Mini 1508 ~ Tales of uPick ~ Error

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/confirm

I like the mod color.

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VOTE: notscience

Policy.

I like this wagon

Vote: notscience

Also:

it takes 7 to spontaneously assault someone with a wooden sword.

This made me lol

I agree with bork that Cabd is pretty town atm.

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I wonder if you have that in a notepad and ready for eveyrtime anyone asks about ffery's paranoia.

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Actually

Vote: Gaiden

You won't get away this time with a newbie card.

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@Gaiden: Good! so drop the fluff and start scumhunting

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Indeed, if anything i have played more games with Cabd enough to be paranoid of him.

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hadn't really looked at her, but on a quick read a have a question for her:

@Sakura: elaborate on 72? Is that affecting your read of him this game?

Not really, I do have a town read on him atm, I don't like to go by paranoia just because I know he can pull all sorts of gambits and stuff, plus paranoia is annoying.

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The thing is, If i get paranoia just because people are pretty good players I'm gonna end up like in Xenologue where i can't read anything at all, I'm trying to improve here, not to go hide behind my paranoia. And yes that means I'm legitly townreading Cabd and legitly townreading Gaiden, tho I guess i need to revote him

Unvote
Vote: Gaiden

Going to try to be less flip floppy with votes this game due to that weird mechanic I guess.

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*legitly scumreading Gaiden.

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Though when I did, i accidentally got a townie lynched.

Ohai

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Oh wait, you were scum that game, nevermind.

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it's most likely to work like battery deadlines i guess.

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I'm secretly a double voter obv

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Oh hey, despite me trying to improve guess I'm always going to be D1's wagon huh.

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@Sakura: I asked you a thing earlier

96 Is the reply to the most recent thing I've seen you ask me.

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follow-up: I've played with you I think on at least two separate occasions and you were not wagoned on D1 in either of them; do you actually get lynched D1 a lot?

Matrix 6 was before I was suddenly inflicted with a streak of bad luck after breaking my 100% town win rate, and Xenologue i didnt even get to post on D1, yet i was flashwagoned and i self-hammered at the end of D2, dont remember any other games we played together.

@ns: I dont OMGUS, and I don't think Iso's scummy yet, dunno what you got that idea that i OMGUS+AtE when town, if anything my Old meta was that I self-vote + AtE as either alignment.

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Can someone with more experience with Gaiden actually tell me if he always pulls the ns gambit like this?

Not sure, but you can read this if you want: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=29901 only game i've had with him.

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As in "Too scummy to be scum"? yes he did use that in that newbie game.

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SOFTCLAIM TIME: I never lie when I claim the specific role I have.

Dem trust tells.

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I'm trying to change my playstyle but I guess I'll be the D1 lynch without actually doing anything to save me

I'm trying to change my playstyle yes, how does it have anything to do with me being scum? Oh yeah, you're trying to use meta on me because I don't wanna be paranoid about people like Cabd, ffery and Gaiden all game and decided to try different strategies, but guess you haven't learned how the new Sakura works yet, nor anyone for that matter, maybe except Cabd since he can pick up on stuff from my meta that will probably never change.

And I'm pretty confident I'm not gonna be lynched at all because Iso got nothing on me, and you're... pretty much staying there doing nothing except "Oh i think you're scum, oh i think you're faking". So start getting to scumhunt or I'm gonna start thinking you're scumbuddies with Gaiden.

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2) Really? What do you call- 245

Wagon =/= Lynch.

I do have stuff on Gaiden tho, I've asked him to scumhunt, he's still not scumhunting. Why do you defend him?

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TAM's 237 looks like scum hunting to me, but he and Pitoli are overall inactive
Gaiden's being active and doing nothing just like in the newbie game I linked earlier.
I am scumhunting in my own way.

All you're doing is just being there saying "Oh i think X is scum" like Wisdom, except Wisdom at least backs up his arguments.

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I'm thinking notsci is town.

Well I'm thinking the opposite care to tell me why?

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So this is going to be Xenologue all over again huh

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So this is going to be Xenologue all over again huh

What are the parallels to Xenologue from your perspective?

