Xenosaga Mafia (Game Over)

[pirate mollie]

muffina is town!

[pirate mollie]

jesus fucking christ what is your hard on about pie

[pirate mollie]

I say we lynch within the neighborhoods it will be funny

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fuck it

VOTE: flander or whatever their name is

he has plenty of time to claim and he hasn't.

I am not willing for the day to be teased out cos what I have learned from that is all that does is increase apathy especially in larges. if he is town then I will deal with the blowback but with him not coming back to the thread and what has been said I think he is scum.

also ap you ignored me why

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: frat bros

[pirate mollie]

like venny just did?

I can't tell if the paranoia is faked or not cos I feel like he is stating the obvious.

@snagers

from my experience editing a post in any qt is a modkillable offense unless it is the dead qt and then it is highly frowned upon. are you thinking that it was like sr17 who posted a kill order in the wrong qt?

if you want to go down that avenue okay who was around at that time? cos mebbe it should be talked about

[pirate mollie]

also mac has bailed cos of IRL (loser) so I am posting from this account from now on

[pirate mollie]

I am.

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no

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was that a hammer

if not UNVOTE: mastina

[pirate mollie]

[8]

MafiaSSK

(ActionDan, Gooner,

Cephrir

, Aegor, sangres, zMuffinMan, Kazekirimaru, Skullduggery)
[3] Metal Sonic (mastin2, Venmar, Angry Frat BROs)
[1] mastin2 (macmollie)

[3] Not Voting (

MafiaSSK

, Metal Sonic, orcinus_theoriginal)

If we started the game with 4 scum then we only have one left to find which suggests mollie over Skull simply because Skull went for MafiaSSK and mollie didn't. I'm thinking more likely one on and two off than the other way around simply because scum wouldn't want to have lost half their team in three days.

Yep, overall I'm thinking VOTE: macmollie for the lynch today. If macmollie's town then we lynch Skull tomorrow.

If 5 scum Muffin/mac holds up from my Day 2 analysis while Skull/Kaze doesn't assuming another 2-2 split. I doubt scum put three on the wagon on their teammate so I'm thinking 2-2 is more likely and 3 in the smaller pool off the wagon also seems unlikely.

Yep macmollie seems like a good vote today.

you are not going to get me lynched so you might as well give it up

sangres srsly why is this slot town

[pirate mollie]

then lets lynch gooner! which is funny cos I was talking about him in the qt

VOTE: gooner

danny I am not sure how i feel about you

[pirate mollie]

Dan, are those all your reads you've had? Your most recent ones?

those are indeed all the scum reads I've ever had.

besides the people who are town

why are they so static

[pirate mollie]

nacho you are going to have to work hard to sell me on skull I have had her as town even above you guyz

[pirate mollie]

Not Nacho, but for me it's mostly NKA.

SSK tracked us on N1, so therefore we weren't the scum NK target. That means that improbable as it sounds Varsoon was the NK target.

And that points to Skull.

how is ssssssskkkkkkk tracking you mean that you weren't the nk target? were you the 1 who posted that song if so we reaching a new landmark in our relationship

[pirate mollie]

gooner i made that post specifically for you don't ignore

I'm not sheeping your read of mollie unless you can prevent a case why he's not scum which doesn't involve meta/Nacho magic.

I find it ironic that you are dismissing a case of meta while purporting a scum cased on your customization of poe which involves no input from external sources

[pirate mollie]

I think scum are very ignorant of the fery/mollie herstory it isn't just nacho's "magic"

[pirate mollie]

Mollie is a player I should be townreading. I really should be townreading her. But...I'm not. I don't know why I'm not. I just...kinda...don't feel anything with her. On the plus side, that also means I'm not feeling anything scum from her, either. But basically...she's a null. She shouldn't be a null. She really, REALLY shouldn't be a null, but. She is. And I can't shake that. I can't fake a read one way or the other on her. I can't force myself to make up my mind. I just...can't.

you really shouldn't be reading me as null I have reached out to you like 9 billion times and you are doing the exact same thing you did in chain of command, you are avoiding getting intimate with me like the fucking plague. I am fairly CERTAIN you are not grpscum cos you wouldn't retardedly defend a scummate like you did ssk but there is something off about you mastina!

[pirate mollie]

Take a look at mollie's voting record. Last vote on FS. Earlier vote on Kagami. No vote on MafiaSSK.

Now consider the interaction between mollie and the known scum in her ISO. And mollie's general contribution to this game. Someone please explain the town mindset here.


My Kaze on case is long and well-established.

yours and gooner's push is pretty terrible and based on some dumb retarded idea you have about poe

FUCK YOUR POE YOU ARE WRONG VERY WRONG AND EVEN MORE WRONG THAN THAT

AND, I told you why my participation is spotty AND YET YOU ARE ACTING AS IF I DIDN'T SAY A THING. I have a town mindset cos gee I dunno I am town how about you explain the scum mindset? I bet you can't cos you are reaching for the moon.

VOTE: aegor

^ LYNCH THIS

[pirate mollie]

If we want to lynch with a neighborhood, why would we pick the one with more players? Unless there are independently strong scumreads within it, which does not appear to be the case.

Well there is likely 1 mafia and 1 SK left, so you tell me where you think those are divided up among the 3:5:5 still alive.

I think there is one maf in my neighborhood and I think it is mollie. I have not actually played with an SK before so that will be more difficult until I do some more research on theory and other games with competent SKs.

^scum

[pirate mollie]

You can trust us on that read and get voting Skull.

I do want to trust you, though. Soyeah, there's that, too.

SSK tracked us on N1, so therefore we weren't the scum NK target. That means that improbable as it sounds Varsoon was the NK target.

And that points to Skull.

Not that I disagree with Skull being scum, but you're ignoring the possibility of scum killing pie and the serial killer taking out Varsoon.

(Also, AP, pronoun trouble. She. SHE. Not he. Habits die hard, I know.)

I think the scum in our neighborhood are either Skull or Aegor.

I guess I do, and I also lean towards Skull.

her interactions with the Flandre wagon AND MafiaSSK in general would be going for broke if she IS scum.

(AP, you, uh...kinda should know better than this. Yes, I DO go for broke as scum. I'm not groupscum because of the Cephrir read, but if Cephrir had been town, you darn-well know I would do this as scum for Flandre and SSK.)

Is matin claiming scum? I cant even tell anymore.

Quite frankly, it'd take a cop innocent on me for me

not

to be scum. >_<

No joke. So dont even worry about this.

Alright.


At this point, I guess that my top candidates for scum would be Skull or Aegor,
And that my top candidates for serial killer would be (approximately most-least) Kaze, (the other of the two above), Metal Sonic, or Venmar.

But I don't know.

you have 5 hours to start interacting with me

[pirate mollie]

Now consider the interaction between mollie and the known scum in her ISO. And mollie's general contribution to this game. Someone please explain the town mindset here.

