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Post Post #1800 (isolation #0) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:45 pm

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Gonna say now that I have no plans of reading the game/catching up.

VOTE: MINA
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Post Post #1806 (isolation #1) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:58 pm

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Shit what did you guys do to piss chamber off so much

It's a good thing I was able to read his alignment just by receiving a msg asking to replace a chamber slot. >.>b

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Post Post #1827 (isolation #2) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:05 pm

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I want to hammer so badly but not feeling it right now :/
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Post Post #1828 (isolation #3) » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:16 pm

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I'd be much more happy with a Mina wagon right now tbh
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Post Post #1881 (isolation #4) » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:02 pm

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In post 1860, Malakittens wrote:
In post 1800, Katsuki wrote:Gonna say now that I have no plans of reading the game/catching up.

VOTE: MINA
I seriously hate it when people do shit like this.

Why replace in when you aren't going to bother reading the damn game. (I have only replaced in and not read the game once, but that was because I was solo scum in a mulitball micro game and I had a feeling it would be a loss so i didn't bother.)
Well, I'd point to the recent faraday upick where I replaced in and instantly voted spyspyscum, then voted quadzscum the next day.

I do do my due diligence, it just doesn't involve reading the game. = =b

It's a terrible post that dismisses the value of the replacements reads.
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Post Post #1882 (isolation #5) » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:25 pm

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FUCKING CHRIST

FOR ONCE IM NOT LAZY ENOUGH TO GO AND LOOK THROUGH A COMPLETED GAME

ONLY TO FIND ALL THE POSTS GONE DUE TO TIGERS

BUT FUCK
MINAS REACTION REMINDS ME OF THAT GAME BUT I CANT CHECK

Either way she giggled this game don't get innocent mina feels (well, as innocent as mina can be anyways)
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Post Post #1883 (isolation #6) » Fri Feb 28, 2014 4:34 pm

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In post 1830, Mina wrote:Katsuki, you want a Mina wagon...

...but have not actually read the game or a single thing I've posted...

HOW ABOUT YOU PROVE THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE THE MAGICAL ABILITY YOU THINK YOU HAVE TO READ ME AND DON'T JUST LIKE CALLING ME SCUM EVERY SINGLE GAME BY SKIMMING MY ISO? I'm actually obviously town this game to pretty much everyone. (Ghatokaca tunneling on me D2 for a case that boils down to me
waffling too much at deadline
and not reevaluating is actually part of why I suspect them.)
Last time you told me to "prove" and accused me of not reading the game aside from skimming your ISO, you were scum.

I'm not gonna get into a giant argument again like I did that game. It was depressing and I got neither of my scumreads lynched (you/hito and spyspy) :(
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Post Post #1892 (isolation #7) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 12:31 pm

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Oh hey its UT you wanna run another terrible quicklynch wagon on me again?

That said my vote isn't in the right place.
unvote, vote: mina
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Post Post #1896 (isolation #8) » Sat Mar 01, 2014 6:27 pm

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Yes.
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Post Post #1916 (isolation #9) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:27 am

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In post 1912, Ghatokaca wrote:
I think Osseus, Mina, Toasty are probably the scumteam
Funny enough, these are the 3 that give me off feelings as well.
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Post Post #1917 (isolation #10) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 7:28 am

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In post 1910, bazinga wrote:mina you're scaring me
That's because she's scum.

That's also why her ISO is the only thing I looked at before replacing in.
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Post Post #1921 (isolation #11) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 9:23 am

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In post 1918, Mina wrote:If that's true, then I just learned something very useful about you for future games.
What may that be? You're already incredibly familiar with the way I play.
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Post Post #1930 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:13 am

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In post 1927, Mina wrote:
In post 1921, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1918, Mina wrote:If that's true, then I just learned something very useful about you for future games.
What may that be? You're already incredibly familiar with the way I play.
I don't think you got the implication, and it doesn't really matter. Just know that
one day
, this will be used against you. :twisted:
Used against me?

We both know you'll never get me mislynched should I ever be town and you scum.

And should I ever be scum and you town, you know I wouldn't mislynch lil adorable ol' Mina now would I? (at least not first) ;P
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Post Post #1931 (isolation #13) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:14 am

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In post 1923, bazinga wrote:Katsuki, got any questions for me?
Why'd you guys make chamber ragequit?

I wanted a scum PM but the moment I saw I was replacing Chamber (and how he replaced out), I knew it was a town slot. :(
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Post Post #1933 (isolation #14) » Sun Mar 02, 2014 11:43 am

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Oh man those were some messy D1 wagons... :/

Might have to go back and read those someday...

Also I'm not sure what was said but you guys must've really done something to piss Chamber off that much.
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Post Post #1954 (isolation #15) » Mon Mar 03, 2014 1:45 pm

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Still alive, still need to go over those wagons.

