Newbie 1436 ~ Game Over

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IC is scum.

Vote goodmorning

Lay off my partner ns and I'll relent.

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Hi. I'm letting you all know right now, I have Asperger's Syndrome. I may make mistakes that the rest of you won't, like misreading certain signs. However, I may also notice things that others don't, like tiny, tiny abnormalities in people's posts. Please don't attack me if I say something that you don't like, or that offends you.

Well, now that that's over...

Vote: agi

...for too many EBWOPs.

I'll do my best, but I can't promise anything. Sorry.

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Agi, you're now my #1 scumread.

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Gravija, when you do something/wrong scummy, you can't just justify the whole thing by saying "I have Asperger's."

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~reasons~ and it is best left at that.

I'm simply saying that you're wrong. I'm not treating you as inferior, I'm treating you as the latest in a long line of people to say they suspect me.

PEDIT STOP RUINING MY FUN GM ;-;

Stop buddying gm, thanks. It's making me lean on him and scum on you.

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Nah, I'm not gonna vote you unless you continue to do it.

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Vote: Cabd

This game's looking good.

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Does anyone notice how TSO got called out for his shtick about me then instantly nakedvotes without so much as a reason on Cabd?

I called TSO out for doing something arguably scummy, then he nakedvotes! This type of unconservative play is strongly alignned with standard scum play.[/SARCASM]

Come and play for real, TSO. Throwing out a vote on me for no stated reason is a bit low quality given your usual play as town.

Actually, my play in Newbies tends to be not-so-great. Laziness and an "unusual" (read: scummy) playstyle mean them and I don't always gel.

But this game's gonna be different.

Vote: Cabd

This game's looking good.

You're not. :/

Why do you think Cabd is Town?

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Not too much to catch up on, though. Looks like you guys managed to transition out of RVS nicely.


This is the part where I play scummy all day one, obvtown it up in twilight, and get shot at night one, right?

Sup. We're here to wreck shit.

AND I PROMISE NOT TO KILL YOU THIS TIME GM I KNOW MY PAST RECORD OF KILLING YOU DEAD SUCKS BUT HEY AT LEAST I ENDGAMED YOU LAST TIME

Ok, so Sakura and Gravija don't understand this gambit. That's ok.

Also, link me to a game where someone has been replaced for idiocy.

Treat me like i'm five years old. Explain exactly what you hope to accomplish with this gambit of yours. How will town react? How will scum react? How do you account for false positives, and what percent chance do you feel it has of working?


Lots of players here know me as somebody who has done quite a few gambits, including claiming scum as scum, so from one gambit guy to another, tell me what you want out of this.,

Light townread on cliche, agi looks like day one lynchfodder of choice.

Sakura, you have until page 15 to be obvtown.

Ffery has until the end of this page to form a townbloc.

And notsci, you seem vaguely more interested in this game than some of your recent finished ones. You scum bro?

Light townread on cliche, agi looks like day one lynchfodder of choice.

ffery/GM, thoughts on these two? Notsci, do you agree with cliche-read?

Come and play for real, TSO. Throwing out a vote on me for no stated reason is a bit low quality given your usual play as town.

These quotes basically give me a gut feeling of scum.

It's like you're constantly using psychology to put yourself in the Town driving seat and I just get a bad feeling from it.

PEdit: yeah ffery, I do.

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Why do you think Cabd is Town?

Oh hai!

I don't. Not yet anyway. Do you think Cabd is scum?

Up to this post, you've been pretty opaque and non-interactive.

Another way to ask you the question I meant was: why don't you think Cabd is scum?

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Ill vote when I'm ready. I don't want a shithammer this game like varsoon did last newbie I subbed into.

Who do you think in this game would be a risk of doing that?

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Bert, why so Town?

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notscience is my sheep, though.

indirectly you are of my herd.

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Sakura-Cabd team.

Game nailed.

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TSO you have literally done jack shit this game don't even pretend like this is you

You're his scumbuddy though /shrug

I called Cabd as scum first, while you were busy barking up the wrong tree (me).

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So who's the shepherd? You? Don't make me laugh.

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Besides, making a case wouldn't even be hard for Cabd this game. Him going from foolish-town to lazy-scum on me with no change, Sakura's odd play in regards to him, his ott jokiness upon ffery's arrival etc. all make convincing points.

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Sakura, what do you think of Cabd's stance-changing and odd behaviour towards ffery?

And I'm more confident on Cabd than I am on you.

PEDIT: Either is okay, but Cabd's better.

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I'm gonna sheep here a sec, don't mind me.
VOTE: Cabd

Why not just lynch me instead since i haven't read anything to being really busy (save a few posts last page), instead of someone that's actually contributing?

This has a town feel.

When do you expect to be able to post more?

I'm not trying to be a dick but this is standard Sakura, to be honest.