IDK, I think mollie's poor voting record most likely comes from town who doesn't know what its doing than scum intentionally avoiding bussing.

I find it funny that you are trying to point to a lack of town motivation here (when its just derp-motivated) instead of arguing that is just likely scum-motivated.

I AM NOT FUCKING DERP.

[pirate mollie]

you are doing the exact same thing you did in chain of command, you are avoiding getting intimate with me like the fucking plague.

Uh, I got plenty-intimate with you in chain of command? My whole interaction with you on D1 was meant to 'bridge' the gap between us.

Is it really just skull/aegor? Aegor maf, skull sk?

Could very well be.

VOTE: Aegor.

you most certainly did NOT get intimate with me in chain, you avoided the crap out of me and when you did respond the embrace was chilly same as here

[pirate mollie]

you have 5 hours to start interacting with me

Just took action, and it's inter. Happy?

somewhat. I just noticed kaze asking every1 if they had a night action that failed in skull's post that post reeked and makes me not like kaze

I STILL say muffina's incessant trolling is town the only thing that gives me pause is how he is playing up to sangres who are just gobbling it up. I am not entirely free of suspecting that danny and sangres are actually an sk faction or something I asked them about it in our neighborhood I need to go back and look at what they said but I think it was nacho who was reading danny as town but I am not sure how much I trust that danny is really really good at playing scum he isn't afraid to get cosy

[pirate mollie]

Ilu mollie.

But gooner is a townie for his post today. Or at least not mafia. Sk plausible.

Actually Skull SK makes little sense unless ninja. Ssk would have outed her on d3 for sure.

I LOVE YOU TOO AP AND I MISS YOU!!!

[pirate mollie]

I STILL say muffina's incessant trolling is town the only thing that gives me pause is how he is playing up to sangres who are just gobbling it up. I am not entirely free of suspecting that danny and sangres are actually an sk faction or something I asked them about it in our neighborhood I need to go back and look at what they said but I think it was nacho who was reading danny as town but I am not sure how much I trust that danny is really really good at playing scum he isn't afraid to get cosy

Muffin's probably town, yes. Sangres-Dan being an SK pair still leaves the mystery of the N1/N2 kill dilemma, though.

there was a missing nk last night too why isn't anybody talking about that

[pirate mollie]

Townblock?: Sangres, Dan, Mollie
Probably not willing to touch today: mastin2, Metal Sonic, Venmar, orcinus, zMuffin* (is Skulls pressure here sudden; missing mafia kill last night relevant?)

The rest: Skull, Aegor, Gooner, Kaze* (need to review him again, I keep waffling, slight townlean?)

why aren't you willing to touch orci?

kaze had 1 golden moment when he was thinking about things after kagami flipped town it looked like he was trying to do a hard reset but I can't get over that comment.

[pirate mollie]

ap how does skull flipping grpscum make muffina an sk? you are going to have to walk me through that process

[pirate mollie]

I don't get why every1 has gooner as town. like I really don't.

I am looking at his iso and it is shit like this:

macmollie- I disliked this slot early on simply

because it didn't seem like the way mollie normally played

. It still doesn't to be honest with you so this slot concerns me.

that fucking crawl all over me cos I am pretty sure gooner and I have not played together before so how would know what I do or do not do? I could see cephrir going over a player list and putting me as a possible easy person to tunnel but hard to lynch so as not to be incriminating with my flip. some1 told him something and since we do not run with the same crowd I srsly doubt this came from outside communication.

[pirate mollie]

I have chatted with brian outside of games and he is no dummy. he self-deprecates a lot in games but he is actually really good I am just wondering why he would replace out given the playerlist unless it was site-wide.

but gooner. his push on me and for the original reasons he gave which have no basis in reality unless gooner is a seekrit alt of some1 and even then he is wrong about me but I am pretty sure I would have spotted who he was

[pirate mollie]

^ Do you think Gooner is mafia or SK?

His attempts at scumhunting don't feel overly forced to me.

grpscum didn't I kind of imply that. my thing is that I think some1 is feeding him info about me (or was) and that is why he is trying to get me lynched cos he was very gung ho about this in the neighborhood

[pirate mollie]

Starting in the post below, I drove a srs-wagon on town-Brian and got him lynched in the Ace Attorney mini game. Part of the reason I was convinced I was right was because there was no townflail happening.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p5491707

It wasn't an rvs wagon, so it's not a complete parallel, but plenty close enough that I was happy to call him town for day 1.

does brian have any completed scum games?

[pirate mollie]

Oh wait he was town there, derp. I thoughtI recalled seeing him scum somewhere.

well ok he was definitely scum here: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=32268

[pirate mollie]

I'm going to be

V/LA

tomorrow and the day after (Saturday), i'll be dropping by but i'll only have phone access once in a while at most.

the night is still young you can get involved now

[pirate mollie]

metal I <3 your aegor vote!

[pirate mollie]

I will cry into my cheerios

[pirate mollie]

aegor so what is your case on me?

[pirate mollie]

lkMacmollie is my best scumread from within the neighbourhood. Sangres is almost confirmed town. Aegor seems well engaged and is posting and arguing a lot today which I like. You're doing the same.

On the other hand mollie has been lurky, has a poor voting record and is sitting back again today and letting other people do her defending for her. She's being given a free pass by a lot of people for no reason and I dislike it, it makes me think she's scum.

that is an outright lie I have been very active this day round. again same thing I said to aegor, I explained this shit in the qt WHICH YOU NEVER FUCKING GOT BACK TO!!!

also you are gonna have to explain about my voting record since other than ssk I voted the same people you did!!!\o/!!!

oh and before you continue you might want to acquaint yourself with how I feel about bussing!:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1700

it is a well known fact that I don't bus on this site and I certainly wouldn't do it so retardedly on d1

you also might want to ask sangres if any of those look like my nk choices I am just going to psychically intuit that the answer will be no.

NOT TO MENTION that it is another well known fact that ssk does

NOT

like me if I was on a scumteam with him he would have replaced out immediately or he would have bussed me no fucking way would he be okay if we were on the same team. my way of dealing with him is to just ignore him and his snark and do my thing and let other people sort him. actually this may be the first game where he DIDN'T get snarky with me I suppose that should have been a red flag but truth is I am so used to ignoring him it didn't even register

and where have I not done my own defending and let other people do it for me? YOU HAVE NO CASE WTF IS THERE TO DEFEND AGAINST

[pirate mollie]

I don't get why every1 has gooner as town. like I really don't.

I am looking at his iso and it is shit like this:

macmollie- I disliked this slot early on simply

because it didn't seem like the way mollie normally played

. It still doesn't to be honest with you so this slot concerns me.

that fucking crawl all over me cos I am pretty sure gooner and I have not played together before so how would know what I do or do not do? I could see cephrir going over a player list and putting me as a possible easy person to tunnel but hard to lynch so as not to be incriminating with my flip. some1 told him something and since we do not run with the same crowd I srsly doubt this came from outside communication.

