Mini 1525: Tales of The Abyss Mafia GAME OVER!

[Mac]

vote: fuzzylogic

semi-serious. it's not rvs anyway. his opening felt awkward and i dont like his caution about an rvs wagon.

[Mac]

Why is that scummy, Mac?

he has no reason to tiptoe around the edges of the wagon as town.

thanks for the meta-ing ffery! ill take a closer look at those soon.

[Mac]

unvote

for now.

one thing that's annoying me is that you didn't let fuzzy react to my vote before jumping straight into his meta, ffery. i would've expected you to do your research and wait, but you pretty much gave fuzzy a get out of jail free card which he took advantage of. how come?

kaze's vote is poor. mainly because the gambit itself was bad.

Total conjecture, though. He agreed his role was blue and the townie role isn't blue. That's that.

stretching like mad here. he agreed he was town, not that his role PM was blue.

I've seen town blithely ignore rolecard colors way too often to put any stock in it as a test.

hyrule newbie actually sprung to mind here... like it always does

Kaze is so town because he's early aggressive omgz

Yes, I am aware of my meta.

And I didn't like this. Why not let Orci explain why you're town instead of running to the meta assumption?

if you didn't like this, how did you feel about ffery early on? see the first past of this post for what I mean.

and Mac is weird

hey

[Mac]

Are you suggesting because I was annoyed at Kaze I should also have been annoyed at Ffery? Can you clarify your question, sorry... I don't see them as quite parallel instances

not at all. i'm asking your opinion. they are not directly parallel, i agree. but i feel they are in similar in that both have interjected before someone else could answer.

i'm still unsure on fuzzy at the moment.

[Mac]

No fair

I hate you all.

Kaze, Orci, town

Tammy-town?

VOTE: Fuzzy

FOS: Decon Blue

Hi, Ffery who's you're partner?

Your FoS is dumb.

bork is my partner.

He told me he might post tomorrow but I'll probably yell at him if he does because new babby.

does this mean what I think it means?

[Mac]

If you were gonna point out fery intercepting with meta points, why not bring up then?

because he hadn't actually used it yet. yes it interupted my line of thought, but fuzzy may have come up with another reason. i wasn't exactly gonna point and say "LOOK AT YOUR GET OUT OF JAIL FREE CARD."

Oh also slight townlean on MafiaSSK for this post:

Mac wagons don't go whack.

(Call me a hypocrite. I don't care.)

why is it giving you a townlean?

First off, sorry. If someone had wandered through my line of questioning I would have been pretty snarky about it.

I didn't wait was mostly for two reasons:

- In a few recent games I haven't jumped right onto an issue about a lynchbait-looking player and the situation got out of hand and the player was quicklynched. I have crossed into a mindset of prevention when I think I see that happening.

- This reason should have caused me to wait because it's in opposition to that one. I thought that your sudden push out of RVS on page 1 was out of character. Usually players who push for a quick end to RVS are town, but the combo of ending RVS and doing so by jumping on a weak-looking player was a high-alert moment.

The way you reacted to my quick meta of his opening posts bothered me even more. If you had argued it, or told me to get out of your line of inquiry I would have felt a lot more comfortable than I did with your "thanks I'll have a look later"

understandable about your quicklynch concerns. it's not the greatest reasoning for jumping straight in because i feel like most of this playerlist is not like that but you never can tell.

wrt to me being quite nonchalant at the time was, as I said to gif, because i didn't really want to give him any ideas of using it or pointing it out. i was hoping he'd come up with his own independent reasoning but evidently not.

Yes!

awesome, congrats bork!

ou were, though. And Mara pointing it out like that was one of the things I like about her posts.

i didn't think i was.

[Mac]

unvote

[Mac]

Hey guys. I will get to who the scum on my wagon is later. Have an exam tomorrow. Although gut says The Rufflig and Tammy.

VOTE: Tammy

this isnt very good.

[Mac]

nah there was no intent. i knew you'd know i wasnt on the wagon.

will all that done, that wagon built at an incredibly quick speed. makes me lean prohawk town on that alone but his posts have left me unconvinced.

[Mac]

why those 2 specifically, kaze?

you seem to have developed a habit of not explaining your reads so far, fuzzy aside.

[Mac]

Its actually great Mac

no it's not at all ever.

Also what makes you think scum don't start wagons?

are you scumreading nacho?

Haven't read the game.

