disagree with Chess's recent vote considering Mr messiah thinks a purely null post is town.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1945 (isolation #95) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 6:15 pm

Dan did you know that if you want to indicate that something belongs to someone whose name ends in s you don't add another s after the apostrophe

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1957 (isolation #96) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:33 am

In post 1951, Shadoweh wrote:Dan why the fuck are you not asking me to marry you yet, this is disconcerning. Does P&J stand for Piss and Jockstraps now? I think you should die if you don't start soliciting me soon. I am very disappointed in you not wishing to break the game with me here.

I haven't read the thread past maybe the last 10 pages. So if this is flavor for 'why haven't I town read you yet' then it's because your Thor vote yesterday pained me. If it's for something role-related to you / game mechanics-y, could you please link the post(s) so I can understand what you are talking about.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1962 (isolation #97) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:00 am

In post 1961, SafetyDance wrote:and no mentions of anyone being scum.

In post 234, PrideandJoy wrote:So I've got a minute, so I'll entertain.

Point #1: Your post generated a wagon and got the game out of RVS, but it felt awkward so I'm gonna say it was scummy
Point #2: ActionDan isn't in a thread that's been open for ~hours and he's on vacation so hasn't been posting onsite for the last few days with any frequency is a scumtell.

Wat.

Point #3:
In post 43, Goat on a Raft wrote:UNVOTE: StupendousMan, VOTE: Cephrir

Cephrir could have joined kanye in getting the game started. He didn't.

In post 50, Tierce wrote:
In post 34, Shadoweh wrote:Man this sucks. Tierce, you picked a badass woomens like Tyene Sand or something, right?
Badass woomens all day long, dear. Aerion Brightflame the Fabulous was my first pick.

VOTE: Goat on a Raft

How dare Cephrir not jumpstart the game on page 1.
This is a chainsaw, welcome to mafia 101, you are currently running a C in the course please bring your grade up Amrun

Point #4: So, not spelling out exactly that the wagon on me was essentially an RVS wagon to get the game going, and thus ruin the remaining efficacy it had was scummy cool thanks.
And being unconcerned about ~5 votes on me is also scummy ok. I'm lowering your grade to a D gonna need some serious extra credit Amrun.

The rest of your post is similarly griping about things that are non-issues to make attacks and seem threatening. You can go in the scumpile, congrats.

Pedit: I'm sticking with my ellasomething vote for now, because there's more to be gleaned from it, but Amrun is a good vote, yes.

In post 235, PrideandJoy wrote:Mainly because since being voted, all Ella has done is react to her wagon, not scumhunt at all.

In post 342, PrideandJoy wrote:In other news where the hell is ooba's head at/reads coming from someone please explain me
I do not comprehend

In post 1572, PrideandJoy wrote:
In post 1565, ooba wrote:I hate this D1.

Unvote. Vote: SafetyDance.

L-3
SafetyDance (10) - Alfred Borden, Syryana, Garruk Relentless, Cephrir, Tammy, Shadoweh, displaced, Tierce, Nautilius, ooba
With 24 alive it takes 13 votes to lynch

I don't even have to read the thread to know that this is a scum post.

The relief that someone town is miraculously getting lynched instead of their scum self is smattered harder on this post than the amount of goat cheese I apply to bagels. Which is a lot.

In post 1578, PrideandJoy wrote:I will though there's no way I can read all of it, and I wonder if I will be able to even read the 3 wagons; still, I know a scum post when I see one. And I saw Ooba's post with 20/20 vision.

In post 1751, PrideandJoy wrote:
In post 1723, Amrun wrote:Well, shit, my vote needs to be productive.

VOTE: ooba

Preferable vote out of leading wagons.

In post 1726, Amrun wrote:Err, possibly.

Honestly, I'm p sure you're town, so I'll throw you a bone while I make a mad dash to catch up and probably fail cuz got class soon.

VOTE: garruk
What is this Maloney?

In post 1793, PrideandJoy wrote:Also Shadoweh you're scum aren't you.

In post 1824, PrideandJoy wrote:
Vote: Amrun

we will join Ooba wagon if that becomes the more dominant, but we're good voting either.

In post 1901, PrideandJoy wrote:
Unvote

Vote: messiah

lets go big guy

you should watch the thread.

