Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Bulbazak

It's been a while

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Aegor

Okay.

[BBmolla]

GIF, you're town, please vote Aegor who has claimed scum

[BBmolla]

Don't give me that shit please, you might as well self vote at this point too

[BBmolla]

Scum claim = policy lynch, no way am I letting site meta drift that way

[BBmolla]

k ty

[BBmolla]

Then how about toogeloo?

Tongue in cheek enough to be okay

[BBmolla]

*thumbsup*

[BBmolla]

Guess I better bus.

Unvote;
Vote: Aegor

Terrible post, stop pushing it

[BBmolla]

If you're not obvtownning within the next 48 hours, you're scum.

ok

[BBmolla]

SIGH

[BBmolla]

Not you, I just can't lynch all these people claiming scum and there is actually town amongst them and that is really depressing

[BBmolla]

NC is probably scum

[BBmolla]

totes

[BBmolla]

On my policy, you're like the day 4 scum lynch

[BBmolla]

on my policy lynch*

[BBmolla]

btw BB is Mastin's buddy. Just sayin

'....

WHAT IS THIS

[BBmolla]

'....

[BBmolla]

I was talking about the elipses

[BBmolla]

Okay.

I take back my scumread on you.

fuck elipses though

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Rubicon

[BBmolla]

A me and mastin scumteam would be cool

[BBmolla]

Bulba what you got so far

[BBmolla]

do I need to read these pages

No.

[BBmolla]

wat

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Toogeloo

I think Chessball is town

I also think Bulba is town

And mastin

[BBmolla]

*raises hand*

[BBmolla]

@BBMolla: What do you think of PV, AP and Zdenek?

Scummy, I always think he's town so idk, Town

[BBmolla]

No, don't think so

[BBmolla]

Toog, less game theory, more scumhunting

[BBmolla]

I don't think Majiffy is scum

Sven could be though

[BBmolla]

I don't think Majiffy is scum

Why not?

Gut. I mean I haven't looked into that much admittedly.

[BBmolla]

Vezok lynch is pretty bleh.

[BBmolla]

Majiffy could potentially be buddying me as scum and I wouldn't know

[BBmolla]

But I'd rather go elsewhere today regardless

[BBmolla]

Molla, read on mastin?

I think she's town?

[BBmolla]

I think me having bad reads at this point is probably townie?

I have too many townreads so I'm wrong somewhere. Gimme 10

[BBmolla]

I agree with sekai on GIF

[BBmolla]

AP your townread on PV bugs me, he's the lurking scum, the other scum are probably big names.

[BBmolla]

Dopog asking questions and not following through is bleh.

PV is the lurker scum

Idk yet on RC

Alpazard seems kinda town

SweatingChess I can't read

vezok is probably town, scum probably were pushing his mislynch

I think Toog is scum

AD is town?

Aegor is town

Bulba is town

I can't read Thor but if I had to guess at this point I'd say town

I think Pidgey is the big name scum but my read is messed up because he seems kind of like a douche nozzle and he's scum reading me so I'm not putting much money on this read

NC seems town

Rubicon is still scummy

I don't know about Majiffy. I just like him cause he's reading me correctly if I'm being perfectly honest :\ I get the scumreads on him, he's not being his "fuck you I'm majiffy" like normal

I don't know about mastin2, literally same thing as majiffy where they're reading me correctly. The "i'm trying to play differently" could be reactionary to some of the players in this game who know mastin's meta pretty good.

(I don't think mastin and Majiffy are scum together)

I think Zdenek is town

Sven is gut scum

I think sekai is town

I think GIF is town

I can't read AP and have auto assumed he's town

[BBmolla]

My day 1 reads are consistently terrible as I've come to notice. I'll solve the game day 3 if I don't get mislynched before then. But then I'll doubt myself day 4 onwards and lose.

[BBmolla]

@BBmolla: If you're referring to the rubicon question I went at it in the downtime lost posts but dunno if @rubicon replied? Also where are you getting zdenek town from?

Oi gotcha. Sorry I'm a derp.

