"Flavourless Mafia," Mini 1548!

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Reading, I didn't even get to check in on d1.

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Your question reeks of motor oil, by the way.

What?

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I'm not going to waste time explaining to you all how bad that Windblown wagon was.

Because I could, and I'd really love to.

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Your rubbish gambit is obvious bullshit, Marquis.

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Dude can I just say this game would be very nice if the Mod would check in with us every once in a while to, you know, let us know about things resolving?

It's pretty hard to objectively move on when Marquis is sticking to his guns about daykilling LDD.

Though it's probably an idea to give reads of some sort.

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Marquis, that had literally no pro-Town gain whatsoever except you stalling the game.

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i thought the mod would immediately shut it down but then it didnt happen so i was like "might as well milk this for a few pages then until mod gets here"

partially i wanted to see what people would think of the concept and again kat just seemed to take it for granted, but partially i just felt like i was cheated out of a long and prosperous rvs

I'm going to take it you're not a Doublevoter, no?

What's your theory on what happened?

PEdit: Balls.

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Reads, now.

Unless you're scum in which case you should stay silent and dead.

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Wow, much thanks.

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Romeo save me, they're trying to tell me how to feel
This love is difficult, but it's real
Don't be afraid, we'll make it out of this mess
It's a love story, baby, just say yes

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I hate you ALL.

Ok not really. I like you Uite. And you Chamber.

But the rest of you. FUCK.

Can we like, please fucking kill Kaze tomorrow?

This implies Kaze was Jailkept.

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Let's just out every possible bastard scenario VOTE: [Hammerer]
(IF THIS DOESN'T WORK MY VOTE IS STILL ON KAZE BTW)

No.

gonna try something weird

VOTE: whiskers

No.

Come on, guys, we can hardly vote the fucking mod.

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(hiplop actually contacted me and is still kicking around, so will not be replaced.)

Wait, what? He posted ONLY ONCE the entire game, and that was during RVS. That is THE most hardcore lurking I've ever seen!

I'm really a master of disguise. Nah just literally kept logging on during each phase. Like day one lasted like 10 hours and I logged on like 11 hours :\ was unfortunate timing each time

Okay, question: is the case on Kaze due to the hammer? or is there more to it? even with just the hammer, that was pretty brutal. Should have definitely thought about day 1's debacle

Chamber is almost absolutely town chamber, which is definitely a good thing.

Could it really be lylo already? Man that's intense.

There has got to be scum on the marquis wagon, it just went so damn fast. Sure that dayvig was a complete bonehead move, but it's definitely something town is more likely to fake than scum, and the speed of the wagon is alarming. Also, it is a VERY easy wagon to jump onto.

Marquis (L-0): Lady Lambdadelta, Katarina LeBlanc, DisCode, LeMidget, Kazekirimaru, [HAMMERER].

the fact that the [HAMMERER] is shown to be a different person is kind of weird though? Is it some sort of like sent-in vote? Or is it bastard mod perhaps? Could it be whiskers who is doing the hammering? the way the VC is set up, the latter seems kinda probable.

We know LLD was town (obviously) so that leaves us: Kat, DisCode, Lemidget, and Kazek. Kazek is pretty pushed atm, and I'm scared of bastardizations so wont vote just yet.

I'm having a hard time reading discode and lemidget (going to look back again specifically at them)

It is definitely between kazek and kat though. Kat was pushing marquis pretty hard, and considering marquis could apparently read her well, there definitely seems to be a mens rea there.

Tbh, if i could i would lynch both of them.

Only other scumread I have is FIRE and thats mostly gut

Re the bolded: what exactly do you mean by this?

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Vote: DisCode

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Is that seriously your defense.

We're not scum because it's expected of us to be scumread for making scummy ass plays

I think it's incredibly unfair to implicate the d1 hammerer for an unknown mechanic.

Unless you're implying that it's a player-sent action and not a mechanic.

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Chamber, can you please fucking step up? We could do with your help.

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I totally think the hammerer is auto and not an active ability, btw.

Well, you obviously fucking would?