PrideandJoy · Post Post #1968 (isolation #98) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:39 am

that's chess' vote but it I explained why I thought he would make it in an earlier post.

PrideandJoy · Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:46 pm

I'm voting that scumchum because he's sitting around taking potshots at people and not actually trying to win the game

eg he's scum

if I had a gun id shoot him rn without a 2nd thought

PrideandJoy · Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:46 pm

Does anybody have a gun I can borrow to use for my own purposes or something

PrideandJoy · Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:20 pm

Shadoweh, I see nothing about specific about your role besides the fact that you are waiting to marry someone? or want to, or w/e.

If you have some ability wherein you can neighborize / somehow form QT's etc. then picking us is a good thing if you want a QT. otherwise, we have nothing to do with you

PrideandJoy · Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:32 am

In post 1990, Shadoweh wrote:Wow, you have absolutely no sense of fun. You must really hate your scum role pm alot if you can't even perk up a little at partying with me all night. I mean, the alternative is that you just don't care about this game and want to be set on fire for acting like mopey lurkscum. Do you want to be mopey lurkscum Dan or do you want to BE AN ACTION MAN?!

"if you could hook up with me that would be great! especially since im not reading the game so you could tell me all your special feelings" <-- by the way single white enchantress is sonly seeking good strong men, are you secretly a bear, or Reek, these are important questions you have to put on the okcupid profile

I have admitted to not reading 70 pages of this game many times. And I think objectively that it would serve you best QTing with us in the absence of all other considerations. But it seems you have another consideration, and we have nothing to do with it. Also fun isn't something either of us are having this game.

pedit @GOATSEE: that's the same post that lend me to mockingly insult Elle about compiling 2) + 3).

PrideandJoy · Mon Oct 07, 2013 10:28 am

Ceph if you don't trust me why are you hopping on my messiah justice wagon

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:21 am

whats this about SD's night 1 action?

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 08, 2013 5:35 am

no as in literally waht was the claimed action and target etc

we arent reading thread

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:50 pm

whee amrun wagon

unvote

vote amrun

PrideandJoy · Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:00 am

Tammy
Shadoweh
AGar
Benmage
elleheathen
kanyeknowsbest
Messiah Complex
ooba
SpyreX
quadz08

scum are in here ^.

But it feels gross to vote SpyreX.

So I will

VOTE: Elleheathen

PrideandJoy · Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:17 am

hey birdbrain. first. this is ActionDan speaking. 2nd, all the scum are in there.

PrideandJoy · Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:21 am

In post 1814, Goat on a Raft wrote:Hear us!

As of right now, there are six players alive who do not have the town wincon.

Also SCREW YOU GUYS WE WANTED FLIPS. GLORIOUS FLIPS.

VOTE: Amrun

PrideandJoy · Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:52 am

In post 2227, Benmage wrote:Hey
ActionDan
mind giving a bullet each explaining those scum reads?

those are people I don't have as town.

As for the people I do have as town, I don't feel any inclination to explain those.

PrideandJoy · Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:55 am

Elle/Messiah. The strength of my ooba scum read is weakening.

PrideandJoy · Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:16 am

here that moved me.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Ooba

PrideandJoy · Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:05 pm

I on the other hand am not doing shit, but you get a rock-solid townread on Shadoweh out of me *meta-approved* so there you go.

PrideandJoy · Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:14 pm

im willing to vote cephrir

(chesskid)

PrideandJoy · Wed Oct 16, 2013 4:59 am

Spyrex doesn't feel scum to me.

Also proddodge :/

PrideandJoy · Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:11 am

I do not think Zdenek is scum.

PrideandJoy · Fri Oct 18, 2013 6:17 am

I don't really think Spyrex is scum either.

Agar maybe. I am not sure what to do

PrideandJoy · Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:08 am

VOTE: Benmage

This day feels all wrong. I no longer like any of the wagons. I want to go in a totally opposite direction.

I want a lynch like on the 2nd day of the Balto invitational, to go to a place where no one particularly looks or scrutinizes. I don't remember Benmage playing particularly towny. I'm just reminded of the wire.

