Micro 246: Chosen Mafia (N2!)

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #39 (isolation #0) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:08 am

Vote: Darger

I like the new avatar!

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #41 (isolation #1) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:16 am

In post 32, mastin2 wrote:My vote on MY newbie, though, that I want to discuss.

I don't know why you're voting our newbie tbh.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #45 (isolation #2) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:13 am

i will not mislynch projectmatt
i will not mislynch projectmatt
i will not mislynch projectmatt
i will not mislynch projectmatt

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #51 (isolation #3) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:25 pm

In post 47, Sound of Silence wrote:Therein lies a tale, I guess.

The height of mislynching him was a case set to Adele's "rolling in the deep".

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #52 (isolation #4) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:26 pm

I think Magenta is scum

I'm getting too many townreads.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #86 (isolation #5) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:25 pm

In post 53, projectmatt wrote:Nacho, what are your townreads?

everyone who posted.

In post 70, Sound of Silence wrote:because we're NEVER thinking the same thing on page 3 of a game. I'm pretty sure that's never happened before.

When you're agreeing with Mara, you're probably wrong.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #87 (isolation #6) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:25 pm

Mastin's opening to us reminded me of my opening to 2 in hunterxhunter, and I'm pretty sure I was town as fuck there.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #91 (isolation #7) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:28 pm

In post 89, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 86, Nachomamma8 wrote:When you're agreeing with Mara, you're probably wrong.
You'll need to expand on this a little.

It was a joke.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #92 (isolation #8) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:28 pm

In post 90, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 87, Nachomamma8 wrote:Mastin's opening to us reminded me of my opening to 2 in hunterxhunter, and I'm pretty sure I was town as fuck there.
Yes but that was one person vs half the village.

So?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #93 (isolation #9) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:29 pm

In post 88, magenta_thegreat wrote:I get this too.

of course you do you scumbag

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #95 (isolation #10) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:32 pm

No. It's weird but I didn't think it was scummy. What mastin was subtly hinting at was for us to not be at each other's throats D1, because all of us are worthy of generating paranoia in our own special ways, but there's enough of us in game where a death of any of us N1 isn't a horrendously big deal. Thus, we search for the partner today and hope that 2 of our little group didn't roll scum.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #97 (isolation #11) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:35 pm

I understand where it comes from; fuck no I don't agree with it. There's a potential in me picking up on ffery-scum or tammy-scum day 1 and being 95% confident in the lynch so hell yeah I'm gonna lynch it if I see it.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #100 (isolation #12) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:36 pm

In post 98, Sound of Silence wrote:I don't see any towniness from TIP's reaction and those were null at best.

You're blind.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #101 (isolation #13) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:37 pm

In post 14, TheIrishPope wrote:Mastin's opening reminds me of his opening in Walking Dead.
Weird.

^^^^
not a scum tip post.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #104 (isolation #14) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:39 pm

he can be arrogant as fuck as town bro

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #108 (isolation #15) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:42 pm

fuck no

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #113 (isolation #16) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:46 pm

Then you're expecting the wrong things.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #119 (isolation #17) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 6:03 pm

In post 117, Tammy wrote:OMG but you know he's arrogant as fuck scum too.

but he can be arrogant as fuck as town.
thus calling him scum for being arrogant is...
dumb as fuck.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #142 (isolation #18) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:00 pm

In post 81, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 52, Nachomamma8 wrote:I think Magenta is scum
I'm getting too many townreads.
NOT AGAIN.

PLEASE.

In retrospect, I don't like this. Turning me attacking orcinus into me always attacking orcinus (especially when I'm not attacking him directly but instead indirectly through the towniness of others) seems strange. At first I thought it was coming from Mara :/

In post 121, Tammy wrote:
In post 116, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 106, Tammy wrote:NACHOOOOOOOO - VOTE MASTIN WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!!
Have you explained your rationale?
Why are you trying to disrupt my ability to get a read on mastin or nacho?

Trying to sort me normally seems like a better idea than trying to sort me in this weird way.

In post 124, Sound of Silence wrote:@Nacho, we had Mastin wrong early in the Walking Dead game. I remember that his buddying/pushing a townbloc in that game made me a little paranoid but on day 1/2 you were thinking town. It took a couple more days to get to a scum read.

We think this game his approach is a little different. Do you think so? If so, do you think the differences point to town-mastin

I think it's a lot different. I know he's been playing with different openings lately and not all of them are necessarily alignment-indicative, but this one was strongly town to me. As scum, his motivation would be to mask his partner out in the open, which is sort of dumb and not actually helpful at all, but the motivation is town as hell and similar to how I planned on opening the game, so the difference is mastin telling me he's inside my head and actually being inside my head.

In post 137, magenta_thegreat wrote:you don't count the last couple games, sure. I can read him just fine, and probably better than anyone else.

Probably. Hence you scumreading him is not such a good thing because I am decently confident in my ability to read him, especially earlygame. He seems pretty town here.

In post 137, magenta_thegreat wrote:maybe Ffery, though her scum-play is better in Hydra IIRC, and she sure as hell has gotten better at unifying her two different games (I blame C) so you would be the most ideal Veto,

Setting up for Ffery paranoia?

In post 137, magenta_thegreat wrote:plus a few outside of it.

In post 137, magenta_thegreat wrote:and speaking of becoming Obv town, I'm not seeing it yet. what's taking so long tammy?

What's taking so long...? It's page 7, Mara.
Or 8 or whatever.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #143 (isolation #19) » Thu Oct 10, 2013 11:02 pm

In post 129, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 115, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 112, magenta_thegreat wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p4772344

This is the stuff I expect from Mastin--self-indulgent, but not downright arrogant

Pedit: w/ mastin
Have you and mara synched? She's pushing a nacho lynch last I noticed.

Gif and I are not going to help with a Mastin vote based on arrogance being outside his town behaviors. I'll look up some games I meta'd for you later tonight or tomorrow.
Nope! I'm at school, hit mara up on skype when I first entered the thread, but no response

I feel like I was talking to Mara during this time or she was chatting in the lobby of w/e. Might be wrong on that though, and can't check now.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #149 (isolation #20) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:26 am

In post 146, magenta_thegreat wrote:and, I'm not going to get trolled by scum this game.

What does this mean?

In post 146, magenta_thegreat wrote:and I am still decently confident in my ability to read him, it'll just take a little longer than usual. His play so far has been null, I can easily see the town side but I can just as easily see the scum-side of the play, and I can see TIP easily emulating his town play

How aware of his meta do you think he is?