Here. Have some incentive to do so.

VOTE: Tammy

not great. a cheap place to park your vote and make it look like you're doing something.

yeah ok that's terrible.

VOTE: rufflig

i was thinking that prohawk would've been more productive but this works as well

there's something about this post that feels off. maybe it's the fact you took so long to vote rufflig?

where's mara? did she draw scum?

vote: prohawk

i think his running away at L-1 wasn't town motivated. i remember doing that as scum once, named my buddy and one of those on my wagon, and i got townread for it too. i want more from him.

i could also vote kaze, possibly rufflig but im not too mad about it aaaand possibly orcinus. which saddens me

[Mac]

aaaand possibly orcinus

Talk to me about this.

his play feels off this game. he doesn't feel town. gut perhaps.

meanwhile, you can talk to me about kaze?

[Mac]

i'd offer to talk to nacho but i know that probably won't amount to anything

mac what's up

hang on orci we'll talk it out. give me a sec to figure out what's churning my stomach.

[Mac]

your early vote on fuzzy felt like you were trying to take advantage of what kaze was trying to pull with the gambit. you did say it was for him being awkward though, which summed up how i was feeling but it annoyed me how it came after the vote.

fery if you're manipulating me here i'll kill you

i think you are town though

this felt forced and i didn't understand why you felt the need to post it as town.

voting in spirit with tammy wasn't great either: why not just vote with her instead? you were called out by rufflig (albeit poorly) and then you reacted by claiming it solidified your scumread on him (and then actually voting him.) it's like you were avoiding the wagon until it became easier to hop on.

meh. you're not my top scumread, but you're there and i'm worried.

[Mac]

aaaand possibly orcinus

Talk to me about this.

his play feels off this game. he doesn't feel town. gut perhaps.

meanwhile, you can talk to me about kaze?

Scum Kaze:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

He was scum with me, replaced in partway through day 1. This game was the basis for his accusation that I could be manipulating my meta results, because I handwaved the hell out of his meta to call him null-town.


His first scum game (also his first MS game)

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... er_sort=Go

I can go through a detailed analysis if I really need to, but I think the differences are pretty obvious

so he's more serious as scum? i really briefly skimmed that iso but that was the main thing i gathered.

[Mac]

[Mac]

^ When I played with Scum-Kaze he was very conscientious of addressing stuff like that and in general played a pretty clean game, always providing a rationale for voting with cases and such. Then again that was his first game on site, so I don't really know if I'd expect that now.

this is the problem i'm having with ffery's meta-dive. i do actually have a slight town-lean on kaze now for his nonchalance about the thread so far, but i feel his scum game probably isn't going to be similar to his original scum games.

[Mac]

No

Pedit: loool, Mac. I think we are on the same page for once

once in a blue moon it happens

i think that vote was terrible, and so is tammy's. tammy's needs more explanation, but looks like it's coming from a townhead. what do you think?

also a side note, my activity may drop slightly because the weather conditions at the moment are absolutely shocking, and the village is being threatened by flooding. hopefully not.

[Mac]

You want to kill me for not being super-active? Do it, but make sure you kill the scum taking the cop-out-excuse to lynch someone for it.

VOTE: Nacho

this implies to me you're not scumreading nacho, yet the vote says different.

[Mac]

@GiFSakura how about some reads

Oh. Come to see my scumometer, I misplaced MafiaSSK.

Kazekirimaru<Deacon Blues<orcinus_theoriginal<TheFuzzylogic99<Nachomamma8<Tammy<pitoli<Mac<MafiaSSK<ProHawk<Ms Marangal<The Rufflig

really?

[Mac]

im taking a step back from this game for a sec, because two of my top scumreads at one point are now town, or pretty much town at least. i'll see y'all in the morning.

i will say though is that nacho is so fucking town that i narrow my eyes at those suspecting him.

[Mac]

narrow my eyes metaphorically, not actually as though you're more mafia than misguided town.

[Mac]

Vote: pitoli

i want to see where this goes. i don't see alot of scumhunting happening, and i feel like alot of her comments are quite surface level and failing to probe any further. i'm really worried by the lack of scumreads she listed when asked, in fact.

[Mac]

mara what the fuck are you doing.

control yourself

[Mac]

Mac, tell me about the game.

i need to read the last few pages i think. i quite like my pitoli vote, will you come back?

or at least i think you were on it.

