NY 167: COMPLETELY NORMAL Mafia (GAME OVER)

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VOTE: Hermy

I'm down for this PL.

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THIS IS MY EGOPOST GM ITS OKAY I LOVE YOU AND IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER ILL SEND A PICTURE OF MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT INTO HERE

THIS IS MY EGOPOST GM ITS OKAY I LOVE YOU AND IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL A PICTURE OF MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT INTO HERE

I LOVE YOU IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT INTO HERE

I LOVE YOU IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT

I MAKES YOU FEEL MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT

I MAKES YOU FEEL MY KAT

I MAKES KAT

IM A SK

VOTE: Cabd / MC Makara

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Depends if you can make scum waste a bullet on it.

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Just to clarify, I've been leashed when I was investigated as guilty, but single handedly got a scum lynched so everyone assumed I was SK but was actually third party Arsonist, and everyone kept telling me to NK or they'd lynch me, so I ended up just dousing and igniting day 5 for a win.

It makes me very leery of leashing people.

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Given arsonist is a non normal role, you don't have to worry about that!

For [reasons] I know that while not explicitly normal, arson is not non-normal.

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N2 I was supposed to kill someone and the mafia killed him for me.

Then they kept telling me to NK.

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Larger games tend not to be single scum faction from my experience.

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Please don't lynch me.

I'm town.

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I'm town guys.

Don't lynch me please.

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Seriously though I'm town.

Lynch someone else !

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Please don't lynch me.

I'm town.

I'm town guys.

Don't lynch me please.

Seriously though I'm town.

Lynch someone else !

We misheard you the first three times.

Speak up.

No but seriiiiiiiiiiiously I'm a town sided player >:(

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Caled, why do you think I'm doing it?

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I've been jester a few times. Last time I was jester I claimed cop equiv with a guilty and then it turned out my guilty was a macho doublevoter innocent child, so I got lynched asap.

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VOTE: Octuplevote: RadiantCowbells

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How sure are you that I'm not an octuplevoter who just selflynched?

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Thoeretically, if I was to have legitimately octuplevoted myself right now, and flipped town octuplevoter, would you think that reads negatively onto Toomai?

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Jekyll Jekyll Hyde Jekyll Hyde Hyde Jekyll

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How sure are you that I'm not an octuplevoter who just selflynched?

100% sure, because neither you nor the mod and reviewers are blithering idiots.

You sure are blithering though. How about you comment on other players instead of parading yourself around.

I daresay that a single use octuple voter would be reasonably allowable to go into the save.

Don't forget, it's basically Governor, which I saw in an old normal game that I was looking through.

Now, how certain are you that I'm not a blithering idiot?

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VOTE: Hermy

I don't like the way she sheeped that wagon.

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VOTE: TIP

stop that mmming

VOTE: Hermy

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Jacob Savage is probably the serial killer

So, why SK and not other scum?

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Oh.

Yeah, but I figured that it was some sort of legit accusation.

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can hydras sign their posts pl0x

This always pings me. Are you really planning on meta'ing hydra heads? And if you cant tell which head is posting anyways, your analysis specific to each head will probably suck.

Spoiler:

THIS IS MY EGOPOST GM ITS OKAY I LOVE YOU AND IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER ILL SEND A PICTURE OF MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT INTO HERE

THIS IS MY EGOPOST GM ITS OKAY I LOVE YOU AND IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL A PICTURE OF MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT INTO HERE

I LOVE YOU IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT INTO HERE

I LOVE YOU IF IT MAKES YOU FEEL MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT

I MAKES YOU FEEL MY KAT FOR YOU TO EDIT

I MAKES YOU FEEL MY KAT

I MAKES KAT

IM A SK

VOTE: Cabd / MC Makara

RC could you explain this SK read to me? Why is he an SK and not group scum?

We are relieved to learn that our random vote has landed in an intelligent place!

Interesting use of the word intelligent :S - why was MVP's post noteworthy?

Actually, good question for everyone. SK is found day one. Lynch or leash? Give reasoning, there will be a grading rubric.

Cabd, is this you? Why are you flooding P2 with shitty questions and dumb RC quotes? Leave the shitposting to BRO and I thanks.

Because I am group scum and know for a fact that he isnt one of us, and something in the way our scumteam is set up suggests that there are no other full scumteams, but we have reason to believe that there is a SK because one of us has bulletproof.

Duh.

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I was joking.

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^i'm town, that guy has the right of it

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What did white mage do?

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However he seems to be just taking the piss

>what

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What is taking the piss and how am I doing it?