In post 146, magenta_thegreat wrote:you know you aren't going to get me to break with weak stuff like this. push a little harder

If I was trying to make you break, you'd be lynched 4 pages ago.

In post 146, magenta_thegreat wrote:Point?

Whatever you tried to do in that post sucked and you know it.

In post 147, magenta_thegreat wrote:if you were town with Nacho,

He is.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #150 (isolation #21) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:28 am

In post 146, magenta_thegreat wrote:you know you aren't going to get me to break with weak stuff like this. push a little harder

this shit talking is reminiscent of my own in dixon hill
i like it, but it's scummy as fuck.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #152 (isolation #22) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:31 am

ffery, you know those moments where you play a game with scum who fools you and then the next game you play with them they are town and you're like "ohhhhh, this is what their towngame looks like"? that's what happened with me wrt tip/mastin.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #153 (isolation #23) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:32 am

In post 151, TheIrishPope wrote:What does me being aware of my meta have to do with Mara? She can read right through me either way.

i am seeing right through you like i have x-ray powers
mara isn't. don't you find that troublesome?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #155 (isolation #24) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:34 am

oh and what the fuck is the scum side of tip's play?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #157 (isolation #25) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:34 am

In post 146, magenta_thegreat wrote:I can just as easily see the scum-side of the play

this desperately needs explanation.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #158 (isolation #26) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:35 am

In post 156, TheIrishPope wrote:Were you even in walking dead

And you haven't stated a read on me.

i was sangres.
answer my question and connect the dots, jacob.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #159 (isolation #27) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:36 am

i'm currently 95% sure marangal is scum but that number might be a bit high because it is early in the morning and i couldn't sleep.
i'm giving you one chance to respond to me or else i'm bringing the whole fucking house down. and i know you're around so don't "disappear" on me.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #163 (isolation #28) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:40 am

In post 160, magenta_thegreat wrote:I am not going to be trolled by scum this game

Who do you suspect is scum "trolling" you and how the hell are they trolling you?

In post 160, magenta_thegreat wrote:ok, you think we are scum, so why aren't you trying to make his happen if you are town?

i was giving you room so i didn't accidentally mislynch you.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #164 (isolation #29) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:40 am

In post 163, Nachomamma8 wrote:i was giving you room so i didn't accidentally mislynch you.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #165 (isolation #30) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:41 am

goddamnit tip

In post 100, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 98, Sound of Silence wrote:I don't see any towniness from TIP's reaction and those were null at best.
You're blind.

In post 101, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 14, TheIrishPope wrote:Mastin's opening reminds me of his opening in Walking Dead.
Weird.
^^^^
not a scum tip post.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #166 (isolation #31) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:41 am

mara
mara
i pegged you on page 6

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #167 (isolation #32) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:42 am

page

6

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #168 (isolation #33) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:44 am

In post 162, magenta_thegreat wrote:town-nacho wouldn't have this strong a read on me and not have a strong push for it

town mara reaction: "wait nacho wtf are you doing why are you reading me as scum???"
"nacho you're scum aren't you

"
"nacho you usually don't get paranoid of me so early, what's going on???"
"hmmm... i think nacho is town. i don't think he would push me so strongly so early if scum"
etc

there were so many options
but you had to choose the scumfuck reaction

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #169 (isolation #34) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:45 am

In post 161, TheIrishPope wrote:Oh right
Sanguine Resolution
Sorry i tried to get you lynched

My name
Is not
Jacob

And I still don't know your read on me

now that you know i'm reading you as town as fuck and have been for a while, what do you think of the fact mara can't?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #170 (isolation #35) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:46 am

In post 146, magenta_thegreat wrote:and I am still decently confident in my ability to read him, it'll just take a little longer than usual. His play so far has been null, I can easily see the town side but I can just as easily see the scum-side of the play, and I can see TIP easily emulating his town play

you don't waffle in your paranoia
you usually have a read based on your paranoia, or at least a clear lean
you're trying to develop trajectory on tip because you feel it's too early for you to have strong reads on him
but if you were town this game, you would be extra interested to develop a read on tip
but nope waffle house

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #171 (isolation #36) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:51 am

and go ahead, rebut it all.
tell me i'm not telling the truth with every piece, every action.
say "oh, nacho is robotic scum faking this massive passion for my lynch". you know sure as hell that's not going to fly. tammy is gonna read me as town (eventually, don't know how long it'll take her), but more importantly, ffery is going to read me as town because these are the types of moments that I can't fake. mastin is going to trust me over you (his current townread on me won't hurt in this regard), and we'll lynch you into dust.

it's over, mara.

Vote: magenta_thegreat

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #172 (isolation #37) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:55 am

that vote felt better than i thought possible.
decuple-posting because

damn

that vote felt good

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #174 (isolation #38) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:58 am

YES
you're still here, i was hoping you weren't gonna leave because pegging you as scum made me wake up the rest of the way although i'm liable to crash at like one pm

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #176 (isolation #39) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:02 am

In post 173, magenta_thegreat wrote:connect the dots Genius

connected. just wanted to find another instance of you indirectly calling me scum without chatting with me.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #177 (isolation #40) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:04 am

In post 175, magenta_thegreat wrote:You know what I pass up as a front is nothing like what goes behind the scenes

we hydra'ed together; this excuse doesn't work.

In post 175, magenta_thegreat wrote:OH HEY

X is going to read me as town eventually
^^^

scum-claim

don't bother explaining why.
save your typing powers for when we're scumbuddies again.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #179 (isolation #41) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:10 am

In post 171, Nachomamma8 wrote:and go ahead, rebut it all.
tell me i'm not telling the truth with every piece, every action.
say "oh, nacho is robotic scum faking this massive passion for my lynch". you know sure as hell that's not going to fly. tammy is gonna read me as town (eventually, don't know how long it'll take her), but more importantly, ffery is going to read me as town because these are the types of moments that I can't fake. mastin is going to trust me over you (his current townread on me won't hurt in this regard), and we'll lynch you into dust.

it's over, mara.

Vote: magenta_thegreat

i knew something was lacking before

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #181 (isolation #42) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:11 am

In post 178, magenta_thegreat wrote:You already know why

Explain for the class, then.

In post 178, magenta_thegreat wrote:yelling at this point at me mis-reading him

You haven't misread him...?