What are the chances of all those D1 wagons being town wagons I wonder... it's been a while since I've seen so many substantial wagons in a single day in a mini...

I really want to see toasty dead though... What do.
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Post Post #1984 (isolation #16) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:15 pm

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In post 1981, ToastyToast wrote:
In post 1945, Mina wrote:What has Katsuki done in his first posts that he only would have done as scum, other than be Katsuki and therefore mislynchable?
-trying to get people of their back by saying "OBVIOUSLY CHAMBER IS TOWN HE QUIT TEEHEE"
.....like in what world is that worth anything? Its illogical.
In post 1827, Katsuki wrote:I want to hammer so badly but not feeling it right now :/
No one cares. Is this supposed be them showing how "townie" they are for not taking action, but saying they would like to?
In post 1828, Katsuki wrote:I'd be much more happy with a Mina wagon right now tbh
If you'd be much more happy with it, what are you going to do about it?
In post 1881, Katsuki wrote:It's a terrible post that dismisses the value of the replacements reads.
Unless your "reads" have zero reasons behind them. You don't have to read in a catch-up game, but that doesn't mean you can let everyone do your work for you.
In post 1916, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1912, Ghatokaca wrote: I think Osseus, Mina, Toasty are probably the scumteam
Funny enough, these are the 3 that give me off feelings as well.
I've already mentioned this, but in what world do the three of us as a scum team make sense?
In post 1954, Katsuki wrote:Still alive, still need to go over those wagons.
What are the chances of all those D1 wagons being town wagons I wonder... it's been a while since I've seen so many substantial wagons in a single day in a mini...
I really want to see toasty dead though... What do.
Because my votes were totally the scummiest. And not that lovely BRO wagon.
Well you could always night kill me.
This entire post can be summed up as setting up "why we should lynch Katsuki", and not "why Katsuki is scum". (esp. quote/point 2)

None of those questions are particularly interested in actually discerning my alignment.

w.e I'll take this instead.

UNVOTE, VOTE: TOASTY


pls don't nk me mina ._.
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Post Post #1985 (isolation #17) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:16 pm

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In post 1962, Ghatokaca wrote: VOTE: ToastyToast

Best lynch for today. Medea, Mina, Kats, Ampersand, Malakittens: join us and make this happen.

~ F-16
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #18) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:17 pm

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In post 1966, bazinga wrote:VOTE: Ampersand
Why amper exactly?
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Post Post #1987 (isolation #19) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:19 pm

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In post 1973, Mina wrote:
In post 1965, bazinga wrote:
In post 1913, Mina wrote:Nacho, I didn't want to keep up the interaction on Friday night because I was getting extremely pissed off
he may not actually think you're scum, as he has said multiple times, cos it's like a process in getting what he needs from you.
In post 1955, Ampersand wrote:Medea - I think null; CES thinks scum. CES still feels most strongly Medea is scum, based on various points (the list of reads on Day 1, the unconvincing push on Mina Day 2, other non-specifics). Whereas I think Medea bringing up the info about the roleblocker on Day 1 is a point in their favour, given their full claim, and the support for that claim from chamber. I believe that it does really say that in their PM (it seems an unlikely thing to fabricate, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone make up something as specific yet trivial as that), and as a scum-neighbouriser, I don’t think that it would have mentioned whether their ability can be roleblocked or not. Although part of me wishes I could follow CES' read on Medea, because he is so certain, and a large part of my resistance is just my gut. If I was going to lynch one of the power role claims, I'd prefer it to be Mala. But it's plausible that both are town-roles, since neither are especially overpowered, so I'd currently rather lynch neither. (CES says that I am too easily blinded by their PR claim, and that townies tend to let scum get away with fakeclaims too easily.)
and you are agreeing with your partner to vote Medea over people in your lowest collective tier because....
Having hydra'd with CES before, I find this
EXTREMELY
plausible. <_<

Actually, uh...now I think Ampersand is town again. (I wish CES had said more about their D1 Ghatokaca read, though.)

To believe that Ampersand is scum, you'd have to believe that they have no motivation to actually manipulate people or push wagons or post fake-cases or analysis that would win them town cred. However, they have LOTS of motivation for performing an extended LARP called "Hypothetical
Wicked
Mafia Where They're Both Bickering Town." Do you think what they do in their free time is fake arguments about the game rather than actually post in it?