[Mac]

also i have no idea wtf happened with mara. is it a scum meltdown?

[Mac]

Anywho, I said I would do this so,

SCUM

Minami no Hana
TheFuzzylogic99

NULL
Deacon Blues
orcinus_theoriginal
pitoli
The Rufflig
ProHawk

TOWN

Ms Marangal
Kazekirimaru
Mac
Tammy
Nachomamma8
MafiaSSK

that's a whole lotta null reads. are you intending on sorting these at all? particularly interested in deacon being null & orci-null but kaze-town...

I have been lurking. Minami's is a more active lurking and thus is more harmful.

what is the difference between your active lurking and minami's apparent active lurking?

SSK looks terrible after page 24.

If you are truly apologetic, that's bad. You have to be feeling guilty of something. In this case, it's that you're lying. You know that I'm town and you know that you're voting me for reasons that aren't true. You're the scum.

and SO IT CONTINUES! this is terrible. it's totally out of the blue and pretty shit reason to discredit fuzzy's reasoning.

Easy.
As fery said last time, during that rxn test, scum would've looked back at OP.
Not remembering what was in the OP is psychologically unlikely to come from scum's mind.

yeah but it's 30 posts later and pretty easy to fake.

Town: {

Orci

,

Tammy

,

Fuzzy

, Mac, Kaze,

ProHawk

}
Null (L-R = T-S): {Pitoli, Rufflig, GifSakura, SSK, Mara}
Scum: {

Nacho

}

Nacho is my current conclusion based on the prohawk push but I'm annealing my take on it still. Wouldn't take to bank.

Orcinus/Kaze due to Kaze claim and Orci nod.


#UPDATE

Minami read is surprising to me, what's going on there? The gif head has been a hell of a lot more active and engaged than he ever was in touhou and providing a lot more good shit to boot.

here here. gif had me fooled in touhou (a little bit, i think i might've clocked it eventually) but here he seems totally different.

Minami no Hana is obviously skimming which I do not like.

in general or because you think they're scum?

VOTE: Fuzzy logic

no comment on my vote and no reason for this vote. my feelings for pitoli continue to deteriorate. very little mentioning of fuzzy in her iso other than calling him null a few posts before this. can we get more pitoli votes? i would've expected a reaction to my vote & reasoning too.

yeah I know....

still I am reading it as saying leave me alone and let me do my win con whatever it is.......

what a very weird post. still i dont think scum would be like this though.

Someone convince me Fuzzy is just a derptown, please. Because I seriously want to see him hanged and I don't know if that's just spite talking or not.

im leaning rather hard that way.

The hypocrisy of Rufflig is dripping hot. Hypocrisy-fake-fake-scum.

hypocrisy isnt a scumtell.

I don't think I wish to pursue a pitoli lynch at the moment.

i have cookies!

not sold on rufflig scum. would prefer pitoli and SSK over him atm, because i haven't really sorted him yet

[Mac]

Can you throw in a sold scumpitoli case with those cookes? I mean, she hasn't really been active, so I'm surprised you have her sorted out.

here's a brief summary:

- surface level comments & questions, which don't probe any further and which don't make her stand out from the crowd.

Spoiler: examples

No, I didn't like that test either, Kaze.

I'm not understanding the ProHawk votes

Vote him; you'll find out soon enough.

Still waiting to be enlightened. Were you expecting the wagon?

I kinda like Tammy but it's more of a gut thing

VOTE: Fuzzy logic

UNVOTE:

-very little scumreads when asked for reads. infact, her first vote in the whole game was for fuzzy which just feels easy. it's a different vite because no one was on that wagon if I recall correctly, but it's not really doing much, is it?

- lack of engagement with my vote, as in no attempt to refute it and just ignoring it. perhaps hoping I go away. after nacho voted her, she finally acknowledged it but it felt like she was waving me away with her hand and still hoping I'd go away (by saying she liked my push but not going into detail)

- there isn't alot of attempts to find scum in her iso.

[Mac]

I'm sorry mac, I'm still in that period where I don't want to lynch pitoli.

because you think she's town or because there are better targets?

I'm here orc!

[Mac]

yeah the townbloc looks good. orc are you absolutely sure, his play aside, that kaze can't be scum fakeclaiming?