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But I'm town!

My role pm was in

magenta

green

!

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What's your point?

His point is obv "please vig me! I have this big red target behind my back!".

-L. J.

What if I ended up being vigged and flipped a confirmable town role, such as Mason or Innocent Child or Beloved, who was trying to bait reactions since looking scummy isn't an object for someone who isn't going to end up being lynched anyway?

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I know you're a much better player than this because I've seen you do it, so get with the program.

source

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I never had a chance to catch up in 165 cuz I was being pressured for the gate and was too busy to reread everything.

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Correct.

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I really need time to catch up.

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VOTE: Angry Frat Br0s

I think Orcinus is town and I follow his reasoning.

This guy is way too defensive in his own right, so my vote goes here.

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Y'know what likeabauss? Fine. You'll get what you want. If Orci flips scum then... well done. If he flips town then you get lynched. Alright?

VOTE: Orci

This makes me physically ill.

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@GoodMorning, not sure if someone has stolen my vote but I am not currently voting Orcinus.

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Okay, Navi.

So first I was trolling while I waited to have reads.

Then http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Influenza

Then I came back and all was glorious and good

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Hahaha. Crushed? That's almost the worst rebuttal I've ever seen. I didn't even think it was serious, I thought you were just raging and typing. But if that is your rebuttal, it is your best foot forward, and you're confident with it in its current form, I'll gladly respond... (likely on Monday when I'm at a computer.) Do you want to phone a friend? Or maybe use another lifeline? Because "LOLOL, UR Moron" isn't exactly a crushing rebuttal.

You've consistently failed to address any point I've raised about why you're case is horrible.

You're being loud and obnoxious to get people to sheep you without substantiating any claims.

Now that I've calmed down, I can put my vote in a serious place.

VOTE: Bauss that level of narrative manipulation can't come from town.

Other than Bauss, who else do you think is scum on your wagon?

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Scumread on Guyett's diminished a bit because of how apologetic he got; scum normally try to goad me further when I get emotional.

Actually, I find the opposite.

Scum don't want to upset people who they know are town; town don't mind upsetting people as much 'cause they think that they are scum trying to divert attention.

So, why am I scum?

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Or that Guyett is scum and Angry Frat BROs is scum too.

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1232 was about how I would see it from Frat BRO's POV vs how he saw it, and the differences in the logic suggest that his thinking isn't genuine.

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Also being incredibly rude to your scumpartners is a good distancing tactic: see http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25685 for me using it effectively.

Angry Frat Bro just doesn't seem genuine at all. Especially his rage posts seem forced.

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I don't like the above post.

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No way, Orcinus is not happening.

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http://www.areumadbro.ca/~lolsomad.http

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Frat Bros get mad when called dicks

but it's okay for them to call others retards and assholes

#logic

This has nothing at all to do with the game and only serves to piss people off.

The name's Rustle, Jimmy Rustle.

Do you bite your thumb at me sir?

I do bite my thumb, sir.

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There's a big leaning town one though: laziness.

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Annie is way cuter than Teemo.

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That looks fun.

I should do it too.

VOTE: RC

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I, like my avatar, suck early and scale well into late game.

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Not at all. Annie's late game is absolutely fantastic. She's actually weakest levels 4 and 5.


With regards to this game, I can't keep up with 17 people.

If I'm still alive when the game gets smaller, I'll be a lot more useful. Otherwise, no hard feelings if I'm getting lynched today.

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I have a strong scumread on Frat Br0s.

I have a mild townread on TIP.

I have a mild townread on Likeabauss.

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Everyone else is null to me.

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IDK mate.

I thought I was pretty obviously town, guess I was wrong :v

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In support of Bauss, FratBros doesn't look angry.

He looks like he's making a show of being angry, without any genuine anger behind it, hence my vote.

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Does anyone else not see that FratBros being this hard to lynch makes him obvious scum?

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Delete that, it somehow got posted in the wrong game. -_-

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I never wanted an Orc lynch.

I want fking Frat Bro.

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Why don't you put your vote back on BR0s then ^_^

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Caled isn't happening.

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VOTE: Angry Frat Bros

This wagon could use some more support~

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Orcinus could in fact be scum.

I'd still rather do Frat Br0s.

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I never give more than that.

If I were to try to explain why I feel that way, no one would understand it.

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*grazes grass contentedly*

Baaaaaah.

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AFB is the best lynch, Orcinus I am okay with, Caled is not happening, JS is null to me.

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No no no no no no no.

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Caled is town this is a scum led lynch.

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^ that

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Caled is town this is a scum led lynch.

