Mini 1552 - Paranoia [GAME OVER]
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Why no vote?In post 310, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Hey MuffinMan.
I'm gonna say this once. Basically, you're scum, but in the unlikely scenario you flip town (and I mean very unlikely) the only person to blame is yourself and your own shitty play.
But don't worry, you're pretty clearly scum here, so you just got outplayed ^_^/.
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I just fucking subbed in.In post 311, zMuffinMan wrote:@mtd
lld and guyett's slot contributions to the game so far have been votes on me and nothing else - thus useless
but i think it's unlikely they're scum with greyice - which is why i'd only look at them if greyice flips town
if you're town, you're very bad at this gamelld wrote:the only person to blame is yourself and your own shitty play
what do you expect me to have done?
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...and?In post 314, zMuffinMan wrote:i was talking more about NS than you
but you've done nothing either
you obviously think i'm scum (hence the vote remaining) - that is your sole contribution to the game
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I wanted to lol hammer him to give myself time to read... then I remembered the last time I lol hammered and he was very pissed off with me for doing it.
That wasn't in response to your case, I hadn't read it at all.
That wasn't in response to your case, I hadn't read it at all.
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1) that was his first post since page 1 or something. Since when is a lol vote scummy? Do you apply the same reasoning for people voting for mods?In post 277, GreyICE wrote:More or less in summary:In post 274, Guyett wrote:explain the case on muffin pls
1) He started the game late and voting for someone who isn't a player and can't be voted for.
2) When put under pressure he reacted by throwing a temper tantrum and ranting at us that we were literally the worst players in the world because we thought he was scummy.
3) When he actually decided to push the case on me that I'm scum (rather than throwing a fit and complaining about how bad we were for voting him) he did it assuming that I'm a THIRD PARTY LYNCHER, not mafia.
4) Frankly he's probably spent more time lecturing us that the Police are anti-town and searching for lurkers than he has actually scumhunting.
I'm sure there will shortly be a post telling you that I have no case, that I'm misrepresenting everything he's said, that I'm a liar, that I'm a terrible player and that even if I'm town I'm so bad you shouldn't feel bad if you mislynch me, you can check any of the past bunch of pages for the general details on how that will look.
That help?
2) not alignment indicative. If you put forward a shit case on me I'm gonna call you shit
3) where?
4) where?
its just a terrible case
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In post 379, GreyICE wrote:Hey MTDIn post 378, zMuffinMan wrote:this is what unlynchable was referring to btw
i used the word unlynchable because it's easier than saying "don't count towards the alive population"
I want you to say, on record, that it makes sense that he used "unlynchable" as a shorthand for "doesn't count towards the alive population"
And not from Antihero's post #48 where the moderator clearly states he's unlynchable.
This is the post in question by the way.
Guyett, same question.In post 191, zMuffinMan wrote:i hadn't read the threaddopog wrote:@muffin why vote empking after pI did?
it was late, couldn't be bothered reading,saw OP, saw he was "unlynchable" in a bastard game, figured i'd see what happens, voted, went to sleep.
Don't even know what you're getting at here
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In post 389, Garmr wrote:unskilled or opportunistic scumIn post 346, MTD wrote:@ Garmr: Do you still think Kovara is scum?
You said you don't agree with the Muffin wagon, if the reasons for it are bad, what about those willing to hop on it?
I should really just do a list of my town reads after through as this game is really getting paranoid as fuck
Lets take a look at the people who voted or want to vote
Grey ice-He seems to be paranoid as fuck his not acting like his usual sane self town or scum. So I really don't know how to handle him as a lot of the shit his cases have been null and one or two points a little have a tiniest bit of merit at best. I don't know what to make of him so I'm leaving him unrated
Dessew-at first I thought he was a vi but his hop onto the muffin wagon was a little more suss and his action send a couple of shivers down my spine. Through I think he could just be a vi because of mara's actions but I'll put him as null scum.
Guyyet-He makes me face palm and his a null read. Didn't this post here eitherPrivate-null-scum he just doesn't seem to give two fucks about this game.In post 351, Guyett wrote:I wanted to lol hammer him to give myself time to read... then I remembered the last time I lol hammered and he was very pissed off with me for doing it.
That wasn't in response to your case, I hadn't read it at all.