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As in, occasional suicidal tendencies in-game.

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Scum

T S O - aggressively low content, and reacted to pokes about content by showering the thread with...content

Vote: T S O

TSO has no content. He was asked for content, so he gave content. Therefore, he's scum.

What the fuck is this?

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It turns out, if you take gatorade powder, but use vodka instead of water because fuck water, that the end result is really good.

In other news, i'm still town as fuck, so screw you TSO. You won't be able to mislynch me.

Nah.

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I don't have the impression that town T S O is all that accommodating.

But you're calling me scum.

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T S O is very Jason Wazza like from what I remember of 1462. I played scum with him for like 2/3 of Day 1 during that game.

Do you think I'm scum here? If I am, what are my meta similarities?

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I don't have the impression that town T S O is all that accommodating.

But you're calling me scum.

Yes. I didn't expect town-you to step it up to such an extent right after I called you on your lack of content.

Also, you deflected my post about Sakura coming off a little townish in the post you characterized as self-sacrificing.

You focused on the self-sacrificing aspect and totally ignored that it was a defense of Cabd. Why would one scum baldly volunteer to be the lynch when the other scum is coming under fire?

Why do you think I'm lazy as Town?

And I think Sakura would try it because she knows the reaction it elicits. I think she'd try it because it specifically got a reaction out of you in a game I cannot talk about for various reasons.

If I get replaced for saying that, fuck you mod.

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I'm kinda surprised you're still playing in games because you got replaced out in several games and didn't appear to be that interested in continuing any games you were in, to be honest with you.

Well what happened was I was on a week hiatus which was completely out of the blue. I had 0 net access for a week and didn't post v/la so I got multisubbed.

Enthusiasm is never a problem, m'boy.

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A finished Town game where I played well would be Mini 1475.
One where I played badly (see: lazy) would be Newbie 1424 ( -__-)

As for scum games I have 1 completed one. It might not help you seeing as I replaced in, made a bad decision and basically auto-lost. That's Newbie 1401.
A scum game where I played decently before getting subbed would be Micro 188.

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No, step 3 is the problem.

Sakura does that as a suicidal play because

she knows it works on you.

And it's working right now.

Sakura isn't going to flip because if I went for her then Cabd would turn on me for going for an "easy lynch." It works both ways.

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When you're asked for content and then you give it, isn't that a sign of someone who wants to show their thought process?

Ffery, I want your opinion on Sakura, opinion on Cabd, and opinion of them as a scumteam.

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T S O if you stop engaging me after I take my vote off you I'm going to be pissed.

Don't worry. I'll always be here.

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Ffery can I have meta of Sakura doing it as scum and as Town?

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the last link you gave messed up all my preconceptions about Sakura's hammering as alignment.

damn.

you're sure you can read it? I don't want to know how, I just want to know.

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the last link you gave messed up all my preconceptions about Sakura's hammering as alignment.

damn.

you're sure you can read it? I don't want to know how, I just want to know.

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the last link you gave messed up all my preconceptions about Sakura's hammering as alignment.

damn.

you're sure you can read it? I don't want to know how, I just want to know.

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ugh triple post. gdi.

Am I voting Cabd?

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Funnily enough I literally never noticed Kaze come in.

I don't understand why I'm scum though.

The good news is, Kaze agrees on my scumteam. So she can sheep me and ride to Townland.

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Bert, I'm too nice? Since when have I been mean? >_>

PEDIT: LIKE 6 POSTS, STOP POSTING FOR 5 SECS

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Bert, who exactly do you think is scum? I'm not getting it from your stances, so spell it out.

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I have a reputation as an absolute penis, I think.

NS do you want to give some reasoning to how I'm hardbussing and why?

brb catching up.

pedit: newbie 1398, I replaced in but good play from JasonWazza got scum Kaze lynched in LyLo. I didn't know how to play Tracker.

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How- voting Cabd without actively pushing people to vote him

Why- towncred

PEDIT

SEE

This makes no sense.

I want towncred for bussing Cabd, according to you. And my method of doing this is to proclaim myself as the leader of his wagon. (Which you've actually done for cred, you filthy hypocrite.) But I don't actually want Cabd's lynch to go through so despite championing the lynch I'm actively hoping it will fail.

What a load of bullshit.

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And I'm gonna address right here that my wagon is a load of shit. Who's on it? Scum Cabd, who's pushing my lynch since I'm pushing his. Kazekimaru, who's catch-up contained

not one post showing me to be scum

, whose case on me is "I feel different and my townreads are on your wagon." Then when he finds out his townreads

aren't

on my wagon he smiles and just stays on it, proving HE DOESN'T NEED A REASON TO PUSH THE WAGON BECAUSE HE HAS NOTHING. He's stuck on it now and he can't get off it. notscience, who's pigheaded case on me is a direct attempt by him to gain all the credit when Cabd flips scum (he's town, just selfish) and goodmorning, who just switched onto the wagon because he thought he might get away with it.