Gut. Genuinity.

[BBmolla]

AP your reaction to chessball was really bad

[BBmolla]

You know when you have a bag of skittles and then you yell at your brother just assuming he did it "You little shit!" and he just smiles? Where as if he didn't do it he'd just be like "Dude it wasn't me!"?

It was exactly like that

[BBmolla]

You know when you have a bag of skittles and it disappears*

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PV

[BBmolla]

I don't understand BBmolla's vote on PV, since Molla is scum reading Sven and it followed some posts by PV pushing on Sven.

PV seems really ungenuine,

[BBmolla]

BBMolla is scum, but he has enough towncred ATM that we can't lynch him until D3 at the earliest.

Am not

[BBmolla]

AP it's a much better strategy to buddy you as scum here than be undecided on you as I am.

[BBmolla]

What's your current reads on major wagons?
{Vezok, Sven, Alpa}

Townish, I want him to be scum, dumb(no idea about alignment. First post could be a possible slip?)

[BBmolla]

If Bulba's AtE was fake, he could be scum.

And I think he's a good enough player to pull a play like that?

[BBmolla]

Bulba what you got so far

Crippling insecurities.

What would I say?

Something (over-)confident or (over-)aggressive. You must know this about yourself.

Mastin says I'm an a-hole. And I'm not feeling very confident or aggressive right now.

Bulbazak, you don't feel confident or aggressive because Mastin called you an a-hole?

No, she called me an a-hole awhile ago. I've been reevaluating how I tackle games, since my town win-rate is abysmal. I just feel out of my depth atm.

[BBmolla]

Can we lynch PV?

[BBmolla]

[BBmolla]

Alpazard is probably the Doctor

[BBmolla]

Alp, if you're town, Toog is the scum on your wagon g

[BBmolla]

Ok cool you're scum on the wagon too PV ty

[BBmolla]

^Toog or PV idc

[BBmolla]

But I'm not a boomer

[BBmolla]

Bile bomb successful \o/

[BBmolla]

My current list of people who are likely scum are almost all people who are going to be nigh on impossible to lynch today, which is rather depressing.

Who?

[BBmolla]

My current list of people who are likely scum are almost all people who are going to be nigh on impossible to lynch today, which is rather depressing.

Who?

Pidgey, RC, SnK.
SCBK3 doesn't look great, but idk.

I disagree on SnK but I'll put in a vig thing for the other two if you want

[BBmolla]

Thor please take me off the list, I'm important, thank you.

[BBmolla]

Yes this is a soft claim, I'm not going into night as a vig canidate so fuck off.

[BBmolla]

Smurf off*

[BBmolla]

RC/AD/Pidgey or RC/AD/Bulba imo.

[BBmolla]

And I don't think Vezok is scum.

[BBmolla]

RC/AD/Rubicon

[BBmolla]

I've been going under the assumption we are lycnhing PV

[BBmolla]

idc someone make it, I'm just mega-super-important-priority-nightkill materal so don't put me on there.

[BBmolla]

Post Count is also hardly a true proof of lurksackness. A lot of the people posting less than Chessball have provided more relevant game opinions than either Chessball or you.

What the smurf did you just smurfing say about me, you little smurf? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Smurf Academy, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Gargamel's Castle, and I have over 300 confirmed smurfings. I am trained in smurf warfare and I’m the top smurf in the entire Smurf village. You are nothing to me but just another smurf. I will wipe you the smurf out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my smurfing words. You think you can get away with saying that smurf to me over the Intersmurf? Think again, smurfer. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of smurfs across the world and your village is being traced right now so you better prepare for the smurfs, smurfy. The smurfs that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re smurfing dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can smurf you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed smurfing, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the Smurfs and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable smurf off the face of the continent, you little smurf. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your smurfing tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you smurfdamn smurf. I will smurf fury all over you and you will smurf in it. You’re smurfing smurf, smurfo.

And k I can live with that plan.

[BBmolla]

AP do you guys have daytalk?