There's no agenda being pushed. The way they're disagreeing in-thread feels more like actual transparency and mismatching playstyles than an excuse to fence-sit on reads. I could buy some of it as acting or Fenchurch just posting what she thinks she'd say as town (I'm afraid I'm underestimating Fenscum, since she's smart enough to fake plausible scumreads), but not really to this level. So many little details fit--random references to conversations they had, Fenchurch trying to understand CES's conviction in Medea scum... It's also kind of similar to Fenchurch posting the PMs she sent to the mods overnight while claiming tracker in Scumdon to show her thought process.

Also, their individual reads are very consistent, with Fenchurch's reads being more by-the-book and CES's more intuitive. (All the observations from the CES side feel very consistent with my experiences hydraing with him, although I'm admittedly terrified because of chamber's scumread.)

That said, Fenchurch, what changed between the last time you called Hanzo townish and the big reads list? Also, when were your most recent scum games on the forum?
Just a note to myself that I may want to come back to this post someday.
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Post Post #1990 (isolation #20) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:54 pm

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In post 1988, ToastyToast wrote:Except I'm not trying to lynch you? I was asked why my read changed when you entered the game, and that's why.
And the reasoning for your read change was lolzy at best. (it's pretty bad)
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Post Post #1991 (isolation #21) » Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:54 pm

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In post 1989, bazinga wrote:
In post 1986, Katsuki wrote:
In post 1966, bazinga wrote:VOTE: Ampersand
Why amper exactly?
cos they are your scummmates but nobody wants to lynch you cos of chamber or mina so this will have to do

capisca?
I'm scum now?

Interesting. Why?
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Post Post #2016 (isolation #22) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:17 pm

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In post 1992, bazinga wrote:how else am I supposed to draw the nk away from you.

bad katsuki BAD
oh shit pls shoot bazinga instead of me guiz thx
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Post Post #2017 (isolation #23) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:19 pm

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In post 1998, Osseus pseudotripodis wrote:I've literally never seen katsuki give this much of a shit about game. everything I know is wrong

in other news we will compromise for Toasty. I dunno if I agree with bazinga about Ampersand, but that slowwwwwwwwwww creaky 2 day warmup to vote us from Ampersand is lulzy as fuck. was really expecting them to actually put effort into the read instead of IIOA but what can you do

still wish that ghat lynch was happening but he'll still be scum tomorrow so
unvote vote toasty
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Post Post #2019 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 2:23 pm

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In post 2013, notscience wrote:Katsuki talk to me about Toasty :/
His posting doesn't feel genuine.

He also feels slightly different from the games I've modded with him in it.

My reads aren't coming along easily, I've yet to recover my form from a long time ago. Thus far my scummy pool has included Toasty, UT, Mina, but I don't feel that they are the 3. I'd be shocked if I were wrong on at least 2 of them though.
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Post Post #2022 (isolation #25) » Wed Mar 05, 2014 4:43 pm

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It can't be helped. I'm either dram-tunnel-level sure of my reads, or mina-waffle-level unsure of my reads.
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Post Post #2032 (isolation #26) » Thu Mar 06, 2014 8:03 am

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vote: uthydra


still some things i need to look through that ive been too busy to do.
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Post Post #2058 (isolation #27) » Thu Mar 06, 2014 12:45 pm

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In post 2054, ToastyToast wrote:
In post 2035, ToastyToast wrote:
In post 1379, Tammy wrote:
Final Vote Count Day One
Broseidon (7)
a Ampersand
, malakittens,
Medea the alien
, notsicence,
ghatokaca,
bazinga
, mina [LYNCH]

ghatokaca (5) - Osseus pseudotripodis, Broseidon, Hanzo_5, chamber, zdenek
Osseus pseudotripodis (1) - ToastyToast
Not Voting (0):
NOONE
In post 2027, Tammy wrote:
Vote Count 2.20
Osseus pseudotripodis (4) -
Ampersand, ghatokaca, medea the alien, bazinga

ghatokaca (3) - ToastyToast, hanzo_5, notscience
ToastyToast (2) - katsuki, Osseus pseudotripodis
hanzo_5 (1) - malakittens
Not Voting (2):
mina,
I like how this was ignored by everyone. If you are town and seriously can't see the problem with this, then you should have your voting privileges removed. Like Jesus how much clearer does this have to be for you guys to realize that the
same people who fucked up yesterday are going to fuck up again.

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If UT somehow flips town I will sheep you onto nacho. How's that.

If there's one thing I hate about this game, it's that its got too many giant wagons for a game of this size, which makes it hard for me to interptet since I haven't been directly involved in this game from the start.
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Post Post #3374 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:59 pm

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Dead QT?

Also why was I killed N2?
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Post Post #3375 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:59 pm

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*scum QT?
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Post Post #3422 (isolation #30) » Thu May 01, 2014 8:37 am

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I always read you as scum Tammy~ <3

It's fun sometimes to be almost 100% wrong about a player... then you start reading opposite to what you think they are. :P
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