Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[Toogeloo]

Vote: No Lynch

I am scum and trying to push a mislynch.

I didn't see you in the QT.

[Toogeloo]

Guess I better bus.

Unvote;
Vote: Aegor

[Toogeloo]

Vote: sekai no ki.Because I'm a rebel and Aegor is obviously town. You can random wagon him all you'd like, it's all fun and games and such, but I'd prefer to actually have a random vote that's got a chance of being serious.

So doesn't that make it, "not random?"

[Toogeloo]

Guess I better bus.

Unvote;
Vote: Aegor

Might as well name the rest of your buddies, since you're in a confessional mood.

I think I saw chesskid and DGB in there. Dunno, wasn't really paying

that

much attention.

[Toogeloo]

Unvote;
Vote: Rubicon

As for the mechanic, it's my opinion that if you are a VT, just submit your own choices and screw what everyone else thinks. Only town has control of the mechanic, so to try and take control of it from those people means you don't trust them and are willing to allow scum to influence their choices.

[Toogeloo]

##vote:

I've seen this format elsewhere.

[Toogeloo]

Where else do you play Pidgey?

[Toogeloo]

You are reading the mod's info in the most rose-colored way possible if you believe scum won't be given at least one if not more tools to influence the horde.

There is no indication what so ever that scum would have any influence.

First off, people with the Horde Mentality have to pick three names. Of these three names, the host randomly ousts two of them. Then he tallies the names up and the one with the most gets killed. It's practically random in and of itself.

Everyone with the Horde Mentality could put "Toogeloo" down as one of their choices, but if I get ousted from every list, I am not dying. It's just too random of a situation to think that scum would have a power to influence it at this stage.

And furthermore, even if you believe that scum have a way to manipulate the horde, why are you condoning actually giving them more information to work with in order to better utilize said ability?

[Toogeloo]

At the end of the day, I'm not overly concerned about the way you guys want to handle the VT thing. Either A) I'm not VT and it doesn't apply to me any ways and I probably don't any control over what you guys choose to do, or B) I am VT and would just use my ability the way I want anyways because screw herd mentality and giving scum info.

Like seriously. What if the Mafia have a Horde Protection ability? If we include one of their members in a list, of course they will use protection on that one player. The mechanic itself seems too random to have any abilities directly influence it, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least if there are ways to protect against it.

I played TWD if you remember, and players had a "Hide" ability that protected them from being killed by zombies. If <i>anything</i> made it into the game from the previous, I would say protection from Zombie kills did.

[Toogeloo]

Oh, and Pidgey, you don't happen to play on GameFAQs for your other Mafia site, do you?

[Toogeloo]

uh, did we lose posts?

[Toogeloo]

Unvote;
Vote: Red Coyote

[Toogeloo]

What makes you think I still don't want your lynch?

Bulba was the only person who even glanced at my vote (other than you), meaning no one really cared about it.

Switching gears now.

[Toogeloo]

By the way, the reason your iso is shit to me is that all you do is make little side commentary and ask little questions without resolutions. You haven't posited any theories in regards to those questions, and your scum hunting is essentially, "Yup, this person is scum!"

[Toogeloo]

"This post is a scum-claim."

"This hardly seems like something you would say."

"Shouldn't you be doing the opposite of voting them them? It just seems like you've lost your mind. I mean why are you helping them to not be here tomorrow?"

"Who is this?"

"You should probably just vote him for now, and trust that good things will happen."

"Something (over-)confident or (over-)aggressive. You must know this about yourself."

"Bulbazak, you don't feel confident or aggressive because Mastin called you an a-hole?"

"I'm more worried about Mastin not picking up on your sarcasm."

"Mastin demanding that people explain their town read on him doesn't seem genuine. He often gets town reads on people for fairly weak reasons, and kind of doubt that he didn't understand why SNK would have a town read on him."

"Bulba is probably scum."

"He claimed?"

"There is no claim in Bulba's ISO."

"I don't want to talk about the mechanic too much just yet."

"AP, SCB3, are hitting nice notes. Aegor, BBmolla, look town."

"Did you even explain your read on Vezok?"