[BBmolla]

you and your buddies I mean

[BBmolla]

I don't see why PV's postings make him town but I'll go along with you people.

SCP's reaction to the PV wagon dying was pretty terrible.

VOTE: SCP
Rubicon is also a solid option

[BBmolla]

I'd be down to lynch ReaperCharlie

[BBmolla]

I don't expect we'd be able to make the wagon appealing enough to get enough people on it though

[BBmolla]

I still think GIF is town unless he's significantly increased his scum game over the past two to three months. (plausible but eh.)

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Rubicon

[BBmolla]

P-edit: Why. If we aren't doing mastin, can we do the Scumball or RC?

Yeah sure. I don't want to lynch mastin today.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: RedCoyote

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[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: RedCoyote

[BBmolla]

Stop trying to vig me Thor, just nightkill me if you want me dead that bad, jesus

[BBmolla]

Thor you're too scummy to decide the vig list at this point, over ruled

Get like Zdenek to do it or some shit

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: No lynch

K I'm done this is retarded. Let me know when I can hammer someone that isn't me.

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: RC

[BBmolla]

la la la

[BBmolla]

VOTE: mastin2

Sheep me please.

[BBmolla]

We're lynching Mastin today.

[BBmolla]

Just shut up and sheep me.

[BBmolla]

Majiffy did you give me it?

[BBmolla]

Never mind don't answer that I'm retarded.

Just vote mastin.

[BBmolla]

LOL

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Sure mastin, I'm a PR tell your buddies to nightkill me

[BBmolla]

Holy shit I can not believe you just came out and claimed scum, wow

[BBmolla]

mastin I thought you'd get shot by vigs last night, why would I check you LOL

[BBmolla]

No, no, no. I swear. I'm actually the witch. I left a 'crumb in my iso for it. In actuality, that means I'm a PGO; nobody could have visited me and lived!

Oh the irony

[BBmolla]

Sven: Mastin is still scum lynch him dog

[BBmolla]

Mastin you really fucked up gurl

[BBmolla]

And sorry about the pronoun mixup

[BBmolla]

Sven: Mastin is still scum lynch him dog

Speaking of dogs, we actually killed dopog, randomly, to throw you guys off of our trails. Somehow, the horde managed to eat AP last night.

I want to believe

[BBmolla]

mastin did anyone wanna kill me for dropping all those shitty soft tells

[BBmolla]

AP was also a master baiter so he prolly baited doge

You guys are gonna kill me tonight right?

[BBmolla]

Solid claim

[BBmolla]

There is no way mastin would do this as town unless he's planning to siteflake

[BBmolla]

Also, I'm a she.
SHE.

I'm sincerely sorry, I slip up sometimes. Apologies.

[BBmolla]

mastin how many scum buddies do you have

I'm reading your spam mastina

[BBmolla]

lol

I bet you didn't even mention me in the scum qt again

[BBmolla]

I just want to be popular is that too much to ask

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Rubicon

Sheep me again please.

There is an amnesiac cop in the game, I recieved guilty on Mastin N1 and guilty on Rubicon N2.

I tried to imply I was a cop but if there is a town rolecop or something I didn't want them to see that I'm just VT and be like "wtf."

[BBmolla]

Amnesiac Cop: Target someone else tonight, I'm probably going to die tonight due to scum paranoia (yay).

For possible amn targets tonight I'd say go AD or Zdenek

[BBmolla]

Also I suggest cop targets someone useful as town like Thor or SCB, if Rubicon had been town that'd have been such a waste of a report.

[BBmolla]

I didn't get anything from the amn cop last night.

Mafia probably tried to kill me though.

[BBmolla]

Does anyone have anything?

[BBmolla]

From the amn cop I mean

[BBmolla]

I'm literally fucking clueless as to who scum could be

[BBmolla]

VOTE: LeMidget

[BBmolla]

I think Toogeloo Boogeloo was scum and I think LeMidget is too by default

[BBmolla]

ooooooooooooooooooh

I thought snipe was our town collective vig but that's retarded cause it's the horde

Excuse me for being dumb

So our Horde kill was blocked??

