A uPick of Ice & Fire - Day 12 - #REKT?

[PeaceBringer]

you can dance if you want to,

vote safety dance

the unconfirmed...

[PeaceBringer]

oh yeah, that won't work... lol

FOS Safety Dance

the unconfirmed.

[PeaceBringer]

you can dance if you want to,

vote safety dance

the unconfirmed...

hello, i understand that you are terrible at mafia but mb you could comment on anything that has happened in this game as opposed to voting a player who hasnt posted yet.

um, nothing of import has happened in the game. There is a run up, that is it. No one has pinged me. oh, and what I do, I do well. I don't suck but I don't play the way you do. Learn from it or not. I don't engage in pretend reasons and blah blah blah meta. If I make a meta comment and take time to do it, it is worth attending to. I have nothing right now. 5 pages in on day one and blah blah blah.

[PeaceBringer]

vote pnj

oh and this is your day 1 vote on someone who has not posted and you are pushing the lynch. So while, I had nothing to alert me yet, that is a big ping.

FOS KKB

[PeaceBringer]

... So why FOS someone that hasn't been on yet?
All you're doing is making very little of what your FOS should be when it has actual merit behind it besides 'OHEYTHISGUYHASNTLOGGEDINYET. MUSTBEAWIGHT!'

because that is what I do... I use my vote or FOS in this case and use it for what I use it for. Merit is blah blah blah. Not one vote has merit right now. Not one. Also I was amused by Safety Dance... but hey, now I got to sort out if your reaction to me is typical 1st reaction or if it ends up scum motived. But do not lecture me on how to play the game, been playing it the way I do far too long.

[PeaceBringer]

PeaceBringer I made you a hat

so why do you think you are being run up.

[PeaceBringer]

oh and this is your day 1 vote on someone who has not posted and you are pushing the lynch.

I've clearly posted. So that's why you got the hat.

It's fairly obvious why there was/is a wagon on me. Am I supposed to care or something?

<--- see tote

[PeaceBringer]

oh and this is your day 1 vote on someone who has not posted and you are pushing the lynch.

I've clearly posted. So that's why you got the hat.

It's fairly obvious why there was/is a wagon on me. Am I supposed to care or something?

<--- see tote

<--- see title...
seriously, getting run up for a joke vote. :shakesheadprofusely:

[PeaceBringer]

oh and this is your day 1 vote on someone who has not posted and you are pushing the lynch.

I've clearly posted. So that's why you got the hat.

It's fairly obvious why there was/is a wagon on me. Am I supposed to care or something?

I think I will like you FYI...

[PeaceBringer]

I dislike 20 page RVSes. I set the groundwork, the voters came in, and blam we're out of RVS. Shake your head all you want, it serves a necessary function.

not shaking my head at you, but the mindset that does that... starts throwing votes on a joke... I definitely will like you...

and of course my shtick on the safety dance reference completely ignored. Just a couple of knee jerkers and KKB has had some past exposure...

[PeaceBringer]

For the record, the intensity with which you were pushing a wagon someone with your experience should know is on someone more likely town than not was why you were giving me :badvibes:

The last 3 pages have been quite a bit nicer for content/preliminary reads/etc.

tbf your first post made me mad as heck. the rest was good though and your response was good.

who is action dan and why did a vote for him piss you off-
inquiring minds

[PeaceBringer]

Players of the Game

1. Alfred Borden (Empire/Llamarble)
   
   
2. Amrun
   
   
3. Andrius
   
   
4. Benmage
   
   
5. Cephrir
   
   
6. elleheathen
   
   
7. Garuk Relentless (Natarisha/MafiaSSK)
   
   
8. Goat on a Raft (Channeldelibird/AurorusVox)
   
   
9. kanyeknowsbest
   
   
10. macmollie (pirate mollie/Mac)
    