We've played together twice mollie.

what games cos I sure as fuck don't remember you

[pirate mollie]

what are you talking about

[pirate mollie]

I still don't know what you are talking about if you got something to say spit it out cos I am cranky today

[pirate mollie]

HAI AEGOR I SHOT DOWN YOUR SHITTY LITTLE CASE ON ME ARE YOU GOING TO ADDRESS THAT

[pirate mollie]

explain your case. cos I shot it down when I addressed gooner ohhhh oh looky there but you wanna ignore that yeah? he was parroting you so you could just I dunno address the points I made to him since it was YOUR case.

would you like for me to repost it? it is only like a couple of pages back

[pirate mollie]

lkMacmollie is my best scumread from within the neighbourhood. Sangres is almost confirmed town. Aegor seems well engaged and is posting and arguing a lot today which I like. You're doing the same.

On the other hand mollie has been lurky, has a poor voting record and is sitting back again today and letting other people do her defending for her. She's being given a free pass by a lot of people for no reason and I dislike it, it makes me think she's scum.

that is an outright lie I have been very active this day round. again same thing I said to aegor, I explained this shit in the qt WHICH YOU NEVER FUCKING GOT BACK TO!!!

also you are gonna have to explain about my voting record since other than ssk I voted the same people you did!!!\o/!!!

oh and before you continue you might want to acquaint yourself with how I feel about bussing!:

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1700

it is a well known fact that I don't bus on this site and I certainly wouldn't do it so retardedly on d1

you also might want to ask sangres if any of those look like my nk choices I am just going to psychically intuit that the answer will be no.

NOT TO MENTION that it is another well known fact that ssk does

NOT

like me if I was on a scumteam with him he would have replaced out immediately or he would have bussed me no fucking way would he be okay if we were on the same team. my way of dealing with him is to just ignore him and his snark and do my thing and let other people sort him. actually this may be the first game where he DIDN'T get snarky with me I suppose that should have been a red flag but truth is I am so used to ignoring him it didn't even register

and where have I not done my own defending and let other people do it for me? YOU HAVE NO CASE WTF IS THERE TO DEFEND AGAINST

[pirate mollie]

1. I wasn't active lurking.
2. how is my voting record terrible when I am pretty sure I have voted the same people as you except for ssk.
3. bussing a scum partner on d1 and not giving them a chance to claim is pretty retarded bussing IMO. I am not retarded.
4. mebbe you missed the part where ssk and I cannot exist on a scumteam. I was scumreading mastina at the time and when I got to the thread ssk was already hammered. mastina looked town for his defense of ssk even if ssk did not flip scum.

your whole dumb case can be pinpointed to omg mollie did not vote ssk so she must be scum! <--- try again

continue to flail aegor

[pirate mollie]

OH!!! AND THERE IS THE NKA!!!

lets see am I going to nk the the hydra where 1 head has decimated my entire team on this site like oh I dunno 3 or 4 times and when I say my entire team I MEAN MY FUCKING ENTIRE TEAM.

or lets go with the second head whom I have been playing mafia with for a number of years has gmed countless scum-me games and can read me like an open book?

I dunno this is hard!!!!

but mebbe I nked varsoon cos I feeeered him more.

[pirate mollie]

I'm here

metal I really can't tell with you, yanno? you are 1 of those who pulls on the heartstrings a bit I know I have a habit of saving you from lynches but it bit me in the ass in xeno2.

lets talk tell me you are town

[pirate mollie]

it's not me you have to convince anyway i don't have a vote, i am merely a double vote enabler who's forced to sheep sangres or get modkilled

wait what?

you are just now wondering about this? he has been alluding to it all game I can't tell if he is trolling or being srs. every time I ask him about it he snarls and gets snarky like he won't let me anywhere near him. <----- this seems scummy to me but I am following your lead and it is counter to his meta but he was in a hydra that game but now I am wondering how much of the posting was done by muffina

@ muffina

is that a claim or what

[pirate mollie]

every time I ask him about it he snarls and gets snarky like he won't let me anywhere near him

wat

you've been doing it all game stahp pretending that you haven't.

and you are all like "I do not have the warm glow that you guyz do about mollie lets lynch her" with zero interaction and not to mention that you have yet to state reasons

and you never answered my question *shocker*

[pirate mollie]

newbie games dont count

metal this doesn't make me feel better about you

[pirate mollie]

i had a dream last night that sangres and mollie were scum in this game

as far as I can recall, mollie and I have never been on a scum team together. I have had a few flashes of paranoia about her, mostly because she brought up the me-SK specter on day 3 or whenever it was. Nacho is confident she's town.

no in all of the games we have played together we have never been on the same scum team.

you had that whole kitty who brought home the dinner look to your posts which I associate with your indie game and the whole thing with you and danny has not been explained. I gave you room cos I know you try to work for town as indie and that seemed like what you were doing even tho I thought that an indie sk faction being town compatible would be unlikely. <---- it wasn't a ginormous concern since nacho towntelled like a bauss except at 3am when I would be thinking it really can't be this easy and town seemed stacked and there had to be more to what was going on.

but I feel better now with the sk flip!

[pirate mollie]

you don't

need

to think

liar

LAL

you really don't give a shit who gets lynched do you

VOTE: muffina

[pirate mollie]

sorry nacho but I think you are wrong about muffina

[pirate mollie]

I think it's the other way around?

yeah I guess that is why I voted metal huh instead of asking for him to town it up if he is town

which he has

[pirate mollie]

never lynching(100% townread): skull, mollie, sangre, muffin, orc, dan

unsure(non 100% townread): mastin, gooner, kaze venmar

With me as a townread.
Skull's looking town, yes, but not that town; I need an explanation, here.
Muffin I also want an explanation for.
Additionally, while I am townreading mollie, that townread has waned a bit, since I kinda feel like I remember town-Mollie having more...oomph? more rambling? More paranoia? More...stuff? than what she's got.

mastina the only reason I am staying away from you cos you have not done that thing you do which is to focus on a player you know will not meltdown when you are scum. but you have been softfossing me all game when did I go into your town pile that now you are reconsidering? I don't think it happened

plz don't be scum

[pirate mollie]

will you plz help me sort mastina

eta: that was to sangres

[pirate mollie]

okay. but why do you have a headache I thought the major stressors were eliminated from your life

eta: that was to sangres

[pirate mollie]

you really don't give a shit who gets lynched do you

VOTE: muffina

excuse me for a moment

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I wish people could see why I think you are scum

[pirate mollie]

you keep saying referring to something borky said or did and for some reason in your mind this clears you!

the only thing that I can think of is what happened in our neighborhood where I asked gooner to quantify his scumread on us.

and that is all I am saying about that.

you have been dogging sangres heels and not really doing any scumhunting of you own.

eta: I have no idea what you are talking about. spit it out cos otherwise it just looks like you are trying to throw up a smokescreen

[pirate mollie]

you keep saying referring to something borky said or did and for some reason in your mind this clears you!

i literally have no idea what you're talking about

unless you're referring to me mentioning the thing that cannot be mentioned in which case i'm not clearing myself because of that, i'm just bringing it up because it seems a rather important thing to neglect

you have been dogging sangres heels and not really doing any scumhunting of you own.

you say that but i played a somewhat major (or minor, i dunno, depends how you look at it) part in pushing the mafiassk and aegor lynches through (even if i wasn't voting aegor, arguably the self-vote breakdown had a lot to do with my unrelenting push on him so whatevs) and i've made my stances on the rest of the game pretty fucking clear

what scum hunting have

you

done recently?

