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[Natirasha]

/confirm

[Natirasha]

VOTE: Natirasha

Good wagon. Wondering how long I could sneak under the radar. Had questions about my role PM, was waiting for Feirei to answer. It's been 24 hours and I feel I'm being ignored by him.

[Natirasha]

I think you're scum btw Cabd.

[Natirasha]

Nati I already beat you to the selfvoting punch. Thoughts on everyone else?

Fuck you, VOTE: Feirei then. Ffery's town. Cabd's not. Syr's not funny. Kinda pissy at the moment, Bork and I appear to be similar in this regard. Others I don't care yet.

[Natirasha]

waiting for Feirei to answer

Try flooding his skype text inbox.

]Burn in hell.

Why do you think Ffery's town?

Cuz she's my scumbuddy.

Isn't it obvious?

Is not being funny supposed to be alignment indicative, or are you just throwing his name in there because you feel like syr-cabd-ffery is a threepack?

You clearly haven't kept up on your meta, "metamaster". Once again, I want you to die a painful death right now.

Might burn my vigshot on it.

[Natirasha]

Isn't it obvious?

No, and I need to know if I've gone in the wrong direction

Am I the only one who can properly read the subtext?

It's gut.

Sakura's paranoia of me is well placed though.

?

[Natirasha]

EBWOP
Second part should look like this

Sakura's paranoia of me is well placed though.

?

[Natirasha]

You want to make him

stake

steak, fferylit, trust me.

[Natirasha]

You want to make him

stake

steak, fferylit, trust me.

Tempo?

Not really. Maybe a little. More like Cabd's playing this weird egotistical game at the moment and I'm reminded of the like seven times he tells me that he always does what you the players don't expect as scum. He is clearly playing differently. I don't

attribute enough skill to him to do that as town

think he'd double meta gambit like that with this playerlist.

His page one post was almost 100% a gambit too IMO.

Cabd, scum/townreads por favor

Useless at the moment.

[Natirasha]

Is there some reason why you two aren't OD'ing on flavor spec?

Still waiting for fuckng Feirei to talk to me on this.

[Natirasha]

The rules post has been edited. Please be sure to read it.

Also the OP has been updated with the necessary items. (Curse my tiredness)

Oooh does this mean me next?[/bitch]

[Natirasha]

The fact that the mod had to specify and add the town wincon to the first post..... hmmm...

Yup, fferylit's now an IC. Woo.

[Natirasha]

Anyways, FINALLY got my answers.

I'm not rolespecing because
1. It's been up to half a decade since I've played most of these games, some of which I played in moonrunes originally.
2. It's UPick, so flavor is more volatile than usual.
3. I'm what Tarhalindur would call a "flavor landmine" if you wanna go down that route, so I'm forced to rely on mostly setup spec(Cabd should know who I picked as my character and why it would be unprudent to pursue this route).

PEDIT@Ffery: I'm going to go on previous-game "mod mistakes" and say it was a genuine mistake.

[Natirasha]

Wait are we seriously doing the Unvotes-required thing.

UNVOTE: VOTE: Feirei

Why aren't you voting for Cabd if you think he's Scum?

Better question is why aren't YOU voting Cabd?

[Natirasha]

Wait are we seriously doing the Unvotes-required thing.

This screams mechanic, fwiw, not a feature of every CSL rules set from my skimming.

-.- It's not, but I am reminded of a conversation I had with him a few weeks ago where he said he liked my rule in DotA UPick and was considering it for future games.

[Natirasha]

At what point did I indicate that I thought Cabd was Scum?

At which point did you indicate you thought Cabd wasn't scum?

Get used to the moon logic, sister, we're on Derris-Kharlan now!

[Natirasha]

Lolcharacterflailclaims. She's dead, get over it, prettyboy.

The other one, Cabd.

She still lives on in my heart!

[Natirasha]

Vote counts steal Vi's deadlines and Tar's jokey titles and do both not as well.

That absolute shit Cabd is getting away with is insane

(although I guess I'm relying on a similar creed right now)

.

Deadline clearly either works on some unknown factor or is just whatever.

Gaiden stop being weird. Or at least, stop before I leave this deathtunnel.

Still pissy here.

[Natirasha]

Why aren't you voting for Cabd if you think he's Scum?

Why does one have to vote for who they think is scum? Is my case any less valid?

[Natirasha]

Because I'm

lazy

taking the slow path.

[Natirasha]

Yeah, Iso, fferylit's confirmed town due to the mod error pretty much unless we're assuming scum have fakeclaims w/wincons attached(which I don't believe to be the case based off previous mod meta).

And fine! If

everyone

wants me to vote VOTE: Cabd.

[Natirasha]

How are you able to assume that "Hamil" isn't mentioned in the scum wincon?

Good point.

