Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[pidgey]

Hey broskies!

So im town this time around. :B

Can someone make me aware of all the claims that have happened and Important night actions being divulged around?

I remember skimming the game and reading about 2 neighborhoods and theorizing about which has scum/which hasnt. Also i remember seeing the SK flip lol get owned.

[pidgey]

Skull - I know there are 2 QTs right?

And the theory is that obviously not everyone in them was town alligned?

I think i remember skimming this game and seeing that the SK was in the 3 man QT, i am obviously in the 5 man QT.

I'd like to know claims and stuff to make up my mind regarding this, but QTs scummy % vary from mod to game to taste, so who da fucks knows is my answer at the moment.

[pidgey]

STFU NOOBS!

[pidgey]

O cool mastin is in this game!

[pidgey]

Hey can someone providenany claim that has happened as for when i skim the thread? Pls

[pidgey]

I actually thought about it and I dont mind lynching from my 5 member QT.

I am town! I swear Sonic. Is there a case against my slot or what?

MS looks different from the other games i remember playing with him but he feels townier this time? Dunno

[pidgey]

sangres- will check on that for sure in not long.

[pidgey]

Mostly because I just find it possible that a mod would intentionally but a "mole" in the neighborhood, strictly speaking from that POV.

[pidgey]

I mean if my previous slot was shit and scummy I wouldnt weep at my lynch, even if it would suck, since looking at the lynches we seem to be standing in a great point of the game.

However yeah I do wanna read some stuff from the game. I keep asking for CLAIMS (if any) so i have some hindsight but everyone is gay and not providing.

[pidgey]

Goomer or something

[pidgey]

I keep asking for CLAIMS (if any) so i have some hindsight but everyone is gay and not providing.

I hate you.

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I loled

[pidgey]

oh I thought the SK had flipped in the other Neighborhood for some reason lol i suck at reading

[pidgey]

You were really blah in the game we played, dont even which game to be honest. Maybe Chrono Trigger? or something else.

Just remember you being apathetic and super easy to lynch lol (i was scum that one)

[pidgey]

Wait no

It was mainstream mafia

[pidgey]

MS the important question is though

Are you town or scum, and reasons

[pidgey]

3 days away? Fuck.

[pidgey]

Im gonna read up on stuff tomorrow at latest, I really havent had the time.

[pidgey]

vote: Metal Sonic

Venmar looks town for now and I like this style.

More of a placeholder. Sonic why the hell are you sheeping skull?

[pidgey]

lolin

[pidgey]

lol


how am I scum again MS?

Lynch this scumbo!!

[pidgey]

Who I would nver vote for at this gamr

Skull
Icerint
Sangres

Who might be town
Pirate mollie

Thats how im fealing atm

I need a better idea of the rest

[pidgey]

How is action dan again?

[pidgey]

With JK dead i dont see a massclaim fucking us at this point in time

Im up for massclaim

[pidgey]

sangres i get were you are coming from, I have quite indeed being ass this fucking game lol.

I just havent had time to do the scrutiny i would like to with all the flipped scums.

Anyway, um, you seem town so it would be cool if you didnt lynch my ass.

I dont really like mastin's reasoning against venmar, but I do like what skull is saying about that slot.

Can someone explain to me what i think xmuffin said regarding Action Dan? Something about 2 people targetting Metal Sonic n1, therefore Action dan probably being town. Or whatever.

[pidgey]

Who I would nver vote for at this gamr

Skull
Icerint
Action Dan
Sangres

Who might be town
Pirate mollie

Updated for now

[pidgey]

chiming in, will post at night, had a super bsy weekend -_-

[pidgey]

Voting for me is not a good vote

I'm kinda leaning right now towards a vote on either muffin or Venmar.
Skull i liked your case because it actually makes sense. Mastin's case is just mastin being mastin. I think you brought good points regarding venmar so yah.

My big concern while thinking of this game is that if there's for some reason 2 remaining scum then we are in for a shit surprise later on. I dont think thats likely to happen so ill operate as if there was one remaining.