In post 178, magenta_thegreat wrote:His opening is something that he does as either alignment

and playing as if he doesn't know what is going on is something he does as scum

and something he does as town as well
meaning both of these things are... null tells!

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #182 (isolation #43) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:14 am

In post 180, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 177, Nachomamma8 wrote:we hydra'ed together; this excuse doesn't work.
Us hydra'ing makes this "excuse" that much more valid

I saw your thought process on rank evolve in real time and I know you weren't lying to me.
But hey, riddle me this: if your usual paranoia is just a "front", why did you break down the front in this game and not while we were hydraing and being open with one another?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #183 (isolation #44) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:14 am

It's also real fucked up when you can't even deny that I'm right; all you can say is "oh everything I do is a lie".

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #186 (isolation #45) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:18 am

Welcome to the game, orci! I see Mara summoned you because I have her pegged. Posture against me and try to mislynch me because there's no coming from back from this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5isFszFyUuU

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #190 (isolation #46) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:22 am

In post 187, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 120, Ms Marangal wrote:Nacho is wrong, but town and he'll eventually come to his senses and, he will eventually see that I am making sense and that I am town

In post 2529, FakeGod wrote:
Ms Marangal,
April Wingate
, aligned with
Necromancy
, surrenders Night 5.

Pedit: no, my usual paranoia isn't a front but what I present to the thread, and the reads I give out aren't always what I'm thinking. I have far more paranoia than most of the people in thread witness, and most people don't even know the extent of the paranoia I am capable

So you're lying about your read on TIP? Or this is the first time you're being honest with us and you've been lying in every single game?

In post 188, magenta_thegreat wrote:I am not concerned by nacho's retarded read on mara and I am getting less concerned about nacho.

Wrong move.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #191 (isolation #47) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:29 am

Amethyst Kitty wrote:The person Mala thought Vi Targeted D2 and shared a QT with was you Nacho. She pointed something about Vi talking about You and your wagon.

1817 was made right the moment we were talking about it and I thought she was telling me Vi found scum-you though I mis-interpreted it.

Why she didn't come out with it was because she thought you were a PR and you told Vi that in the QT resulting in Vi not wanting to out you.

It's also the biggest reason to why I wasn't at all paranoid about your alignment this game

honestly though Nacho, at least give me the credit of at least trying to get some kind of town-cred as scum when I "bus" every buddy at some point save for TNE

The remembrance scum read was mostly me.

Syry, I asked you a question earlier, but with that question I want to know how many shots you have.

In post 1906, Ms Marangal wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Sakura

lolol

haiiiii Nacho

In post 1910, Ms Marangal wrote:Oh

Hey

Darksouls

A collection of Mara responding to me flashwagonning the hell out of her as town
By: Nachomamma8

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #192 (isolation #48) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:32 am

fifteen minutes until i actually have to be a human being for a little while
chop chop scumfucks, give me more posts to sink my teeth into

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #195 (isolation #49) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:35 am

In post 194, magenta_thegreat wrote:I don't lie, I bend the truth

and you are leaving out the fact that, those are games where I have read you as town

You didn't answer my question.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #196 (isolation #50) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:39 am

ONE MORE:

In post 849, Ms Marangal wrote:You're crazy Nacho

In post 851, Ms Marangal wrote:Yes.

Nacho's crazy.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #198 (isolation #51) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:47 am

It doesn't follow site rules, unfortunately.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #203 (isolation #52) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:52 am

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2134586

Haylen wrote:
I'm really really sorry about this but after extensive discussion with a higher power, a final decision has been made. If EmpTyger allows me to post the conversation, I will do so in order to give you a full explanation as to why this decision has been made.

You watch in awe as a dark black cloud suddenly materialised in the middle of the classroom, hovering over a Clergyman with a Hoop. A clap of thunder boomed, echoing round the primarily wooden room causing the desks and bookshelves to shake and books to fall.

Half a second later, a flash of lightening appeared and struck A Clergyman with a Hoop down where he stood. His charred body lay spread angled on the floor.

A Clergyman with a Hoop has been smited on Day Two, he was a Neutral Survivor.
(he was Vanilla Townie before)

I apologise to everyone concerned.

It is now Night Two, Any and All actions should be PM'd to me by 9pm on Sunday 28th February, GMT.

Sorry.

This is what set the precedent.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #205 (isolation #53) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:53 am

In post 200, magenta_thegreat wrote:No, I'm not lying about my read on TIP, but exaggerating the paranoia I have on him this game, making it seem stronger than what it really is while keeping other stuff hidden

Then what's your read on him?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #209 (isolation #54) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:02 am

In post 197, magenta_thegreat wrote:Nacho

Would it make you feel better if I were to paste the convos mara and I have

It appears to follow site rules

My girlfriend is going to wake up in about five minutes. I'm going to sleep on this read. In the meantime, find me a good scumread. I can't see myself changing my mind about you anytime soon, but showing me the light to an amazing read is the key to me backing off. My biggest problem in buzzword bingo was that I had pretty much nowhere to maneuver, and this looks like the type of game where you might feel the same thing after a day or so. If you can do that, we'll lynch them together and we can forget this ever happened. Otherwise, you're dead.

Mara could also make an effort to be more transparent, "my tip read is classified" is obviously bullshit.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #211 (isolation #55) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:10 am

In post 210, magenta_thegreat wrote:she "is not ready" to give out her TIP read

Not ready?

In post 210, magenta_thegreat wrote:I am also not your little fucking dog

Did I treat you like a dog? I'm reaching out to you and telling you how you can break my read of you; you probably understand why I'm paranoid of her at this point and from the way she's been responding tells me that I'm probably not going to get a townread from her alone unless she's willing to work with me and do townie things. Is there a different way I could frame that to be less offensive?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #214 (isolation #56) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:13 am

In post 212, magenta_thegreat wrote:5. Darger

Nope.
Phok is a strong townread, projectmatt is a leaning townread.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #215 (isolation #57) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:15 am

The whole "one day" thing means I could see a projectmatt mislynch happening but after that your room to mislynch is pretty limited.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #234 (isolation #58) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:42 am

ffery please post.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #237 (isolation #59) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:45 am

In post 153, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 151, TheIrishPope wrote:What does me being aware of my meta have to do with Mara? She can read right through me either way.
i am seeing right through you like i have x-ray powers
mara isn't. don't you find that troublesome?

tippy

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #238 (isolation #60) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:45 am

In post 236, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 234, Nachomamma8 wrote:ffery please post.
hi

Am I crazy?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #239 (isolation #61) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:46 am

I don't feel crazy. But I am proud of magenta for being a goon by page 10.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #241 (isolation #62) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:50 am

Why did he say he thought they were town?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #242 (isolation #63) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:51 am

And what did you think of Mara's vote on me?
What do you personally think of how TIP is handling all of this? I thought you might like #225.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #245 (isolation #64) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:00 am

jacob

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #249 (isolation #65) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:06 am

In post 246, TheIrishPope wrote:GODDUCKINGDAMMIT CALL ME JACOB ONE MORE TIME

answer my question

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #251 (isolation #66) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:11 am

In post 153, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 151, TheIrishPope wrote:What does me being aware of my meta have to do with Mara? She can read right through me either way.
i am seeing right through you like i have x-ray powers
mara isn't. don't you find that troublesome?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #253 (isolation #67) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:15 am

In post 252, TheIrishPope wrote:Mara reading me incorrectly means nothing.