I am scumhunting you, don't even pretend that it is otherwise so.

VOTE: muffina like a million times over

[pirate mollie]

are you...

are you serious?

coz like

i have a very low opinion of your town game. like a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very low opinion of your town game

but i don't think it's this bad

yeah I mean as long as you can feel good yeah?

[pirate mollie]

I am scumhunting you, don't even pretend that it is otherwise so.

VOTE: muffina like a million times over

Yeah, if scumhunting means dogging Nacho's dick while throwing empty dirt at Muffin qualifies as scumhunting, then sure.

erm...I am not the 1 dogging nacho's dick? that would be muffina?

srs question, where is this animosity coming from? I get muffina's cos I cost a town win and he is scum this game but what are you on about?

[pirate mollie]

hi metal!

[pirate mollie]

metal, muffina is scum! why don't you believe me

[pirate mollie]

I don't think he is!

[pirate mollie]

well why didn't you iso people in between hitting refresh?

[pirate mollie]

Muffin is town, sorry mollie, you're wrong, accept it, go home.

why do I feel like you are talking to me like I am town and that you know my alignment?????

[pirate mollie]

why do you think i'm scum, mollie? was 2951 it?

you aren't letting me in muffina

in xeno2 you put me at arm's length but still interacted with me and here you aren't doing it which is weird cos we have a history!

not letting me in is probably 1 of the biggest scum markers but venny looks freaking weird with his interjection it is like he thinks we are both town but not calling us this

I don't know. I suck at endgame. I prefer to die early and gloat about how right I was. scum have to know how I can go completely off the rails at endgame but sometimes I get it right you know?

if you are not scum then it has to be venny

[pirate mollie]

you are talking to me like I am town

[pirate mollie]

Hey,

Lynch MS -> Skull in that order plz thx.

VOTE: Metal Sonic

see this makes me want to lynch kaze cos no metal isn't scum

plz delete the hydra slip ty <3

[pirate mollie]

I am pretty sure your opinion of my town game can't get any lower.

I mean you have made it a point to point this out. :/

and this is what I hate. nacho, dgb, nero cain and a bunch of people can mislynch some1 and no1 thinks anything of it but when I mess up it is "omg mollie is stoopid".

it is totally unfair and I am sick of it is like you don't even remember the things I did right. it is a losing game when I am up against some1's predisposition to think I am shit.

[pirate mollie]

and this is what I hate. nacho, dgb, nero cain and a bunch of people can mislynch some1 and no1 thinks anything of it but when I mess up it is "omg mollie is stoopid".

i don't care about that, really

it has nothing to do with why i have a low opinion of your town game

i mislynch people all the time. bad reads are a part of mafia. but when i do it, or when any of those other players do it, i like to think there's a more solid foundation than "I AM ALWAYS RIGHT ABOUT X" or "PIRATE SPEAK IS SCUMMY" or whatever the fuck you're going on about in this game with venmar/me

I mostly play by gut but it has to do with this weird formatting of how people post and when they do it. that is what I mean by rhythm play.

if you can tell me a better way to explain it then I am all ears.

[pirate mollie]

also whether or not you're a "shit" player is another matter altogether

my opinion of your play has very little to do with how good or bad a player i think you are in other aspects of the game (like read accuracy or whatever you're referring to by "things you did right")

then whence comes your obvious low opinion of how I play?

accuracy of reads are only a part of it I agree. but there are things that I do know how to do and I feel like you disregard them cos you don't like me as a person.

[pirate mollie]

UNVOTE:

I need a break.

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: muffina

he is telling me my town game sucks he knows i am town

HE KNOWS IT

[pirate mollie]

incidentally, your play here is reminding me very much of tammy's play in that open. do nothing all game, get called out on it, whine about how you're town and blah blah then tunnel on town players (aegor being the only exception here but SK so whatever)

I have done a helluva lot more than you

I mean all you are doing is sheeping nacho, tunneling on me but not voting me oh and going after metal who is like lynchbait.

anyways the city people who are digging holes in my yard cut the cable line so my activity will be spotty until they get it fixed

[pirate mollie]

also if anybody tries to lynch metal I will go ballistic

[pirate mollie]

I am still having connectivity issues due to an icestorm last night. hopefully they will be resolved in the next couple of days

[pirate mollie]

what did I tell you people then you went and did it.

[pirate mollie]

I still don't have internet I am at starbucks now I will try to get to the neighborhood tonight

[pirate mollie]

I didn't get an invention

[pirate mollie]

you look pretty flaccid to me

[pirate mollie]

I am

waiting

waiting

waiting

for sangres

[pirate mollie]

I was waiting for you fery cos you said you wanted to talk.

and then didn't show back up but tbf we only had a few hours to get back on.

hi iceyrent!

[pirate mollie]

*then you

[pirate mollie]

then lets get to talking!

but I thought I did explain my muffina read???

[pirate mollie]

then lets get to talking!

but I thought I did explain my muffina read???

humor me and re-explain.

I'm extremely time-bound atm and it's 4 hours earlier than it feels and I haven't gotten used to daylight time yet.

tbh I am not sure I could paraphrase it.

I don't get why you would have him as town.

[pirate mollie]

486? what do you mean by that? was that a post?

[pirate mollie]

but we were talking about muffina

[pirate mollie]

what day was that cos you are not being clear

dfhfjshfdsj

skull was a hard town read but I am fucking paranoid to the max and I am losing patience for your cryptic responses

[pirate mollie]

are you guys scum?

[pirate mollie]

I am going to bed I have been awake for a ridiculousy large amount of time

[pirate mollie]

mollie is very limited in her options - nobody (apart from maaaaaaaaaaybe you and maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe mastin?) is buying the stuff she's trying to say about me, but even if she somehow gets me lynched, she's going to have to backtrack on some other reads eventually, so yeah i can totally see scum-mollie seeing sangres say "oh i have this worry about skull" and going "oh hey here's a good opportunity to open up my options a little more". in that sense, there is plenty of long-term gain.

