Open 541 - Too Many Heads Mafia (Game Over)

[Squirrel Girl]

/chitter

[Squirrel Girl]

Vote: Athena's Fury

I like the comic book Thor viking speak, but I think Benmage is the only player allowed to wander around sans avatar without being voted in RVS over it.

[Squirrel Girl]

Unvote: Athena's Fury
Vote: Ansuz

Oh, well if there's a train I'll get on that, I like making noises too.

chugga-chugga-chugga

[Squirrel Girl]

Unvote: Ansuz
Vote: 165 Trolls

Apparently they have to be scum and it's antitown not to vote them. Since I want to vote scum and look pro-town, I'm pretty much forced to do this.

[Squirrel Girl]

I'll assume you meant "scumreads" >.<

No I think Squirrel/Tammy are scummy.

At least people don't think I am Tammy now.

Why didn't I feel natural, and why did you start a wagon only to abandon it the instant it got even moving?

[Squirrel Girl]

MOTHER

FUCKING

ODIN

you have always wanted to be just like thorella

admit it

I have an obsession with thorella, yeah. We grew up together, pretty much. But my bigger obsession is with you

- Des

New Avvie?

[Squirrel Girl]

I think Paranoia is town now. Most everything else is just joking, so no other reads.

[Squirrel Girl]

Well for one I wasn't expecting an 'everyone is a hydra game.'

I'm not a hydra. I'm also not Sakura.

[Squirrel Girl]

Well for one I wasn't expecting an 'everyone is a hydra game.'

I'm not a hydra.

I'm also not Sakura.

[Squirrel Girl]

Squirrel Girl- good point about the avatar, fixed. Very quick to jump on any and all trains, why?

Why not?

[Squirrel Girl]

The penalty to scum is that a day full of jokes and uncertain reads will go on longer? That'll keep them shaking in their booties!

I'm reading everything, I'm not getting much from it because I don't think anyone is getting serious yet.

Unvote: Paranoia Fueled Rampage
Vote: Bazinga

L-2

Whether or not people are serious with their votes on this is apparently a question. I'm as serious as anyone there I suspect.

[Squirrel Girl]

are you going to at least pretend to be town for 5 minutes and unvote me and give me a chance to reread and wall it up?

Why does someone need to unvote to give you a chance to read? It's not like we're standing around you pinning you with our votes and turning off your monitor...and if any of the other players *are* doing this then let me know and I'll call the police for you. But I don't think they are.

[Squirrel Girl]

@Rancid - In that case, you're never allowed to vote me.

[Squirrel Girl]

It's not like we're standing around you pinning you with our votes and turning off your monitor...and if any of the other players *are* doing this

Aaaargh, she be onto us, Nati.

But I don't think they are.

Lower the flag. False alarm.

I like how you say the last part and yet don't unvote me.

What do you think he was saying there?

[Squirrel Girl]

[Squirrel Girl]

What position is that? Being Sakura Hana?

334 makes me call Clubhouse town. I'd be okay lynching either Bazinga or Ansuz just to help out the noise in the thread. I still feel scum on Bazinga for the pleas for unvotes and then not justifying it when asked. Ansuz...it's more just that he feels so generally disagreeable and unhelpful. I think I may be okay lynching him just because his play is bugging me. I don't feel as town on Rancid as everyone else, but will at least agree I think he's townish. Can we get an L-1 on Bazinga or someone presenting a good reason why we shouldn't?

[Squirrel Girl]

Squirrel Girl, lynching me to cut down on the noise isn't going to help worth shit, you realize.
This is a 12 hydra game. As individuals, we usually break 100 posts on Day 1 in a Micro. I am one grain of sand in a beach of spammers; cut me down, and two more hydrae will step it up in my place.

That's why you use a torch. Duh

[Squirrel Girl]

if I had known that mara, etl, mhork and sakura were all in the same game (especially sakura)

What the fuckity-fuck do I need to do to stop having to hear this type of stuff?

[Squirrel Girl]

in addition to the whole "there is no reason to think that and they don't sound the same at all" deal.

That never stops them, they are usually like 'you're not doing what Sakura town would be doing, therefore you are scum'. And I'm like,

[Squirrel Girl]

Desp, if you see this it would help if you back me up on Squirrel pretty much admitting she was Sakura in Medical Mafia cos you made it to lylo there tia

Look, I didn't admit to being Sakura in that game at all, and I don't know what your obsession with insisting I am her is all about, and if you two have an issue that's not something that I should have to deal with just because you seem to think I play in some way similar to her. It's frustrating enough that I want to tell you my main just to help it sink into your head how wrong you are here, BUT STOP THIS! I am allowed to keep my main hidden, and won't you just please accept that I am a different player and not part of this weird feud you have?