SSK is bugging the fuck out of me. his lurking in imperishable night was different because it was prod dodges pretty much. here it feels like he's trying to make an effort but still trying to lurk enough to make it work as scum. hopefully that makes sense.

i want pitoli dead. i've made that clear.

do you think rufflig will flip scum or is it purely an information lynch? because i'm not planning on going along with an info lynch solely for mara's slot. I think myko will clear this up on his own hopefully, once he solidfies his reads.

I think our choices have to be between pitoli-SSK-Rufflig. that's my order for lynching, too. i'm not averse to lynching any, but I am averse to an info lynch.

[Mac]

strong townread on nacho.

the interactions weren't good. she didn't come off great to me from voting for nacho instead of asking. i felt like she was trying to look like doing something but it didn't really work. "omgus can get you places" was terrible reasoning, too.

[Mac]

how's your nacho read looking?

[Mac]

But Mac's 798 was pretty town.

you say it's pretty town, yet haven't responded to anything in it.

[Mac]

Vote: SSK

WILL ANYONE JOIN ME HERE

i might vote myko too. pitoli too!

not liking rufflig wagon based on the fact i don't want an info lynch and i'm stilllll not convinced

[Mac]

i will refuse to lynch nacho, i have a hardon for nacho-town right now.

pedit- ill take a look at those points orc.

[Mac]

i will refuse to lynch nacho, i have a hardon for nacho-town right now.

NO MAC

DON'T BE DECEIVED

YOU'RE SLEEPING IN HIS BED OF LIESSSSS

I don't think I am kaze! LISTEN TO ME

[Mac]

Vote: Myko

[Mac]

why the fuck are you still ignoring me?

[Mac]

i had a dreamlast nifht cabd shot me

WHAT IS LIFE

[Mac]

scum pls

[Mac]

Thinking about it he hasn't talked with me about anything game related, hasn't let me in on any reads or anything and now i'm here while he's on V/LA (and im supposed to be V/LA too but taking the chance that my boss is around).

Non rufflig thoughts:
orc/kaze are town because i doubt scum would've made a confirmable fakeclaim like that, specially the "mod confirming kaze as town if orc is lynched"
Mara's AtE looked town, so im not buying Kaze's meta case on myko
Mac gut town
fuzzylogic is in the "dunno" realm, my read on him has been jumping up and down all day, the scum slips thingy seems decent but i trust my gut read on Rufflig more in this case.
You were town, but i dont like your reasoning on your push on me when you have knowledge of how i act in hydra (which is usually rely a lot on my other head and bounce reads off them, the issue here is that GiF doesnt talk at all so I have to guess :<)
SSK is... idk how to read him at all.
ffery/bork seem way to aggresive for what I remember of ffery or bork (tho the one game i played with bork was a long time ago)
prohawk is another gut scum read.

PEd: JEEZ IM TYPING

What scum slips thingy?
What's wrong with my push on you? The thing that differs in your individual to hydra play is your inactivity, which is not something I'm attacking you for.

I must admit you're looking town again though =\

if you think this why are you still voting them?

this game is stallin and we need a lynch. myko, SSK or pitoli for me. can we agree on someone?

[Mac]

do people want me to explain once more why fuzzy is scum, now using the last post? aaaaaaaah

your vote is on him...

those three? eeeeeh, idk.

what issues do you have with pit/SSK?

seriously frustrated by this. I haven't made any good headway on scumcases and yet Fuzzy is the one I keep coming back to, the one whose posts most bother me, only as people have already said adnauseum - is he scum or just awkward? but either way i'm distracted and wasting a lot of time pivoting just by this one point.

i
d
k

so you have one scumread, and that's fuzzy? whom I would consider mislynch bait at the moment.

[Mac]

never mind about that first quote myko, I misread it.

[Mac]

Fuzzy: it's like you're speaking a different language where you don't know how to put together sentences that mean anything has more than a 50% chance of happening.

p-edit: lynchbait isn't always town!

mislynch bait is. how about you ignore fuzzy and actually focus elsewhere? focusing on fuzzy alone is not good enough I'm afraid.

Vote: pitoli

more sure of this than ever.

[Mac]

@ mac
that means I have a 1 in three chance of hitting scum

what are you referring to here?

[Mac]

but what did I say that prompted you to say that?

[Mac]

@ kaze
how sure are you about your scum read on Myko

Very. Not that it matters atm since nobody will listen. Except I guess you.

meow meow meow

im a cat

I listen!