I don't think that I will need to backtrack on anything if I can actually get you lynched I am fairly certain the game will be over but I can only speak into the void so many times before I just get tired. and hoarse.

I had you as town cos of your trolling and from what I have noticed about your scum games they are much tighter, you tend to go for more ananlytical angles in your pushes and your posts overall have a lot more care to them. here you don't seem to care but I am thinking you would have to shake up the meta at some point.

your single focus has no other reasoning behind it other than "every1 is town lulz" whereas you have been tweaking my scumdar for a while now. I felt a few early pings but I usually trust my meta reads until/unless I have a specific reason not to.

but I just realised my vote is not on you and I thought it was!

VOTE: muffina

sangres, I had gooner down as scum but in my notes it said 1 of aegor/gooner cos I found it unlikely that 2 members of a scumteam would be that blatant in the neighborhood qt of reaffirming each others bad cases altho I do know it happens from time to time. what is the likelihood of 1 sk + 1 scum going after me like that?

[pirate mollie]

Mod: V/LA for the next week. ESPECIALLY Thursday-Sunday.
My grandmother's dieing. She's in a coma, and fading fast. She's the relative I go to visit in southern Oregon each year, meaning that when I go down there, I'm obviously going to be V/LA, emphasis on the Limited Access. I'll do what I can to keep playing, though.

Noted, and condolences to you and your family.

sorry about your grandmother mastina

[pirate mollie]

I had you as town cos of your trolling and from what I have noticed about your scum games they are much tighter, you tend to go for more ananlytical angles in your pushes and your posts overall have a lot more care to them. here you don't seem to care

but I am thinking you would have to shake up the meta at some point

.

your single focus has no other reasoning behind it other than "every1 is town lulz" whereas you have been tweaking my scumdar for a while now. I felt a few early pings but I usually trust my meta reads until/unless I have a specific reason not to.

the tl;dr version - you think because i'm playing a game that is completely unlike how i apparently play as scum, i must be scum

*clap* *clap*

lemme be a true friend and highlight the bold that you so conveniently missed!

[pirate mollie]

your single focus has no other reasoning behind it other than "every1 is town lulz"

what exactly do you think is wrong with this, btw?

coz if you knew anything at all about my "meta" like you claim you do, you'd know i PoE a lot (especially when i'm town)

and it works for me, sooooooooooo

hey I poe too! but I at least provide more substance to the process

[pirate mollie]

and when did you start being concerned with the "substance" of my poe? coz you haven't asked any questions about it, or commented on it, or anything up til now

this is a lie.

I have been poking at you all game and you for the most part have largely ignored me until it became expedient for you to no longer do so.

[pirate mollie]

i didn't miss the bolded; you are literally saying you think i'm playing to my town game and playing opposite how i play as scum, and because of this i must be scum shaking things up!

and there's not really any need for substance here.

sangres and AD i've already gone over plenty of times. kaze-slot is at least not solo scum, and not worth pursuing any time soon. my reads on mastin and venmar are like... littered through my entire ISO, as is my read on gooner-slot. and skull for that matter. like it's literally all there, and just because i'm not repeating it in every post i make about it, doesn't mean there isn't substance.

I am literally saying that is why I

originally

read you as town and then proceeded to explain the progression of my read and why i am no longer sure that is good meta to apply but good job spinning it!

[pirate mollie]

you have 5 hours to start interacting with me

Just took action, and it's inter. Happy?

somewhat. I just noticed kaze asking every1 if they had a night action that failed in skull's post that post reeked and makes me not like kaze

I STILL say muffina's incessant trolling is town

the only thing that gives me pause is how he is playing up to sangres who are just gobbling it up.

I am not entirely free of suspecting that danny and sangres are actually an sk faction or something I asked them about it in our neighborhood I need to go back and look at what they said but I think it was nacho who was reading danny as town but I am not sure how much I trust that danny is really really good at playing scum he isn't afraid to get cosy

oh look there we go, was it this game where you said you had tailored your scumgame to sangres in a previous game?

it's not me you have to convince anyway i don't have a vote, i am merely a double vote enabler who's forced to sheep sangres or get modkilled

wait what?

you are just now wondering about this? he has been alluding to it all game I can't tell if he is trolling or being srs. every time I ask him about it he snarls and gets snarky like he won't let me anywhere near him. <----- this seems scummy to me but I am following your lead and it is counter to his meta but he was in a hydra that game but now I am wondering how much of the posting was done by muffina

@ muffina

is that a claim or what

oh look here is me poking at you for your blatant sheeping that you only clarified until much later!

every time I ask him about it he snarls and gets snarky like he won't let me anywhere near him

wat

you've been doing it all game stahp pretending that you haven't.

and you are all like "I do not have the warm glow that you guyz do about mollie lets lynch her" with zero interaction and not to mention that you have yet to state reasons

and you never answered my question *shocker*

here is me poking you some more!

you don't

need

to think

liar

LAL

you really don't give a shit who gets lynched do you

VOTE: muffina

cos at this point in the game he really didn't!

you really don't give a shit who gets lynched do you

VOTE: muffina

excuse me for a moment

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I wish people could see why I think you are scum

and I still wish people could.

anyways there are a few more posts but I think every1 gets the picture that I did not lie you are postulating something that is not true so I hardly think that I am the 1 who is lying here! cos like I said I have been poking at you for a while now!

eta: xposts

[pirate mollie]

I have been poking at you all game and you for the most part have largely ignored me until it became expedient for you to no longer do so.

show me examples of this happening before D5, or amend it to "i have been poking you since you started thinking i'm not town and you've been responding to me"

the very first post was not from d5 it was like d3 or 4

try again

I don't think the second 1 was either I got them from my iso

you are so fucking reaching to cobble together a firm ground "oh you only JUST TODAY said I was scum!" but I think shifting the goalposts to accommodate d5 is pretty amazing. now do it to d4 or d3 whenever aegor got lynched.

mebbe saying "all game" was an exaggeration but I know I have been poking at you and it goes beyond "just today".

[pirate mollie]

mollie break down the things you think i was sheeping sangres on

coz

this is what actually happened this game

D1 - vastly different opinions
D2 - too short to really tell
N2 - pieguy died and flipped town (see below)
D3 - they seemed unsure on mafiassk for a while, i was arguing that mafiassk was a scum tracker and pointing out why his claim didn't make much sense - literally no sheeping occurred
D4 - they wanted to lynch skull, i was arguing hard for an aegor lynch - again literally no sheeping occurred
D5 - i had a poe list they obviously didn't agree with, so i dunno what exactly you think i'm sheeping
D6 - here we are again same deal

if your argument is simply that i'm voting the same people they're voting, whoop-dee-fucking-doo i guess? that is a result of something visible in thread and you get no cookies for noticing it or pointing it out - nacho knows that's what i've been doing since the pieguy flip and he knows why it's happening (he even pointed out to you i made a similar bet in that game you forced a lynch through on him - you ignored him pointing this out). but show me one example of me sheeping their opinions on anything anywhere. just one example. because i know you won't be able to find one. so you're making shit up here.

yep, it really is that simple to abdicate votes in favour of *whatever reason* as scum. I thought at first that you were trying to just feel sangres out cos sometimes that is what I will do to a player if I am trying to sort them.

if I can move back out of apathy I will see if I can find an example of when you did blindly sheep their reads cos I am pretty sure it happened.

and I am not making shit up. but keep trying to apply that spin that you are so adept at doing.