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VOTE: Orcinus

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Normally I'd claim cop right here.

I'm not going to this game.

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Normally I'd claim cop, gambiting that he's fake, to secure his lynch and make mafia target me the next night.

Not because I am cop. I might be something else though.

And its not trolling at all, it's a success story.

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Never done that.

I'd need someone to claim as my mason partner.

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Anyway, I am mason this game.

With Caleb.

^_^

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Protip: It's better for the real cop to be NKed than MLed.

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I think he's scum.

If not now, then when?

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That's for EM where there's a confirmed cop in the setup and if he's getting too prolific scum have to sac.

Like Janitorial 2.0.

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There isn't necessarily a real cop hiding out there somewhere.

Why do you even think there's a cop in the setup?

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There isn't necessarily a real cop hiding out there somewhere.

Why do you even think there's a cop in the setup?

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No, it's really not going over my head AT ALL.

This is the kind of dilemma that is constantly happening at EM.

If we don't lynch orcinus now, then when are we going to lynch him?

Substitute "cop" for "investigative role" if you wish. 17 player game is gonna have some sort of strong investigative role in it. It would be really weird if it didn't. Compare prior 17P games here if you want. Red wedding had town JOAT (with a cop shot), commuter, cop (flavored), lovers, for one example.

Why can't there be a cop AND a watcher? They aren't mutually exclusive claims.

We're not going to get any more certain that Orcinus is mafia, so unless I can get a lynch that I scumread more (ie FratBr0) it's the lynch for the day.

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TIP, if you vote FratBro we have a deal.

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Then we're at an impasse.

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If Caled gets lynched today and flips town, you're implicitly giving me permission to decide the next 3 lynches.

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He's most likely a valuable maf PR.

Maybe a role cop or ninja.

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Scum so brazen this game.

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If we're just going to let him live because of the cop claim, what's to stop every single other scum from claiming a PR and not getting lynched.

The development cycle consisted of the lazy bastards at Activision and Infinity Ward opening up "MW3.exe", making a few tweaks and saving it as "CODGhosts.exe", again hyping up the copy-and-pasted game so gullible fools will buy the same game they've been playing for the past 6 years. Great job guys.

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I think Toomai is scum too.

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Is it better to lynch scum or not lynch scum.

>Toomai 2013

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Still hesitant to lynch scum, but if I continue this hardline I'm a guaranteed lynch tomorrow.

Sakura is either scum or town that I'm white knighting for towncred.

I wish we would lynch town instead of my scumbuddy.

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Annie!

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Cabd seems to be claiming role cop.

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VOTE: orcinus

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VOTE: Angry Frat BR0s

I'm not going to let you use a null action to justify pushing on an obvtown.

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Don't have time to read; Hermy is town, get on AFB. Haven't had internet for a few days.

here is no way Hermy is getting anywhere near LyLo.

I will make sure she does.

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Hermy is town.

AFB is not.

Questions?

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Honestly I don't know how AFB survived the first day but he's not surviving this one.

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I'm not taking an "i'm telling you" from the person who jumped off Orc as soon as it picked up steam.

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I've been scum with Broseidon and played scum against his town game.

This is him being scum, not town.

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I got banned for being so certain that Hermy was scum because of shit like that, when she was actually town.

I will not make that mistake again.

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Guyett isn't a townread but there's no way he's today's lynch.

Get off.

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I don't care if GUyett's scum.

I'll die tonight then the AFB lynch never happens.

Get the fuck off or I want a promise from every single one of you taht AFB is tomorrow's lynch.

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Not a mislynch, you're scum and its horribly obvious.

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Not a mislynch, you're scum and its horribly obvious.

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MC, when AFB flips scum I'm going to lynch you next.

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No, I know exactly what you're doing.

You're cocky and you think that you can avert an AFB lynch.

It's not happening, he's getting lynched, then you're getting lynched, then the rest of your shitty scumteam.

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Yoshi, vote AFB.

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I'd think Guyett is scum based on his play but literally every single scumread of mine is on his wagon.

So, there's no way that lynch is happening. Now get AFB.

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I

want

you in Lylo.

Tips his fedora.

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I would rather stall out a NL than lynch anyone who isn't AFB.

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Okay, fine.

COP HERE. I HAVE A GUILTY ON AFB.

WE ARE LYNCHING HIM NOW SINCE YOU MOTHER FUCKERS COULDN'T TAKE THE HINT.

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N1 Hermy N2 AFB

No, I'm not fucking retracting. He's not a protective role at all, and you're going down next.

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Because I am utterly incapable of reading Hermy.

