Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

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vote rubicon

He OMGUSed mastin with only 3 voets on him and still in RVS. That seems like scum over-reacting.

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Oh, and for the people I haven't played with before.
I'm Thor, and I am either charmingly sarcastic and witty...or a sociopath.
Opinions vary.

Also, everyone who claimed scum already is a bad player.
Just saying.
Work on that.

Yay thor. The guy we need to sheep to get a win.

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mastin seems mastin to me at the moment, dunno why everyone is afraid when mastin mastins. Its annoying yes, but not necessary scum at the moment.

Hi thor.

##vote: vezok

Some of his comments strike me the wrong way and his vote on rubicon seems weak

Where are you AP ;_;

My vote feels weak?
That is like the best thing I heard all day. Next time I'll do a case from only RVS posts.

Hey!

I'm feeling g about nero, guyinfreezer and toog.

@Bulba

What don't you like?

Eh kinda the early posts reads as if you are mafia trying to wade into the game with kinda semi-jokey posts;

Why so serious?

Vote Mastin2

The whody what now?

Crippling insecurities.

Especially the first one cause you don't really seem to want to follow up on the vote.

But then pretty sure #174 is geniune - regarding it: thinking over whether that actually is indicitave of alignment or not just because seen people get burned by the "I'm not happy with my game" card.

unvote
vote PeregrineV

@Rubicon: Ok cause I just don't get it: Why #108? ...

@BBMolla: What do you think of PV, AP and Zdenek?

Cya later

This guy is town.

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This guy is town.

Reeeeaaaaaalllllly want an explanation of that.

That post was the towniest post I've read in the whole thread.

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He asks questions. He actually tries to think of othe rposibilities except Rubicon.
He gives a few reads. All in all I see that post coming from a very townie mindset.

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vote majiffy

Still scum.

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and if you could sum up your scum read on majiffy that would be dandy

When the posts come back I will try to do this.
Strong town reads: mastin and dopog.
Townish : Toog.

As for everybody else I haven't made an opinion just yet.

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what makes dopog town

also you should be able from memory say what you didnt like regardning majiffy

It was a gut read. I mean I read and I thought it was scummy cause of something that rubbed me the wrong way. I don't remember what exactly.

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chooo chooo

I read what majiffy posted and my gut said scum. In a day 1 I don't have a lot of stuff to go on so I go with what my gut tells me.
I never manage to sway a town with any case I make so I'm rarely doing that. What I do is remember what people I found scummy and what people I found town. Sometimes I can have concrete reasons that I can explain, other times I have a gut feel that is really hard to explain.

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Dead serious: vezok is a more subtle version of me. (This isn't something I was aware of before this game, but having seen it now, I'm certain of it.)

I don't really understand what you mean.

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if it is just a "hey this feels off, i am voting you" then i dont see the revote making sense

it is more likely that his read isnt genuine and that he became caught in it

I was the first post on the wagon. I am not sure how you think I got caught in my read.
I mean I would've been already caught in it just because I voted him.
Seriously, your reasoning doesn't make sense to me.

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Well he can't exactly quote Majiffy posts right now can he?

People are varying degrees of involved in the game. Like MafiaSSK tends to lurk 100% of the time, for instance. Not remembering EXACTLY why Majiffy is scummy isn't a scumtell? He remembered he thought Majiffy was scum and voted him.

Your point -might- make sense if Vezok had actually written a case on Majiffy and subsequently forgotten it. But forgetting what about Majiffy's string of herpaderp was scummy exactly means that he isn't reaching for reasons to justify himself. He called it a gut scumread. Thats not much different than people quoting posts and saying "gut" and voting them. Except this time there are no posts to quote any more.

What is your read on bulbazak?

If it actually was a specific post or post, then no he cant qoute, but i feel strongly that he should be able to give the cliffnotes, without the post, like if it was the wording or a bad read or all the excuses.

bulbla is growing on me

You feel strongly that I should be able to give out cliffnotes. I can guarantee you I can't.

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people keep saying that

I don't care what other people say. I said that

I

don't understand your reasoning. Please explain in such a way that I would understand.

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people keep saying that

I don't care what other people say. I said that

I

don't understand your reasoning. Please explain in such a way that I would understand.

i have restated what i dont understand and dont like about your vote in the thread, read it

So helpful.

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@RC: I've played some games with thor. When he is town I've seen him crush scum. I've played with him as scum also and I've seen him play incredibly.
My post was a joke and not intended to be taken seriously.
Also Thor has his own way of making people sheep him.