LLD-Little reasoning to be on the muffin wagon I could not find one solid case to actually get on it null-scum
Now for the person who showed interest in the wagon yet didn't hop on
The scummy as fuck mara/kovara
So to rehash
1.Going for low hanging fruitIn post 159, Kovara wrote:(if anyone hasn't noticed, Dessew and Dopog are both obviously scum)
2.the preferred role thing she was incomplete with only one question and needed a couple of questions to get good result I feel she would of knew this. This is onlya minor peeve through and not enough to vote her on it's own.
3.In post 177, Kovara wrote:(does not have a case on Dopog)In post 165, MTD wrote:Also he made pretty stupid cases on Dessew and dopog, that are illogical at best.
not one that is visible at least, for all you know I could be thinking he is bad because he is a dog and I am a cat and we are always fighting!
this does prove, though that you aren't really reading my posts and are assuming that I have actually made cases
I don't really even have one presented on Dessew, but hey what I do have is top notch!Like I mentioned these two post before you were trying to deny you had made any case on depog at all and I feel this a major scum point as she is deflecting and denying something she posted.In post 103, Kovara wrote:Dopog- I don't like his reluctance to answer a simple question, overly paranoid as if he is scared that I might use this information against him... something that is almost exclusive to scum and has been reactive thus far. very likely scum
NOW HERE'S THE KICKER
she's been attacking people on the muffin wagon
In post 246, Kovara wrote:another vulture!In post 233, PrivateI wrote:I'm actually getting sold on GreyICE's "tell". It's something that I've seen, and quite honestly, done in off-site games. Is it conclusive? No.
With that in mind, and with the promise of future, more in-depth examinations of Muffin and shos specifically,
VOTE: Muffin
...In post 236, Dessew wrote:The wagon on Muffin makes sense to me now, with these explanations both from Greyice and Lambdadelta told. I'm posting from my phone, and I won't look up the votes now, if it's L-1, consider this to be anintent to hammer. I still don't like Korava, but we have time for that.
Shos: have you tried unvoting?
so many uncublike words running through my head
that doesn't work because you stated it after he explained it you silly lion youIn post 245, shos wrote:Also..In post 228, shos wrote: for example, I now kinda think that you are a third party jester. that is precisely the tell that you said only mafia do. and you..you fit to TWO possible third parties by now - a lyncher for Muffin, and a jester; I don't see how you're going up town and muffin's scum.In post 247, Kovara wrote:I am also not at all fond of lynching anyone before the (what I assume to be) the major mechanic gets to come into play. I think cops are a pro-town faction, kinda
and, all I see is a flailing muffin, and I'm not really fond of most of his scum-tells at all. like, honestly, I think LLD's scum-muffin points are more alluring than Grey's one
Privates vote, and Dessew's vote in spirit are really turning me offThis to me is her staying off the wagon. She seems to know he will flip town and it echos through her voice yet she keeps the option to jump to hammer if times running out. She is also setting up her votes for the next day or if the wagons falling apart. She seems to me like the typical scum off wagon.In post 332, Kovara wrote:In post 330, zMuffinMan wrote:
kovara wrote:
This, is what I agree with.
what specifically do you agree with?
Everything except the last phrase, though I resonate a whole lot more with the first sentence than anything else there. It makes sense, and it gives a little bit of what your mindset could be but that's pretty much it.
it's weak, though and there is quite a bit of burden of proficiency, though it is still a whole lot better than what grey has given. I'm not going to join your wagon, as I'm much more interested in my scum-spects, and what sho's would have to say when he come back from interrogation (if he comes back at all)
and, there is the fact that the only people that I like are LLD and Grey. everyone else is super duper sketchy
tldr version:
Greyice - unrated
Dessew - null scum
Guyett - null scum
private - null scum
LLD - null scum
Kovara - SCUMSCUMSCUMSCUM
THATS A LOT OF FUCKING SCUM!!!
Also how lazy is that greyice read... were you afraid of reading another person as null scum?!?
Also a lot of your reasons for people being scum are shit
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Pls explain where I have done anything to you to warrant thid kind of behaviour.In post 408, Garmr wrote:The person you were being a dick to may of forgiven you but I sure haven't.
Will you act like this to ETL too?
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But I didn't do anything to offend you in particular.In post 419, Garmr wrote:Had to hear all about it through
I have apologised to Mollie about things and she has accepted my apology.
Why is it your business and what gives you the right to attack me like that.