PrideandJoy · Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:11 pm

Uh dan no we're not gonna vote benmage

PrideandJoy · Mon Oct 21, 2013 12:12 pm

Zdenek is int this game and didn't replace anybody what?

PrideandJoy · Sun Oct 27, 2013 10:04 am

nothing interesting ever happens.

grats on getting Spy though.

Still don't think it's Zed.

still don't have a clue who scum could be.

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:23 am

In post 3078, Shadoweh wrote:I just finished the worst mafia game I've ever been in. >_>
I don't think I want to read a mafia ever again.

I think I'd be alright with an elle lynch right now, but I don't have any particular scum feelings towards her. Now that Dan shouldn't be busy perhaps he will grace the thread with more presence too. :V

suddenly, the game is now more fun to play with you

.

Elle lynch is my inclination. in fact was thinking elle or quadz but you know Quads just voted her. so. probably not scum together atm. I looked through the entire remaining player list and :/. Lynch options are limited.

oh btw Spyrex is not an SK because SKs don't hammer randomly like that and set themselves up to die. so he's group scum, of which there are 5 or 6.

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:24 am

oh come now, QTs are magical

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:29 am

In post 3093, kanyeknowsbest wrote:safetydunce

ouch

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:31 am

In post 3094, Titus wrote:What are the reasons behind the major wagons? I would like to keep those in mind as I start my read.

who needs reasons when you can vote random people.

try it and see where it gets you

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 4:41 am

I didn't read her iso.

All I remember is her thor vote

VOTE: Elle

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:17 am

wait. Did SD claim to roleblock Quadz or not?

If so lynch Quadz imo

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 5:22 am

well if he roleblocked Quadz N2, then w/e no point voting for Quadz. If N3, then yes, lynch Quadz. simple stuff

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:21 am

In post 3110, Titus wrote:Prideandjoy, I think the Miller claim is genuine. However, I can see where some would disagree. Why is voting a claimed miller bad?

We can't really see why some people would disagree. then again 13 people came together to lynch Thor. of those, I have some as more town than others and am willing to put it down to flawed judgement. Elle is the leftover + her voting Thor highlighted his claim more than others as a reason to lynch him (the notion of lynching people based off a miller claim I find repulsive)

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:48 am

your right I'm pretty sure achieveing a mislynch was good enough for the scum voting him

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 6:55 am

negging doesn't work

PrideandJoy · Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:16 am

In post 3125, Titus wrote:Negging?

PJ is making no sense. Elle lynch makes no sense. Hmmm.

aka benmage needlessly being oppositional.

pretty sure I made sense. if I didn't explain how I didn't

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:26 pm

posting. Quadz wagon intrigues.

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 01, 2013 2:27 pm

UNVOTE:

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:10 am

I think titus is telling the truth about his role.

I am not sure if it's a scum role. If it doesn't use up other people's one shots, maybe it's town. otherwise absolutely not.

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 03, 2013 4:16 am

to be clear titus.

Are you saying for one night you can redirect all night actions to yourself and reflexively block all of them without wasting anyone's shot? or block only the killing roles but allow other actions, investigative actions included, to go through without wasting anyone's (investigative/protective/killing/what-have-you) shots?

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:06 am

possibly the worst investigation choices I've seen in a long time which makes me tend to doubt you heavily.

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:15 am

The most egregious one is investigating SD and that certainly anyone with half a brain could have gotten a read on via dayplay with the 10-man wagon on him. Moreover it was a claimed JOAT. why waste a cop on it, 'falling off the map' a pitiful excuse. Not that the others also weren't bad.

VOTE: Quadz

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:30 am

do I really have to say I don't believe you are the cop.

I don't believe you are the cop

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:35 am

In post 3587, PrideandJoy wrote:possibly the worst investigation choices I've seen in a long time
which makes me tend to doubt you heavily.

In post 3588, quadz08 wrote:
What makes them bad?
I investigate people I don't think I'll get good reads on via dayplay.

In post 3589, PrideandJoy wrote:The most egregious one is investigating SD and that certainly anyone with half a brain could have gotten a read on via dayplay with the 10-man wagon on him. Moreover it was a claimed JOAT. why waste a cop on it, 'falling off the map' a pitiful excuse. Not that the others also weren't bad.