The fact that I feel like replacing out, but dont want to because this is an uPick.

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So this is going to be Xenologue all over again huh

What are the parallels to Xenologue from your perspective?

The fact that I feel like replacing out, but dont want to because this is an uPick.

So it's not tied to parallels in terms of game events?

No, It's tied in parallels in terms of how i feel with the game.

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You know like that time LLD called Blood Pact and I suddenly got Flashwagoned (and almost Hammered if Saki hadn't unvoted)

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Do you see scum influence on your wagon's formation?

ns.

You kinda saw how I overreacted towards him because he KNOWs that i am changing playstyles because of reasons i'm not gonna mention, yet he decides to push that anything different from my old meta means scum me.

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Then you just kinda shut down after 336.

If it's because of the time difference then:
After work I usually play videogames in my computer while every now and then checking in here to see what's been posted.
If it's of the way I posted:
I am aware that I'm playing more passive here, but the thing is that I don't feel comfortable being as active as I used to be, I just have a feeling that everytime i engage with someone I'm gonna get lynched, look at what happened in Xenologue, I engaged with LLD and got flashwagoned, and after that it left quite an impression on me, because I couldn't read anyone worth anything and I was too paranoid of everyone in that game, and look at what happened, I got lynched as Town PR despite me claiming.

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@Skull:

SAKURA

WHERE THE FUCK IS YOUR SELFVOTE

ITS LIKE PAGE 3

YOU'RE SCARED AS FUCK SCUM AREN'T YOU

Allegedly this could be RVS, however he still went for my old meta where I self-voted all the time - Null.

AtE+no OMGUS=scum saku

This is where it first came to me

I also don't like the AtE in response- Usually there's Sakura OMGUS where she OMGUSes someone on the wagon.

And again...

Sakura this game-

I'm trying to change my playstyle but I guess I'll be the D1 lynch without actually doing anything to save me

And then this BS.

Because you're being a hypocrite. You're asking him to scumhunt and not people such as pitoli or TAM. You aren't scumhunting yourself.

So no.

Then calls me an hypocrite and calls out on the 2 lurkers just because i'm focusing on the person that's active and doing nothing.

I am scumhunting in my own way

But seriously, I'm asking questions to try and figure shit out. Your version of scumhunting is to call someone out for not scumhunting, if that's even scumhunting considering that's the only thing remotely close. Let alone the fact that it's page like 10. He hasn't started scumhunting yet. Syr has posted a lot too and guess what- neither has he.

He KNOWs how my new playstyle works, yet he's going on the wrong side here. And goes "Syr has posted a lot too", and guess when was Syr's last post was? oh right around the same time as TAM's and pitoli's, and still Syr hasn't posted near as much as Gaiden

What do you think of Sakura's stance re:me cabd?

If we're talking about not ignoring old playstyles here like ns wants to do, I could say I've seen ns do stuff like this as scum, but i never commented on it, why? Because I know he's changing playstyles too.

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Well technically I'm commenting on it now, but you get what I meant.

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bullshit about your "new" playstyle. It's a ruse.

If it is, then it's a ruse that happens in every single game i've been in after my break.

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Someone got caught by the "order of cruxis" it seems.

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Unvote
Vote: Gaiden

Indeed.

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I missed the italics

-.-

But whatever.

If this isn't a townslip i don't know what is.

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@sakura: So you unvoted me to vote me again?

Eh I thought i was voting notscience for some reason...

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Because "Italics"

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@Mod: This is why you do sample town PMs

Pretty much, now ns is conftown from my PoV.

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Son of a bitch lets not make me conftown

If you really want to, but I will not vote you for the remainder of this game. You already townslipped that's enough for me.

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This also means bork is town btw.

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We shouldn't assume that scum didn't get a copy of the town win condition or a vanilla role pm or w/e.

Why assume this after the mod added the win condition to the OP specifically after what Cabd did?

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Because I've modded a ton of mafia games, and I know how to mod-wifom the everloving shit out of addendums to the opening info.

Let's just say I am not entirely sure Feirei does.

Ditto.