I could agree with SSK at this point or maybe a Rufflig, but neither lynch gets my blood pumping. I want to get my blood pumping.

so what's going to get your blood pumping? I'm starting to see Minami town more because I like Sakura's willingness to try and work with you. does that come with the town-Sakura package? because in Ace Attorney, she didn't seem willing to work with alot of people (from memory) and she was scum.

@Prohawk: Are you still scum reading Nachomamma8? If so, would you mind explaining why you feel Nacho is scum?

@MafiaSSK: A couple things struck me as off that I'm hoping you could expound on. Minami went from scum to less likely scum before her most recent reads post. I don't see why your read on her lessened while she was not doing anything? The second is that your scum read on me increased in that same period. Why didn't you apply pressure to me or switch your vote?

My gut shifted a little on both accounts?
But if you want pressure shifted on to you. Here you go

Vote rufflig

this is terrible. you might have just moved to the top of my kill list.

in fact

Vote: SSK

Would you agree with what I said just above re Cabd and scum chat?

Completely agree, but what is concerning to me is the way Nacho phrased it like he knew that day-chat was a thing. And, I am not leaning town on GIF/Sakura. Still waiting for them to respond to my question.

I'm not going to say more than this, but nacho, whether he's assuming or he knows there is day-talk, does not make him scum.

Curious on what you think about Mafia vote on Ruff. Do you think it was forced???

I'm sticking my oar in here. he's disguising doing nothing as a pressure vote. he's scum.

[Mac]

@mod - Im voting SSK as of 1153

[Mac]

Nobody wants to vote Nacho with me? ):

I do not like the push on SSK. His vote on Rufflig was bad yes but I'm at a loss to why scum-SSK wouldn't "try harder" to feign a legitimate push.

why should I vote nacho?

[Mac]

so whose scum pushing the SSK wagon?

[Mac]

That lynch was bad and you should all feel bad.

VOTE: PITOLI

Cannot stress enough how much scum pitoli is. She has just came in here discrediting the wagon whilst she did

NOTHING

to stop it or even attempt to stop it. SCUM.

[Mac]

I don't need to own up to the fact my vote was shitty yesterday: that was evident the moment SSK flipped town. I don't see you picking up on the other 6 people who didn't claim their vote yesterday was bad?

[Mac]

You're still discrediting my vote and trying to put it down as something else when really it's just me voting scum, yanno?

[Mac]

I'l be back in a day or two after I've mourned the loss of SSK.

[Mac]

Isn't the townslip I mentioned long time ago is not enough for you?

That shit didn't fly then and it doesn't fly now.

I did not claim anything.
But I believe both Kaze and Minami right now.

Yeah this game is getting crowded.

I don't understand. You are an investigative type role, and you are believing that there is another investigative role? Surely your thought process should be different here?

Skipping about 15 pages here because I have work soon and I'm not feeling too great.

Just gonna confirm my role is effectively vanilla neighbour. And Urushi is my character name, correct.

I'm still pretty sure that all three of the neighborhood are town, although Mac might need some rereading before I can make the incredibly town comment.

Do you think Fuzzy could be scum?

Why do you think I'll need re-reading? This has worried me a little, I won't lie. This is what mastin did as scum in Anything Goes in order to push my mislynch through, after he'd townread me all game.

Vote: pitoli

Don't think she's a hider and I don't think her thought process follows a hider. I especially think had she "died" last night as a hider then we wouldn't have had a fucking clue where to go, and this is what the biggest issue I have is, and it's why I think she's fakeclaiming. There is no indication in her ISO she was hiding behind Nacho last night.

[Mac]

if you are a joat why the fuck didnt you cc Minami who is surely scum in your eyes????

[Mac]

have you ever played in a game where town has had two roles with multiple powers?

pedit what does the cowardly have to do with your role? I think you need to full claim

[Mac]

And Mac - as long as we're positing that there can only be ONE of any particular role in this theme game, why are there TWO vanilla neighbor claims?

now you're just being ridiculous because I'm not saying that at all and I'm not going to waste my time addressing this.

[Mac]

You're getting there!

If two people claimed cop in a game, would your first reaction honestly be "ooo they could both be town!"

[Mac]

YOU ARE CLAIMING A HIDING ROLE DURING NIGHT ONE, AND THEY HAVE CLAIMED COP NIGHT ONE. HOW ARE THEY ANY DIFFERENT

[Mac]

Mac, I read your hyrule game for the first time and had a minor heart attack, but am okay now.