Why do you say this?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #255 (isolation #68) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:25 am

In post 151, TheIrishPope wrote:What does me being aware of my meta have to do with Mara? She can read right through me either way.

In post 252, TheIrishPope wrote:Mara reading me incorrectly means nothing.

?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #259 (isolation #69) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:33 am

In post 247, Sound of Silence wrote:TiP is being a scumfuck and mara doesn't have a read.

I think you might be bad at reading TIP.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #260 (isolation #70) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:33 am

In post 258, magenta_thegreat wrote:she's just being stupid and not giving it out

Is there a reason you aren't?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #267 (isolation #71) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:46 am

"scumfuck" doesn't seem to be a work ffery often uses.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #269 (isolation #72) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:47 am

In post 263, magenta_thegreat wrote:nacho

what do you think about fery?

gif seemed town.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #273 (isolation #73) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:53 am

In post 270, Sound of Silence wrote:Blame syr for scumfuck working it's way into my mafia vocabulary.

It's a word with a lot of history.
Fate was its originator, I believe.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #276 (isolation #74) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:56 am

wait wait wait what game?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #284 (isolation #75) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:06 am

In post 281, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 279, Sound of Silence wrote:Is Mara seriously thinking that fery is a type of person who would call out a scumteam based on one associate tell?
This worked on newb 1387 so I have a lot of confidence on this.
So was it fery or not who posted that?

Why is it scummy if ffery posted that?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #285 (isolation #76) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:06 am

In post 280, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 276, Nachomamma8 wrote:wait wait wait what game?
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p2901478

But there was one earlier use of the word that I don't remember from the last time I searched. I might have searched for "cheeky scumfuck" last time, because that's the term Syr uses.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2779153

Awesome.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #292 (isolation #77) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:28 am

you don't wear your diplomat hat with me

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #297 (isolation #78) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:44 am

In post 296, magenta_thegreat wrote:we don't have to convince anyone that we are town, that isn't our job.

it's part of your job.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #300 (isolation #79) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:48 am

In post 299, Sound of Silence wrote:If you want reach out, it is your job.

ooh.
fiery.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #305 (isolation #80) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:59 am

In post 302, magenta_thegreat wrote:he expects town-ffery to withhold a read on us for the time being when he requested it.

I don't understand.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #308 (isolation #81) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:05 am

In post 307, Sound of Silence wrote:One I don't want to mention because I think it might be a useful meta tell in future games.

In post 307, Sound of Silence wrote:And another was what GiF dropping the words "Buzzword Bingo" into the game did and didn't provoke.

You were trying to provoke me?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #321 (isolation #82) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:34 am

In post 311, magenta_thegreat wrote:
In post 308, Nachomamma8 wrote:You were trying to provoke me?
I was

Why did you say this?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #322 (isolation #83) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:35 am

In post 320, magenta_thegreat wrote:TIP was town early game, though I know people will react weirdly when I am not reading him properly so I was scum-reading him, though I'm not entirely fond of his lack of reaction to me pushing him. It felt a whole lot more like Walking dead more than it did Vi's U-pick, but before I had gone into a 1v1 with Nacho, he was a solid town-read. now, he isn't as much

Who did you expect to notice you incorrectly reading TIP?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #325 (isolation #84) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:47 am

In post 323, magenta_thegreat wrote:because I did.

Where?

In post 323, magenta_thegreat wrote:he had made himself obv town pretty early to those that know how he plays (Imo),

He made himself obvtown pretty early yet you're getting paranoid on him?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #326 (isolation #85) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:48 am

orcinus, why did you ask me my read on ffery before attacking her?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #327 (isolation #86) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:48 am

mara, why are you trusting orc's read on ffery over mine?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #328 (isolation #87) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:49 am

In post 316, phokdapolees wrote:Just got back on, and now there's over 300 posts... I'll catch up and post my thoughts.

This game might be really fucking confusing.
Sorry about that!

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #331 (isolation #88) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:54 am

In post 329, magenta_thegreat wrote:the bolded was supposed to send you into a fiery rage of fury

Why?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #333 (isolation #89) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:54 am

projectmatt townread firmed up a bit.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #337 (isolation #90) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:57 am

In post 336, projectmatt wrote:
In post 333, Nachomamma8 wrote:projectmatt townread firmed up a bit.
That's not an answer.

firmed up a bit more
(i'm working on it)

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #338 (isolation #91) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:00 am

In post 31, phokdapolees wrote:Anyway, mastin, what is the point of your fake townbloc, and how did you choose the members?

I liked this. Straight, to the point, solid questioning.
No posturing, just pure and free questioning.

In post 35, phokdapolees wrote:(I'm also nacho's newbie ) What is far from 100%? You didn't even give a reason for voting for me besides saying that you thought TIP was town.

I liked this too. He's interrogating an old IC a bit, and the tone in his response is good.

In post 43, phokdapolees wrote:
Sound of Silence wrote:So whatdayya think?
Is he town for it? Is he scum for it? Or is he just downright trolling you?
It's hard to tell when he hasn't even given an actual reason for his vote yet. He says that he wants to discuss it, but he's not giving anything to discuss. It seems slightly scummy at this point, like he's just trying to seem town by saying "hey, let's discuss my vote," without giving anything to work with, but I still want him to state his reasoning.

He seems frustrated that he doesn't understand mastin's vote.
He doesn't seem frustrated with mastin voting him specifically.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #339 (isolation #92) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:01 am

In post 329, magenta_thegreat wrote:but he isn't keeping up on his appearances, so yes.