VOTE: Quadz

In post 3590, quadz08 wrote:lol

"your targets were bad, better lynch the cop"

not even "I think you're lying about being the cop"

no, just "your targets are bad"

lol

Tierce it's because he's scum

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:58 am

In post 3602, Garruk Relentless wrote:
In post 3589, PrideandJoy wrote:The most egregious one is investigating SD and that certainly anyone with half a brain could have gotten a read on via dayplay with the 10-man wagon on him. Moreover it was a claimed JOAT. why waste a cop on it, 'falling off the map' a pitiful excuse. Not that the others also weren't bad.

VOTE: Quadz
Bad.

Also, Tierce, I really need you to stop clearing people based off roleclaims. I know this is slightly hypocritical because my clear is based off roleclaim.

learn to play

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:11 am

bussing is not a thing that happens after someone is forced to claim and is L-2.

learn to play

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:13 am

this is actiondan

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:14 am

I am also right. Even Garrak agrees with me

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:21 am

ok well I'd prefer it be labeled, "scum voting other scum coincidentally" instead of bussing. bussing tends to happen earlier and is also planned out in advance most of the time. At any rate, yes, it clearly wouldn't apply here.

cuts.

lmao. that's called distancing. not bussing.

PrideandJoy · Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:24 pm

In post 3720, ActionDan wrote:how about this:

VOTE: no lynch

kills about 5 birds with one stone.

^me

PrideandJoy · Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:01 am

so what's the argument against no-lynching today so Quadz has one chance to prove his cop claim and at the same time Titus gets to prove his whacked ability.

I'd like to hear it.

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:02 am

actually there is a problem with allowing Quadz to "verify" Titus' rolename because with such a specific clause in Titus' role pm about all cops getting his rolename there is bound to be scum cop-like roles. And if Quadz is not a cop he would have a cop buddy to inform him (assuming daytalk in a faraday game).

That said considering that Thor claimed miller... there probably is a town cop (and no one has cc'd yet). BUT I remember thor claimed not-quite-normal-miller so that should be double checked.

I do think any cop-like town role should CC Quadz immediately if possible now that the hammer opportunity has gone.

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:05 am

I dunno Ooba I heard it was also uncanny that Quadz happened to have copped a player that died that same night.

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:06 am

also.

just tonally,

SD is pretty town

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:14 am

In post 3879, Titus wrote:^^^PnJ all cops should claim so scum can shoot them.

If Quadz is scum, we have proven that scums have a rolecop or some other cop. It is not an absolute clear. Yet, it gives us insight into the scums. Plus, if we try to force Quadz to post early, we might be able to trap him if you're worried about hypo thetical day talk.

I don't remember seeing any protective role flip yet.

If Quadz is scum, Quadz is scum. we can stop there.

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:27 am

I don't really feel inclined to still.

Anything last minute will probably be a mislynch anyway

P-edit: now why would you want to do that Cephrir. Did that post just grind your gears?

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:29 am

tbh it's surprising that scum would RB quadz and not the claimed JOAT.

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:30 am

In post 3889, Cephrir wrote:Like seriously, if quadz is scum we'll know it soon enough, so why the fuck would anyone cc him?

soon enough?

please explain

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:31 am

usually saving somebody who is town is both useful and magnanimous

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:13 pm

In post 3934, kanyeknowsbest wrote:mainly the logic that he was trying to capitalize on safetydance bweing a megaturd @ claiming? setting up what sort of appears to be a 1v1 with someone rustling every1s jimmys but still having the abilityt to recover out of it and paint it as not a 1v1 after the fact?

can you explain to me ben why quadz would make this post as a cop who had just been roleblocked?

In post 3128, quadz08 wrote:
In post 3118, ooba wrote:
In post 3109, PrideandJoy wrote:well if he roleblocked Quadz N2, then w/e no point voting for Quadz. If N3, then yes, lynch Quadz. simple stuff
Quadz, nothing on this?
What's there to say? We don't know what SafetyDance actually meant, and
I'm not particularly concerned about him possibly claiming to have roleblocked me.
I'll freak out about it when people start voting me for it. *shrug*

oh that's perfect. I don't even need to do anything drastic

VOTE: Quadz

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:14 pm

shadoweh hammer.

nows.

