Mini 1508 ~ Tales of uPick ~ Error

[Iso]

/confirm I guess

jesus christ you guys posted like 10 pages in a day while I was at work

I'm tired, I'll read it later bye

[Iso]

Oh god dammit I have to play with TAM again.

Uhh the town's win con is definitely listed above

I can't tell if Syryana is dumb or scum

It's gonna be one of

those

games, isn't it?

Disagreeing with bork that cabd is necessarily town for the win con stuff.

MY MOTHER WAS A GREAT MAN

I think I like ffery for town.

Sakura is probably scum.

Dislike bork's overreaction to ffery.

ffery why are you FoSing and not voting (though I do like that it's on bork)

notscience yes I am glad you have tuned into the ways of scumSakura this means I am not alone.

bork stop being so angry

psst ffery Sakura is scum there's no need to "wait and see"

bork I have no idea what "town guilt is", please walk me through it. Also notscience is town but for a different reason.

Hmm. Natirasha, I'd be interested in hearing your reasoning for scumCabd.

Actually I think I see it too but you're still welcome to answer that question.

Gaiden's T/S list is probably a goldmine if he's scum.

Seriously ffery why are you FoSing and not voting

Oh I guess the votecount thing was edited in.

Blah blah blah bunch of fluff

Dislike Cabd's "hmm" RE: the edit in

I agree with ffery RE: the scum knowing the town wincon.

OH LOOK TAM IS CONTRIBUTING ABSOLUTELY NOTHING OF VALUE TO THE GAME HOW DO YOU NOT HAVE ANY READS YET

cabd ur a tree

While I don't necessarily disagree with the Gaiden push (the distancing thing early in the game between Sakura and Gaiden could have easily been a scumbuddy thing) I have a more solid scum read on Sakura.

I can't un-read Sakura as scum.

who pissed in your wheaties natirasha why aren't you voting for your damn scum read

Already dislike pitoli.

Vote Sakura Hana

Everyone hop on!

[Iso]

"guess the votecount thing was edited in" -> "guess the win con thing was edited in"

[Iso]

You should vote for Sakura.

[Iso]

bork I have no idea what "town guilt is", please walk me through it.

I'm not following

what is town guilt

Hint Iso, It's called being gone for an entire day and having stuff pop up left and right. Compare my post to your first post this game. And you're complaining that I have no game related content when I'm essentially at the same point you are?

Not like I complained about having "about 10 pages" posted while you were away and then went off to read through.

Given that I actually provided content upon my read, your play is not comparable to mine here. In short, go hump a cactus.

You said you actually read. I /confirmed because the mod bitched about me not confirming in the game thread and made a note that I would catch up later.

I did.

I said things.

You've said nothing, despite you apparently reading up to that point with "things popping up left and right".

Uh, duh?

It's Mafia. Get over yourself.

Glad to see you actually made a post with some reads, thoough. (Hypocrisy, my ass.)

Is it the actual moving of votes that depletes the battery, or is it just -1% every time the mod gets around to a VC?

why aren't you scumhunting

Iso can do the same for Sakura because "hey guys sheep me" is not going to be an acceptable thing for me to do at this point in the game.

Why not?

What part of Sakura being scum have you not picked up on? Please read through their posts and walk me through the town motivation you see.

[Iso]

what is town guilt

again, what are you talking about

YOU SAID "TOWN GUILT"

WHAT THE FUCK IS TOWN GUILT

TIA

Oh hey, despite me trying to improve guess I'm always going to be D1's wagon huh.

nice AtE

What part of Sakura being scum have you not picked up on? Please read through their posts and walk me through the town motivation you see.

From what part of "explain your scumreads" do you get "I am townreading Sakura"?

From what part of "explain why you're not reading scumSakura" do you get "explain why you're reading townSakura"?

[Iso]

oh wow I can't fucking read

NS is pinging town gut

SORRY GUYS

[Iso]

Well I feel illiterate now.

[Iso]

Iso lets make a townbloc

Nati you can be a part of it too because I really really liked that point about Cabd

I'm actually not too sure about Nati right now. I'll get back to you on that one later.

hi

die

[Iso]

Iso lets make a townbloc

Nati you can be a part of it too because I really really liked that point about Cabd

I'm actually not too sure about Nati right now. I'll get back to you on that one later.

hi

die

His point on Cabd is one of the same things that initially popped into my head.

Well now I don't remember if I like Cabd or not.

Judgment pending on a Cabd flip.

From what part of "explain why you're not reading scumSakura" do you get "explain why you're reading townSakura"?

What part of Sakura being scum have you not picked up on?

Please read through their posts and walk me through the town motivation you see.

I don't want to mince words but that's how your post came off.

Let's start over: I am null on Sakura at the point I made that post.

Since then, I don't particularly like her flavor of AtE this game, but her content is minimal and I don't see any inherent scum motivation in anything she's done.

Okay.

As for my dislike of Sakura this game:

VOTE: notscience

Policy.