[pirate mollie]

I have been poking at you all game and you for the most part have largely ignored me until it became expedient for you to no longer do so.

show me examples of this happening before D5, or amend it to "i have been poking you since you started thinking i'm not town and you've been responding to me"

this was a xpost it isn't like it is that hard to figure out that is what is happening!

so yeah I am skimming in order to keep up

I knew as soon as I saw those posts I should have stepped back in order to digest more fully what you are saying but I still think you are scum but hey get me lynched at least there will be a beautiful beautiful trail that will lead directly to you plus it will be funny to watch you backtrack from this from the dead qt after your banging on how I am the 1 who will have to backtrack!

I will respond more fully later.

eta: more xposts

how about you stop you shirfting the goalposts and stop spinning? how about that?

I will get to it when I feel like it. your scum so I don't feel an overwhelming urge to coddle you

[pirate mollie]

****just passing through with a picket sign that says plz lynch muffina plz****

[pirate mollie]

me: I am not lying look here
muffina: I CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH I NEVER AGREED WITH SANGRES EVER I JUST SHEEP THEIR VOTES
me: that was kind of what I meant but I am pretty sure you sheeped their reads at least at the start of the game
muffina: STOP CALLING ME ON MY SHIT PROVE IT!!!!!!
me: :effort: it is like right there. you don't even have me as a scumread you are basing it off of poe
muffina: THAT IS HOW I SCUMHUNT BUT NOW I HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE YOU SCUM
me: okay
muffina: SEE! SHE IS SCUM!

which is why I feel like talking to you is a big waste of time. if you are town you srsly suck I am leaning that you are not cos you had to work your way into a scumread on me and a shitload of other things mostly gut.

your scum I am nearly positive of it. if you are town then I will eat my hat

[pirate mollie]

people have stated why they think I am town and it is like they never said a thing cos you ignore all of it cos it doesn't suit your agenda. scum

[pirate mollie]

like the person who you claim i'm sheeping LITERALLY TOLD YOU you have no idea what you're talking about

dear dummy,

fery was clarifying that you

often

disagreed with them not all of the time
in an effort to mediate I do believe. they
think we are both town. I think they are
wrong. you are pushing bullshit agendas
and they do not add up. it looks desperate
and pretty pathetic.

no love,
mollie

[pirate mollie]

dear loser pathetic scumfuck,

I am not wrong. no, everything
that I have said is not bullshit
it will probably just take a few
for people to see the light
if they ever do. I have hope
altho not much these dayz.
I attempted to engage with
you in an effort to mebbe rethink
my read on you but then I
realised I was talking to scum
so no I am not going to waste
my time.
like this cutesy shit is as far
as I will go but even that
is going to get old quick.
you can lynch me and then
you will be faced with the
aftermath which will cheer
my heart. so keep trying
all that you will be left with
is a blubbering plan of
lynching *whoever* and I
will find that funny.

even less love than I had before,
mollie

[pirate mollie]

like, if you were town, and you really thought you had a point here

you wouldn't be playing like this

you'd be doing everything to yell down my lynch or show that i'm lying

but you can't

because you're the one that's lying

and you're pushing bullshit to make it look like you're doing something

and when you get called out on it you whine about how it's too much effort to do it

but the real reason is that you can't

there is this thing called

projection

which I actually consider a scumtell

jesus christ will people stop being pussies and lynch muffina already

[pirate mollie]

erm no

I have had strong stances in this game so who is lying now

I had suspicions on flandre but I was letting mac take d1 so he can could get into the game cos if I don't he never will. RL happened to him and I was sorry to lose him.

I have a point no matter how much you try to deny it.

I care. I want you lynched and your ceaseless rewriting history just confirms you as scum in my eyes.

but people will see the light. I believe.

[pirate mollie]

also people are probs ignoring your "MOLLIE ISN'T TOWN OMG" points cos they are pretty stupid only I don't think you are stupid I think you are scum.

[pirate mollie]

okay so I just iso-ed mssk and oh wow look at who he was distancing from later before he was lynched

also would tracker result show up negative on some1 who was in a neighborhood? cos I don't think so

your whole scheme is collapsing it is just going to take a minute for other people to get there.

also didn't you have cephrir as town

and I don't always shout from the rooftops about my scumreads and I have defo scaled it back after too many heads and you should know this you seem to be incapable of making the shift in analysis and I don't think you are incapable at all.

[pirate mollie]

promise me that muffina is the lynch for tomorrow and I will be okay

[pirate mollie]

if you somehow flip town, i will take solace in the fact that you're going to hit the dead QT, see the spoilers, and realise that every single fucking thing i've said today was 100% truthful and that your shit argument was so fucking abysmally bad that you should be ashamed of yourself because it's worse than the pirate thing; at least the pirate thing wasn't based on something that was blatantly false

but i don't think that's going to happen here

muffina

my argument is not bad, its like you are not even reading what I post. it isn't false.

I am not even going to fight this, nacho reading me as scum just means we have lost touch with each other. my concern is he actually pays attention to my reads if you don't nk him.

[pirate mollie]

I don't care.

my give a fuckometer is broken. these days I fight my lynch a lot less just so I don't wind up in lylo unless some1 srsly pisses me off.

you can tell yourself whatever you want to make yourself feel good about lynching me but when the day ends you will still have to face the consequences. and if you are town they will be bad.

UNVOTE:

I am not going to self vote cos N gave me a lecture in a game about self voting (even tho it was vengeful).

but you guyz carry on. I am done.

[pirate mollie]

if it is skull I am going to be pissed

[pirate mollie]

prod received

it really isn't like I am going to change my mind in this

[pirate mollie]

okay

[pirate mollie]

VOTE: muffina

[pirate mollie]

what is a mason neighbor

I don't get how you can be both

[pirate mollie]

@ skull

mebbe you look up how I feel about bussing and how I got into a postgame spat with regfan over it. I will try to link it later. sometimes you have to bus but you don't do it in stupid ways. I WISH I had more time to talk to nacho and I find it pretty FUCKING convenient that he was nked before I had a chance to more fully talk to him he was trying to sort me out

for fery

because fery was getting paranoid about we but we have an implicit understanding that we go through other people to deal with other so that it doesn't shit up the game. that is what nacho was doing, I guarantee it, cos that is what he has done for me. <--- you probably don't understand this but there a lot of people who do cos they have seen the fireworks.

also where did gooner quote from the neighborhood?