    
11. Messiah Complex (Desperado/Formerfish)
    
    
12. Nautilius (Nacho/Ellibereth)
    
    
13. ooba
    
    
14. PeaceBringer
    
    
15. Prideandjoy(chesskid3/ActionDan)
    
    
16. quadz08
    
    
17. SafetyDance
    
18. Shadoweh
    
    
19. StupendousMan
    
    
20. Syryana
    
    
21. Tammy
    
    
22. Thor665
    
    
23. Tierce
    
    
24. Zdenek

Spoiler: Protecting the Realm

• [*]Alfred Borden (Empire/Llamarble)
  [*]Amrun
  [*]Andrius
  [*]Benmage
  [*]Cephrir
  [*]elleheathen
  [*]Garuk Relentless (Natarisha/MafiaSSK)
  [*]Goat on a Raft (Channeldelibird/AurorusVox)
  [*]kanyeknowsbest
  [*]macmollie (pirate mollie/mac)
  [*]Messiah Complex (Desperado/Formerfish)
  [*]Nautilius (Nacho/Ellibereth)
  [*]ooba
  [*]PeaceBringer
  [*]Prideandjoy(chesskid3/ActionDan)
  [*]quadz08
  [*]SafetyDance
  [*]Shadoweh
  [*]StupendousMan
  [*]Syryana
  [*]Tammy
  [*]Thor665
  [*]Tierce
  [*]Zdenek

[/spoiler]

Spoiler: Consigned to the History Books

Spoiler: Important moments

you should probably learn these names

<<-- again see title, I skimmed over who is in a hydra... so I take you are action dan then, still do not know why it would piss off KKB

[PeaceBringer]

I dislike 20 page RVSes. I set the groundwork, the voters came in, and blam we're out of RVS. Shake your head all you want, it serves a necessary function.

not shaking my head at you, but the mindset that does that... starts throwing votes on a joke... I definitely will like you...

and of course my shtick on the safety dance reference completely ignored. Just a couple of knee jerkers and KKB has had some past exposure...

i honestly have no idea what youre trying 2 say here and usualyl im pretty good @ this

I was not shaking my head at Pride and Joy but rather the whole PnJ run up on a joke. Lack of humor and lack of tolerance for shtick. Just a bunch of knee jerk votes. The end part was just pointing out you had past exposure to my play.

do you know that song SAFETY DANCE from the 80's with the lyrics

We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine.

I say, we can go where we want to
A place where they'll never find
And we can act like we come from out of this world
Leave the real one far behind
We can dance (Come see! )

We can go where we want to
The night is young and so am I
And we can dress real neat
From our hands to our feet
And surprise'em with a victory cry

I say, we can act if we want to
If we don't nobody will
And you can act real rude
And totally removed
And I can act like an imbecile


I say, we can dance, we can dance
Everything is out of control
We can dance, we can dance
We're doing it from wall to wall
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody's taking the chance.

Safety dance
We'll safety dance
Yes, the safety dance

We can dance if we want to
We've got all your life and mine
As long as we abuse it
Never gonna lose it
Everything will work out right.

I say, We can dance if we want to
We can leave your friends behind
Cause your friends don't dance
And if they don't dance
Well they're no friends of mine.

I say, we can dance, we can dance
Everything is out of control
We can dance, we can dance
We're doing it from wall to wall
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody look at your hands
We can dance, we can dance
Everybody's taking the chance.

Safety dance
We'll safety dance
Yes, the safety dance.

[PeaceBringer]

wight = dead slot

rather than the obvious wight = scum connotation it looked like you were trying to fake to me. *shrug*

I'll move my vote when you do pro-town things.

That wasn't a change from what I was saying?
PB votes someone not here. I call him out for it and quote the most out there reference of a dead baddie that I can think of because I can't understand the reasoning behind putting a vote on a slot that he knew wouldn't respond.

Did you like his vote?

what about not having a reason for pointing at someone other than they haven't shown up do you not understand? Did I say he was scum. Nope. Just reacting in an uptight way, now still trying to souse you out but others have jumped on you quick. I am more concerned with KKB actually than you right now.

[PeaceBringer]

fyi scum post jokes and references too.

no, really... shocking...
see, you voted for a joke then you go poking at me for essentially a schtick and no show vote...when you have already seen how I play and even saw fit to reference my play in calling me a bad player... you claim to be pissed off at PnJ for self voting essentially...

[PeaceBringer]

???

i voted him cus it was a bad post and i wanted to start gathering some reactions and get shit rolling. i poked you because your vote was bad and i wanted a reaction. i now have a multitude of townreads stemming from the former and a townread on you from the latter. dwi

I am calling you a hyprocrite. You engaged in the same kind of behavior I actually just engaged in... you are the one that said his 1st post pissed you off, now you are calling it reaction fishing...make up your mind...

[PeaceBringer]

what about not having a reason for pointing at someone other than they haven't shown up do you not understand?

The town motivation from it.

it is how I play, it is how everyone plays where I come from... http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/in ... ry15530212here is a sample of games where I come from...lol.

[PeaceBringer]

Well then since RVS is over you should move your vote to someone you are reading as scummy.