I like this wagon

Vote: notscience

Also:

it takes 7 to spontaneously assault someone with a wooden sword.

This made me lol

I agree with bork that Cabd is pretty town atm.

The tone of this post is all wrong. It's too cautious and unnatural.

^
I wonder if you have that in a notepad and ready for eveyrtime anyone asks about ffery's paranoia.

Subtle mudslinging despite alleged townread.

Actually

Vote: Gaiden

You won't get away this time with a newbie card.

It's far too late in the game for an RVS vote at this point.

@Gaiden: Good! so drop the fluff and start scumhunting

The scumhunting that you're doing...right?

Indeed, if anything i have played more games with Cabd enough to be paranoid of him.

...despite reading him as town

hadn't really looked at her, but on a quick read a have a question for her:

@Sakura: elaborate on 72? Is that affecting your read of him this game?

Not really, I do have a town read on him atm, I don't like to go by paranoia just because I know he can pull all sorts of gambits and stuff, plus paranoia is annoying.

Then why bring it up?

The thing is, If i get paranoia just because people are pretty good players I'm gonna end up like in Xenologue where i can't read anything at all, I'm trying to improve here, not to go hide behind my paranoia. And yes that means I'm legitly townreading Cabd and legitly townreading Gaiden, tho I guess i need to revote him

Unvote
Vote: Gaiden

Going to try to be less flip floppy with votes this game due to that weird mechanic I guess.

"I am legitimately townreading this person, so I'm going to revote them, except I'm going to change my votes around less because of deadlines, except I just changed my vote again to a townread." What?

Also, why wouldn't Sakura have "legitimate" townreads at this point? The language here implies that there are reasons for Sakura to not be "legitimately" reading them as town. Such as a scum role PM.

Though when I did, i accidentally got a townie lynched.

Ohai

Oh wait, you were scum that game, nevermind.

Pointless banter, subtle suggestion that Gaiden is scum despite the alleged townread.

it's most likely to work like battery deadlines i guess.

where is the content

I'm secretly a double voter obv

WHERE IS THE CONTENT

Oh hey, despite me trying to improve guess I'm always going to be D1's wagon huh.

Defeatist AtE. Not attempting to dissuade the wagon in any logical way.

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So yeah, bork, those are my issues with Sakura. Active lurking, no scumhunting, useless mod speculation, subtle mudslinging, and no relevant content. Any questions?

follow-up: I've played with you I think on at least two separate occasions and you were not wagoned on D1 in either of them; do you actually get lynched D1 a lot?

Matrix 6 was before I was suddenly inflicted with a streak of bad luck after breaking my 100% town win rate, and Xenologue i didnt even get to post on D1, yet i was flashwagoned and i self-hammered at the end of D2, dont remember any other games we played together.

@ns: I dont OMGUS, and I don't think Iso's scummy yet, dunno what you got that idea that i OMGUS+AtE when town, if anything my Old meta was that I self-vote + AtE as either alignment.

Do you believe I will be scummy by the end of the game?

[Iso]

Oh wow. I thought the typo Sakura was fixing in that post was something about how "legitly" was spelled.

Second time I've proven I can't read in this game.

[Iso]

Let me see if that actually changes anything.

[Iso]

Yeah that doesn't actually change much - just the part about intentionally diminishing the deadline. There's still no scumhunting, no explanation, all active lurking, etc.

[Iso]

I'm pretty sure Sakura and Gaiden are scumbuddies.

Someone else can make that case because I'm liable to misread posts again.

[Iso]

so can we lynch Sakura now, or

[Iso]

Nah we're gonna spend 30 pages waffling on her first.

shut up and vote your scumbuddy

Sorry, Iso, dice telling me to not change votes.

pretty sure you mixed up what 1 and 2 meant

[Iso]

SOFTCLAIM TIME: I never lie when I claim the specific role I have.

[Iso]

[Iso]

hey notscience

[Iso]

Hey Iso.

hi

[Iso]

I'm thinking notsci is town.

It took you that long to figure it out?

[Iso]

go hump a cactus

[Iso]

Hi!

Would you prefer I tell ffery to hump your leg instead of a cactus?

[Iso]

Everyone's so terse and serious this game.

Welcome to Mafia, may I take your hat?

Related: Read thread title as "Tales of uSuck" on my way in this time.

[Iso]

Should I troll harder?

Because I can.

[Iso]

you can't tell me what to do

you're not my real dad

[Iso]

So this is going to be Xenologue all over again huh

What are the parallels to Xenologue from your perspective?

The fact that I feel like replacing out, but dont want to because this is an uPick.

then fucking play the fucking game

goddamn

you haven't even addressed my case against you, for one

for two, you aren't scumhunting

Stop bitching that you're getting run up if you're not going to contribute.

[Iso]

I'm chill. I just don't think Sakura has a right to complain about getting run up when Sakura's play is the reason Sakura is getting run up.

[Iso]

I always yell at him for active lurking so I'm surprised he actually posted reads at this point.