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Mastin: I don't think Sven is scum. Read his posts. He is way too cocky and proud to be scum. If he was scum he'd think in another way.

like how do you forget WHY you vote someone?

IT CANT BE A STRONG READ???

Just look at this post. It's a townie tunneling. In his mind I am scum and he doesn't understand why people don't see that too.

Majiffy on the other hand is the scummiest player still alive.

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@zdenek: About sven: it's not meta. It's juet how I feel about him.

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I'd be willing to OMGUS-lynch DGB today. Her reason for voting me is pretty bad.

Lynching DGB day is useless. She shows her true colors later on and it's pretty easy to see scum DGB.

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As in, I find your posts not overly-aggressive. I do have some twitches on seeing no aggression at all, but I'm counting that on you just being lazy regardless of your alignment.

Didn't we just go over about how my aggressiveness, lack thereof, laziness, etc. is neither a towntell nor a scumtell? Jesus.

Whatever, I'll let it ride for a while.

I'm going to put my vote here for now:

VOTE: majiffy

u r dum dum

You quitting pussy.

The first post illustrates how Majiffy says that his aggressiveness or lack of it is not a tell.
Then as a self conscious scum he starts getting very aggressive to the point of calling someone a pussy.
This thing strikes me the wrong way.
This is what I can put into words right now.

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DGB comes in and gains some scummy points. She is voting AP, but says Majiffy is scum and will wagon maybe. What she's doing is basically leaving options open until she decides to jump on the wagon.

Also Alpacazard might be scum seeing Sven counterwagon rising up again.

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care to join me on dopog?

Why won't you join me in a Vezok stringing-uping-and-hanging-from-the-trees?

Cause town doesn't join wagons when scum asks for it.

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Actually Majiffy is town.

Ya thanks but I figured this one out first. Feel free to get dunked by Zombie Hoard tonight though.

Ok so its literally just Sekai, DGB, Vezok, and 2 other people who can wait until D4.

UNVOTE: whoever I was voting; VOTE: Vezok

Mastin stop pooing on this wagon plz.

Up until now I could not read you at all.
This post just strikes me the wrong way. You are not misguided townie like sven is. You are scum that is pushing an easy wagon (in your mind) cause now you have the support of your scumbuddy majiffy.

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I think you may be scum, too.

Vezok is town. He's totally not self-conscious. That's not scum.

Much to his credit, he's reading AngryPigeon correctly as scum.

Forget majiffy today. Let's lynch ap.

unvote
Vote angrypigeon

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Up until now I could not read you at all.
This post just strikes me the wrong way. You are not misguided townie like sven is. You are scum that is pushing an easy wagon (in your mind) cause now you have the support of your scumbuddy majiffy.

I nearly died laughing. You're not even trying to hide your alignment anymore.

Why would I try to hide my alignment?

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Vezok, why do you think that you can read DGB?

I don't. When she's town she has good reads. When she is scum she busses. Win-win. Also AP is a fishy.

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hmmm?

She shows her true colors later on and it's pretty easy to see scum DGB.

I thought you meant day 1.
Later you see how she interacted with dead people. If she is still alive day 3 and her reads where mostly bullshit she is probably scum. If her reads where spot on with maybe 1 wrong she is probably town and the scum are dumb enough to let her survive till then.

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Vezok seems bad and in particular the "Why would I have to hide my alignment?" felt like someone trying to pretend they are town. I mean seriously, no one is THAT dumb that they can't understand Majiffy was just calling them scum there.

Seriously? You take that as a scum tell?
Either you are a bad at seeing scum tells or you are just flinging mud at me. I believe it's the latter.

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Seriously? You take that as a scum tell?
Either you are a bad at seeing scum tells or you are just flinging mud at me. I believe it's the latter.

Yes I do. Lets break this down so all the 5 year olds can be comprehending it.

Town has no reason to hide their alignment.
Scum do.

I don't think anybody doesn't realize this (feel free to raise your hand in shame if Im wrong).

Majiffy saying you aren't even hiding your alignment anymore is just a cheap potshot that translates to "Vezok is obviously scum guys".

You posting "But why would I have to obscure my alignment" in response to this is just -whiff- right over your head. I have a really hard time believing you got lost in Majiffy's words or otherwise missed thtat he is just calling you a scumbutt offhandedly.

Your response doesn't accomplish anything and it looks like you are trying to imply you are town. And really the only way you are town here is if you really didn't comprehend that Majiffy was calling you scum and had nothing else attached to that statement. I don't think your ass is that dumb, consider this a compliment.