Today we have a labor day in Mexico so im free to read the game, which is what ill try to do especially regarding isoing the flipped scum

woohoo

[pidgey]

Icerint goddamn it

[pidgey]

Like wtf would make it "more ok" to vote me for after posting that

fucking shit like that id say as any allignment anyway lol

[pidgey]

Icerint- ┐（ ´ー｀）┌ cool case

Muffin- Gut, mostly. Stuff like http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 1#p5744241 makes me lean that way at the moment.

Im surprised i have no read on mastin. Maybe I should

[pidgey]

I dunno Muffin you might have a point in the options thing, but it reads to me as real frustration at a point where it wasnt really mollie wouldnt really gain anything of value by showing it.

[pidgey]

I dunno Muffin you might have a point in the options thing, but it reads to me as real frustration at a point where mollie wouldnt really gain anything of value by showing it.

*FIXED

[pidgey]

Why are you voting for me if you think she's scum then?

[pidgey]

haha fine i guess

[pidgey]

Anyway i know people think i havent put "work" and are using that as reasoning for voting me (i think its extremly lazy reason to vote for me btw) but hey i guess thats how you roll.

[pidgey]

Sangres kinda did, ice

[pidgey]

Okay ive gone through a little post history, and I hate to admit it but muffin does look town, even if he is voting for me for fuckign retarded reasoning.

That leaves mastin and Venmar at the moment.

Mastin has a point that maybe sharing the same scum targets should make me thing of her as town, but then again that doesnt really mean much to me if he could easily be faking them? Also, i dont really see a lot of original content from her at times. Though she is disconnected from the game, not meaning now, but like thats a general feeling that reading her gave me.

Venmar would be mostly scum by POE if i keep my townreads on skull, mollie, sangres, and muffin. Out of those, im pretty sure about sangres being town, the other 3 could still surprise me at some point, but i probably wouldnt take out muffin or skull at this point, which would only leave mollie.

That's where I stand at the moment.

[pidgey]

Ugh ok

I dont still think venmar is THAT scummy and mollie is still maybe scum just from POE. Other than that im super lost. I really reallly doubt its sangres and im still reading skull town, id have a major surprise if it was one of the last 2.

I honestly dont know if its better that i try to lynch venmar at this point over me, because if venmar is not scum, then it will probably make everyone turbo me tomorrow and since i know my allignment, from my POV thats like losing 2 days in a row lol. Still, its a better option than hanging around with people saying im scummy and then dying in fucking lylo of all places.

This is what im gonna do, we still have some days for deadline.

Lemme put a bigger post with my thoughts then you can lynch me, i really want to at least put everything before im either death or i vote for (more than likely) venmar. This will be done no longer than tonight, if im not ready for that tonight you can vote me or whatever.

[pidgey]

Ok reading back and there was this wagon forming on my slot that I dounf interesting in day 1

[10] Brian Skies (Kazekirimaru, pieguyn, Flandre Scarlet, Skullduggery, Kagami, Varsoon, zMuffinMan, Metal Sonic, Brian Skies, orcinus_theoriginal)

I dunno why but skull jumpin in right after flandre doesnt really stir me up but WHY IS THERE NO MORE SCUM IN THIS WAGON FROM THE FLIPPED!??! Because uhhh maybe one of their buds was already on it, so this kinda makes me really wary of muffinman again. Muffin jumps back with venmar up just because of this really. This also makes me feel ok about masting since he wasnt feeling my wagon, but dunno, i still dont love mastin this game lol (also glad about your grandma!)

I dont like this early comment about mastin though

SSK is officially town. This is his townplay. Aside from that, when he and I synch up our reads, it's also an excellent sign that he's town, too. (Even though I can nearly-guarantee we'll diverge later.)

It seems like a setup kinda but then cephir going in and saying :goodposting: to that quote makes me thing its impossible for 3 scum to be loving each other.

Ugh overall im not really getting much scumvibes from reading cephir's iso alone.