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I was trying to illustrate notscience's mindset to the TSO-Cabd scumteam.

As you've seen yourself, it's bull.

My vitriol is a tell of anger, not of alignment.

PEdit: let's lynch Cabd and find out.

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So Sakura, who WOULD you lynch?

Why am I even asking?

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notscience, please. let's try to be useful.

as of now, all you've done is tunnel my scumread and try to take credit for it. which is great, but makes you pretty useless all the same.

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So Sakura, who WOULD you lynch?

Why am I even asking?

Yea why are you asking if it's obvious who I want lynched.

I was thinking along the lines of with a Cabd-you scumteam, anything not him would be good.#

NS, I'll talk to you tomorrow.

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Kazekimaru

Literally, he jumped back on the wagon with no reasoning whatsoever.

He's literally laughing and spitting in our faces by doing that.

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Cabd's been constantly activity posting but he's obviously fucking lurking. He'd have 5 mins to do something, somehow. Despite him apparently not following, he's not going to unvote the wagon with most votes. goodmorning still has literally NOTHING on me. Nothing.

Also, I meant

Vote: Kazekimaru

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Well I think this is Town v Town unless one of {Sakura, T S O} flips Town in which case Cabd (tinysmall chance ffery) is Scum.

He's calling me and Sakura Town at this stage, but then says if we flip Town then Cabd or ffery are scum.

186 - Why, though?

Because.
I am thoroughly satisfied with a lynch on either one (the other is T S O, obvs) at this point and so will continue to sway between them until it becomes clear which one is today's lynch (probably T S O, probably the better option).

I don't get the tactic here.

It's not really a "tactic" as such. I just happened to have equal scumreads on them at the time.

Vote: T S O

I think I'm already voting him but just to be sure and also obvious...

BUT: Why didn't you address Sakura in your end-of-post readslist?

Forgot. She's eh.

I see.

Yet your post after this feels genuinely resigned so, leaning town now.

Is resignation a towntell? Can Scum never be resigned?

- Why was GM's lack of activity troubling?

Normally, and especially as Town, I'll have one of the higher postcounts in a game, as I tend to post reactively (that is, to increase my posting when others post more).
So I'm guessing that.

Or what ffery said.

- What is "trajectory"?

It's a thing whereby you look at the development of someone's reads and decide whether it looks realistic for Town.

Or apparently it's on the wiki as well.

- There is metric fucktons more metaing in this game than I'm used to. I'm not good with metaing people. I really dislike this.

Some people fall more on the logic side than the gut side. Nothing to be worried about, just decide how much stock you want to put into other people's claimed meta of everyone.

Plus what ffery said.

i don't know what to post
i apologize for shitposting

I've forgotten your reads already. Could you do me a favour and post them again?

Also what Kaze said.

186 - Why, though?

Because.
I am thoroughly satisfied with a lynch on either one (the other is T S O, obvs) at this point and so will continue to sway between them until it becomes clear which one is today's lynch (probably T S O, probably the better option).

I don't get the tactic here.

Reading this again I'm not sure why I drew such a blank reading this. Pretty straight forward.

I can kinda see why, because it's not the most sensible play tbh but there it is.

Yet here, we're both scum.

Sakura, you know what? You're not even scum anymore.

Cabd, Kaze, gm. There's your team within that.

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And Kaze's fake paranoia is hilariously bad.

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I did misinterpret that.

Your lack of anything resembling an accusation, a case, etc. means I'm concluding you have nothing.

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Bert I'm telling you, it's a TSO/Cabd scumteam.

You want to fucking go TSO?

Because I'll lynch your sorry scumfuck ass before you before you can even blink!

You have done jack shit for Cabd, you voted him.

You had no reasonings.

You had no standings.

Nothing.

And guess who got all of that shit.

Me.

So sit down and wait to be lynched, scumfuck.

I fixed the caps off so I could quote this later without burning my eyes.

Sakura-Cabd team.

Game nailed.

How did you nail them, and why do you feel that this team is scum?

Cabd's frivolities were far too forced. I felt Sakura's suicidalness was a sign of them being scumpartners but ffery managed to change my mind.

I was thinking along the lines of with a Cabd-you scumteam, anything not him would be good.#

NS, I'll talk to you tomorrow.

And why tomorrow, not today? Your reads stagnated, much like GM's.

Tomorrow, as in literal, not game state. Which is today. And my reads are quite transparent at this stage.

Bert I'm telling you, it's a TSO/Cabd scumteam.

Double bus?
I WON'T BELIEVE IT
THIS ISN'T HAPPENING

I couldn't read if this was sarcasm or not. Do you think there is a double bus or not?

Exactly my point Agi.

Cabd loves to take what the assumed-meta of a role is and invert the fuck out of it.

