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Post Post #820 (isolation #0) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:31 pm

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Hey everyone,

I'm your new friendly neighborhood SE replacement. I will be staying with you until the end of the game.

Thanks for the welcome.
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Post Post #828 (isolation #1) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:47 pm

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In post 822, Mr_Ree wrote:Hey Peabody. Welcome to the game

While you catch up, please list your reads along with the page number you have read up to. If you do that every 10ish pages, we should be able to follow your reads and compare them to what was happening at that time.

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You really think its helpful for me to list my reads as I read?

I personally didn't see a use for them to be listed until I'm done.

I'm on page six and have a scum read on Satan.
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Post Post #829 (isolation #2) » Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:48 pm

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Also on Null. Kinda.
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Post Post #832 (isolation #3) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:33 am

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Will do, but give me some time to catch up.
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Post Post #844 (isolation #4) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:58 pm

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This is a post detailing my thoughts on Day 1, pages 1-10 as requested.


I noted prior to reading the thread that Sthar8, 2Pac, and I are town, so you will not see me questioning any of their alignments.

Nominull:

Nominull's refusal to post content until 2Pac stops his act is silly. It's also scummy for the reason my predecessor pointed out. Additionally, 2Pac did have a good point on Nomi's vote on a lurker. It seems as if Nomi doesn't even want to find scum.

Fuzzy:

I don't like Fuzzy's taking credit for toning down 2pac. It just rubs me the wrong way.

My first thought on his accusation that Mr.Ree is a bad player is that it looks like a town move, but now I see it as more scummy. This is the definition of an OMGUS. It's kind of ironic because he accuses Mr.Ree of the same thing here.

Fuzzy's =22365#p5318780]push on Sthar8 looks fabricated. =22365#p5320249]He didn't see the fakehammer as a reaction test? Not even a little?

Oh wait, nevermind. He saw the error of his ways.

Mr.Ree:

His reaction test looks like a reaction test. I don't think it should be seen as anything else. And I certainly do love what results:

SatanHellYeah:

The following posts look like Satan unintentionally slipped his alignment. All bolded words are bolded by me for emphasis:
In post 14, SatanHellYeah wrote:Nah, that can't be serious.
This is in reaction to Mr.Ree's test. It looks like Satan is trying to convince himself that Mr.Ree
couldn't have found him already
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In post 22, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote:Yes , it is.....

Its does not nessarilly means he is scummy but it might . Sometimes townies pulls the OMGUS card especially new townies.. Cant figure out yet if Satan is scum or just a nervous newbie. At this point it could go either way.
In post 23, SatanHellYeah wrote:I would feel offended but
I messed up there.
No complains.
This doesn't look right.
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In post 41, SatanHellYeah wrote:There's not a single way I could defend the "I'm not scum" possition. Therefore,
there is no point in denying it.
But, well, I am not scum indeed dammit. And you know it. Are you just searching for an excuse or something?
I just don't like this.
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In post 77, SatanHellYeah wrote:
In post 73, archaebob wrote:
In post 71, SatanHellYeah wrote:

Sorry. I thought I made it clear. I strongly think Skelda is scum.
Then why aren't you voting for him?
Because I didn't want to make any accusations while being in the spotlight.

But, well, I don't care. VOTE: Skelda

tl;dr: 10 pages in and my strongest scum read is on SatanHellYeah. If Satan is scum, there's a strong chance Nominull is scum. Those are my strongest reads so far.
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Post Post #845 (isolation #5) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 2:04 pm

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Though I have scum reads on both Satan and Nomi individually, the way they are interacting suggests I could be 100% right on my scum team guess.

This is suggested by Satan's straight null read on Nomi, and then this:
In post 192, SatanHellYeah wrote:@Nominull
I'm afraid that you will get lynched at this rate. You need to contribute. If not, you're probably dying today.
However, this is only in case Satan is scum. I just figured I'd point this out now while I can.

Also, 10 pages in, if Satan is scum, Skelda is probably town.
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Post Post #851 (isolation #6) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:05 pm

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No problem, Fuzzy.

Scum reads are Satan and Nominull.

If one of these players is town, I think you're probably scum.