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:50 pm

oh your right.

o well.

btw Titus uses his stuff tonight

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 11, 2013 3:57 am

There is this elephant in the room. He is big and demands explanations.

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 11, 2013 5:16 am

In post 3957, Tierce wrote:Including roleblocks. Come on, don't be idiots, global roleblockers can be fucked with and if she tries to use another trigger phrase later in the game she immediately gets lynched for it. It'd be a stupid thing to fake.

I have a better explanation. But I'd like to hear from Titus first

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:13 pm

I was about to suggest an un-redirectable SK, but I guess that works too.

VOTE: Cephir

you can die.

Also I forgot, is there a reason to think tammy is town? I'll running out of scum possibilities. The only things left are ooba/Benmage/ and maybe Agar

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:22 pm

I don't remember you being bleeding town. That's why I asked.

However I'd like to ask, who precisely was the owner of that shot.

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:43 pm

you should ask Cephir why he thinks his vote is the proper vote.

my reason is that other people are town.

I'm not blind to seeing Shadoweh claim that she was explicitly involved in killing Katsuki. but it's not quite the same thing as "I killed Katsuki"

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 11, 2013 6:49 pm

repeat your thinking Cephir.

PrideandJoy · Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:18 pm

In post 4040, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 4005, SafetyDance wrote: Can't believe people are having a go at Shadoweh for killing Katsuki. Not only are you applying hindsight and not offering an alternative opinion as to what you would have done, She said she would do it, where was the disagreement then? Shad, did you know it would go over the global roleblock? Can anyone confirm (by receiving the Titus investigation message or lack of action going through) that what Titus claimed actually happened? Have to wait for her to appear now.
Yes, I knew ahead of time that the 'redirecting' I was referring to being referenced to in my role pm was 'cannot be redirected or blocked'. At least two people have claimed the global rb thing happenbed though.

I don't really think global rb that stops all scum kills couldn't be a scum role though, it's been done before (I think Faraday even had the role) :V The roleblock on the kill is pretty good evidence.

I will note now and save for later the fact that our role is in complete opposition to your claimed one. I.e., the utility of ours is negated by yours. in the same way a role copier / role mimic clashes with a vanillizer. If there happens to be a third party SK-like faction, I would be suspecting you. however, it'd be too much if you were scum (and a scum-role kill modifier like that would have been used on someone other than Katsuki).

PrideandJoy · Fri Nov 15, 2013 4:33 pm

we're not even being wagonned what

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 4:37 am

In post 4239, Tammy wrote:
In post 4238, ooba wrote:@SafetyDance
Regarding the Quadz-PnJ: It was just too odd an interaction. If either of them flip, that interaction screams "Bus" to the rest of the world. They are competent players - they wouldn't make it so obvious is my reasoning.

Have you ever seen chess kid scum? Awkward interactions with his scum partners? Kinda his forte.

Have

you

seen chess kid post? Because I haven't

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 5:16 am

In post 4242, ActionDan wrote:
In post 3303, elleheathen wrote:Yes, because:

I'm Ygritte. Aligned with the realm.

Most important of my abilities: I'm a fixed and permanent roleblocker.
You know nothing.
Guess who I targetted?

Tierce.

Which was part of my disengaging - because it was in the last day that I saw Tierce as town.

You need to kill me.

In post 3390, elleheathen wrote:
In post 3336, Benmage wrote:
@Elle
if your target dies, can you RB again?
Yes.

In post 3339, Titus wrote:^^^ I want to know that as well.

I have never seen a permanent rber. It makes much more sense to include a vanillaizer than a permanent rber unless we are looking at a spree killer. Also why use it until you are convinced someone is not town aligned? Please don't take this as being hostile, I do believe the claim (can't see elle willing to be suicidal over it). Elle just makes sense as town. Were you compulsive n1 elle?
My role is all flavor - so it doesn't specifically say 'fixed and permanent roleblocker' but that was just what I associated it with based on what it does/what I know of roles. Wasn't familiar with a vanillaizer at the time, though I've wiki'ed it now. Vanillaizer makes sense since it didn't take effect until the following night. So idk?

I was about as convinced as Tierce scum on D1 as I could get - it didn't really change until mid D3. Yeah, I debated waiting until I was positive - but I also figured that if there was a reason that
I
was that positive on someone as scum, other people would be too and they'd just be lynched.