And TSO loves to get a scum PM with one of the strongest players in the game and immediately hard-bus the slot.

You have no meta provided to show either of these things. All you have is baseless conjecture.

Sure I'm caught up

I don't have special thoughts about anyone

I'd use my vote if I did

Didn't you do this before, see people call you Town for it and do it again?

God, you're town.

It's what I call the "intimidation factor." Why is Cabd resorting to this, and is it alignment-indicative or a tell in any way, shape, or form? Surely, this looks like it's supposed to arouse fear in the other and persuade someone to back down from attacking him?

Why not talk it out, or at least be more reachable for everyone

Tell me what you think, please?

Looks awkward, yes. Belligerent. Not sure if alignment-indicative, though.

So why do you think town-Cabd would be motivated to do it?

notscience, please. let's try to be useful.

as of now, all you've done is tunnel my scumread and try to take credit for it. which is great, but makes you pretty useless all the same.

lol. Do you always throw out insults when you feel like people are on to you?

How is this an insult and not the truth? Yet again, you fail to justify your accusation with anything solid.

@Bert - Why do you continue to call me a she? ._.

Unvote

This wagon. I don't like it anymore. Bad feels.

My next choice would be Cabd, but TSO and ns are on it and I don't know what to make of that. I haven't liked ns lately. Perhaps I'm overthinking it. Perhaps not.

Meh. Vote floats.

I'm just gonna try to show the progression of you pushing a mislynch.

Here, you say my wagon gives you a bad feeling. Paranoia, then. You get off it and you go to your next suspect, Cabd. But his wagon gives you a bad feeling too. Fake paranoia - if my wagon is problematic, then I'm town being mislynched. Therefore, me being on the Cabd wagon has no grounds for worry. It's not conducive to how a Town player thinks.

- I'm really not comfortable putting down a vote quite yet. I'd have left it on TSO if he weren't on L-1. Newbie games tend to have derphammers.

- I really don't know.

- TSO. Though I'd be comfortable with either, I'm not familiar with Cabd or his play. All I know of him is that he's a meta player. I've at least played with TSO and feel like his play here is inconsistent with his town play I remember.

And what were your observations of me as either alignment? What's the difference? Why is this relevant?

In this post, you slowly edge back over to the wagon you realised you made a mistake getting off. You try to justify unvoting by claiming paranoia of newbie derphammers, but there are basically no newbies in this game. Again, it's fake. Your mindset makes no sense as Town.

VOTE: TSO

I'm tired of agonizing over this wagon. And I didn't realize how close we are to deadline. >.> TSO is scum. He needs to hang. Wagon analysis be damned. #yolo

And here, you finally get back on the wagon you were edging back to on #525.

I hope it's obvious to everyone how bullshit Kaze voting me is. He got off the wagon at first

by claiming paranoia with the people on it. Then it was that he was afraid of derphammers. And now, he's back on the wagon.

despite the exact same people who he was originally "paranoid" of still on it.

There are far too many inconsistencies in his stances to be coming from a Town mindset.

Hi. While there's formalities tomorrow morning, I'm somewhat sorta kinda mostly a free man right now.

While I catch up:

Hey bert, why are you continuing to ask the same question of me when it has been asked and answered? You aren't expecting a different answer, are you? You keep pushing it to make me look bad and that's not okay bro.

Hey, can I ask you something?

Why haven't you commented on, anything if you're a "free man?"

You're trying to lurk out the day and keep your hands clean.

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I'm not going to claim. Go back to sheeping me, ns. Or get on Kaze/GM. One of them either.

PEdit: you still haven't made anything. All you can do is fling mud. It's not going to work either.

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And TSO loves to get a scum PM with one of the strongest players in the game and immediately hard-bus the slot.

You have no meta provided to show either of these things. All you have is baseless conjecture.

Wrong, nice attempt to misconstrue.

Cabd was a replacement.

And you jump INITIALLY to "it's not my meta to do that as scum!"

Self-scum meta?

lolno

Consider this an intent to hammer.

Was I attacking Cabd's slot or Cabd? Cabd. So him replacing in has, in fact, more relevance to my case than to yours.

You're making a connection based on playstyle. I asked for meta of either playstyle.

You have neither.[/B] So you spew "SELF-META UR SCUM!" instead.

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fucking italics.

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I was disappointed that I got lynched d1, seeing as it was a compromise-type lynch and I couldn't get on for it.

My reads were absolute trash this game. I was right on notscience and Bert, wrong on Cabd, wrong on Sakura, wrong on ffery and so wrong on d2 Wisdom. I was literally grinning at his genius right until the flip of Cabd.

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Wisdom was obvious scum after d2.

In fairness, I doubt anyone in this whole game would have pegged you, ffery.

Also I laughed when you typed out reasoning and then scumhammered. Cautious to the last.