Micro 231: Mismatching Flavor Mafia (Game Over!)

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/confirm

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VOTE: Shiny Hydreigon

Charizard is cooler.

@Bert: Your "I will draw scum" thing is odd to me and seems out of place.

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I didn't know they were a hydra or if they even are a hydra. They are silly for thinking that Charizard isn't the coolest pokemon to ever exist and that will ever exist though.

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UNVOTE:

VOTE: Viera Assassin

Claiming does nothing to help the village. All it does is tell the mafia that you are not Vanilla Ice Cream thus most likely not VT. So you either just outed yourself as a PR or outed yourself as scum. I am going to believe the later.

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My role is a 10. I forgot to answer it.

I don't care about your heads but do the signs actually mean anything or do you all just choose a random letter? Or is it the head that is speaking like right/middle/left? <-If that is it that is brilliant.

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Nacho is an awesome player. He got me a win in a game where I did nothing. By far the best teammate I have ever had.

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Vote: Lucky2u

that claim fishing is just plain scummy

you should know better

<3

Scummier than a 1v1 gamble? Town would realize that day 1, a 1v1 scenario is not in our advantage because there is a possibility of BOTH being town. They arent CCing each other, so in what sense does a 1v1 make? Let's just go ahead and call his bluff, and hang the obvious scum.

What if they are both scum and they are willing to sacrafice themselves to make their partner look town. That would make this a win/win for scum.

I know what ifs aren't good but it should still be thought about.

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Question Time for Everybody:
What do you think of the 1v1? How about the reactions? Motivations?
What are your thoughts on the gamble? Do you think it benefits the town? Why or why not? What about the reactions? Motivations?
If the town decides to go through with the gamble and the lynched person flips town, would you hold your word and lynch the other slot, no questions asked?
Any other concerns? Questions? Thoughts?

Sorry, didn't see these.

It feels scum motivated to me. I pointed out you could be bussing each other thus either lynch cleans the other one. Reactions are normal.

Gambling is like gambiting, silly. I don't think it benefits the town because if you are both wrong then we lose town and LYLO is not a good place to get town. Reactions are normal.

I am not doing this gamble so no i wouldn't.

What is the point of these questions? What motivation do you see in the answers? What about the reactions to your questions? If this Gamble is dumb will you admit it? What is your motivation of putting town at LYLO?

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Brian Skies

I have to agree with Shiny. They way you post and your ideas seem scummy to me. You also keep mentioning how odd your role is. This is also an oddity to me. You seem to vote people for no reason other than for the heck of it. You are either an odd person and play oddly or scum.

L-2 I believe

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UNVOTE:

You are too reckless to be scum.

I disagree. You vote/unvote looks really weird to me.

@Skies: You should have totally claimed anyway. If you had flipped town what is to say that we wouldn't honor your lynch shiny thing? You offered yourself up as the first lynch which is odd. If you didn't suggest the 1v1 then who did? I remember you bringing up the idea first. What about my ISO is scummy?

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But you voted him because you didn't like his attitude. Is that really a valid reason?

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You didn't state the trying hard thing until after wards. It feels like it was almost an after thought that you conveniently realized.

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Also, I did get a small townread for Shiny, but not for the same reason as Guyett.

DO you still want Shiny lynched?

@Mono: If one of them flips town then one of them flips town and my theory is wrong. I don't understand the point of this questions.

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I am pretty sure that means policy lynched.

VOTE: Vierra

Apparently I got it right earlier thinking you were scum. Policy lynches are dumb and not helpful at all. Together with your claim, which of course struck me the wrong way and didn't have town motivation around it, I am convinced this is the best lynch for today.

Can you explain why you want up pl'd?

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I disagree. People apparently like them so I have to state my opinion on them. Also, the fact that Vierra wants a PL is part of the reason I am voting them so if I have to say why.

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Well, self hammering is kind of dumb.

Guyett's vote on VA right after mind rubs me the wrong way. I think Shiny is town and if NS is really in the hydra this is the most useful I have ever seen them in a game. I feel I have posted enough for someone to at least have some type of read on me better than null because "they haven't seen me much."

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Got the prod. I will remember 36 hours from now on. Will post content soon.

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Can someone explain the Cabd wagon to me?

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I feel I have posted enough for someone to at least have some type of read on me better than null because "they haven't seen me much."

that is just not acceptable because he/she hasn't been posting or giving us that much to work with for him to say such things like "IVE POSTED ENOUGH, YALL SHOULD HAVE A READ ON MWAH"

In post 524 you say you don't like my ISO yet here you say you can't read me? Is that not a contradiction?

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Bert Iso Lucky and tell me if you see anything pro town

Bert iso me and tell me what's scum.

Fluff: I feel I could have had you when you were my lynch target if it wasn't for that Damn hider.

This implies you think you haven't done anything town or scummy.

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Nacho/Sakura, what do you think of Saki being a D1 lynch? Would you consider that?

Saki's town, never lynch him

~Sakura Hana

Why? I feel like there is a whole bunch of bias behind this post.

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I would prefer not to lynch Saki D1. They are an odd one and I think they actually become useful after D1. Day 2 and on trolling is dumb.

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UNVOTE:

VOTE: lucky

Let me sheep you guys for now. After I missed a couple days I have been kind of behind and having a hard time following the game.