It was a risk - I took it.

In post 4133, elleheathen wrote:
In post 4131, Garruk Relentless wrote:How many abilities do you have total?
3
VOTE: Elle

We already have a town JOAT in safety dance.

other thoughts:

Overly dramatic willingness to die despite having two other abilities (notwithstanding them being 'useless').
And that question that Benmage asked: That might be an answer that faraday would give to a 'permanent fixed roleblocker' but hardly one he'd give to someone with 3 abilities and a shot of vanillizer. Think about it. Pretty sure it got lost in transition from one roleclaim to the next. That's not even considering that a description of the ability of a standard vanillize wouldn't lead someone to advertise themselves as a permanent fixed RBer even if they didn't know what a 'vanillizer' is. They'd detail the ability.

^me

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:16 am

In post 4244, Cephrir wrote:Yawn. All you can come up with are role related reasons, and they just happen to coalesce on the only other viable wagon. Meanwhile you don't have any actual scumspects? Yawn.

I have in the past voiced my suspicions of Elle regarding her handling of the Thor wagon. I am now voting based on stronger evidence.

@Cephir: You are scum voting us because you think you'll avoid egg-on-face when we flip town. re: Benmage's "Pnj is the lynch for today" to see someone with that attitude trying to coax people into a sheep mentality.

@Elle. jesus. you literally can't communicate worth a damn.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Cephir

Hard to say which one of you and Benmage I want to pulverize more. Eventually someone else will but their foot down and realize that the two of you are on cruise control

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:19 am

In post 4247, Nautilius wrote:Lack of other options.

thought so.

But there are other options if you look for them. It isn't particularly hard to at least see more than one. Yet I sense a reluctance from you. Are you tired? Off your game? what's the matter?

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:31 am

you never said it was "nothing". You just gave the old "Pffhaw" and left it like that.

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:02 am

•Alfred Borden (Empire/Llamarble) - posts 3 paragraph reads at a time but they all feel somewhat irrevelant
•Andrius AGar - claimed roleblocker to Titus N3 (kinda forgot If they did anything before that) probably town now
•Benmage - have not seen this slot do anything town; content to laugh at us D1-D2 (D3?) and then vote D4. progression is scummy in and of itself
•Cephrir - content to be snarky instead of giving a damn
•elleheathen - sucks
•Garuk Relentless (Natarisha/MafiaSSK) - vouched for by Tierce and soft claimed, probably town
•Goat on a Raft (Channeldelibird/AurorusVox) - "there are 6 non-town!" is a shitty town role as it was presented like their entire raison d'etre of existing in this game was to impart that sacred knowledge upon us
•kanyeknowsbest - prolly town.
•Messiah Complex (Desperado/Formerfish) - eh.
•Nautilius (Nacho/Ellibereth) - eh. don't want to lynch
•ooba - changed my mind. more likely town
•Prideandjoy(chesskid3/ActionDan)
•SafetyDance - town
•Shadoweh - town or 3rd party. not worth lynching anytime soon
•The Alchemist - eh. Don't want to lynch
•Tammy - eh. reading back less eh. more townish, don't want to lynch
•Tierce - town vouched by Garruck.
•Zdenek Titus - compliments our role. Also he didn't screw up the one-shots or they'd be clamoring for his death. no not want to lynch even though Agar blocked them on a night of no-kill.

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:07 am

why is goat scum naut?

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:36 am

In post 4263, Cephrir wrote:I'm scumhunting

not in your last ~25 posts you aren't. What 'scum hunting' is there in voting us and calling every post concerning Quadz a bus. And garruk the guy who Tierce has a role-related reason to believe is town. I'd say your efforts are better translated as tunnel for shit reasons.

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 7:44 am

you think averaging > 5 posts per day makes you town?