@ mastina

I don't like how skull is doing zero reevaluation after the venny lynch and is throwing suspicion my way when I am so *popular*. I still think it is muffina.

[pirate mollie]

posture moar muffina

I am not the best orator. <---- this should not come as a surprise to any1. I think your whole sheeping LEMME BE CLEAR WITH THIS OMG OTHERWISE WE SPEND 12 PAGES OF NITPICKING FINE POINTS

[pirate mollie]

posture moar muffina

I am not the best orator. <---- this should not come as a surprise to any1. I think your whole sheeping LEMME BE CLEAR WITH THIS OMG OTHERWISE WE SPEND 12 PAGES OF NITPICKING FINE POINTS

FUCK THIS SHIT WHY DID THAT SUBMIT

AS WHAT I WAS SAYING

"NITPICKING FINE POINTS" in lieu of abdicating your votes screams to me manipulation of nacho, specifically, with a greater agenda in mind.

and that is all I have to say. for once.

cos sometimes it just feels pointless.

[pirate mollie]

i don't think i was being at all antagonistic except when she had basically been proven to be wrong and still insisted she had a case

so yeah, i called her bad if she's actually town and didn't see the problem there

but i didn't antagonise her before she started going on and on about bullshit that (a) wasn't true, (b) she refused to back up, and (c) she refused to acknowledge was wrong after been shown exactly why it was wrong

I feel like you have been antagonistic since the start of the game. you ignored me. I thought I pointed it out a lot more than I did. so sue me

I don't like the way you had to work up to a scumread on me. like you had to work for it and I think it is because your poe list consisted of town and who the fuck is not ready to lynch mollie. only here is the thing, I think you know that I am not and easy lynch which explains the single focus and it gives you room to hide. I think this is why nked sangres cos you KNEW they would start looking elsewhere. they have all game and kept settling for compromise lynches but eventually they would have settled on YOU.

you are scum and with every breathe in my body I will keep screaming it from the rooftops!

[pirate mollie]

you realise that nacho outright told you that we made the same deal in the hydra game and that the only reason i didn't go through with it there is because you forced a lynch through on him

do you think i wouldn't have kept to the deal in the hydra game? or are you saying i was scum there, too?

also you realise they outright told you that i wasn't sheeping their reads, and was, in fact, trying to get them to change their vote when i disagreed with where it was - e.g. when ffery outright told you i almost convinced her to vote aegor except she didn't have a chance to speak with nacho before day ended

coz, you know, that would kinda counter your point about me abdicating anything

this isn't nitpicking anything. it's showing that you're blatantly wrong

there is so much I want to say

so much

[pirate mollie]

eta: it doesn't show that I am blatantly wrong. there is a lack of a thought process here which I cannot explain

[pirate mollie]

1. reached out to you with my dumb town read! you were happy with it, it was only when it faltered that you even thought I was scum.
2. site meta. don't expect me to think you are so ignorant as to not know this or how much I am disliked!!! I think you took great pains to point it out or something.
3. cos I know those 2 players but sweet that this is what you do, "oh did they say this? huh? HUH? HUH????"

/whatevers

eta: here we go with the self-meta arguments. and I can't effectively argue against it. *sigh*

[pirate mollie]

I think what is frustrating you is that I don't really provide an argument that you can easily refute. you are nitpicking and I think you understand me enough as a player to know that I am not very adept at arguing against this.

3 games and you should know this about me amI wrong in assuming you are not retarded with your dancing moves?

I don't believe you I think you are full of it. it was a reach out

[pirate mollie]

if you calling me town was supposed to be a "reach out" and you had issues with me not responding to this so-called "reach out", why didn't you ever mention it?

also, since when do you "reach out" by calling someone town and nothing else?

I thought I did. that is why i was asking you why you were sheeping sangres. even if you dismiss your sheeping to some dumb thing I ask you this, will this be consistent in all games? I understand what is frustrating you but you are making no effort to understand what is frustrating me, which makes me think you are fucking scum.

I was overgamed when this 1 started and during most of the duration, that is why I chose to hydra with some1. my hydra partner flaked cos of understandable IRL stuff and I have been floundering a bit, which is what I do when I am overgamed and I don't have a hydra partner. <-------- go look at how many games I completed during this 1. this is all fucking verifiable.

I thought I said more than I did, I certainly made notes of it on my spreadsheet. when I asked you about your votes, that was me voicing suspicion of you cos it was standing out. I don't go rabid in all of my games believe it or not. I had a pretty solid townread on sangres especially after aegor flipped sk cos that was my only reservation about that slot was that might be an sk faction with danny.

speaking of danny,

DANNY WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING ANYTHING??? AS CLOSE TO CONFIRMED I WOULD EXPECT YOU TO BE TAKING A LEAD OR AT THE VERY LEAST WORK WITH YOUR TOWNREADS WHY ARE YOU NOT DOING THIS???

BACK TO MUFFINA. I am going to tell you the same thing I have told majiffy and thorella; I can't out argue you. I just know in my heart and in my gut that you are scum. and that is all I have to say really. even if you get me lynched today you still have tomorrow to deal with and I am banking on town hopefully

not

being retarded altho with the way that my recent games have been ending it is probably retarded to even have hope.

[pirate mollie]

even if you dismiss your sheeping to some dumb thing I ask you this, will this be consistent in all games?

why does this matter? if it were something that was consistent across every game i play with nacho (because i doubt there's anyone else willing to make a bet like that and keep it), at best it would mean it's an alignment neutral thing, ergo you thinking it's "scummy" is ridiculous.

when I asked you about your votes, that was me voicing suspicion of you cos it was standing out

no, it really wasn't. because you were literally calling me town in the same posts you were asking about it. that's not voicing suspicion.

because I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt at the time? it doesn't mean that I was not suspicious of you tho somehow you seem confused on some1 who was confused about how to read you at the time.

@ mastina

that was whole lot of hedge which is weird coming from a player who prides themsleves on lategame analysis :/

@ skull

I have had you as town and we have largely been staying away from each other until now. I don't like your push on me not 1 bit especially since it seems like you are missing all of the signals. and I don't know what to do with that.

@ iceyrent

muffina is dancing around and I cannot explain it. I just can't.

@ danny boy

if you abandon me and leave me here to die I will never forgive you. just ffs plz don't let muffina make it to endgame if you are still around.

[pirate mollie]

I didn't receive anything and I am too tired/lazy to look it up right now but I will look tomorrow cos I think he tried to and I think I have said so.