[BBmolla]

Why would redirecting me onto myself do anything

[BBmolla]

fwiw I could go Metal Sonic too

[BBmolla]

LeMidget
Metal Sonic
PeregrineV

My list btw

[BBmolla]

Can we lynch/vig Toog slot please

[BBmolla]

As far as I understand, Amnesiac selects a person to be investigated and selects someone to recieve the report. I was that person for night 1 and night 2. I don't know who for night 3.

[BBmolla]

Oh

Fuck that makes a lot of sense

Damnit

[BBmolla]

AD please get in here and solve the game?

[BBmolla]

Theoretically how many more scum to go btw?

[BBmolla]

AD please get in here and solve the game?

sure. I'll probably take the rest of the day phase. Thor flipping town was not expected.

Also I think there's a scum herder as per last game. Possibly it's Toog's slot, something he said D1 pinged my gut

If you're the amn cop just fucking check him and send me it because nobody is listening to me about the slot

[BBmolla]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Metal Sonic

[BBmolla]

I could lynch Pidgey

[BBmolla]

PeregrineV please confirm this isn't a reaction test

[BBmolla]

Can I please suffice it to say he's lying or do I need to out the reasons?

[BBmolla]

Let me see more responses. I can literally prove he's lying.

[BBmolla]

PV what was the flavor you got in the Amnesiac Cop report?

[BBmolla]

(There is more, but let me start here)

[BBmolla]

If at any time you guys realize I'm town and he's scum and we can do this without outting the Amn Cop I'd much prefer that.

[BBmolla]

And let's just think about this:
1. Why wouldn't PV out this immediately?
2. Why would the Amn cop target me? And, if you believe that, why would the Amn cop send his report to PV of all people?

PV is scum attempting to out the Amn Cop. PLEASE trust me and lynch PV here, I promise you he will flip scum and we can stop the Amn Cop from being revealed (Which is his point here!)

Like I can continue, but in order to prove I'm town I have to out the Amn Cop and I really don't want to.

[BBmolla]

Please please please take a leap of faith with me and just lynch PV.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: PV

If I am wrong (I literally can't be but if I am) I will self vote tomorrow, no problem.

[BBmolla]

I know more than meets the eye, please trust me so I don't have to out anything, just lynch PV.

[BBmolla]

There won't be, the Amn Cop is out of shots.

[BBmolla]

No. But I know who they are and I know they're out of shots.

I'm also a Power Role btw

[BBmolla]

Well I at least know they didn't do anything last night, I guess they could technically have more shots or have been roleblocked or something?

[BBmolla]

Do I have to?

[BBmolla]

If what I've given isn't enough for you to believe me, I will out completely. It will be anti town if I have to though.

[BBmolla]

Believe me I'm looking forward to seeing what he makes up

[BBmolla]

Ok, hold on, before anyone else votes I want a claim out of PV. And after he claims wait till I come in and respond before voting.

I'll also say it's a good thing I'm not the amn cop cause I would have probably checked Thor last night lol

[BBmolla]

PeregrineV please confirm this isn't a reaction test

Would be kind of an odd one, why would I do that?

I donno.

I know you're guilty is fake, so explain please?

[BBmolla]

PV what was the flavor you got in the Amnesiac Cop report?

?

[BBmolla]

Tick tock PV, you gotta make something up quick nobody is gonna believe that it takes 10 minutes to check a mod message

(plus I have to go to class so hurry)

[BBmolla]

You have a guilty on me from the Amn Cop who didn't do anything last night, you're either scum or lying town, and if you're lying town you should come out and say what's up

[BBmolla]

Fuck reading, post the flavor

[BBmolla]

...

PV don't disappear I've got to go, hurry up

[BBmolla]

PV, last chance, if you're lying about the Amn Cop report, say so now

[BBmolla]

No one vote anything until I get home in a couple of hours please

Meantime, PV post the fucking flavor jesus fuck

[BBmolla]

Peregrine is wrong btw, it's Witch flavored.