Plus, if you are town, it is likely to screw up this game if you assess me using her meta and get bad reads. Just read me off our experience together, read me off my other games, I have enough now I'd like to think my meta more or less exists. Just stop it.

@Clubhouse - and don't make me smack you upside the head for buying into it - you were reading well in spotting differences, go with that!

To whoever is claiming that squirrel is sakura, you're fucking stupid. Sakura is currently serving a new games ban, it included all alts and hydrae; and llamafluff isn't dumb.

HA-FUCKIN'-HA!
Troll can be my bestest buddy of all time now, ALL TIME!


From what I've gleaned of their mutual meta, it is really starting to look like a valid Paranoid/Amsuz gladiate at this stage. I feel Paranoid is winning the debate except for the weirdness fo the 'slow start' thing which I've found people,a nd Nacho himself, mentioning across multiple games. So, actually I would vote Amsuz of the two, because I don't think a scum Paranoid would lie about that. Holy cow...15 pages. I agree with Clubhouse's point on Amuz.

Sweet acorn soup, people are still talking about my alt identity at this stage. Points to Paranoid just for wanting people to shut it. If I wanted people to guess I'd invite it, or try to offer clues, or jokes or something. There's a reason I say "I don't want people to know!" The only reason I've admitted to not being Sakura is simply because people were starting to meta me AS SAKURA!

I agree with the people saying Tammy's emotions look faked. I feel the reaction was underwhelming, and her later defense wherein she talked about a game she hadn't called herself obv. town in...well, she didn't do that here either. She didn't call herself obv. town and she didn't castigate herself for not working harder, she just dropped a few f-bombs and called it a day. I'd be happy to vote that, let's see where the wagon is by the time I get there.

The page count seems to go higher every time I finish reading a page...

Post 840 from Stuffed. Paranoid doesn't like it, and I'll agree the logic seems a little squirrely, but I think it comes from a town place, and forgetting about the lack of daychat and all also feels townish. I'd done the same till Paranoid brought it up again, so I think that really puts Stuffed into a town slot for me. 884 reminds me why I'm town reading Club and scum reading Amsuz. And done!

Unvote: Bazinga
Vote: Athena's Fury

That is L-1 I am pretty sure.

[Squirrel Girl]

Well I'm obviously super biased, but I'm taking issue with the casual insults directed at my slot and I want to know what the issue is here.

I don't think that's a conversation worth getting into because I see no pro-town end to it regardless of what alignment either of you are.

[Squirrel Girl]

also bert no longer has a body, he has moved inside my head. bert yesterday was saying in skype literally what I was typing it was weird.

So, Rancid is right and was able to notice that some things you were saying were not fully the truth, and he suspects you because of this, and in return you think he is scum for having good instincts and noticing something that certainly looked like a lie?

I don't get it.

Also, while we're at it, why do you think you read me well? Up until yesterday you thought I had claimed to be Sakura and were reading me with the idea I was a player who I wasn't, so how does that translate into you having an ability to read me? This feels fake.

[Squirrel Girl]

also bert no longer has a body, he has moved inside my head. bert yesterday was saying in skype literally what I was typing it was weird.

So, Rancid is right and was able to notice that some things you were saying were not fully the truth, and he suspects you because of this, and in return you think he is scum for having good instincts and noticing something that certainly looked like a lie?

I don't get it.

Also, while we're at it, why do you think you read me well? Up until yesterday you thought I had claimed to be Sakura and were reading me with the idea I was a player who I wasn't, so how does that translate into you having an ability to read me? This feels fake.

[Squirrel Girl]

Why not answer Squirrel Girl's question to ye, btw?

@Bazinga.

[Squirrel Girl]

Ansuz, why the Athena Fury unvote? You and 165 Trolls both seemed to be quite convinced of the meta tell; did something change?

Nacho has a weak heart and thinks that Tammy's "I broke down crying at work over this mislynch" thing was a towntell.

I disagree vehemently.

- Des

Why does Nacho win in that debate?

[Squirrel Girl]

cos once I get a town read on sakura2 (yes its not sakura but her twin)

[Squirrel Girl]

I was talking about Squirrel Girl. I dislike her recent posting.

Is it the questioning of Bazinga or the questioning of Amsuz, or both, that bugs you?

[Squirrel Girl]

I was talking about Squirrel Girl. I dislike her recent posting.

Is it the questioning of Bazinga or the questioning of Amsuz, or both, that bugs you?

So, do I need to like write in all caps or make a bunch of random jokes or something in order to have my questions noticed? I am in this game, right? People can see my posts, right?