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You probably already know me, or at least you know my brother. Together with him I've been on many adventures, toppling evil kingdoms and beating down the bad guys. Occasionally I'll take a break and join my brother and our friends in a game of tennis or kart racing. Have you guessed who I am?

That's right! It's a'me LUIGI! Luigi Mario to be exact. (that's right my last name is Mario, and yes that means my brother's last name is Mario Mario.) it's a special year for me because it is the Nintendo declared YEAR OF LUIGI!... Of course that doesn't seem to be saving me from the gallows

That is fine and dandy but know what you didn't tell us? What your role does.

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They were the only person I was sure was town too.

VOTE: Guyett

I feel this is what Lucky would have wanted.

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Why aren't I in there?

What is your opinion on the Mono flip?

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The only game I have been in with Nacho he won for me so I didn't know he died a lot.

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morph, there are like 2 pages of people trying to guess heads.

beast - Leaning scum. I feel like he is being opportunistic. And it didn't seem like he cared much about finding information. But, something feels really wrong with this read and it's bothering me. I can't pinpoint it exactly.

What about this has changed since you are voting me now?

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I have no one else to vote for right now so I figured I would see what everyone else thought of my vote.

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I totally thought i posted yesterday. Well I will get that post up soon.

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I can't find the post asking if I have town reads on everyone but Guyett but no i don't. I just am not confident in my other scum read Bert. The kill today made me sad to say the least.

I think Assassin is town along with Morph and Shiny. Brian is odd to me and I know I am town.

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I think Assassin is town along with Morph and Shiny. Brian is odd to me and I know I am town.

Why are VA and Morph town?

Why am I odd? Does being odd make me scum? You were willing to vote me earlier for just being odd.

You are null on PoE. If I am wrong on one of my scum reads then you are next in line to be scum right now.

I like how they are posting. Morph came in for Cabd IIRC and have been doing a lot of questioning and things I consider to be town. VA I just don't think is scum.

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Beast is being really passive and won't be forceful about any of his reads, that's why I've had him as scum. He is laying low and it's like his tactic

My tactic? Can you explain this for me?

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Reads list going up tomorrow. Don't let the suspense kill you.

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That is L-1 if i am not mistaken.

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still waiting for those reads

R~

Didn't I post them?

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1. Cat - Null subs always are null for me.
2. Guyett - scum
5. Brian Skies - town PoE
7. Shiny Hydreigon - town
8. Bert - Scum
9. Viera Assassin - town

Going to bed so this is what you get.

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I was expecting to have more time yesterday to explain my reads but that didn't happen.

I just don't think he is scum. It is a gut thing for VA.

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No, i will explain them. But why didn't you ask Guyett to explain his?

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Noone hammer please. I am actually doing the reads right now. I am watching football at the same time though.

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1. Cat - Null
Cabd did very little but Cat has picked it up. Still don't have a read on them.
2. Guyett - scum
Their response to pressure doesn't seem genuine. The self-vote seems like a gambit and putting a read of themselves didn't sit well with me. Everyone is going to call themselves town.
5. Brian Skies - town
I didn't like their exchange with Shiny but their explanation and saying they were confused seemed genuine to me. Since then they have been encouraging conversation and scum hunting.
7. Shiny Hydreigon - town
Can anyone argue they aren't town? They generate discussion. They call people on everything they do. They push people to actually contribute.
8. Bert - Null
I am changing this read. I can't find anything I find especially scummy about them. They seem to be very fair with how they play as well.
9. Viera Assassin - Null
Mostly gut. I don't know much about Saki except what others have told me. They haven't done anything I deemed scummy. Because of my changing my Bert read I am not comfortable with putting Saki as town.

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wait, morph is a cabd hydra?

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PoE was being used for Saki along with gut. The fact that I went through Bert's ISO and couldn't find anything that stuck out to me did decrease VA's read. I will call anyone I have a gut read town on town if I think I have already found all the scum but with only 1 scum read i don't feel like I can absolutely call VA town.

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I give subs the benefit of the doubt because I know I suck at playing town sometimes. Since you just added a person and they are completely new I can check for correlations between your posts now.

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how is that a scum slip?

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Nobody wants to read my Saki interpretation? I worked somewhat not hard at all on it but would still like some acknowledgement.

I read it. Isn't Saki always Anti-town? That is what I have been told and know from what little experience I have. How is his play any different then normal? He made useless posts which I believe is normal.

For people who want to vote me instead of Saki. I think the implication is that if Saki is scum then I am pretty much confirmed scum at that point since I am protecting them. So in theory you can get more information from a Saki lynch than you can from my lynch.

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I am Town 1-shot Friendly Neighbor.

I used my action last night, bet you can't guess who i used it on.

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so we have beast claiming scum

Where did I claim scum?

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Monosuke is who i used my action on. That is why when they died I was sad. I didn't expect them to die I actually thought most people wanted them to be lynched. I thought they were town but in the off chance they were scum I could catch them by seeing if they told everyone I used my action on them and that I was confirmed town. If they came right out with their first post saying I am town, then I could have claimed and that would have given us two confirmed town people.

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It is actually true.

While we have time, want to help me improve my town game since I am clearly no good at it?

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Also, who pretends to be a 1 shot friendly neighbor?

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When was the last time you saw some one fake claim friendly neighbor?

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I suck at playing town especially if I am a PR. Do you all have any advice?