Also unpack the Cabd read for me

Caught the lack of town wincon, gambited ffery into giving it to him. Play is more ego-driven than usual(#52,#98). Starts attacking me aggressively--usually allows me to toy with him for a while. Flat out claims he hasn't gambited yet, when no matter how you look at it page one is something resembling one. Spent much of the day manipulating fferylit.

[Natirasha]

This is kinda where I disagree hugely, and the more I think about it makes me think he's more town; I don't possibly know how scum-cabd could have known that there was a town wincon with specifically the name of a town in it (he was very specific in what he asked for) unless it was in his scum pm, but if he had a fakeclaim with that wincon or just had it listed somewhere else or however it manifests itself, I just don't think he even thinks to make that play. I know someone's going to come in here and say I'm underestimating him, but I don't think so.

A good point as well.

Also if you go with a premise that Cabd is scum who somehow knew to ask about Hamil, you can't auto-assume ffery was town for knowing the answer. There actually is one case where that play from cabd-scum makes sense: if ffery is ALSO scum (in which case you argue that the scum PM does have Hamil somewhere in it). That's kinda tinfoil-hatty and I don't even want to go down that road unless we get a scum flip from one or the other.

Shit would suck if Morph the Cat were in this game.

[Natirasha]

hi

Make with the japes, fool.

[Natirasha]

Well I mean, your other posts did not instill confidence in me.

[Natirasha]

What are your thoughts on my

made up shit

case, fferylit?

[Natirasha]

Can someone with more experience with Gaiden actually tell me if he always pulls the ns gambit like this?

Anyways, I was hammiing it up, Skullduggery. I was going to vote Cabd at some point, but I mean, I have to get in character.

[Natirasha]

Well, you have a quote form Saki in your sig so you've clearly played with someone in this game likely.

[Natirasha]

So what is the "ns gambit"?

A gambit I started back in 2008. It essentially goes "act scummy and murky as possible to excuse my weird behavior as town". I calll it the ns gambit since he (used to) utilize it a lot.

[Natirasha]

Yeah, sorry, I phrased that horribly.

[Natirasha]

Original Roll String: 1d2

1 2-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

[Natirasha]

Sorry, Iso, dice telling me to not change votes.

[Natirasha]

The Sirens are dice?

Thanks for reminding me, didn't have enough snark.

Sorry, Iso,

dice

the sirens are telling me to not change votes.

[Natirasha]

SOFTCLAIM TIME: I never lie when I claim the specific role I have.

BRB Asking Tar for Iso meta info.

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: That deserves a .

[Natirasha]

child please

Damn fferylit, have you been hanging around Tierce lately?

go hump a cactus

Oh, nevermind, I see how it is.

All you're doing is just being there saying "Oh i think X is scum" like Wisdom, except Wisdom at least backs up his arguments.

I am scumhunting in my own way

But seriously, I'm asking questions to try and figure shit out. Your version of scumhunting is to call someone out for not scumhunting, if that's even scumhunting considering that's the only thing remotely close. Let alone the fact that it's page like 10. He hasn't started scumhunting yet. Syr has posted a lot too and guess what- neither has he.

He's also a newbie and really lowhanging fruit that's easy for scum to push for bad reasons.

Yeah, no.

Hey Iso.

Hey guys, I spotted the thread!

[Natirasha]

Hi!

Would you prefer I tell ffery to hump your leg instead of a cactus?

Too lewd!

Elaborate, Nati.

Sorry, i thought that was Sakura quote, not a ns quote. No thread-spotting here. You're still town though.

[Natirasha]

Everyone's so terse and serious this game.

[Natirasha]

Welcome to Mafia, may I take your hat?

Related: Read thread title as "Tales of uSuck" on my way in this time.

Most of this player list has played together enough to have developed something of a rapport. It's unnatural for there to be so little trolling going on, even our resident jester Syryana is not doing it.

[Natirasha]

I don't think I can get much more trollish than a naked vote with no telegraphing.

I knew what you were doing.

Should I troll harder?

Because I can.

if you so choose.

[Natirasha]

I'd rather be the cool uncle anyways, so whatevs.

[Natirasha]

Nati are you thinking that everybody but you got a scum role PM?

Actually I have a healthy townblock right now. Iso is like playing god tier obvtown smart guy(Really, I would have been disappointed if he didn't), and I've got you+Skullduggery as strongly town as well. ns+bork to a lesser degree.

Slightly less suspicious of Cabd, but I'm not getting rid of the deathtunnel until he can adequately explain his standoff attitude this game. Need Syr to pretend he's not part of Rift Adrift and actually post. Need others to talk.

Think scum is Gaiden/Cabd/{TAM/Hanasawa/pitoli}. Could perhaps be convinced of Sakura, but unsure where to go with her.

Oh, right, gotcha. I think I'll refrain from doing anything in-character since that would make it super-obvious who I picked. >_>

Get used to the ham.