[Iso]

or we can lynch Sakura

[Iso]

why are we not lynching sakura

the reaction to the notscience thing was terrible and demonstrates clearly that sakura does not have a role pm

[Iso]

why are we not lynching sakura

the reaction to the notscience thing was terrible and demonstrates clearly that sakura does not have a role pm

Explain?

This post:

Someone got caught by the "order of cruxis" it seems.

Sakura waited a moment to see if the notscience wagon was going to build momentum or if notscience was going to be able to pull out of it. Textbook scum hedging. Too afraid to jump on the wagon in case it got disbanded, but also wanted to leave the option open to do so, as evidenced by the above post.

Probably because Syry replaced out. You see in Upicks it's really bad to replace out, you should kind of be attached to your character and now someone else is going to have to play with a character they didnt pick, it's one of the reasons I didn't want to replace out earlier.

I don't know the flavor

I'm pretty sure the mod suggested to me that my role has nothing to do with the character I picked.

Not willing to lynch (Cabd, Nati, notsci, Sakura, bork, Iso, Skullduggery)
Willing to lynch (Syr-slot, TAM, Gaiden, pitoli)

I wouldn't mind seeing Cabd die, and I'd much rather Sakura in place of Syr-slot, but that aside, this echoes my sentiments about the state of the game pretty well.

Not willing to lynch (Cabd, Nati, notsci, Sakura, bork, Iso, Skullduggery)

I get everything here except Iso. Also, why the 180 on your "the mod wifom is wifom" angle?

Iso's obvtown.

Cabd, what do you think of ISO being on a similar page to me?

If you're going to refer to me, please use "Iso" instead of "ISO" so that I know you're talking about me instead of the isolation feature. TIA

That's fine. I didn't want to be a part of your townblock. In fact, I'll make my own. With blackjack and hookers.

Scum can't make townblocs

shh

the big kids are talking

[Iso]

why are we not lynching sakura

the reaction to the notscience thing was terrible and demonstrates clearly that sakura does not have a role pm

Explain?

This post:

Someone got caught by the "order of cruxis" it seems.

Sakura waited a moment to see if the notscience wagon was going to build momentum or if notscience was going to be able to pull out of it. Textbook scum hedging. Too afraid to jump on the wagon in case it got disbanded, but also wanted to leave the option open to do so, as evidenced by the above post.

Fair enough. I don't quite see it like that, but I suppose we can revisit it.

So...are you going to revisit it?

Not willing to lynch (Cabd, Nati, notsci, Sakura, bork, Iso, Skullduggery)
Willing to lynch (Syr-slot, TAM, Gaiden, pitoli)

I wouldn't mind seeing Cabd die, and I'd much rather Sakura in place of Syr-slot, but that aside, this echoes my sentiments about the state of the game pretty well.

I can feel the love. What exactly about my play makes you say I'm scum. Or is it the whole "not willing to vote sakura" thing?

Nah. You've had some posts that rubbed me the wrong way, but I'm not particularly interested in going back and looking at your posts to figure out which those were, presently.

Not willing to lynch (Cabd, Nati, notsci, Sakura, bork, Iso, Skullduggery)

I get everything here except Iso. Also, why the 180 on your "the mod wifom is wifom" angle?

Iso's obvtown.

I beg to differ but hey, makes the world go around!

I'm sexy.

That's fine. I didn't want to be a part of your townblock. In fact, I'll make my own. With blackjack and hookers.

Scum can't make townblocs

shh

the big kids are talking

I lol'd.

And hilarious.

Too afraid to jump on the wagon in case it got disbanded

Eh I thought i was voting notscience for some reason...

I call bull.

Which ought to be soon, ffery.

Taking applications for townblock, apply here:

Name: Iso
Why are you town?: I'm the goddamn Batman
Who do you think is town?: Natirasha, ffery, notscience, bork
Is your character really super duper cool? shrugs

By "punishment" we mean "scum can use your claim to do X or Y" and there's no real way to test that until the game is over.

Who is "we"? You and Gaiden?

Symphonia as well popcorn Iso

I have no fucking idea

Let me Google this

...

Vesperia

[Iso]

Ehh, Nati started pinging me in retrospect, but I ignored it because I like him.

Totally nailed Gaiden, though. I thought about posting, "I think Gaiden and Sakura are buddies, but even if Sakura is town, there's a strong chance Gaiden is scum."

[Iso]

Ehh, Nati started pinging me in retrospect, but I ignored it because I like him.

Eh, I'll probably end up playing a game on your home turf soon. Just need to find one with a *specific playerlist*.

I knew my only way out this game after the confirmations came out was pushing hard and taking a lead role, so I intentionally hammed up and played more aggressive than normal. I was surrpised no one called me out(although functionally I knew this was unwinnable with Gaiden/Syr being obvscum).

I guess that would explain why your play felt awkward, though I'm not familiar with your meta, so I couldn't have really made this call in good faith.

[Iso]

I intentionally avoided villain characters because I didn't feel like being scum in this game.