[BBmolla]

The only possible other explanation I see is that the Mafia have a messenger who made a fake message and sent it to him but I doubt it highly

I think he's probably a traitor trying to out the Amn Cop. L4D has a group of 4, with scum sacrificing themselves like PV is it has to be that he's like the cola man or some shit.

[BBmolla]

If somehow he is town PLEASE lynch me tomorrow instead of vigging me, let me use my role one last time, thank you.

[BBmolla]

I literally can't even fathom how he could be town here though.

He needs to claim.

Don't vote till he does please.

[BBmolla]

Then he's definitely scum.

[BBmolla]

Also, it's possible the Amn cop just didn't action, so I guess with me probably dying tonight (assuming a PV scumflip which if he's a VT faking a scumread on me I have no fucking idea why he's gamethrowing) there is hope that he just decided not to action last night?

Meh.

[BBmolla]

sketch*

There was a specific scenario I thought of where PV could be a power role mistaking something I did for something scum would do to say that without telling you too much.

[BBmolla]

There is nothing else I want from him so feel free whenever.

[BBmolla]

I'd prefer lynch tomorrow if Pere is town so I can at least out what I have

If Pere is town I can't fathom it being anything but game throwing

[BBmolla]

I mean I definitely know the report is fake so I don't know how he could fathomably be town.

[BBmolla]

Guys hold the fuck on

[BBmolla]

This is pretty unfuckingbelievable so I don't blame you if you don't believe me

The Amnesiac cop doesn't exist, I made it up to cover the fact I'm a cop.

That's why when PeregrineV claimed he recieved a report from a non existant amnesiac cop it seemed pretty fucking bullshitty

Night reports:
1 - Guilty on Mastin
2 - Guilty on Rubi
3 - Inno on Thor (Yeah I fucked up. Hence me trying to validify the claim by "not recieving report." Then of course somehow PV recieves a fake report? What the fuck.)
4 - No result on Alpa

*sigh*

I know it sounds like a load of crap but it's fucking true. The amnesiac cop doesn't exist.

[BBmolla]

Flavor is I'm a Witch btw

I've crumbed that a bunch

[BBmolla]

Someone please be here and ask me why I did what and stuff so I can explain any confusions

The only thing I don't fucking understand is how PV got a report from a non existant amn cop

[BBmolla]

My biggest guess is Mafia have a messager ability that is terribly modded as to not make it obvious it's a message from a person and not a mod message.

[BBmolla]

But that's retarded

But I literally can't think of anything else

[BBmolla]

In regards to why I thought PV might be a PR, I had a theory involving PV being a tracker who tracked me to Thor and figured I made the kill. Or possible a watcher who watched me night 2 and didn't see anyone visit me. Either way, I thought he could be faking the report to hide his role. When he claimed VT I knew he had a to be scum, like the only possibility would be Venmar having shitty fucking messager rules AND the messager giving a fake report the night where I fuck up AND PV not claiming it immediately. It was all too much for me to believe.

[BBmolla]

I'm really upset if there is a messager and the mod has shitty fucking rules regarding it where mafia can just fucking fake mod messages left and right but I have no idea what else is even possible

[BBmolla]

tbh I'm really upset because I thought I could just catch all the scum all while living as a cop claiming to recieve amn reports and then get a scummy and give a speech but those plans are down at this point

[BBmolla]

I'm also aware how ingenius of a mafia fake claim this looks to be and I don't know what to tell you about that.

I understand lynching me. Just when I flip cop know what I say is true and use that to solve this dumbfuck game.

[BBmolla]

I was honest when I said I wanted another report dude. Claiming cop doesnt help with that.

[BBmolla]

I typed up 3 times just coming out but I figured that was exactly what scum PV wanted and didn't each time

[BBmolla]

No.

[BBmolla]

So apparently Mafia have a Roleblocker and Messager left in addition to a dead rolecop versus a bunch of shitty town PRs and a cop.

What the fuck is this game

[BBmolla]

Roleblocker could be town. Town Jailkeeper? Doubt I'd have been jailed last night by town though.