[Squirrel Girl]

No, you're pretty invisible.

Okay, I'll just lurk coast for a few phases then.

[Squirrel Girl]

Yes, I am clearly flipping my shit. Better answer my question or the rampage will continue. Raaaawr!

Edit: So, you dislike my recent posts because I'm sheeping someone and feel fake? I don't think sheeping is a scumtell, and how do I feel fake in that post? You think I'm faking...which part? All of it?

[Squirrel Girl]

What are you yelling about?

[Squirrel Girl]

I don't dig on wearing metal brassieres. I think they'd chaff.

But okay.

Vote: Ansuz

[Squirrel Girl]

HEY WOMAN IVE BEEN ON ANSUZ FOR PAGES WHERE DO I FIT IN

[Squirrel Girl]

THE PIRATES WE ARE LYNCHING THE PIRATES. <-------- DON'T LOSE SIGHT OF THIS

What makes you so sure it's all of those pirates considering there was a period I was fairly aligned with the pirates besides failure to do the speak? Heck, I still think Rancid is town.

I'm not willing to make a push on Nacho, but I am willing to lynch Rancid

For having a tough noise to signal ratio? Looking at both heads other games...I'm not sure if this should be even considered odd. Do you find it odd, and if so why? And if not, why are they a scummy read for you?

(This is an attempt to get people to unvote our scum buddy)

Didn't faze me, sorry.

I understand your rage with Bazinga, I really do. But what value is there in making this weird emotional standoff play? Can you explain why you town read Amsuz?

[Squirrel Girl]

Oh, and I forgot, Purple's pretty colored list and nice things said about me makes me feel warm and fuzzy about his slot. I'll call it town. Also, on a slightly more serious note (though that other stuff did affect me) that he has a bunch of town reads but is unsure of his scum reads feels townish to me as well.

[Squirrel Girl]

Yer captain has every intention o' votin' fer the False Goddess todaaaay.

How come?

[Squirrel Girl]

You people are all wound too tight.

[Squirrel Girl]

I like both the PFR and Athena wagons.

I guess I'll wait for one to get to L-1 and then call that person town and quickhammer.

[Squirrel Girl]

First pirate to point out SC be obv-scum gets town points.

I still think he looks town.

[Squirrel Girl]

Why are people debating about who defended Nacho best? Wouldn't that actually be an easy thing for scum to do? I don't like Yggdra Union's "shock at game state" posts. Feels scummy. And it looks like we're going to dig battle lines on meta fields again. Joy.

[Squirrel Girl]

I will toss out that I cannot really comment on all the meta wagon nonesense, those are casses built around, basically, trying to sound the most honest when stating things that are all based around what the other person "knows" and as shown yesterday, I am surprised all of you think you know what the other person knows that much. You clearly do not.

I still like the Paranoid and Athena wagon ideas. I'll also toss Yggdra Union into that pool. I do not like the push on Generic Purple, as I think they look like town. I don't have a good read on the Disney Siamese Cats thing, wish I did, but they are deep in meta land.

[Squirrel Girl]

Is that even what Purple is calling you scum over? I thought it was about the vote move, not about claiming.

[Squirrel Girl]

Is anyone arguing that Paranoid did a remotely pro-town thing with his hammer yesterday?

Also, could you clarify what point you think Generic Purple is making that you find questionable. I am really on their side in this current debate, and I'm on their side to such a huge degree that it means either you are talking total nonsense or I am too silly to understand what point you're actually making.

[Squirrel Girl]

They think that my comments on wanting to drop our vote on Nacho to give him a chance to speak and prevent a derp hammer silencing him shows us as scum. It does not it shows my continual belief in giving a lynchee a chance to speak something I believe deeply in no matter what I think the lynchee is. Something that is important enough to me for me to put in my IC blurb.

Your IC blurb just supported a stance of 'hammer intent' though, so does it support the unvote thing?

I do sort of agree that most 20/20 hindsight and/or bemoaning of past failures tends to feel scummy to me, so I'm not sure why it's surprising to you that Generic Purple feels the same. Isn't that a pretty common tell, and if so, why is it odd that they are using it?

[Squirrel Girl]

I still think [Stuffed Crust] looks town.

Aaaaaaaaargh, I think ye be wrong, but I respect yer right to be wrong. Ye be a free pirate.

Tell me why ye think this and I'll help ye understand why yer wrong.

It seems backwards for me to have to prove the lack of scum actions. I suppose my answer is, sadly, 'gut'. Pretty much its his willing admissions of lack of reading paired with acting aggressive and jokey at the same time. For him to be scum I feel he'd have to be intentionally trying to play up an odd persona and to combine that with thinking it wouldn't get him in trouble. Meanwhile, it has got him in trouble and yet the playstyle hasn't shifted at all. Feels town.