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I almost didn't investigate him because I was so sure he was scum.

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MC for trying to defend him.

Possibly you.

Probably Jacob.

Maybe Sangres.

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This sentence is a blatant lie. Lack of contraction + use of intensifier to amplify honesty. I can smell the duper's delight through my computer.

You're saying it's a lie because I'm lying not because the sentence is a lie.

Which is in essence agreeing to the premise, aka you being scum.

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Why lynch confirmed scum when I can lynch non confirmed scum and out with invests later?

At least you didn't make Hermy up on the spot

If you are a cop RC you FUCKING BLOW at this game

Blow me.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVFbs_hAJrc

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RC's a shit player making a shit play that was set up poorly.

Not scum though. Just shit.

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Relax and just lynch the scum.

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because you fucking made up a cop guilty

Why do you keep acting like I'm about to retract?

No, you're literally insane. That's what I'm saying. Your results are mixed up. Hermy's the scum.

I don't buy dis.

Great fucking job RC

You're welcome.


Now can we lynch AFB, aka my guilty, AKA not a protective role, AKA scum with MC Maraca.

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Part of me wants to just utility lynch RC to clear the wifom on this shit. The rest of me says that tippy knows what's up and I should sheep him.

No, how about everyone lynches my guilty that didn't claim miller.

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how about we don't and also fuck you

Fuck me for outing with my guilty and having everyone not believe me?

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>utility lynch the person who claimed a guilty that makes me guilty by extension because I'm defending his sorry scum ass

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If after Hermy flips town people keep finding excuses not to lynch AFB I am going to laugh so hard.

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I love how cocky you guys are and you'll probably win because of how stupid this town is.

I really hope there's a SK, because they'll know 3 scum at this point.

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You know as soon as either of you die the other goes instantly too?

This isn't going to last long, especially when Hermy flips town, which she's positively going to.

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Same to you qtpi.

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The only way MC could be non-scum is if Roleblocking is classified as a protective action, which I've seen it as.

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AFB is getting lynched at the end of the day.

What happens before then doesn't matter.

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http://wiki.sc2mafia.com/index.php?titl ... Protective

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I'm not buying the existence of a mafia doctor in a save where one person died last night.

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It's not relevant anyway since you are clearly full of shit, but...

Then lynch me and know for sure.

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There's no town motivation in simultaneously trying to discredit me and not pushing a lynch on me.

Today we're my guilty, and no one else.

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The vast majority of my scumreads jumped to Orcinus from AFB.

That suggests that AFB is some sort of scum PR, which give further credence to MC's defending him.

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Also, at no point did MC Maraca or AFB try to get me lynched.

They just wanted me discredited and ignored.

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I'm okay with getting lynched.

But everyone has to swear to me that AFB will go down after me.

If that can happen, we're all clear. No excuses, nothing.

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This is a lynch that I will accept over AFB.

VOTE: Sangres

I also strongly suspect TIP. I think he would be a good lynch candidate after we deal with AFB.

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Actually, with me being in an already precarious position I'm going to go ahead and say TIP is obviously town instead of hoping to keep him alive.

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I was going to comment but then I realized that was what you were doing there

Smoothest wifomer NA I ain't.

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It would be objectively stupid for MCMscum to lie about this.

There's a sociology going on with this scum team... they are all (or a majority are) experienced players (I called them cool kids earlier.) I hinted at this a couple times earlier. The team got picked, QT opened up, and I bet somebody said something or most of the people thought to themselves "Shit, our team is stacked with power players. We're going to win this shit." I'm inferring this because they're doing things that I consider rash and/or brazen for D1 in mafia. Openly defending each other,

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More theory questions.

1) Why did so many people jump ship to Orc from AFB.
2) If Likeabauss died and AFB was town, scum would clearly be planning to capitalize and push that lynch safely. Yet this lynch is so difficult to pull off that a cop guilty didn't even do it. Why?
3) Why are they trying to discredit me but not trying to get other people to lynch me?

Ball is in your court, people.

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Also, we can leash our supposed protective role tonight and either ensure the survival of one of our PRs or delete all wifom regarding it being scum.

For obvious reasons, it's TIP that I think should be leash guarded.


Cephrir, you're claiming to have more shots. That means you shot last night.

Who did you shoot? And who are you going to shoot tonight, so that if our resident scumdoc protects them we know?