YOU ARE ONLY MAKING THINGS WORSE BY DRAGGING IT BACK UP AGAIN!!!
Are more of Mollies hydra partners going to attack me like this and make themselves involved in something they had nothing to do with?
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In post 420, shos wrote: Gyette, explain whybthey are.
In post 406, Guyett wrote:In post 389, Garmr wrote:unskilled or opportunistic scumIn post 346, MTD wrote:@ Garmr: Do you still think Kovara is scum?
You said you don't agree with the Muffin wagon, if the reasons for it are bad, what about those willing to hop on it?
I should really just do a list of my town reads after through as this game is really getting paranoid as fuck
Lets take a look at the people who voted or want to vote
Grey ice-He seems to be paranoid as fuck his not acting like his usual sane self town or scum. So I really don't know how to handle him as a lot of the shit his cases have been null and one or two points a little have a tiniest bit of merit at best. I don't know what to make of him so I'm leaving him unrated
Paranoia here would indicate he is town. I found leaving him unrated a major cop-out compared to the rest of the reads in this post
Dessew-at first I thought he was a vi but his hop onto the muffin wagon was a little more suss and his action send a couple of shivers down my spine. Through I think he could just be a vi because of mara's actions but I'll put him as null scum.
Null scum with a very heavy lean on scum would be my interpretation of this read
Guyyet-He makes me face palm and his a null read. Didn't this post here eitherPrivate-null-scum he just doesn't seem to give two fucks about this game.In post 351, Guyett wrote:I wanted to lol hammer him to give myself time to read... then I remembered the last time I lol hammered and he was very pissed off with me for doing it.
That wasn't in response to your case, I hadn't read it at all.
By saying you're privately reading me as null scum indicates you're reading me as null scum..
You say in a following post that "But you got one wrong I didn't see you as scum I just thought you are a pretty bad player. "... but that contradicts what you said here.
Not giving 2 fucks is usually a light town tell on most players imo
LLD-Little reasoning to be on the muffin wagon I could not find one solid case to actually get on it null-scum
I'd go null here rather than null scum, there are other players that are scummier and if they flip scum re-evaluate this read
Now for the person who showed interest in the wagon yet didn't hop on
The scummy as fuck mara/kovara
So to rehash
1.Going for low hanging fruitIn post 159, Kovara wrote:(if anyone hasn't noticed, Dessew and Dopog are both obviously scum)
2.the preferred role thing she was incomplete with only one question and needed a couple of questions to get good result I feel she would of knew this. This is onlya minor peeve through and not enough to vote her on it's own.
3.In post 177, Kovara wrote:(does not have a case on Dopog)In post 165, MTD wrote:Also he made pretty stupid cases on Dessew and dopog, that are illogical at best.
not one that is visible at least, for all you know I could be thinking he is bad because he is a dog and I am a cat and we are always fighting!
this does prove, though that you aren't really reading my posts and are assuming that I have actually made cases
I don't really even have one presented on Dessew, but hey what I do have is top notch!Like I mentioned these two post before you were trying to deny you had made any case on depog at all and I feel this a major scum point as she is deflecting and denying something she posted.In post 103, Kovara wrote:Dopog- I don't like his reluctance to answer a simple question, overly paranoid as if he is scared that I might use this information against him... something that is almost exclusive to scum and has been reactive thus far. very likely scum
NOW HERE'S THE KICKER
she's been attacking people on the muffin wagon
In post 246, Kovara wrote:another vulture!In post 233, PrivateI wrote:I'm actually getting sold on GreyICE's "tell". It's something that I've seen, and quite honestly, done in off-site games. Is it conclusive? No.
With that in mind, and with the promise of future, more in-depth examinations of Muffin and shos specifically,
VOTE: Muffin
...In post 236, Dessew wrote:The wagon on Muffin makes sense to me now, with these explanations both from Greyice and Lambdadelta told. I'm posting from my phone, and I won't look up the votes now, if it's L-1, consider this to be anintent to hammer. I still don't like Korava, but we have time for that.