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:33 pm

In post 4316, Eddard Stark wrote:
Day 5, Vc 11

PrideandJoy (8) -
kanyeknowsbest, Tammy, Cephrir, Benmage, The Alchemist, elleheathen, AGar, Goat on a Raft

Garruk Relentless (4) -
Messiah Complex, SafetyDance, Titus, ooba

Titus (3) -
Goat on a Raft, Garuk Relentless, Nautilius

Cephrir (1) -
PrideandJoy

Not voting (3) -
Alfred Borden, Shadoweh, Tierce

With 18 alive it takes 10 votes to lynch

Deadline Date: 25th of Novemberat 10:00 EDT

Deadline Countdown: (expired on 2013-11-25 10:00:00)

I like this VC.

It tells me that one of Alfred/MC are the one scum off the wagon waiting for Titus + Garruck to do the dirty work for them. I'm going to lean on Alfred being that scum.

Rest of scum are no doubt on the wagon.

We will be reminding you guys of this tomorrow. So don't think you'll get away with scratching your heads and going back to speculating about titus.

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:57 pm

Push!Cephir

I'll have you know that Cephir is the fourth largest wagon comprised of me. in the case of you vs. Garuk, the obvious choice is to vote you. There, I believe that fully elucidates my preferences concerning the 4 major wagons at this time.

Cephir is as likely to be lynched as anyone else not named PnJ atm. (maybe, maybe, Alchemist has greater chances than others). He's the one I want right now. his townread on us turned "stale" (which is called an excuse to rationalize fomenting a scum read solely for inactivity). His focus today has been on 2/17 other people. And his delving into Quadz has yielded nothing of worth.

PrideandJoy · Sun Nov 17, 2013 6:58 pm

Pretend Garruk is a friendly neighbor and be done with it for gods sake.

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:15 am

In post 4355, Benmage wrote:Ooba......Why haven't you voted PnJ???

why did you?

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:23 am

In post 4350, Cephrir wrote:
In post 4326, PrideandJoy wrote:Push!Cephir

I'll have you know that Cephir is the fourth largest wagon comprised of me. in the case of you vs. Garuk, the obvious choice is to vote you. There, I believe that fully elucidates my preferences concerning the 4 major wagons at this time.

Cephir is as likely to be lynched as anyone else not named PnJ atm. (maybe, maybe, Alchemist has greater chances than others). He's the one I want right now. his townread on us turned "stale" (which is called an excuse to rationalize fomenting a scum read solely for inactivity). His focus today has been on 2/17 other people. And his delving into Quadz has yielded nothing of worth.
Yes, a scum read solely for inactivity, which explains why I built an at least mediocre case on you the other day when I initially added you to my suspect list.

Focusing on players is not scummy.

My delving for associative tells never divines anything of worth, but I do it anyway. Fact is, I'm so bad at scumhunting that me being right is probably a scumtell. That doesn't stop me from trying though.

So your cases are mediocre and you are bad at using associative tells. In that case what gave you the nerve to shout that several of our exchanges with Quadz were demonstrative of a bus. 3 times in I row you quoted a post and then posted "bus.jpg". Not once did you say why you thought that those specific posts were indicative of a bus.

focusing on 2/17 players and calling it scum hunting is scummy. Especially when GR is town re: recent discussions make clear(er).

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:24 am

In post 4356, PrideandJoy wrote:
In post 4355, Benmage wrote:Ooba......Why haven't you voted PnJ???
why did you?

Kayne can go ahead and answer as well.

And I'd be interested to hear if and when Goat becomes less apathetic.

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:32 am

In post 4359, Benmage wrote:You read scummy to me

quote relevant posts.

You've had 3 days prior to come out and say something similar. The only thing I remember you doing was merely dismissing anything we ever said.

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:11 am

In post 2221, Benmage wrote:I love how comically bad chesskid is.

Take over 40% of the remaining players in a game with zero flipped scum... and say there's scum there.

NO SHIT SHERLOCK.

LOOK I've narrowed the entire scum team into this pool:
Alfred Borden (Empire/Llamarble)
Andrius AGar
Benmage
Cephrir
elleheathen
Garuk Relentless (Natarisha/MafiaSSK)
Goat on a Raft (Channeldelibird/AurorusVox)
kanyeknowsbest
Messiah Complex (Desperado/Formerfish)
Nautilius (Nacho/Ellibereth)
ooba
PeaceBringer, displaced Spyrex
Prideandjoy(chesskid3/ActionDan)
quadz08
SafetyDance
Shadoweh
StupendousMan
The Alchemist
Tammy
Tierce
Zdenek

In post 2594, Benmage wrote:
In post 2593, PrideandJoy wrote:I don't remember Benmage playing particularly towny.
I'm just reminded of the wire.