[pirate mollie]

copy paste all of the notes you took on the game from this spreadsheet you were supposedly keeping

okay

not sure how this will look since it is a googledoc spreadsheet:

players replacements claims flips neighbors d1 reads d2 reads

1. ActionDan something with sangres 1. ActionDan - town mebbe sk with sangres
2. Aegor sk why can I never get roles like that neighbor 2. Aegor - waffle scum
3. Angry Frat Bros (BROseidon + AngryPidgeon) 2nd neighborhood 3. Angry Frat Bros (BROseidon + AngryPidgeon) - town but his last post and unresponse is weird town
4. Brian Skies gooner neighbor 4. Gooner Brian Skies - unsure unsure
5. Cabd 1 shot watcher; watched sangres dan, himself, pie and mafiassk visited them 5. Cabd - I feel is town.
6. Cephrir mafiare animated of magdalene 6. Cephrir - town TOWN
7. Flandre Scarlet mafia blue testament
8. Kagami vt 8. Kagami - unsure
9. Kazekirimaru 9. Kazekirimaru - town! unsure
10. macmollie (mac + pirate mollie) vt neighbor 10. macmollie (mac + pirate mollie) - town!!! \o/
11. MafiaSSK mafia red testament 11. MafiaSSK - town! TOWN
12. mastin2 12. mastin2 - leaning town town
13. Metal Sonic 2nd neighborhood 13. Metal Sonic - he is being weird in this game in that his reads are fragmented. unsure
14. orcinus_theoriginal hater something oh wait jk 14. orcinus_theoriginal - I simply don't know. unsure mebbe scum thinking yeah
15. pieguyn bodyguard 15. pieguyn - eh
16. sangres (fferyllt + Nachomamma8) something with dan eighbor 16. sangres (fferyllt + Nachomamma8) - town even tho nacho is ignoring me! nacho screamed town but fery gives me the willies
17. Skullduggery eighbor 17. Skullduggery - town town town strongest town read
18. Varsoon town 18. Varsoon - unsure
19. Venmar 2nd neighborhood 19. Venmar - unsure leaning town town mebbe? dunno
20. zMuffinMan 20. zMuffinMan - TOWN unsure seems like he is trying to hard with nacho

[pirate mollie]

it doesn't look as bad as I thought.

I got busy so no notes past d3 except for flips. the strikethroughs, colours and bolded did not copypasta

[pirate mollie]

why the fuck am I talking to scum

/kills self

[pirate mollie]

Oh I suppose I should add that it's very likely town has another pr so if one claims we should treat it as town

HERE IS YOUR CHANCE TO CLAIM A PR SO NO1 WILL LYNCH YOU MUFFINA IF DANNY BOY THINKS I AM GOING TO BELIEVE IT HE IS OUT OF HIS MIND!!!!

danny did your mom ever sit on balls like I told her to

[pirate mollie]

great job in asking me for my notes and then try to discredit them

I use a spreadsheet. I bulletpoint my thoughts to make them short and sweet. mastina has hydra-ed with me before he knows how I do things

but whatevs. I'm done

[pirate mollie]

yep i came up with all of those notes, flips, replace outs in 3 minutes of course it is fake

/sarcasm

you look so goddamn desperate I don't even know what to say

[pirate mollie]

i mean, i don't really care if you do or don't, because you're probably scum

but if you were actually town and telling the truth about having formed reads outside the thread (like you claimed you did with flandre) i would have expected to see these thoughts in your notes - and if you had taken notes and kept track of your thoughts, it would have been *some* sort of evidence pointing towards you being town

but as is, those notes are nothing like what i was looking for and really easily faked as scum so, frankly, i don't give a shit about them

probably scum

are you people even seeing this

muffina could probably announce that he was scum and you dummies would still dither like bunny rabbits

[pirate mollie]

also i was specifically looking for more detail, something that scum-you would have had to put more effort into to fake

and i was also specifically looking for evidence of that flandre read you eluded to when there's no evidence of it in thread

but apparently you didn't even keep notes about it, so whatever

I don't keep notes as scum usually. when I do, I use the qt unless I hydra with some1 then it is to keep track of what my partner's thoughts are.

say whatever you want. I am not you. you trying to compare me to you is just embarrassing at this point cos it is pretty obvious we have radically different approaches to the game. the most obvious being is that you actually enjoy playing scum (I have never understood this) and I don't so you are more likely to put effort into it.

occupy# lynch muffina has officially begun

[pirate mollie]

danny, mastina, skull, iceyrent just look at muffina's posts. just

look

at them

[pirate mollie]

sjdhrhioqhnidnhe

[pirate mollie]

[pirate mollie]

it is that I

know

think muffina is scum

I don't like mastina's hedgey post but I wanna see what he has to say about muffina

[pirate mollie]

did I not already point out that she hedged on her reads but she is shiny while muffina is scum I think

[pirate mollie]

Also can I just say that I love your notes post so much.

why because I had 2 flipped scum as town

SHADDUP

[pirate mollie]

okay

[pirate mollie]

I am v/la from friday to sunday.

that is when I work.

[pirate mollie]

mod can you plz take note of this ty <3

[pirate mollie]

Prod dodging, planning to spent serious time with this game in the weekend.

when?

muffina I know you know why i think you are scum.

this is an olive branch, take it and we will talk

[pirate mollie]

1. I already addressed this
2. I said you sheeped them I didn't clarify whether or not you sheeped their reads. that you jumped all over it is what made me sus of you.
3. you totally did
4. .........
5. no, I think you did it to remove a player who perceived me as town.
6. I already addressed this

it is up to you if you want to take the olive branch. right now I am wondering about mastina but I do not like skull's opportunism at all. and I HATE pidgey's posts in this day round.

if you happen to be town and I am wrong in my read on you the least you can do is help me work things out

[pirate mollie]

plz plz plz don't let muffina skate by tomorrow.

touhou just finished and I am telling you this looks like the same play. he catered his game to nacho and that is what it looks like he did here altho mastina's last post looks dreadful and I don't know what to do with pidgey.

I don't envy town tomorrow.

[pirate mollie]

sorry scum i tried

i just suck playing scum and it was really unfortunate that I was the last 1 remaining.

i love how i was brutally murdered and then forced to attend to a nickleback concert.

that made my day

[pirate mollie]

scum qt: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/eHRgPDt8sUSEb

it was pretty freaking painful.

I think I fucked up with night actions and I seem to always do this as scum on this site. I simply don't understand the rhythm here as scum.

I nearly cried when cephrir was nked. it put me in a position where I was facing 10 town. <--- this isn't impossible I have done it before but not with this timeframe. and not without help from the sk. (aegor )

I think scum were a bit underpowered, mebbe I am biased in that I think only a charismatic player can pull off a neighourhood. I am really not that charismatic. I am not adept at persuading people to go against their better judgment. like I am still trying to figure out how to convince town players to go against their bad judgment. <---- I am still pretty inept.

some day I will get it I hope.

I would have loved the sk role in this game omg.

thank you for the flavour borky <3

and thanks for modding the game! it had its fun pieces