Where has he failed to keep up his appearances?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #343 (isolation #93) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:06 am

In post 340, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 335, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 329, magenta_thegreat wrote:the bolded was supposed to send you into a fiery rage of fury
It seriously missed the mark.
Oh wait...you mean send Nacho into a rage? So many f's in that sentence I thought it was addressed to me.

It still missed the mark if that was its intention.
I doubt that was its intention though. Mara is claiming that all her weirdness was planned the whole time and is behind the scenes town reaction testing, and I just don't believe that.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #344 (isolation #94) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:09 am

In post 146, magenta_thegreat wrote:and, I'm not going to get trolled by scum this game.

In post 146, magenta_thegreat wrote:you know you aren't going to get me to break with weak stuff like this. push a little harder

"I'm not gonna get trolled by you this game nacho"
"i'm gonna troll you nacho"
Seems inconsistent.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #351 (isolation #95) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:42 am

In post 345, magenta_thegreat wrote:It isn't to far off of your push on bert/ns,

The purpose of tilting someone is to illicit a strong reaction from someone who you know is expecting you to read them as town/someone who is afraid of you pegging the fuck out of them. You taunted someone who you not only can't consistently read, but someone who is good at reading you (hence a taunt would be muddying the waters), someone who can get paranoid of you and who usually lynches you when they are, and is also someone who you can't read worth a shit. I also don't remember you reaction testing me before. Link me?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #352 (isolation #96) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:48 am

In post 347, magenta_thegreat wrote:and it was a taunt. what else was it supposed to do?

Spark a reaction of some sort? But it didn't seem to do that.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #354 (isolation #97) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:50 am

In post 348, mastin2 wrote:There are other things, but mainly? Playing the newb card. Read his games. In every town game, he doesn't play it. In most of his scum games, he does. There's also the content and tone. Phok displays a greater amount of confidence and logical thinking as scum, whereas when town, is more doubtful and unassured of himself.

I thought the newb card was pretty understandable here.
I also think that he seems unsure enough.

In post 348, mastin2 wrote:Serious, legitimate, townread here. Because I had the exact same impulse, here.

I was just extending the joke a bit; didn't find anything THAT off with projectmatt's opening.

In post 349, projectmatt wrote:am i the only one who gets really irrationally frustrated by mastin's posts?

I'm sure there are others.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #356 (isolation #98) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:59 am

In post 352, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 347, magenta_thegreat wrote:and it was a taunt. what else was it supposed to do?
Spark a reaction of some sort? But it didn't seem to do that.

And Mara? If you were taunting me... why did you lack reactions to my "taunts" to you?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #365 (isolation #99) » Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:22 am

ugh
i almost want to vote jacob just because jacob

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:28 pm

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:28 pm

hello tammy.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #398 (isolation #102) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:14 pm

i'm forming my block now.
i'm interested in what tammy has to say.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #399 (isolation #103) » Mon Oct 14, 2013 2:14 pm

my townread on tip isn't strong any longer.

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:11 pm

In post 401, TheIrishPope wrote:How convenient.

Does this surprise you?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 14, 2013 10:14 pm

what the fuck is the picture in the first post?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #411 (isolation #106) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 6:50 am

In post 406, mastin2 wrote:Now I would absolutely love to be wrong about Nacho being scum, but thing is, I don't think I am.

Why do you think I'm scum again?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #416 (isolation #107) » Wed Oct 16, 2013 8:14 am

In post 414, mastin2 wrote:He's historically basically just brushed me off when he's been town and I've read him as scum. A sort of silently shaking his head, shrugging it off, and continuing.

Historically, I understand when you scumread me.
In this particular instance, I'm of the opinion that I looked town as shit when I pushed that magenta lynch, so I'm a bit confused.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #423 (isolation #108) » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:01 am

In post 421, mastin2 wrote:If Nacho were town, I'd expect the scum to be encouraging the fight between us. Instead, there's a deathly silence about it. Nobody's weighing in on either side. Nothing.

No one is doing anything right now, which means absolutely nothing as far as my alignment is involved.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #460 (isolation #109) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:29 am

In post 431, Bert wrote:Nacho seems to be burlesquing his town aggression, reminds me of 1489

Then why are you still voting me?

In post 433, mastin2 wrote:Bert, you've played with me before. I'm the lesser half of Calcifer, for instance.

(Still think your slot's scum, by the way, though admittedly...you're player I'm least-familiar with.)

Don't ignore me.

In post 439, Tammy wrote:Holy shit nacho's town.

I thought that push on magenta was incredibly town, yeah. I'm unsure if mastin isn't picking up on it because he thinks he can swing a lynch on me or because he thinks it will get him towncred from me or because he's not seeing it, although I lean that he's just not seeing it.

In post 452, Tammy wrote:fracking hell this post

Page 15 was a pretty good page I guess?

In post 453, Tammy wrote:I'd love to hear your feedback on mastin and tip. I know SoS can't really read TiP but Mara can and she was waffling. That has me concerned.

I'm pretty concerned about TIP as well. I'm feeling OK about mastin-town, but he's missing a few things that he should be picking up on. Mostly, I just want him to show me his thought process as far as Nacho-scum is concerned; yes, ffery died N1. Yes, I ended up lynching the hell out of town. But the last time I was this ruffled was in adventure time mafia when we were pushing the hell out of Timeater-town while trying to save the town from destroying themselves. Mastin also had a pretty personal of the awesome scumgame I played in Bingo, and got an intimate look at my scum thought process as scum. He

knows

that tone is the weakest part of my scumgame because I'm too planny, and he knows that it would be a god-tier breakthrough if I pulled off that mislynch as scum.

But mastin-scum also knows when I expect him to townread me (he did it at a pretty good time in Walking Dead), so I don't think he would pull this with me if he was scum? And his day 1 play was pretty obnoxiously town, I just have tiny niggles that hold me back on him although I really, really shouldn't be.

In post 456, Tammy wrote:Nacho - what do you think of Bert so far? I kinda like him.