Shos: have you tried unvoting?
so many uncublike words running through my head
that doesn't work because you stated it after he explained it you silly lion youIn post 245, shos wrote:Also..In post 228, shos wrote: for example, I now kinda think that you are a third party jester. that is precisely the tell that you said only mafia do. and you..you fit to TWO possible third parties by now - a lyncher for Muffin, and a jester; I don't see how you're going up town and muffin's scum.In post 247, Kovara wrote:I am also not at all fond of lynching anyone before the (what I assume to be) the major mechanic gets to come into play. I think cops are a pro-town faction, kinda
and, all I see is a flailing muffin, and I'm not really fond of most of his scum-tells at all. like, honestly, I think LLD's scum-muffin points are more alluring than Grey's one
Privates vote, and Dessew's vote in spirit are really turning me offThis to me is her staying off the wagon. She seems to know he will flip town and it echos through her voice yet she keeps the option to jump to hammer if times running out. She is also setting up her votes for the next day or if the wagons falling apart. She seems to me like the typical scum off wagon.In post 332, Kovara wrote:In post 330, zMuffinMan wrote:
kovara wrote:
This, is what I agree with.
what specifically do you agree with?
Everything except the last phrase, though I resonate a whole lot more with the first sentence than anything else there. It makes sense, and it gives a little bit of what your mindset could be but that's pretty much it.
it's weak, though and there is quite a bit of burden of proficiency, though it is still a whole lot better than what grey has given. I'm not going to join your wagon, as I'm much more interested in my scum-spects, and what sho's would have to say when he come back from interrogation (if he comes back at all)
and, there is the fact that the only people that I like are LLD and Grey. everyone else is super duper sketchy
I like this case
tldr version:
Greyice - unrated
Dessew - null scum
Guyett - null scum
private - null scum
LLD - null scum
Kovara - SCUMSCUMSCUMSCUM
THATS A LOT OF FUCKING SCUM!!!
Also how lazy is that greyice read... were you afraid of reading another person as null scum?!?
Also a lot of your reasons for people being scum are shit
Basically I disagreed with the read list from the start of the post. It looked shitty and lazy. Kovara case is actually quite good
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they think 2 scum are left and that dopog could be scum with maraIn post 544, shos wrote:Guyette, ask as much as you can. Id like to know their opinion about how many scums are left, and if theybthink ms marascum is possible with dessews iso.
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Apparently notIn post 547, shos wrote:My assumption is that the cops will join the game in lylo or after it or something, or, that one of them is scum, and they will enter the game after 2 scum are down
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that was expectedIn post 614, Antihero wrote:Well, mastin, you're going to be spending some quality time with AP anyway.
mastin2 has been called in for interrogation. He'll be back in 36 hours.
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In post 673, jon_h61 wrote:I can understand the emotions behind this post, but guyett's early playIn post 313, Guyett wrote:I just fucking subbed in.what do you expect me to have done?islacking.
Guyett's posts are mostly one liners. I'm not seeing Town motivation in the questions he's asking. In a recently finished game with Anka, he did something similar. Safe one liners, then coming on all offended when someone asked a question, or expressed suspicion. He was scum.
There isn't all that much to comment on, his posts are fluffy. I'm not seeing him doing anything to firm up any of his scum reads. He has quite a few.
The latter half of Guyett's ISO looks better, but I want to go back and read his posts within the context they were written. I'll have questions for Guyett, I'm sure.
Null for now.
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Scum is within this group { jonh_61, Ms Marangal, Lady Lambdadelta, dopog}
Not 100% comfortable with calling MTD and Shos town yet
mastin2 and GreyICE are my biggest town reads
Not 100% comfortable with calling MTD and Shos town yet
mastin2 and GreyICE are my biggest town reads
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How is Mastin townier since your last read list... she hasn't fucking posted since thenIn post 702, dopog wrote:Clarifying; Mastin townier because we are reading the game in a big picture/reads on all players sense kinda similar
Gotta go probably be an hour and a bit till next post
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When did I say that?In post 710, dopog wrote:Also from what you're saying you think scum was off the dessew wagon?
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In post 741, jon_h61 wrote:I was going to grill Ms.Mara when Today started. I don't understand why scum NK'd her, I thought she looked pretty scummy.
@ Guyette Yesterday you had Shos as scum IIRC. Do you still think he is?
pedit @ Guyette What's the scum read on me for?
I had shos as null with a heavy town lean
You're null alongside MTD but that first part of this quote has given you a big shunt into scum pile
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In post 676, Guyett wrote:Scum is within this group { jonh_61, Ms Marangal, Lady Lambdadelta, dopog}
Not 100% comfortable with calling MTD and Shos town yet
mastin2 and GreyICE are my biggest town reads
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