As I'm continuing my reading past page 10, Skelda is doing some questionable things, but I will explain in my next post. I know that's a lot of scum reads, but those four are the most questionable in my opinion so far.
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Post Post #852 (isolation #7) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:07 pm

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I'm mainly pointing out things as I see them when I see them via 10page post intervals. My reads will likely change as I go through the thread.
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Post Post #859 (isolation #8) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:29 pm

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Skelda
- This post doesn't sit right with me. You wanted to lynch either fuzzy or bob, but then you don't want to put fuzzy at L-1?


Ranaway
- How do you change from convinced of Fuzzy's innocence to thinking he was scum based on this"little lie" case?
It seems like something quite minor to change your mind about him for.

Also, can you explain why you question someone who is too town-sided?
In post 412, Ranawey wrote:Sorry about my absence, there's a lot of things going on irl.

I've got a feeling that we can't trust Regfan at all, he seems too townsided, but oh well, I can't be sure, it's just a feeling.

Anyways, he did spot satan's scumslip, and I agree with that, and also feel dumb because of not noticing it, heh. Anyways, I won't put him on L-1 until he answers Reg's accusations.

I'll just unvote for now.

Unvote
This post from
Nominull
is pushing for a lynch on 2Pac to get him out of the running for Lylo. I don't like it.

And
Fuzzylogic's
willingness to policy lynch is not good. This looks like scum opening their options for a vote on a town. Policy lynches suck. Also, I quite enjoyed 2pac, and I don't think his posting was as distracting as people kept saying it was. He really did have some content in his posts. You just have to
read
it.

Also, Fuzzy looks like he tries derail the wagon on Satan here. If Satan is scum, Fuzzy can also be scum.

I love my predecessor's reads, and in particular, I like his posting about Nominull. This is true that though his posting is anti-town, it would be intentionally putting the spotlight on yourself if you were scum. Hmm.
Here's another possible derail attempt on Satan's wagon by
Nominull
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Another scumslip by
Satan
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In post 413, SatanHellYeah wrote:@Regfan
So, basically, I am scum because my real intentions are a fake. My vote on Bob, did it actually put him at L-1? Didn't notice. I'd probably haven't done it if I had knew about it.
The point is, I really never thought he was scum. You are the living proof of him being town.
I might be bad, but not scum. However, I don't think I am going to change your mind. Your read is very solid.
I deserve to be lyched as much as Skelda, for my behavior is not transparent enough.
So let me propose this. Let's lynch him. Maybe when he turns scum you will believe in my innocence. Maybe you won't
Please, reconsider your read.

Let me see if I can make anything clearer, but I'm posting from my phone, so it will take a.while.
Emphasis mine.

Mr.Ree
, why do you think a Nominull flip would tell you more than a Satan flip? Nominull has only at the point of this post talked about 2pac. And a little bit on Satan. How do you justify this post?
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Post Post #860 (isolation #9) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:29 pm

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The above post is from pages 11-20.
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Post Post #861 (isolation #10) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:37 pm

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SatanHellYeah wrote:A real claim. But how do I do a real claim if I am neither roleblocker nor goon.
SatanHellYeah wrote:I am seriously not getting it.
SatanHellYeah wrote:I think I got it.
I can be so stupid sometimes.

I am a Vanilla Townie. So I guess that's all.
Welp. This
could
be a town-slip, but I more see this as Satan not knowing the name of the role he was supposed to claim until he looked at the sample role pms.
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Post Post #864 (isolation #11) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:08 pm

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What was your previous post in reference to? It wasn't clear.
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Post Post #865 (isolation #12) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:11 pm

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Oh sorry, I meant the post before last.
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Post Post #866 (isolation #13) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:12 pm

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But how would a Nomi lynch give us more information than a Satan lynch or any one else really?
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Post Post #871 (isolation #14) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:17 pm

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The sudden build-up on the 2Pac lynch.

I'm preparing to read this portion, assured I will see something scummy. 2Pac hasn't been a top lynch choice for anyone but Nominull all game if I'm recalling correctly. Here we go:

Skelda agrees that 2Pac could be a good compromise lynch based on his possible association with Satan.

Ranawey's vote is based on... what now? You said he was "highly likely scum". Why?

Fuzzy's based on what? A need for a lynch?

I want to let these three sit here for now. The above is for note-taking.
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Annnnd another post I don't like by Satan:
SatanHellYeah wrote:*Sigh...*

I guess you're right, Nom, and I won't get Skelda today. But if I have to choose between you and 2pac, I'll sadly vote you...