[Natirasha]

Okay Nati, explain your semi scum read on me please.

Mostly an issue of activity. Notice, though, I put you in a group with the two other non-factors. It's hardly a scumread.

[Natirasha]

lel

[Natirasha]

Cabd why so quiet about these gamebreaking maneuvers?

[Natirasha]

Okay, yeah, that was an unfair question, I apologize. Agree on the second point, though.

[Natirasha]

Because I've modded a ton of mafia games, and I know how to mod-wifom the everloving shit out of addendums to the opening info.

Let's just say I am not entirely sure Feirei does.

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: Lol Cabd

[Natirasha]

It makes sense, although the bork stuff is stronger than the ffery-you stuff.

[Natirasha]

So, I come back from a wonderful date with my girlfriend and what do I find? A solved gamestate? Oh my!

The Ninth Tally of Votes (AKA This wine might be poisoned.)

With

13

healthy players, it takes

7

to incapacitate someone.

Hanasawa is V/LA until 11/1 at latest

Syryana requested replacement. Expect the deadline to fall drastically.

Don't drink the WIFOM, people.

Deadline:

91%

Hey Feirei, stop while you're behind. This whole post screams damage control.

Syryana requested replacement. Expect the deadline to fall drastically.

lel, scumclaim. Syr would never replace out of this player list unless some serious mod fuckery was going on. And, conveniently, there IS!

Unvote

Vote: Syryana's Slot

Should probably leave battery deadlines to Vi, TBQH.

Quote for the fucking truth! Nacho can do it, too.

Nope. It's OVERALL activity. If there's lots of posting, then it won't be any change at all (maybe an increase). It's just an estimate.

wtf is this shit

I'm like on page 3 so forgive me if I know fuck-all what you're doing

Fun fact: we lynch you tomorrow! It's okay, though, because even if you're town, you still win! With Syr dead, we can mislynch for days!

This post seemed weird btw, in relation to all the confotowns being created.

I was snarking at the continuing increase of conftown. Oh, if only I was watching this game at the correct time to get that awesome bubble!

No it's okay. It doesn't really matter. I don't think it's like Vi's games where character claiming is punished though. We COULD massclaim only characters and be fine if you really wanted to, but I think it's kinda pointless if characters and alignments aren't related. Hell, nati claimed a villain.

Fun fact: all three of my submissions were villains: Sword Dancer, Yuan, and (my role). I was trying to think of characters that could bait an SK role.
...it didn't work.

Fill this out as you go:

Phantasia: {Sakura, Nati}
Abyss: {Syr's Slot}
Symphonia (and symphonia II): {Gaiden}
Xillia: { }
Vesperia {Cabd}
Graces: { }
Other { }

Fixed that for you.

[Natirasha]

I put forward that anyone who picked someone from symphonia II who wasn't also in symphonia needs to reexamine their life choices

But dreams are the magic that turns our dreams into reality!

[Natirasha]

EBWOP: I just butchered that, I formally apologize.

[Natirasha]

For what it's worth on the claiming front, I don't actually think there is a Death Note in this game on basis of our mod not instilling a single shred of confidence in me.

[Natirasha]

Oh, shoutout to Sakura Hana who respects the origins of the series.

[Natirasha]

So quick question.

Does anyone think Syryana's slot is NOT scum?

[Natirasha]

let's give syr's slot the viking funeral it needs.

Is this related to the replace out like you guys have been implying? If so i'll happily sheep that. Otherwise can you run me through the why?.

Day still got over 90% last i checked do we really need to flashlynch him with 5 conf towns where 1 of them will most prob. die tonight?

If all 5 of you are conftown we can literally just blind lynch and win prob. But, yes, it's the replace out. Syryana would NOT replace out of this player list unless there is something going on behind the scenes. And, in this case, there is a clear and obvious answer to what that could be.

[Natirasha]

Okay, scum were me+Syryana+Gaiden.

I was Dhaos, 2-shot strongman.
Syr was Jade Curtiss, Godfather.
Gaiden was Raine, roleblocker.

GO!

[Natirasha]

My list was as claimed.
1. Dhaos
2. Sword Dancer
3. Yuan

[Natirasha]

/Confirm, blah blah blah

^Crumbing rita mordio in his confirm post like a boss

I figured you and anyone who lurked site chat would just know who I chose off the bat, since I seem to remember saying Dhaos was really cool numerous times in site chat.

[Natirasha]

Ehh, Nati started pinging me in retrospect, but I ignored it because I like him.

Eh, I'll probably end up playing a game on your home turf soon. Just need to find one with a *specific playerlist*.

I knew my only way out this game after the confirmations came out was pushing hard and taking a lead role, so I intentionally hammed up and played more aggressive than normal. I was surrpised no one called me out(although functionally I knew this was unwinnable with Gaiden/Syr being obvscum).

[Natirasha]

Chester respect!