He's taking a little too long to get into the game for my liking.
His vote on me while calling me town is weird as fuck, his fake catchup post had nothing but the read on me and the read on mastin, and then he calls mastin scum but then waffles on him being scum because he has a reputation for being a good player (also weird). His "ffery makes sense as a Nacho kill although it's all WIFOM" strikes me as strange, his "one of Mastin/Nacho is scum" is strange, and he hasn't reached out to me yet/caught up. I want him to catch up.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #464 (isolation #110) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:34 am

In post 462, Bert wrote:I AM CAUGHT UP

What are your reads?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #465 (isolation #111) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:34 am

In post 462, Bert wrote:I HAVE NO SOLID READS I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE ALREADY

i don't care if they are solid or not.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #468 (isolation #112) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:38 am

yeah i like bert too

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #470 (isolation #113) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:38 am

Vote: Jacob

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #472 (isolation #114) » Sat Oct 19, 2013 5:53 am

So you do think i'm town

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #479 (isolation #115) » Sun Oct 20, 2013 4:45 am

In post 477, mastin2 wrote:I have to admit...one reason I have you as town is because you said that a person really knowing what they were looking for would be calling you obvtown.

This seemed genuine.

In post 477, mastin2 wrote:Not sure what I'm missing.

You're not missing anything, but I still want you talking to me and working with me on this since the second you shut down the scumread on me isn't going away for the rest of the game.

In post 477, mastin2 wrote:Problem is, I am seeing some of that tone. And I don't know that you-as-scum couldn't pull of the lynch. (Though, strictly speaking, on a purely technical note, you didn't; it was a modkill.

The tone you're looking for is my town tone, not scum tone. My scum tone is consistently in my town game, but my town game usually swings from town tone to scum tone to town tone.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #490 (isolation #116) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:09 am

Vote: phokdapolees

gut

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #493 (isolation #117) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:13 am

nah not really

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #494 (isolation #118) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:13 am

what are your reads though?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #498 (isolation #119) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:15 am

I would put our two heads into one but you're not working with me.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #500 (isolation #120) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:16 am

If he votes, it's a hammer. We're not hammering him yet.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #503 (isolation #121) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:19 am

Because hammering him now would be horrendously stupid when we've done shit-all for the entire day?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #505 (isolation #122) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:22 am

mastin's town because gut

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #507 (isolation #123) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:24 am

"Giving scum less chance to react" it also gives town less time to react.
And yes, it does. Phok won't be a very difficult lynch so I'm not particularly worried about his wagon dissipating.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #509 (isolation #124) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:24 am

When you quicklynch someone because you probably won't be able to lynch them otherwise, you're probably making a horrible vote.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #510 (isolation #125) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:25 am

In post 508, Bert wrote:TIP's opening seems pretty town but it can be faked, I tend to lean town

His opening...?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #518 (isolation #126) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:31 am

In post 512, Bert wrote:Oh oops, I mixed up games, he has been here all game...

Explain.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #520 (isolation #127) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:33 am

When you were talking about TiP's opening being town?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #523 (isolation #128) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:35 am

Spoiler: TiP interactions w/Mara in Walking dead

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #525 (isolation #129) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:38 am

In post 26, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 24, Sound of Silence wrote:
In post 23, TheIrishPope wrote:Mhm. And you decided I was scum after two posts?
Quite interesting.
We decided you're scum after one post!
But you're Town. I don't care.

This would be decent if TiP-scum.

In post 151, TheIrishPope wrote:What does me being aware of my meta have to do with Mara? She can read right through me either way.

In post 156, TheIrishPope wrote:Mara ofc I'm not scum
But I'm not sure who's scum right now.
Probs Mastin but I'm biased so holding back right now.

In post 271, TheIrishPope wrote:
In post 262, magenta_thegreat wrote: Yeah I don't understand how TIP is a scumfuck

apathetic stupid irrelevant low-content annoying laid-back indifferent

maybe

but not a scumfuck this game
Huh.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #526 (isolation #130) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:39 am

In post 522, phokdapolees wrote:plus the terrible fake townbloc idea at the beginning.

Why was it bad? It probably would have prevented yesterday's mislynch if we followed it.

In post 522, phokdapolees wrote:Projectmatt hasn't really given a lot of content to judge, but on his posts so far he seems town.

Why?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #532 (isolation #131) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 9:49 am

Cool.

Vote: Bert

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:10 am

I thought I was town earlier.

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:11 am

But no, I'm not sorting you out, in case you hadn't noticed.

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:15 am

Why didn't you vote him earlier?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:16 am

"giving him a free pass". what's the difference between giving him a free pass and not suspecting him?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:17 am

In post 538, Bert wrote:And no, I'm not ignoring your read on mastin, but I don't trust you that much right now even though you *seem* town and are a *tentative* townread.

oh that's cool

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:18 am

In post 541, Bert wrote:a semi-scum read on Nacho.

What would qualify as a full scum read?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:21 am

In post 397, mastin2 wrote:
In post 396, Nachomamma8 wrote:hello tammy.

Vote: Nacho
.

y u no hello me?

here's the voting me part

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:22 am

In post 406, mastin2 wrote:Now I would absolutely love to be wrong about Nacho being scum, but thing is, I don't think I am. The two dead players (ffery and Mara) both know Nacho incredibly well. (Granted, SoS was a near-universal townread, so that's an equally-probable cause for nightkill. But still, ffery dieing N1 always makes me paranoid of Nacho. )

and here's he's engaging me as a scumread

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:22 am

In post 547, Bert wrote:it's like he wants to go after you, but doesn't want to fully engage you as a scumread, but he doesn't want to just dismiss you as town, it just doesn't feel right that's all I'm saying.

there are very few people who very rarely fully engage me as a scumread

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:25 am

In post 550, Bert wrote:Yeah, he did, but he let go and went into uncertainty: And plus I wouldn't call that vote a strong push by any means. He went HI NACHO or osmething and then VOTE, and then didn't keep up the pressure if there was any.

but the point is that for the majority of the game he's been making a push on a strong player so there's no opportunism you're speaking of until the phok vote.
you criticize him for waffling on the scumread on me, but I don't think that's unusual for people who are scumreading me, especially Day 2 in a Micro.

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:28 am

not to mention you're criticizing someone for waffling.

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:42 am

In post 554, Bert wrote:And the plan about having the strong players be immune D1.

Why?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:42 am

In post 554, Bert wrote:But still his reading Darger as scum without a post is still pretty bad IMO.

I was reading Darger as scum without a post.

In post 555, Bert wrote:you sheeped Mastin's vote right away when it wasn't even a full catchup post as he isn't fully caught up and back

in a 7 player game, knowing full well who is in this game (TIP and I)

So?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:01 am

In post 558, Bert wrote:because it's blasphemy, do you agree with it? when most players here are experienced anyway?

You didn't answer my question.