Why? I'm pretty sure my play is nothing like Hyrule since I'm town as fuck here

[Mac]

YOU ARE CLAIMING A HIDING ROLE DURING NIGHT ONE, AND THEY HAVE CLAIMED COP NIGHT ONE. HOW ARE THEY ANY DIFFERENT

I would see that as a balance issue if it was a straight up Cop and Hider, that would be weird to see. But as a 1-shot investigation each? Maybe this is just my inexperience talking.

come on pitoli. we have a role which confirmed orci as town, which in turn confirmed Kaze as town and you think we have a further two roles which can confirm more people?

[Mac]

I think I'm coming round to fuzzy-scum, you know.

[Mac]

I think I'm coming round to fuzzy-scum, you know.

Claim pls

I've claimed. Urushi, Town-Aligned Neighbour

I want Nacho's thoughts on Fuzzy because I think his posting in the neighborhood was really, really bad last night.

[Mac]

Like I said in the neighbourhood, you totally ignored the giant elephant in the room wrt Minami & then you said you thought all three scum on the outside before conceding there "might" be scum in the neighborhood today. You're waffling away, and you really look like waffling scum to me right now.

Nacho and I talked about Minami. Whether the hammer was scum-motivated, or just total derp town. Right now, I don't have a fucking clue.

[Mac]

remind me how it would confirm two scum, and not end the game?

[Mac]

You're making no sense.

[Mac]

No, but I'm not lynching Minami immediately.

Ok Nacho, what exactly do you need to sort out?

For one: Fuzzy is bleeding bleeding bleeding town.
Mac is not bleeding bleeding bleeding town.

You are bleeding bleeding bleeding town.
Rufflig is not bleeding bleeding bleeding town.

Could it really be that simple?

well first thing is that this has been my most town game i've had in a while, the last day aside where I lost track of myself on here due to real life taking over a bit.

(cop claim from scum in particular).

explain this?

I think I would like to lynch Mac today.

if you could explain this, this would be good.

my lynchpool today is Ruff or Fuzzy. I think those are the last two scum, in fact. ProHawk I think has been pretty fucking town the entire game since he was wagoned early doors, and the only way I could see Nacho scum,since he's been cleared(?) which would be godfather I think - but then the miller claim makes no sense unless he's trying to through a red herring or something. Either way, Nacho likely town but needs to open his eyes.

Plus I don't see your trajectory on how your read on me when from "playing a stellar game as scum" to "scum full stop." You said it was in thread but I don't see it so some clearing up is needed.

Edit--
I really believe she would town read him

@ Pro
if you give me a good reason I go along with a Mac Vote

If you think there's 1 scum in our hood then why on earth do you need a reason to vote me?

But I think I see your point on Mac and will most likely vote him unless his next post is incredibly town.

Oh dear.

Alot of fuzzy's posting in thread and QT is what I think cautious-scum and not "town as fuck" as Nacho is portaying. alot of his posts of confidence in the scum end with "yeah I could be wrong though" and he gives himself alot of ways out of opinions he makes. I'd probably vote him as my top read today, but since we're probably in LyLo I'm going to hold it back for now until we have some more conversation.

[Mac]

do share more there, nacho. because you're gonna lose the game if you vote

[Mac]

towniest game I've had in a while is what I said - since Xenoblade. because I was in a townbloc and normally I never I am! don't you remember the good old days when no one was paranoid?

Fuzzy's scum because the towntells you claim he's dropping are bullshit, plus PoE that it's not me and not ProHawk, plus the fact every post he's made as we've got nearer the end has basically been "well, um, it could be X but I might be wrong it might be Y." I don't think get out clauses are town at this stage, stances need to be taken and shit needs to get done.

pedit: yeah that definitely wasn't scum wanting to put off their lynch! no way!

you've been saying scum has a godfather in the neighbourhood, so why didn't the cop claim stem from that? plus if it was anyone, it was more than likely fuzzy since, you know, I'm town.

[Mac]

Mac
what do you think of a Ruff lynch????

Not opposed to it, prefer you.

@ Nacho... wut?

[Mac]

man town was so fucking great late on I can't believe we won

[Mac]

props to Ruff for changing his mind from Nacho to Prohawk at the last second. I dunno how different the game would've been with fuzzy blowing his load but I think he played a pretty solid game to make it right through to the end.