I don't read, I get reactions... right now am slamming on KKB and sorting that out for myself...

[PeaceBringer]

*glares at Tammy and her alcohol issues*

*pout*

It was a joke. I'm not actually doing shots. It's a school night, what type of teacher do you think I am?

a drunken letch of one... :ducks:

[PeaceBringer]

VOTE: elleheathen yeah I am way supercomfy with that wagon. the wight comment reads too much like a slip to ignore this early in the game.

huh? seriously? :raises eyebrow:

[PeaceBringer]

[quote="In Also, do you have a read on shadoweh yet?

[quote="In [url=http://www.mafiascum.n ... 1]post 297, Alfred Borden"]
As far as Shadoweh goes, not really. Too early for it and I frankly don't trust my ability to read her.[/quote]
This is why I can't have nice things. :< Also because watching Tammy go nuts is hilarious.

Quadz: By non-sequitors I mean your content is one liners that don't go anywhere. You're the mafia equivalent of "Nice weather we're having." Since this isn't helpful for a conversation though, have you considered if Andy was faking a post restriction he'd be more likely town, since scum tend towards being huge chickens who don't want to piss people off when they inevitably have to admit they can talk?[/quote]
something change around here over time I take it? faking post restrictions used to be a favored tactic for scum...
now faking a restriction and then backing it off another story...

[PeaceBringer]

vote KKB

[PeaceBringer]

I do not like either run up at the moment, seeing way too much over reactionary voting... but that is just me. FYI- KKB pretty much has been wagon jumping...part of the reasoning for my vote here...

[PeaceBringer]

kanye's not scum

kindly stop voting for him

ooba, on the other hand, is someone who keeps making me go AHHH every time he posts and then I promptly forget about him in the sea of Not Shitty Posts that surround his play

in fact

VOTE: ooba

I prefer my own examination

[PeaceBringer]

these 3 have yet to participate in the game: Messiah Complex, SafetyDance, Syryana

[PeaceBringer]

like seriously, check out ooba's iso

hello post- null
brief readslist- null
joke- null
explanation of joke-null
post 331, which is confusing at best and a misrep at worst- null
says he "still" reads elle as town after not mentioning outside of 331- null
response to question- null
asks about vote on himself-null

he has generated no actual content; his only reads were the initial readslist, his townread on elle, and then a couple of scumreads after Thor explicitly asked him to point out some scum for him- null

there is not a thing scummy in any of that behavior. Not a thing. It could go either way.
compare that to KKB's behavior which demonstrates wagon jumping... now if people tell me that is his normal town play, fine, and when I have time it may be concerning enough to meta check...

[PeaceBringer]

Um...how is wagon jumping scummy in any way at all?
Especially in the first few days of Day 1?

it is a behavior that stands out, enough for me to warrant curiosity. It does seem out of character for him the few games I have looked at... and you are just lulz voting... which is fine by me as used to pretty much total lulz voting on day one...but want something out of alignment it is KKB's behavior imo...

[PeaceBringer]

Can you link me to a KKB game where he didn't jump votes?
Because it seems exceedingly in character for him to me.

I am not talking about vote jumping... vote jumping is something different than wagon hopping both of which are null behaviors. However, in games such as http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=28450 no such behavior. Bounced around other games as well and had not noted the behavior but I looked at iso's on that game and quick glances do not demonstrate wagon hopping. He has not shifted his vote to wagon again yet so that remains to be seen. Just something sets me off... something doesn't fit quite right

[PeaceBringer]

Can you link me to a KKB game where he didn't jump votes?
Because it seems exceedingly in character for him to me.

beginning to wonder if you are buddies with KKB as you misrepresented what I said, I went diving a little more and still nothing resembling band wagon voting...it actually seems quite different than that...

[PeaceBringer]

Why are we fucking 22 pages into the game and still acting like children.. Now I remember why I took a Haitus from mafia... the level of play is pathetic.

:sigh: we probably will not get along...

[PeaceBringer]

Speaking of KKB, where has he been?

Also, I'm not scumreading Thor but am I the only one who doesn't buy the "lol Casso" claim

eyebrow raising post... you now are on the needs to be watched list

[PeaceBringer]

I am caught up now and wow this thread was really funny

thor, here is your cake:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p4798828

benny are you always like this

@ peaceperson

when you meta, what do you go by? kanye is town cos so far his posts come from a town POV. <----- scum can do this too and pull it off in the early stages of the game but I am thinking kanye might be town.

naut is town too, btw

VOTE: syrlacious

I go by gut, instinct, tone. Behavior shifts. Looking for "town POV" is a trap. Look for things that do not seem right. And that is about all I am going to explain about what I do actually look at...