[Squirrel Girl]

For him to be scum I feel he'd have to be intentionally trying to play up an odd persona and to combine that with thinking it wouldn't get him in trouble. Meanwhile, it has got him in trouble and yet the playstyle hasn't shifted at all. Feels town.

Ye say it's got him into trouble. Who be scum reading him outside of me? And since I've openly expressed the suspicion in no uncertain terms, have they posted once?

They've posted once today. And if ye think that post be a town post, then ye compass be broken.

He was catching heat about it yesterday as well.

[Squirrel Girl]

He was catching heat about it yesterday as well

When/where be this?

this lassie wants to dance.

And such artful dancing ye be doing - but ye be dancing around what actually be important. What happened to getting you and formerfish's thoughts on the game out? What be your reads?

Day 1. It happened. I can't think of an easy way to search everypne's iso's for mentions of Stuffed Crust but I don't think i's crazy for me to suggest that they were all commenting about how town he was, there was certainly an underlying 'he's scum and/or playing bad'. I even recall when I said that I thought he was townish that I felt I was going against the grain.

[Squirrel Girl]

*not* all commenting.

[Squirrel Girl]

Vote: Yggdra Union

[Squirrel Girl]

Day 1. It happened.

Nay, it happened not. I be distinctly remembering most having SC as a town read, and the only one I remember not having SC as a town read be one head of Yggdra (pie fella, I think), and that be a passing mention.

Then we agree to disagree about what people were saying about him.

You started this conversation with the intent of talking me around to your way of thinking. So far the conversation has been not fun, has had me being asked to present all the evidence, and has had your rebuttal in the form of 'you're wrong'. What the heck is this?

[Squirrel Girl]

There be no agreeing to disagree here. I be telling you the facts.

Ye are wrong

. If I have to go through ISOs to prove this, I will, but considering yer reasoning fer thinking he be town is based on others calling him scum and him not changing things up, this should be a point of interest for ye if it did not actually happen.

Please do provide the evidence you are using. It is of interest to me, but, as I said, you started the conversation, you have seen my town read reasoning. I think you *are* supposed to show it is wrong in order o prove you are correct. Or you could even present a case for them being scum, which is also something you haven't done.

[Squirrel Girl]

although given how the day was going down I kind of get the 'let's lynch one of {bazinga, Ansuz} just to make it stop' thing.

I'll be honest, that was not my vote reasoning. I was just sheeping to sheep and see reactions. So what you're saying here;

SG wagoning to wagon isn't good

That is exactly what i was doing, and I actually think it is good to have been done.

[Squirrel Girl]

Ye be wrong here, and yer reasons for the town read be incorrect.

Okay. So that knocks him down to null at worst then. So...?

[Squirrel Girl]

None of my reads have changed except that I agree with Paranoid that Stuffed's last vote/post was quite bad, and by bad I mean scummy.

@Stuffed - how does Athena look scummy to you at this stage?

[Squirrel Girl]

I suppose there is some dissonance in Paranoid thinking that too considering how he's going after Tammy...but...aw, I'm just too lazy to want to analyze that, I'll admit. Whatever, we have people hammering town reads in this game, I'm starting to think I should just start posting drama and voting whoever I thinks doesn't consider me a perfect princess of perfection.

[Squirrel Girl]

Squirrel girl I think is scum now, the posting feels like someone trying to play innocent and naive but the revelation from Athena's fury suggests they are coasting on a lie.

What revelation and what lie? Her last comment on my was nullish to town that I recall, and I don't recollect any shocking revelations about my play either.

The Athena/Broderick back and forth is promising to me.
So I want to sit on one end of it.
So I'll choose the unpopular one.
E-z-p-z

-V

And...that encapsulates your scum read on Athena? You don't think the slot looks scummy or anything, just 'easy'?

[Squirrel Girl]

I like Stuffed's claim. Let's lynch Mastin.

[Squirrel Girl]

I will admit I expected more excitement over 12 hours.

[Squirrel Girl]

I would say the apathy is town's fault and that scum exploited it was good play on their point. I'll agree that the modkills were very pro-scum, and functionally took away an entire day/night phase cycle from the game. That was a brutal blow to town that had nothing to do with its play nor scum's play. Basically whichever head of PFR hammered Nacho I never wish to play with again until they figure out how what they did was a poor move.

[Squirrel Girl]

#sorrynotsorry

[Squirrel Girl]

Oh I'll play with you again. I just need to learn to keep things in my pants and stuff

Hey-o!