[BBmolla]

Regarding pv, if there was a messenger why did he refuse to post the flavor?

Yeah that shit was wierd.

[BBmolla]

I agree. And I'd think scum Wouldn't choose bbm as bait.

So what's your theory then?

[BBmolla]

Mmmm

Just noticed that Bulba flipped UNCOMMON INFECTED

And the other 2 herders flipped SPECIAL INFECTED

Is there anythign special about this?

Uncommon Infected is computer controlled infected that you only see in certain places. Clowns you find at the carnival.

Special Infected are ones you can control (Boomer/Hunter/Smoker/Spitter/Jockey/Charger). Witch probably fits under here because despite being computer controlled, they are unique and different from the horde.

[BBmolla]

Will massclaim hurt us at this point?

If the point is to prove my role, then no, it's much better accomplished by just having someone say they are not the amn cop.

If it's just to find out what roles we have... I don't see why we would at the moment?

[BBmolla]

I agree. And I'd think scum Wouldn't choose bbm as bait.

So what's your theory then?

I don't have one. Peregrine doesn't gambit like that though without reason. Like he'd never ever ever ever do that.

I agree. The only plausible thing I can possibly see is a mafia messager being used almost bastardly.

I mean we can pretty easily confirm that the Amn Cop doesnt exist

[BBmolla]

@mod: Prod Midget please.

[BBmolla]

Well my brain says lynch BB, heart says Alpazard.
I also don't have town reads on either Majiffy or Pidgey.

why does your brain tell you to lynch molla

Because Peregrine told us BB is scum and BB said that he could prove Peregrine was lying, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

I could prove it because the Amn Cop doesnt exist. I chose not to yesterday to avoid outting myself completely.

[BBmolla]

I mean, I could also prove he's lying by flipping Town Cop if you'd like.

[BBmolla]

Obviously I'm down for a not-amn-cop massclaim to prove myself

[BBmolla]

Obviously I'm down for a not-amn-cop massclaim to prove myself

[BBmolla]

Depends on which angle: Are we going from the angle that scum had an idea of what was happening because they somehow sent PV a fake report, or that PV was just straight up lying?

[BBmolla]

In regards to Sekai I mean.

[BBmolla]

VOTE: Pidgey

Better bus before majiffy catches on to me

this guys is who we should lyncdh imo

[BBmolla]

He is super transparently town, hence me wanting to lynch him early game for not being transparently town

[BBmolla]

It's occurred to me that scum-BB would know that scum have a messenger, so a mass claim wouldn't prove that PV was lying and I am back to wanting to know how BB planned to prove that Peregrine was lying.

wat

We mass claim and no one claims amnesiac cop

The conclusion is...?

[BBmolla]

Zdenek a Mafia Messenger that is able to send a message to people and not make it obvious it's a message from a messenger (IE, "Someone sends you a letter! It reads:) is janky as fuck. To be frank, that was literally the last possibility I had in mind behind
A. He's lying scum.
B. He's lying town who saw me visit Thor.

Which are both much more plausible

Only when he flipped VT did that become the only possibility. I would never ever asssume that that is what happened. Would you?

[BBmolla]

To get the lynch off of me without claiming cop. Claiming VT = "Oh okay just lynch him and if town lynch PV"

[BBmolla]

I was trying to get PV lynched without allowing him to accomplish what I'd assumed his goal was, out the Amn cop.

[BBmolla]

I didn't out myself as cop so I proved it was possible?

[BBmolla]

Needed to have a reason to show he was lying without giving the real reason for him lying

[BBmolla]

You guys underestimate how stubborn I was about not letting a supposed Traitor PV trying to out the amn cop succeed.

[BBmolla]

Witch, go to ISO and search for irony or ironic for more proof there. I claimed it earlier too

[BBmolla]

Majiffy, kindly explain how in god's name it makes any sense for BB to be stubborn about preventing something that he knew couldn't happen.

Oh I see why you're confused, I equivocate outting amn cop with outting actual cop, with that in mind go read what I said