[PeaceBringer]

yesss! vote him, pb!

it is concerning, for sure... not enough to overcome my KKB concerns yet... but that was very suspicious...

[PeaceBringer]

3) is so utterly irrelevant to the game that to use it as part of a handy framework for pushing your Thor suspicion is disingenuous. Tell me, do you think it's a natural thought process as scum to go "hey, I'll claim miller ... ooh, and I think I could make myself look townier by incorrectly claiming that nobody will lynch me because of site meta"? For your theory to have any basis in scumhunting, that has to be the question, and the answer is obviously no.

Meanwhile, newsflash: Every time you whine about how much better at everyone else at this game you are, this is what I read:

ZDENEK is now immune from being lynched for today. Should he reach majority you will default to no lynch.

And even if you were saying something of useful scumhunting value, good luck getting anyone to pay attention to it while you're acting so aggressively superior.

eh, please do not go making up mod quotes, it is annoying...

[PeaceBringer]

mad, what is there to get mad about ?

[PeaceBringer]

Okay, I know it may be that I come from a different culture, but honestly when I read that last post it just comes off as noise. There is nothing in that wall that makes me go, hmm, need to consider that... just blah blah blah... so that sets of alarms-

pedit: not thor's post, the one before it.

[PeaceBringer]

It seems fine to me and not particularly worse than any of the actual noise going on in this thread... if you can't explain this better than I don't know what you're talking about

did you not get maybe culture, when you are used to the noise factor it is not quite as noted but there was nothing of meaning there...just space. There is a lot of that... please note I come from where no one really explains thoughts and a paragraph would be considered a lot of detail... it is quite different than when I played before where there was a distinct lack of noise or any real engagement... but that is a side note, just to me came off as a lot of words with little meaning

[PeaceBringer]

Can we please have more votes on KKB... do not like the disappearing act in addition

other vote that is worth attending to is PnJ based on the prior mucky posting

not sure I grasped the votes on Cephir

apparently safety dance is a mega lurker...

[PeaceBringer]

Can we please have more votes on KKB... do not like the disappearing act in addition

...he's on v/la?

he has been prodded

[PeaceBringer]

liking KKB's posting better now that he has renengaged and not just wagon hopping at this time.

glad to see safety dance show up...
not sure what the "slip" was with safety dance...
also am in a pissy mood as the football team I root for currently is in a state of major suckage and ownage...
sigh

[PeaceBringer]

I meant to

unvote...

[PeaceBringer]

upon further read,

vote stupendous man

...

[PeaceBringer]

Um, thor where do you get that it would be policy. I read over stupendous man and comes off too hard trying to present a certain way. His comments appear forced to me.

[PeaceBringer]

Um, thor where do you get that it would be policy. I read over stupendous man and comes off too hard trying to present a certain way. His comments appear forced to me.

an he is still aways off from any real pressure as well

[PeaceBringer]

@PB - I was going off what I had seen. Could you maybe quote me a post of him "trying too hard"? Also, did you look at any town games of his to make sure it's a scum tell and not you reading him wrong?

limited set but he does appear similar to the game he was scum, yes...

292,
394,
811,
814,
888,
892
all have that vibe to me...

[PeaceBringer]

Thor- the tone is different then the completed town game, but that is his 1st. I glance at past games and compare tone. I do not do all the stuff folks here do. I guage by reactions, tones and other elements that I will not explain. Some I really cannot even fully put to words anyway as it is a general sense. Here, he comes off as forced. That is my reaction

[PeaceBringer]

Can you link the completed town game for the lazy amongst us, and maybe explain the tonal difference?
I'm pretty sure I was in a game with him where he was town and I don't feel a difference yet, albeit I haven't seen much from him, but besides him acting polite (like Tierce is noting) I don't see anything really clicking as different to me. Help clue me in here, your case needs sheep, so you need to herd if you believe in it at all.

it is in his wiki, so no I am not going to link it. And no, I am not going to explain my thinking further.

[PeaceBringer]

We already have Mollie in this game...
Hint: it's not pro-town when she does it either.
Additional Hint: when a scumhunting "style" is described as "unexplainable" I always translate that to "illogical and should be ignored because they're making gak up and lack the grapefruits to just say so either to others, and possibly themselves."

Bullshit- crap like this is why I am a fish outta water here- sorry to flake but

REPLACE OUT