If anything, it kinda reafirms a bit my town read on mastin and skull.

And makes me a little more wary of venmar and Nervous of muffin.

Will keep reading.

[pidgey]

FUckin cephir has a lot to say DAMN

Im not liking muffin the most after that read lol

[pidgey]

lol no i mean im reading cephir but i was just pointing out some of the interesting stuff i dont feel like fucking quoting day 1 but skull seriously would be a mega surprise as scum.

Muffin or you makes more sense from cephir's iso

[pidgey]

i do! but i dont want to feel the thread with d1 shit

but his reads on both you and venmar seem weird, dunno, too safe

Venmar- I was reading cephir then i looked in his iso he quoted brian's wagon so yeah whats so Hat about that

[pidgey]

Will have the rest of my read up rolling out by tomorrow ive been doing some stuff :v

[pidgey]

But by that last point, it could be me or mollie too.

Will post more substance tonight, finally have some time

[pidgey]

Ugh

Im still very unsure about my not strong town reads. I still think sangres is untouchable, skull is still pretty town, and action dan and kaze's slot are still town.

Mastin also looks town.

Mollie is townish but after going through cephir's iso mollie wasnt as strong as my other reads. I also doubt my reads on muffin after the reread but his play is really townish so im inclined to take it away, and venmar is kinda weird.

I'd at this point prefer venmar more than anyway (sry if you are town since this is mostly POE) but mollie isnt that bad either.

I'll hold my vote for now cause i wanna skim some more stuff.

[pidgey]

This issue seems not important honestly.

I'd probably lynch either venmar or mollie

[pidgey]

You are right. Sry

VOTE: pirate mollie

Would change to venmar

[pidgey]

Actually

UNVOTE

VOTE: Venmar

Would change to mollie but mollie looks too much like a misslynch

Sry if wrong ;_;

[pidgey]

Mollie you need to be voting

I could switch to avoid last hours stupidness

[pidgey]

Hi

12 hours to deadline

We gotta have a consensus here

[pidgey]

Oh cool

Qs i said im up for lynchin the hood so im up for lyncinh mollie the scumbo more than likely, though i want to go over some stuff.

[pidgey]

Gonna post today in the afternoon

[pidgey]

I know i said i was gonna post yersterday but, real life.

Anyway, ill answer that in a bit, skull

[pidgey]

Gah.

After checkng cephir's iso yet again i find myself greatly divided in mollie. I again think that slot is town, i dunno, the cephir call outs seem weird as fuck in there.

Also, its kinda weird how cephir had mastin as the biggest scum read too, dunno what to feel about that.

I think we are all autopiloting this game too hard. Other than ice being jailkept and action dan being followed no one really has an alibi besides like.... words.

Id like to propose a stupid exercise.
"Everyone tell me why you'd debate yourself as town, contentwise"

[pidgey]

yah but like, we are scuking at the moment.

[pidgey]

Am i missing smething or isnt muffina the mason partner of sangres

[pidgey]

AHEM

Muffin, are you the mason partner of sangres? Its just better to confirm that and get it out of the way.

[pidgey]

Prod dodging, planning to spent serious time with this game in the weekend.

[pidgey]

I keep going through the game but i just dont really have any solid reads from anyone as scum lol sorry that im doing "empty" promises but as much as i glance scum isos i dont really make much of anything.

I seem to find a great town alibi for everyone.

Like lately i thought it might be mastin but then i find in cephir's iso that it was his biggest "scum read" so that would be some major bussing so im like UGH

I still think muffin, mollie, and skull are town. Icerint has the jailkeeper alibi, and action dan was tracked or something, so yeah, everyone seems town.

Im honestly surprised im not getting more pressure since im like the only one who has no town alibi and im playing really shitty lol

By this point im leaning mastin honestly, what are opinions on mastin?

[pidgey]

Im not terribly opposed to a mollie lynch though

not skull lynch though

[pidgey]

Ok so im isoing the mastin's iso and its the pain that I thought it would be

Im still going through D1 and most of the scum reads im getting out of it are weak reads. She says on 2 possible scum teams mates "scummish" at one point and another one "town".