"Where's the game and what is your point?"



Plus there was the comment about Sven looking like Caught Scum.


This is the entirety of your iso (that is available) when I voted you. It just goes on like this. Little side commentaries and fluff questions filled with lots of quote blocks. It's the type of content that scum do to look active.

[Toogeloo]

As a whole, yes.

[Toogeloo]

What is your problem with this?

"Mastin demanding that people explain their town read on him doesn't seem genuine. He often gets town reads on people for fairly weak reasons, and kind of doubt that he didn't understand why SNK would have a town read on him."

Are you really trying to defend your entire iso because of the one post that actually looks like content?

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Nope. It just sprung out to me as something that shouldn't have been on your list.

This is the entirety of your iso

I wasn't kidding.

And all you did was justify the posts for the reason you made them, when my issue is with

the way

that you actually aren't backing up anything and just posting a bunch of nothing important en masse.

[Toogeloo]

You're guilty of very asymmetrical scum hunting here.

So I can't say I don't like your posts as a whole simply because one post in the bunch is ok?

[Toogeloo]

You're guilty of very asymmetrical scum hunting here.

So I can't say I don't like your posts as a whole simply because one post in the bunch is ok?

No, I think you are calling me scum for something that many people are doing.

Yours is what stuck to me. Don't be butt hurt. No one else's spotty posting has pinged my radar in the same manner. It's Day 1, gut rules, and you hurt my gut.

[Toogeloo]

Unvote;
Vote: Alpazard

[Toogeloo]

prod received...

...applying anti-mod lubricant...



After a long work week, it's kind of draining to come back to so many posts. Skimming through, will have an opinion in a bit.

[Toogeloo]

Amalgamated Reads.

Each player is listed in the highest grouping that one of us has them as. The other head's read is noted. The list is not seriatim.

TOWNTOWNTOWN

GIF
Zdenek

Town

RedCoyote - fferyllt has him in "maybe town"
Rubicon
BBMolla - fferyllt has him in "maybe town"
Pidgey
AngryPidgeon - pieguyn has him in "maybe town"
Svenskt - pieguyn has him in "maybe town"
Majiffy - pieguyn has him in "can't read"
Pidgey - fferyllt has him in "maybe town"

Maybe Town

SweatingChessball
Aegor
ActionDan
dopog
Nero Cain
Bulbazak - pieguy has him in "not so town"
Mastin - pieguyn has her in "not so town"
Thor - neither of us are very confident we can read him at all, and would have created a hellifino pile but atm Thor would be the only inhabitant of that pile. ffery think Thor looks less manipulative than he did in WD.

Not So Town

Vezok - ffery's townlean wore off
PeregrineV
Alpazard

Where am I?

In constrast, the Apla wagon has both GiF and sekai on it. It is scum-driven.

I seriously hope this isn't the only reason you're townreading Alpa.
Look. I'm not gonna even bother convincing you that I'm town. If you wanna scumread me for not giving you the attention you want oh so much, then go ahead.

But are you seriously calling notsci town
Even after all the scumclaim he made
Just because of the shoddy "vca without flip"
You're ignoring all the scum-notsci reaction

That's just fucked up
But I still think you're town
Open your eyes
See the truth behind the curtain

Why am I mad all the sudden
Dunno. The frustration is just killing me

I read this as a poem from a hipster in a coffee shop.


On a quick skim...

Leaning scum on SweatingScumball for feigned laziness.
Leaning scum on RedCoyote for wall posting after being voted, and then inactivity after being unvoted.
Leaning I Hate You on Zdenek since I really don't like his posts, but everyone else doesn't care.
Town reads on everyone on the Alpazard wagon, thus willing to continue sheeping.
Town read on mastin2 for some odd reason (gut).
Who's ActionDan?

Vote stays.

[Toogeloo]

blatant prod dodge is blatant.

Anyone want to dutch rudder with me? It'd be more exciting than what's currently going on in the thread.

[Toogeloo]

@Mod: I'm sorry, but I need to replace out of all my current games. Too much going on in Real Life preventing me from keeping up with playing Mafia, which is causing me to become apathetic to the games I am in.