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Actually, I'm having a change of heart with respect to how I'm approaching this whole claim situation. We have three invstigative roles out and we have the option to ensure at least one of them, assuming one is fake, probably gets another night. That's better than anything I'm going to do. And I'm afraid of the possibility I'll die tonight while scumdoc AFB potentially (not for sure that he's scum but if he is I get fucking wrecked) saves the person I am 99% sure is scum. Meanwhile I don't think I'm breadcrumbing effectively and the people I think are probably town aren't the people who are going to see breadcrumbs and act on them. So, fuck it.

I killed caledfwitch.

VOTE: Sangres

p-edit: yep you're damn right

I'm immensely pleased you outted yourself. Ffery and I were going to use our free day in order to attempt to lynch you, although that was going to be impressively difficult.

what

[RadiantCowbells]

So you're claiming scum but also saying that he's SK.

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And that's why you guys have a mafia doctor?

To counteract the SK?

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I mean that bit never made any sense because I thought there was just a 1 shot vig.

Things are starting to come into place.

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I think I might be 5/5 on scum.

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I can't see the purpose in ahving a vig and a mafia doctor.

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Oh also, if you're town, you're an idiot for shooting Caled.

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Actually there's a really fucking easy way to deal with this.

Serial killers NEVER have guns in flavour. They kill with knives.

So, Mr. Bigshot Protective is going to be on TIP, and TIP checks Cephrir.

If you scum guys legitimately think he's SK, you get no benefit out of wifoming this.

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Oh, and AFB, if you somehow slip and target the wrong person, we are NEVER lynching Cephrir this game, so if he's really BP SK, you're basically guaranteed to lose.

So make this happen.

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If MC's scum, why is Ceph in the townblock?

I'd expect mafia to try to balls deep a wagon on a suspected SK, unless Cephrir is really town vig and not SK and mafia knew that but are now trying to push a mislynch on vig.

We'll find out tomorrow from TIP I guess.

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Regardless, ball is in Maf's court.

I die tonight so I'd like to make a few reminders before I do.

1) AFB is scum. This one's obvious.
2) Hermy is inno. Possible GF so don't take this one to the bank, but don't lynch her until lylo and only if there's good reason to suspect it's a good idea.
3) TIP is town. If I die and TIP dies, you obviously lynch AFB but following that you lynch Cephrir on no condition.
4) MC is probscum. Depending on whether I die, you will get more information on the matter.

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VOTE: Sangres

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Just letting you know, besides the confscum's you're my strongest scumread.

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I buy peregrine scum.

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yeah I know, I'm just saying I would lynch Cephrir if we somehow end up in a LyLo situation and all my other scumreads are dead

No, you won't.

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Oh, the game ended? Great.

Nah, I'm just a VT.

RC's claim was obviously fake the entire time. He couldn't get me lynched on his own, so he needed to come up with a fake claim to go for it.

Not my fault town wouldn't listen to me.

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To be fair my fakeclaim won the game handily.

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Bauss was pretty legit.

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Yoshi~!

[RadiantCowbells]

There was some really good town play in this game. I was super impressed with Yessirree, Ceph, Guyett, TiP and Toomai. Hermy also. Jacob lurked hardcore, and we thought we'd eventually be able to mislynch him, but probably not with the JOAT.

RC I was recently fake-guiltied by another player who wouldn't retract the gambit because he couldn't read my reaction as town. I was lynched. You happened to be right, but I have no respect for the way you handled the gambit. Recent experience makes me extremely skeptical of people who fake-claim guilties and don't treat it as a data acquisition exercise. Trying to strong-arm your read that way is risky as fuck. It lost town the game on day 4 when it happened to me. I don't think town was in a position to win that game, but it didn't have to be such a curbstomp.

It was a data acquisition exercise.

Their reactions were mutually awful so I knew they were scum after it.

[RadiantCowbells]

If I had admitted it I'd have been lynched and then AFB and MC wouldn't have been at that point, or perhaps ever.

If town wants to be blind I will do the heavy lifting myself.

[RadiantCowbells]

If I had admitted it I'd have been lynched and then AFB and MC wouldn't have been at that point, or perhaps ever.

If town wants to be blind I will do the heavy lifting myself.

If you admitted it almost immediately, you wouldnt be lynched over it. Then it's just a reaction test.

Then he doesn't get lynched.

[RadiantCowbells]

[RadiantCowbells]

I have resorted to fakeclaiming cop twice in my time here.

Both times I was right.

It's not something I do lightly, I assure you.

[RadiantCowbells]

A game isn't all about you (and this is coming from me, one of the most self-centered players ever) it's about knowing the strength of everyone else around you, working together to get scum/town eliminated.

Mine is figuring out who the scum is.

Not convincing other people to vote them.