In post 558, Bert wrote:why?

PoE.

In post 558, Bert wrote:Micro 190... two flashlynches, ruins the game and there are impulses

You realize this as town and I seriously don't expect you to quickhammer out of nowhere.

In post 559, Bert wrote:Also, you asked me why I didn't vote mastin earlier. Why didn't you vote phok earlier? It's not like phok had said anything else between your last post and Mastin's last post...

Are you sure about this?

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:48 am

In post 564, Bert wrote:which, sorry I'm multi-tasking and just finished chapter 7 yeah baby yeah

Still haven't?

In post 564, Bert wrote:I meant your last post before Mastin's catchup, and Mastin's vote. No phok comments in between those two.

Then I have no idea what you're asking or why it's significant.

In post 564, Bert wrote:After what happened in 1489, I expect more from you

Really, PoE? with 7 players and no scum flip to speak of

1489, where Marangal got closer to endgame than she should have due to SURPRISE MULTIBALL

Nachomamma8 · Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:50 am

In post 568, Nachomamma8 wrote:SURPRISE MULTIBALL... and a lover vig claim

Not too worried. It's also how I got an early scumread on Cabd in mismatched and is how I usually lynch scum, so it's not that likely I'll switch my style now.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #577 (isolation #148) » Mon Oct 21, 2013 3:12 pm

In post 571, Bert wrote:Yes, Multiball. But, I'd think you need more time to sort out Tammy and projectmatt (who haven't been hrre that much) to get firmer reads before you POE like you did in Mismatched? And people like phok, and then TIP who Mara was waffling on?

Sure I need more time to fully sort things out, hence my passivity. That doesn't mean I'm not going to working with certain scumteam models when a certain group of players seem town. I am starting to get restless about Tammy, though. She should be in my townblock but the only person who has earned a solid spot there so far is mastin.

In post 573, Bert wrote:I did not vote him earlier because I saw people calling him town a lot.

This makes sense! Why did you vote him when you did?

In post 573, Bert wrote:Mastin is not being suspected as much as I think he should be.

i disagree.

In post 574, Bert wrote:so using a gambit and calling someone scum and announcing you have a scumread on them when you aren't really sure - that is not a full scum read in my book

I think the only people who have had anything close to a full scumread are me and maybe TiP, then.

In post 576, Bert wrote:Nacho, what did you mean by this? You had phok as town through half-way D1, so help me understand

Newb card was understandable because I was launching the missile silo offensive against magenta at the time.
He seems unsure enough as in his confidence wasn't betraying a scum role PM.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #579 (isolation #149) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:15 am

I need Tammy to talk more.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #582 (isolation #150) » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:53 am

In post 225, TheIrishPope wrote:Pretty certain it's scum vs scum.

Nachomamma8 · Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:00 am

What else is it?

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #615 (isolation #152) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:27 am

In post 585, TheIrishPope wrote:Painting would be making numerous posts explaining why
This was just a comment

The difference doesn't seem significant to me.

In post 590, Tammy wrote:My memory could be rusty and I'll have to look back; that *might* have just been endgame though and not relevant at all.

It was an endgame scenario.

In post 593, Bert wrote:Nacho love you know this game Newbie 1419 ended today so now we can talk about phok-scum as if we have seen him/her before which we very well have

I've been thinking about it. I don't think that one game meta is too useful, though.

In post 595, Bert wrote:easy to manipulate

Please don't ever say this phrase in Tammy's presence.

In post 595, Bert wrote:Yeppers, you're right on, Colonel!

Do you think TiP is town for the push?

In post 598, Tammy wrote:What happened to

QUICKLYNCH QUICKLYNCH QUICKLYNCH

You goin soft on me Nacho?

That was yesterday. I don't really have a whole lot of bloodlust left in me right now.

In post 600, Tammy wrote:Like I want to twitch the hell out of this, but then I think why would scum say this, but then I remember it's TiP and I just don't know.

For what it's worth, that seemed sort of town coming from TiP.

In post 606, Tammy wrote:You're joking right?

PLEASE JUST LET ME GET PARANOID SOMETIMES

In post 611, Tammy wrote:And, are you just joking or reaction testing with the Bert suspicion?

I don't suspect Bert so much anymore.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #617 (isolation #153) » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:26 am

In post 616, Bert wrote:he's null still cuz I can't figure him out worth a honeybun usually. bah bah bah,... bah barbara annnnnnnnnn

So?

In post 616, Bert wrote:What is this supposed to mean, Mr. I'm Voting Bert?

It means what it says, mostly.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #633 (isolation #154) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:49 am

In post 620, Tammy wrote:You didn't talk to me about Mastin.

I haven't. I'm not sure I'm ready to talk about Mastin at this point in time.

In post 629, Bert wrote:Aw man Nacho, this is just Broomhead-town-esque spirit Him saying something like that. I'm not going to oppose his lynch, per se, but man this guy I'm not really seeing as scum all that much. Who do I see as scum? Still working on that, but vibe-wise Tammy just isn't cutting it. Those scattered posts in the catch-up isn't matching up with my expectations/memory of her, just doesn't feel that good so far. She needs to do more of the talk talk <3

Broomhead gave me a hell of a lot more to read him as town from. That felt townish, but the focused attack on mastin seemed unlike him. There's a distinct possibility he was scum trying to jump on Chosen-Mastin (which is incidentally the epiphany I thought Tammy had earlier, and ended up agreeing with).

In post 486, TheIrishPope wrote:Yeah, sorry I've been shit this game. If it's worth anything, I think Mastin's chosen.

This was also weird and makes me lean towards Mastin being chosen, especially considering TiP calling Thor a "Jailkeeper" in Walking Dead and his many attempts to call Mastin scum from the beginning of the game ("reminds me of his walking dead", "mastin is lurking like a duck", etc).

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #635 (isolation #155) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:50 am

In post 632, Bert wrote:I would like to see how you are reading me.

Town.

In post 632, Bert wrote:And also an update on what Tammy's catchup feels like to you.

Town, but not town enough.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #639 (isolation #156) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:57 am

In post 636, Bert wrote:You were so assertive about phok in that game.

I'll be assertive when it's time to be assertive. Now is not that time.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #641 (isolation #157) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:59 am

In post 637, Bert wrote:
In post 635, Nachomamma8 wrote:Town, but
not town enough
.
Yeah, that was what I worried you might say, especially after Stacking the Deck where you said you didn't know if you would have been able to catch Tammy had you lived on to D2.