In post 3121, Benmage wrote:
In post 3120, PrideandJoy wrote:(the notion of lynching people based off a miller claim I find repulsive)
Good thing noone here did that.

In post 3123, Benmage wrote:thatdoesn'tmakeanysensescumtypicallywanttoachievemislynches

In post 3130, Benmage wrote:
In post 3129, PrideandJoy wrote:
In post 3125, Titus wrote:Negging?

PJ is making no sense. Elle lynch makes no sense. Hmmm.
aka benmage needlessly being oppositional.

pretty sure I made sense. if I didn't explain how I didn't

In post 3122, PrideandJoy wrote:your right I'm pretty sure achieveing a mislynch was good enough for the scum voting him
That ^ didn't make sense as a response to:
In post 3121, Benmage wrote:
In post 3120, PrideandJoy wrote:(the notion of lynching people based off a miller claim I find repulsive)
Good thing noone here did that.
Do you want to tell me next that 1+1 = 2?

How was I oppositional?

In post 3607, Benmage wrote:CHess is wrong.

In post 3610, Benmage wrote:My statement about chess is still true. That said, dan your blank statement is incorrect about busing as whole... If you want to say it doesn't apply to this scenario be free.

In post 3611, Benmage wrote:Especially when you consider you've previously taken shots at quadz for being scum, but never really put your $ where your mouth is.

Its scum 1-0-1 strategy to call their teammates scum, yet vote a different scum read. Cahlasssic.

These I consider all examples of butting heads with me. None are particularly associated with finding alignment. As for my read on you, I was about to say scum, but looking over your iso I realize you are all over the place and I wonder if scum would have the energy and competence to keep so many disparate interests straight. So consider it less certain. However now more than ever you should face increased scrutiny. And today you've been sitting back

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:44 am

The fact that anyone thinks anything posted after D2 was by chess shows that you are all complete lackwits.

We are Syrio, X-shot self-redirecter with a passive ability that will allow us to make a limited number of posts the day after we die.

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:41 pm

no the other way around. Opposite to you

We redirect off of ourselves to another person.

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 1:49 pm

In post 4398, ActionDan wrote:nope.

not even last night

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:03 pm

top town atm is SD. but Shadoweh/Tierce/Garuk are more or less on par.

I'd still get rid of Cephir.

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:04 pm

ayo dan did you tell them how after they lynch us we get 20 posts tomorrow to make fun of them for lynching us?

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:05 pm

dibs on 10 of them

we can post really funny gifs and otherwise waste our potentially pro-town ability

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:06 pm

Also whoever this wagon was on before it was on us is most likely scum
because we're all the point in the game where scum need to not lynch scum so whoever's behind this push/shift
etc

but I'm not going to read because eff this game

PrideandJoy · Mon Nov 18, 2013 4:07 pm

In post 4394, PrideandJoy wrote:The fact that anyone thinks anything posted after D2 was by chess shows that you are all complete lackwits.

We are Syrio, X-shot self-redirecter with a passive ability that will allow us to make a limited number of posts the day after we die.

X=1 lol

we were going to try to get vigged and redirect it but after it was obvious we weren't going to get vigged I lost interest

Q_Q

PrideandJoy · Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:31 am

We're syrio forel cuz
I wanted to be bulletproof or a treestump
but faraday likes limiting things clearly

PrideandJoy · Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:32 am

shoulda gone with choice 2 of patchface dan
jester all day all night

PrideandJoy · Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:33 am

my money's on titus for scum btw

PrideandJoy · Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:13 am

Garruk 1v1 me fagget

PrideandJoy · Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:38 am

In post 4451, Alfred Borden wrote:
In post 4434, Tierce wrote:Where are you again, Empire? What's your read on PrideandJoy?
His read is I'm allowed to hammer him

this guy is such scum.

PrideandJoy · Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:39 am

he is the lynch for tomorrow.

PrideandJoy · Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:41 am

In post 4454, kanyeknowsbest wrote:yeah

and if you aren't killed by 3p lylo you probably need death as well

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