I was saying it in the sense that town doesn't need to hide their alignment so why would I need to hide it?
It might be a second language thing cause in my head it makes sense.

He said: "You aren't trying to hide your alignment"
And I said: "Why would I ever try to do that?"

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@Vezok: No, I understand exactly. Your response is a roundabout way of saying "I have no need to hide my alignment because I'm town", except you managed to phrase a question out of it to which Majiffy's only response is going to be "because you are scum" which tells you nothing. This sort of thing often comes from scum who want to imply they are town w/o outright saying it (Thor when he rolls scum).

Oh I see.
I actually asked that question thinking of the follow up: Town don't need to hide their alignment, but you wouldn't know that cause you are scum.
I didn't phrase cause I thought it was obvious.

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Why the fuck people have me as scummiest read and not voting me? Is there something I haven't been informed about?

My read on majiffy has improved just because of that. Also what's with pv wagon?

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I wasn't referring to wagons. I was talking about who we're thinking about voting and how strongly we're thinking about them.

What's wrong with a Vezok lynch?

Lynching town is never good.

Look at my ISO and tell me what posts do you feel come from a scum mindset.

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I'll claim to stop this bullshit wagon on me.
I'm the female boomer. Instead of sending 3 people to the list I can send only one. There may be more people that have my role.

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Bulba is town.
Yes I can send either 3 or 1.

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Bulba tell me what else I am being called so you can get comf town status.
It starts with H.

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Bulba tell me what else I am being called so you can get comf town status.
It starts with H.

You do not start with the letter H unless there are multiples of the same infected

You have no idea what we are talking about.

@Sven: The way Bulba asked the question practically shows that he knows how my role is worded. I really doubt he is scum with my role as a fakeclaim.

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Also knowing that roles like mine exist we should make a list with three people, but one of them ranked higher than the others. That way we can control the ability better.

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If you're claiming to be an infected That Starts with The Letter h than yes I do know what I'm talking about

I already claimed Boomer. Please pay attention.
What starts with H is my role.
Are you just scum or very very bad town?

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Select another sacrifice.

VOTE: Nero cain

I'd vote thor but really that won't happen today

ITT we find out that Dan is scum with SCB.

unvote
vote ActionDan

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ActionDan claimed Hunter for all those not paying attention.
I have no idea why people immediately assumed his claim is true. If anyone wants to step up for a counterclaim now is the chance.

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I was keeping my end of the deal.

but you made that deal with your scum read.

I kinda hinted that my read on them was flipping by giving them a second chance.

What made it flip?

His AtE. If he was scum, he would've gone "oh cool you're just gonna regret it" kinda tone.

This is scum posting.

Bulba is conftown.

I am willing to vote rc. I haven't seen anything particulary townie from him.

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Wait how many people have claimed herder?

Read the ducking thread.

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unvote
vote sekai

This is a good wagon.

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Nom-nom List

Action Dan *or* Sekai whichever doesn't get lynched.
Rubicon
_____________? (I'm sorta leaning Guy in Freezer at this stage, honestly. Thoughts?)

Rubicon I'm ok with.
I'd rather not try to kill AD.
BBmola and Zdenek ?

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Scb is too scum to be true. Something is not right.

unvote
Vote rc

I find him scummy enough to be voted my me. Especially after the last few posts by him.

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Lynch someone ffs.
I'm bored of this incredibly long day devoid of any kimg of meaningful information.

Also majiffy is scum. Really scum. Look at his posts. That is not town tunneling. It is scum faking it. Will post when I get home I'll explaim better.

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It was fun the first 3 pages. After that the quality dropped.

vote mastin

Also why the fuck did we kill AP?
I sent in majiffy. Why is AP dead?

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Everyone claim who they put on the list. We might find a scum from it.
I'm thinking sekai is still scum.

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Oh forgot. I used my herder ability on majiffy last night.

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when i said that i was new here

i meant that i was new to this game

when i said new to this game

i meant "Left 4 Dead Mafia (Day 4)"

Can you actually comment on why you felt that you were suppused to vote rubi?
Do you even understand why it sounds bad?

Sven you are fkn ridiculous, remind me again why you have me in that part of the list?

Its sad that you are town this game goddamit.

Lol

Crazy theory, but maybe we targeted scum BP.

Like, not even maybe. Probably a very real scenario.

I think claiming who we horde targeted is smart.

No its not smart, you giva the scum team more information, and we get NO information. Think about.

What? We give information to the scum team and we get no info? Really? Please tell me Sven what kind of information do we give that benefits scum.