The gets into a discussion with super scumbo bitch cephir, which reads to be very well thought of if it was a bus, and this is the main point im feeling against mastin scum. Do i think mastin can't pull if off? Of course not, she is capable of it. But ugh, would the scum team have the guts with flandre being lynched d1? I dunno.

But then, i get a jewel like mastin and MafiaSSK's interaction:

Hey Mastin and I's reads are syncing! This is a good sign!

Which mastin said exactly the same to me at the point i did my first post regarding reads. Dunno, just rang all kind of bad bells to me.

Still reading the iso, and i dont feel as bad as when I started reading it. All the interactions with the flipped scum look spontaneous and legit really, and very pressurish.

Plus, there are instances from when i've read the first part of the game where i see mollie doing some posts that strike we wrong, as if trying to seed doubts regarding other players without mollie herself putting it all out there.

Ugh i dunno, i hate myself. Still reading.

[pidgey]

Also im kinda starting to think that the possibility of a 2 man scum team is real and that we shouldnt just let that slide just yet, neither give people a free pass.

[pidgey]

DAY 1 LYNCH
[11] Flandre Scarlet (sangres, Cephrir, Angry Frat Bros, ActionDan, Aegor, Skullduggery, orcinus_theoriginal, pieguyn, Varsoon, Gooner, macmollie)
[3] Kagami (Kazekirimaru, Venmar, Flandre Scarlet)
[2] Cephrir (Kagami, mastin2)
[2] zMuffinMan (Metal Sonic, MafiaSSK)
[1] Cabd (zMuffinMan)
[1] Not Voting (Cabd)

DAY 2 LYNCH
[10] Kagami (Angry Frat Bros, Venmar, mastin2, Metal Sonic, Cephrir, Kazekirimaru, macmollie, pieguyn, Aegor, ActionDan)
[1] Kazekirimaru (Kagami)
[1] Skullduggery (sangres)
[6] Not Voting (Gooner, Cabd, MafiaSSK, orcinus_theoriginal, Skullduggery, zMuffinMan)

DAY 3 LYNCH
[8] MafiaSSK (ActionDan, Gooner, Cephrir, Aegor, sangres, zMuffinMan, Kazekirimaru, Skullduggery)
[3] Metal Sonic (mastin2, Venmar, Angry Frat BROs)
[1] mastin2 (macmollie)
[3] Not Voting (MafiaSSK, Metal Sonic, orcinus_theoriginal)

DAY 4 LYNCH
[7] Aegor (Angry Frat Bros, pirate mollie, mastin2, Metal Sonic, Skullduggery, Aegor, Kazekirimaru)
[3] Skullduggery (sangres, ActionDan, zMuffinMan)
[1] pirate mollie (Gooner)
[2] Not Voting (orcinus_theoriginal, Venmar)

DAY 5 LYNCH
[6] Metal Sonic (Venmar, Kazekirimaru, pidgey, ActionDan, Skullduggery, mastin2)
[2] pidgey (sangres, zMuffinMan)
[2] Venmar (Metal Sonic, orcinus_theoriginal)
[1] zMuffinMan (pirate mollie)

DAY 6 LYNCH
[5] Venmar (mastin2, pidgey, Skullduggery, sangres, Iecerint)
[1] pirate mollie (ActionDan)
[1] Skullduggery (Venmar)
[2] Not Voting (pirate mollie, zMuffinMan)

I probably do not like mcmollie and skullduggery the least regarding lynches that have happened.

[pidgey]

I'll come back to this game later my head hurts + work

[pidgey]

The scum team feels weak in a 20 player game with 4 members.

[pidgey]

(And an sk around)

[pidgey]

Oh nice



Im happy my reads on town were correctish

Even if i played really crappy

Also yay for adding to my town meta "not shouting like a fucking retard"

[pidgey]

Sangres, why were you so hung up on me by the way?