I'll be able to catch Tammy if she's scum today because I'm not cutting her shit for slack.

In post 638, Bert wrote:So that was the epiphany, meh...but if that were the case and Mastin were Chosen, why would he go after Mastin (way harder lynch) and not the other Chosen (unless that chosen is also like Mastin and a hard lynch)? Weird food for thought, I guess that's why I missed that revelation by Tammy

I'll compromise on Phok then.

That wasn't tammy's revelation, tammy's revelation was a question to Mastin. Mastin-chosen makes sense if Tammy-chosen or Nacho-chosen, otherwise it's probably a no go.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #644 (isolation #158) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:04 am

In post 642, Bert wrote:Gut-wise it feels like TIP going after phok-chosen more than anything. I mean, hell, begging me to hammer after phok posts a measly 6 times is something, ain't it?

That's the second thought.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #645 (isolation #159) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:04 am

And mostly why I'm still idling with my vote on you.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #681 (isolation #160) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:38 pm

In post 673, Tammy wrote:
In post 641, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 637, Bert wrote:
In post 635, Nachomamma8 wrote:Town, but
not town enough
.
Yeah, that was what I worried you might say, especially after Stacking the Deck where you said you didn't know if you would have been able to catch Tammy had you lived on to D2.

I'll be able to catch Tammy if she's scum today because I'm not cutting her shit for slack.

Let's dance Nacho. And then when you're certain of the obvious, can you help me figure out this shit? Cuz that would own.

if you lieke peina coladas

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #682 (isolation #161) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:38 pm

THEN I CAN SHOW YOU THE WAY

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #683 (isolation #162) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:38 pm

HANGING OUT IN THE OCEAN
CHILLIN IN THE RAIN

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #684 (isolation #163) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:39 pm

IF YOU LIKE MAKING LOVE AT MIDNIGHT

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #685 (isolation #164) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:41 pm

IN THE PERSONAL COLUMS

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #686 (isolation #165) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:41 pm

IF YOU'RE NOT INTO YOGA
IF YOU HAVE HALF A BRAIN
IF YOU LIKE MAKING LOVE AT MIDNIGHT
IN THE LOVDES OF THE CPA

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #687 (isolation #166) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:42 pm

BAWWWW NOW NOW NOW

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #688 (isolation #167) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:43 pm

In post 662, Bert wrote:It's a shame Nacho is tipsy tonight!

yiy're a shame motherfucker

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #689 (isolation #168) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:46 pm

In post 666, Bert wrote:Love the Fresh Prince. Nacho probably looks like him when sober!

adn when drunk

In post 668, Tammy wrote:
In post 635, Nachomamma8 wrote:
In post 632, Bert wrote:And also an update on what Tammy's catchup feels like to you.
Town, but not town enough.
Are you reaction testing me?

no
you'd been in your reviuews ad i don'[t een know

In post 673, Tammy wrote:Let's dance Nacho. And then when you're certain of the obvious, can you help me figure out this shit? Cuz that would own.

i know your a tacher and wouldn't approve but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI0gk2KJeho

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #690 (isolation #169) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:48 pm

In post 678, Tammy wrote:I don't have Mastin as strong as town as Nacho does. I think I know why Nacho is reading Mastin as town, but he doesn't feel overly town to me at all. And ProjectMatt feels town to me, but I will admit that I could be overcompensating due to the quickhammer I gave him in Wingate Mansion as I have a tendency to overlook things like that.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #691 (isolation #170) » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:49 pm

In post 679, Tammy wrote:I really wish that Nacho was around tonight so that we could dance and I could be sure through our dance of my read on him and vice versa and then we could try to figure some of this out.

I AM TOWNIER THAN YOUUUU
ii lost my sel in the paranoia dance and i rose a pheonix on townieness
BOON

Nachomamma8 · Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:07 pm

In post 12, mastin2 wrote:I realize that, statistically, it's a probability for one of you (or, heck, even two) to be scum, buuuuuut...I'm going to try something this game. I'm going to, for the time being, assume all of you are town, and ask that you do the same. Basically, at least for the first half of D1, I'm asking that we treat each other as more town than we actually are, and work with one another in figuring out the alignments of the remaining four. (Darger, phok, projectmatt, and TIP.) In other words, working with another (temporarily!) as if we had already formed a townbloc.

i trust this masttin especially since magenta and sos and probably tammy (and me!) were town. i see no reason for mastin to suggest that we all work together unless it's a supe secret plan of turning us against each other which is very very bad and dumb and BZZZT

In post 22, mastin2 wrote:It's my priority, too. But I'm trying a different approach to the norm. If you think that you won't be able to effectively sort us a week after the game has started, you can always sort in whatever hydra communication you have. But I want, at least in-thread, for us to be working with the others as if we're all town. For that first week.

seemed genuine
why did it seem genuine? i don't know why he's making so much effort to get us to look at each other as town when we're all town. as scum, this townblock spills fucking destruction tohim but he's enocuraging it like craxy

In post 37, mastin2 wrote:
In post 35, phokdapolees wrote:(I'm also nacho's newbie )
Yes, well, I'm more possessive of mine.

I'm kinda possessive of mine when they're not scum against me

In post 348, mastin2 wrote:Serious, legitimate, townread here. Because I had the exact same impulse, here.

TOWNREAD
for his town read of me, but seriously. mastin-town looks for us to be on the same track, mastinscum looks for me to exist.

this is what i have so far

Nachomamma8 · Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:07 pm

i am actually too drunk to continue
so i will not

Nachomamma8 · Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:07 pm

rip nacho that makes sense =(

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #743 (isolation #174) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:34 pm

In post 722, Bert wrote:I think there's scum inside and I would bet the game on it.

I have an extraordinarily strong feeling to the opposite effect if Tammy would just town the fuck up for me.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #744 (isolation #175) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:34 pm

literally this is not a reaction test this is the last piece of the puzzle i need for today but you just aren't delivering to the level I want you to, tamm tamm.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #745 (isolation #176) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:37 pm

and i don't even know what to tell you. i can tell you mastin is town, and bert is town, and I am obviously town. and I like your reactions, but they aren't BLOW ME AWAY TAMMY-TOWN, SHOW ME A WHOLE NEW WORLD. if you can just look a little bit townier, just a little tiny bit, game is pretty much solved. just reassure me.

Nachomamma8 · Post Post #746 (isolation #177) » Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:38 pm

Vote: phokdapolees