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Thor665
Aegor
Metal Sonic

Sheeping general opinion
read by end of d1
vig worthy

Does this seem like the list a town would submit? Cause it doesn't feel that way to me.

vote GIf

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Thor665
Aegor
Metal Sonic

Sheeping general opinion
read by end of d1
vig worthy

Does this seem like the list a town would submit? Cause it doesn't feel that way to me.

vote GIf

I'm saying that scum probably don't have to ability to send the three names. This list seems way to tidy to come from town.
Just look at
Are you saying that having a unconvetional list is scummy? You are just not making sense, you are the guy that herded majiffy.

Probably the scum don't have the ability to send the three names. I'm thinking this is a bullshit list. Just look how tidy it is compared to every other list. Alp didn't eevn remember who his third player was.

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Just lynch scum Gif.
Asks aegor if he wanta the cop dead when aegor said that the cop shoul claim if he was xshot and out of shots. That is fearmongering.

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I will compile the info tomorrow. I had a big project due tomorrow and I stayed 5 hours straight to finish it.

When I come back I will see what I can make of the data.

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@Vezok

- your complete night action submission list please.

1: Majiffy
2: majiffy
3: majiffy
I targeted majify every night.

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@zdenek: shoe me where I said I want a CC from anyone against dan's hunter claim

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@zdenek: shoe me where I said I want a CC from anyone against dan's hunter claim

vezok, vezok

ActionDan claimed Hunter for all those not paying attention.
I have no idea why people immediately assumed his claim is true. If anyone wants to step up for a counterclaim now is the chance.

In that context my statement made sense.
If someone CCed his claim then we had a scum in the bag. Not all people had posted then.
I thought you were saying I asked for a CC a long time after the claim.
And if I was scum and asking for a CC then that would've meant AD was my buddy who was fakeclaiming. Does that make any sense to you?

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VOTE: Vezok

The correct answer was, "Flavor dictates there are only male Hunters."

I think there is one of each role. Which is why vezok is specified as the "Female Boomer." And why I think Bulba was the only clown.

What the fuck?
How was that a correct answer?

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Pidgey X3/3
AD x3/3
Sekai X2/3
vezok X2/3
Majiffy X4/3 (herder)
metal sonic X3/3
alpazard X3/3
Sven X1/3
thor x3/3
PV X5/3 (herder)
Aegor X2/3
Lemidget X2/3


missing list: Lemidget, alpazard (I counted his last choice as thor.) , pidgey, , MS

What probably happened is that two people tied.
I find strange that PV has been targeted by 3 people after we dissolved the wagon from him day 1.

I don't understand the people who sent it thor.

Also probably th scum don't have the ability to send a list each night at least one of the people who didn't send a list is scum who didn't know what to come up with.

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[quote="In post 2667, PeregrineV"]I'm not a herder.[/quoteThe (herder) part means that you were targeted by a herder.

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I'm not a herder.

The (herder) part means that you were targeted by a herder.

What does X5/3 mean?

1/3 means you once in a list. 5/3 means you were on two peoples list and once herded.

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The wagon is stupid and this my lynch will provide nothing.

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Midget, Sven, Molla, Zdenek town
Apla/MS leaning town
Sekai, Aegor, AD, Vezok, Pidgey scum

You and GIF still null, probably won't ever read.

You have 5 people listed as scum when two scum already died. What's up with that?

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Scum reads are scum reads. Someone might flip town. Do you want me sitting around with my thumbs up my ass saying "hurr well all my scum reads are flipped either town or scum so I guess I'm done lol"?

Fucking retard.

And now you are insulting me for no real reason.
I think you are scum that wants to leave himself as many mislynches as possible.

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vote bbmola

There is nothing to lose here. If bb is town we lynch pere confirmed scum. We have a lot of mislynches left most likely so this will net us one scum guaranteed. Also bbmola is not the cop so yeah.

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You know, I knew BBMolla was a PR that was going to get a bad result on me. A cop, tracker, or watcher. I knew it. Really did. So I suppose I kinda am regretting not having taken care of that, but it's

so

worth it, because I get to do something I've never gotten to do in any game, ever:

Troll the FUCK out of you as confscum.

VOTE: mastin2

Sheep me please.

We're lynching Mastin today.

Just shut up and sheep me.

Mastin didn't even push to see what kind of PR bbmola was. That seems strange.

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I will stick with the town read I had on PV when his Day 1 wagon got to L-1. He is town bbmola scum.

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Very good scum game combined with poor town play.

This game was fun, but frustrating to watch.