Waiting for the others to post, though. Specially sthar8. Where in hell is this guy?
What's your reasoning for waiting to vote until the rest post?


It's probably appropriate for me to write notes on the current day in a new post. So this post is from page 21 to lynch (Page 26).
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Post Post #873 (isolation #15) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:47 pm

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In post 644, Mr_Ree wrote:You believe Reg's case that even Reg dropped because it was too full of logic holes and Wifom?

Did you not see how re refused to lynch 2pac because he had a town read on him. AT DEADLINE. When he could have hammered if he was scum with little to no suspicion. That's HARD town right there. Voting Satan at this point is basically a scum claim. Did you not se my other reasoning for him being town that even caused Regfan to change his read?
I was planning on replying to this, mentioning that Satan's refusal to vote was based on self-interest, but I realize that the post I was going to use as ammunition looks like a post made by town. If Satan knew 2pac wasn't scum, I find a hard time believing Satan would come up with this post. He was
scared
2pac would flip scum.

Hmm... Satan just went from scumscumscum to probably town.

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Skelda
Skelda wrote: Look, no one else seems to want to take any responsibility for the lynch, but, at the time, he was the most scummy, and I still stamd by it, even after he flipped. If you want to blame me or find that scummy, fine. But I wasn't the only one who voted for 2Pac...
Do you mind explaining why 2pac was the most scummy on day 1? You said he was town multiple times. But you also toyed with the idea he was scum. Please explain.
Skelda wrote:I voted for 2Pac because, honestly, he deserved it. I'm not succumbing to that. I thought 2Pac was bad, and he wasn't. I'm not apologizing for that and anyone who does is scummy.
Do you have a scum read on Fuzzy then?

Nevermind. You do by this post. Is not being apologetic the only reason for thinking Fuzzy is scum?

Skelda feels the need to reiterate this unapologetic lynch on 2pac. It looks like a lousy line of defense.



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Fuzzy wrote:He seem to do whatever he could to get the 2Pac lynch. Honestly I wonder if he thought 2Pac might be the cop and thats why he went after him so hard. If 2pac turned out to a VT than he had an extra try during the night. Not saying this is the case but I cant help but wonder. Regs just reads scum in my humble opinion.
Hm.

I don't care for this post by fuzzy either. You felt your hand was forced under the threat of being found scummy later?

But I do like this:
Fuzzy wrote: i am still waiting on either Reg showing up to defend himself or someone to make a case for Reg being a townie.
He's looking for a reason to call my slot town. It's more likely town would do this than scum.
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Post Post #874 (isolation #16) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:50 pm

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I'm all caught up now.
In post 872, TheFuzzylogic99 wrote: I know you cant answer for your predecessor....but he was the one who started the 2pac wagon. Nom was the only one on it and I would say if he did not jump on the wagon with Nom 2pac would still be still alive....More likely than not Satan or Nom would of been lynched. Saying all that what do you make of Regs sudden push on 2Pac with the help of Skelda? Just looking for your opinion so please do not take this as an attack.
I would have rather had Reg keep pushing on Satan than to vote for 2pac. I don't think his push on 2pac was good because I feel it wasn't enough for a lynch. As for how he was acting, my guess is that could be explained by how emotionally involved he was in his reads.

Also, hey. I'm going to hammer Skelda. He's probably scum.

vote Skelda
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Post Post #875 (isolation #17) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:51 pm

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Meh, I should have waited til he answered my questions.

Oh well, I still have a hunch it will be a scum flip.
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Post Post #876 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:53 pm

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Shoot, that was a really impulsive hammer.

I'm sorry if Skelda is town.
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Post Post #879 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:38 pm

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It's definitely possible if Skeda is scum.

I just regret hammering him so quickly after I caught up.

It truly was impulsive.

I was trying to convince myself he is scum when I said he probably will flip scum. We'll see if my convincing of myself is correct.

If Skeda flips scum, Nomi could be scum too. Satan would be town. Probably Fuzzy would be town too.

If he's town, we'd benefit from a VCA.
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Post Post #883 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:15 pm

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For the town and for my life, I hope I'm right.
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Post Post #884 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:19 pm

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Based on Nominull's post, I wouldn't be surprised if Mr_Ree lives tonight.

If one of the two are scum.
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