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If anything that'd be Cabd, ffery, ns, me and Bork... that's quite OP...

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Well ns, me and bork are obvious, you because of your first question towards ffery and ffery because of her answer.

If me, ns and bork arent obvious then it's like you didnt read those interactions at all.

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Because ns mentioned he missed the italic... you can see in the 1st post that under town wincon no word is in italics, and I know exactly which words are in italics because are the words ns missed, bork catched this first which is why.

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@ns: I explained it here:

Because ns mentioned he missed the italic... you can see in the 1st post that under town wincon no word is in italics, and I know exactly which words are in italics because are the words ns missed, bork catched this first which is why.

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oh, nvm then, since you quoted me and didnt mention him I thought you were talking to me.

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In either case we got a pretty strong townbloc atm, which btw ns, do you have any other possible scum suspects?

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Hmm, this reminds me of when I played a League of Legends mafia in my site, where all town players each had some kind of a 1-shot self-doc called Tower Hug, but using it would make you permanently lose your PR if you had one. But the mod used the exact same flavor for everyone that tower hugged and some townies, me included via paraphrasing said flavor managed to confirm as town some other town players and formed a strong town bloc and in the end won.

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Probably because Syry replaced out. You see in Upicks it's really bad to replace out, you should kind of be attached to your character and now someone else is going to have to play with a character they didnt pick, it's one of the reasons I didn't want to replace out earlier.

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Probably not that, but still one shouldn't really replace out of an UPick, tho one shouldn't really replace out at all optimally, but life issues and stuff happen, etc.

Anyway, why are we spending time debating over why the deadline was shortened? isn't it at 91%?

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it's only speculation considering that it was right after syr replaced, guess it's a way to encourage players staying? idk, tho i don't see why the deadline has to be shortened if it was for it, I see it's 91% tho, so i dont see why everyone's getting so paranoid?

P-Edit: @ffery: I've played with Hanasawa on my original site if that helps.

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how can i get a read on someone that hasn't even posted, but hana's on V/LA as reminded to us by ns.

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Wait, when's 11/1 again?

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Oh that's like half a month away Oo. for some reason i thought it was somewhere like next week or something...

So that's what you meant.

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So like the battery system except it can actually increase.

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Except that isnt what we're talking about Gaiden.

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and they're paranthetical

Can someone translate this to a non-native english speaker like me :<

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Too afraid to jump on the wagon in case it got disbanded

Eh I thought i was voting notscience for some reason...

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What kind of punishment?

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Symphonia as well popcorn Iso

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Symphonia as well popcorn Iso

I mean Phantasia >_> forgot that I also picked a character from Symphonia as my choice and got confused for a momment there.

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I can't tell if Iso's being oblivious on purpose or not.

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Of course, it was the very first Tales of game i played. Tho the only ones I played are Phantasia, Symphonia, and to a lesser extent Legendia and Abyss.

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let's give syr's slot the viking funeral it needs.

Is this related to the replace out like you guys have been implying? If so i'll happily sheep that. Otherwise can you run me through the why?.

Day still got over 90% last i checked do we really need to flashlynch him with 5 conf towns where 1 of them will most prob. die tonight?

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Well let me run the math here
13 playerlist that means around 3-4 scum if im not wrong, let's assume 3.
5 conf town that's 8 remaining undecided from which 3 are scum and 5 are town.
Assuming worst case scenario (5 mislynches) (5 shots on conftown).

yeah i dont think we can auto win this yet.

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You don't suck, People eventually will make mistakes sometime in their lives, just learn from them so you dont mess up again

Also I was Mint Adenade, a Nurse, so i suspect there was a doctor somewhere.

And guess I was right about Gaiden and Cabd see

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My other 2 picks were Colette from ToS (hence why i got confused) an Arche from ToP too.

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Well I guess i'll just delete this from my wiki if i even added it (i dont remember what i even added)

Anyway like Gaiden if you try tales of upick again i'm all pre-in, just learn from your mistakes and stuff.

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And I called Cabd scum and i was right too

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And I called Cabd town and i was right too

EBWOP:

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Told you I was scumhunting in my own way tho.