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But, but, what about DisCode?

Talk to me about him, Kaze.

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Well, Kaze was Town, and you're fucking noosed tomorrow, Flames. That was so forced.

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I honestly don't understand. Just. What.

Kaze's role and flip confirms an SK or something or another mafia faction idk man. His win condition looks like he's just the regular mafia side though so we should probably base his team on those not- on his wagon.

hiplop, Discode, TSO and I.

Discode is ded, so that rounds it up to TSO and hiplop. That being said..
VOTE: hiplop

Interactions + PoE + I cba to entertain a bussing on Kaze wagon.

This is really bad.

Firstly, you're discounting DisCode for no reason other than "he's ded." This makes fuck-all sense. Also, you're automatically

But the worst thing here is how you openly say you're just too lazy to assume that scum weren't bussing. This stinks of lazy and forced.

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whiskerts my vote was on discode, btw

I'm pretty sure this is some sort of townslip, by the way.

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The only one I'm townreading here is Uite. Literally.

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And the main reason for this is that activity is absolutely rubbish.

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I actually read back on hiplop and made an educated guess as to who could possibly be partnered with Kaze outside of a bus then fine. The scum were 2 mislynches in the game and if you think that they're going to bus that and completely go against their win condition then I don't think you understand what mafia are supposed to do.

Your thinking isn't on the right track.

I want you to go back to the end of d2 and see what the reactions about Kaze were. Go on, do it. I'll even do it for you.

Spoiler: Thoughts of Kaze at d2 end

Kaze and Avatar dude suspect.

Can we like, please fucking kill Kaze tomorrow?

Not one person defended Kaze. This is a situation where Kaze goes to his QT or whatever scum have and says "Hey, I'm fucked, get your cred off me tomorrow because I'm going down." Kaze is a good player - he saw his death was imminent. I find it hard to believe you didn't take this into account whatsoever.

The hammerer think I'd assume was either something passive or an anonymous voter. If it were scumsided, Kaze would not be hammered at all. So it's either a townie who actively caused us mislynches (which I think is just stupid) or an SK/Alternate faction.

And then we get to the most important question of all in your theory.

Who is the Serial Killer, and where's their kill?

Unless you're suggesting that the Serial Killer's win condition is based on hammering lynches or something..

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k.

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We had a chance for a while. I think I have the ability to shift Katarina, and maaaybe Uite, but DOMO rapefucked us hard.

The worst thing was me, and hiplop especially, got pegged on something which didn't even matter. Especially hiplop.

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Yeah. Literally, we got buttfucked for basically abstaining.

Annoying, because we were really going well.

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Would we have won if that hadn't happened?

I genuinely think we could have.

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and we could quickhammer with hammerer vote

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and we could quickhammer with hammerer vote

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There -was- no LyLo.

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I don't think so, even though Kat was very good this game.

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Look at my trajectory, I'm simultaneously introducing a possible SK and moving her away from hippy.

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Oh, and you did that thing where you complained about lurkers, and that backs hiplop too.

UGH

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Flames seems scummy as hell, but his hammer of kaze is also something that had me question that read. But that could be a bus, seeing as kaze was fucked at that stage and flames hadn't really pushed kaze all that much at that point.

lemidget and hiplop are both possible scums.

So I'm looking at kat, flames, lemidget and hiplop.

Quotes from DOMO there, proving we weren't trapped.

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I'm sorry I'm sounding so bitter guys, I just feel we were essentially done on luck. It's like I replaced into a game Whiskers modded and someone said that usually scum replace out of Whiskers' games, therefore I'm scum.

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Looking back neutrally, it's actually incredible DOMO managed to pull that.

Someone get this man a medal.

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And considering that you KNEW the role wasn't actually as described in the wiki, you could have pushed that angle pretty convincingly, I'd think.

But what could I have said, Uite? "What if the role that's doing the hammering isn't a Hammerer as described! How do I know this? Call it a hunch..."

It would have been an incredibly hard angle to push anyway, but with everyone semi-hunting for our blood at that stage...

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