Left 4 Dead Mafia! (Game Over!)

[ActionDan]

Also
[insert general zombie catchphrase here]

BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAINS

!!!!!!

[ActionDan]

recently mastin's pronouns have changed a bit

[ActionDan]

DGB is town.

[ActionDan]

Thats a shitty reason to get a scum read on me




VOTE: Bulba

I agree I think this post is a better reason.

VOTE: sven

[ActionDan]

Not with that vote we dont

[ActionDan]

You're saying you're town reading Chessball right now?
Or is this just a "theoretically they're valuable later" stance?

I feel like when I said "DGB is town", I was very clear.

[ActionDan]

Awesome! So...what is it Chessball has done that looks townish to you?
Because all I see thus far is bog standard DGB stuff.

comparatively from DGB scum games I see much more relevant direct reads

[ActionDan]

Uh... like which reads? I'm not seeing it.

?

she's given like 5 of them in thread

[ActionDan]

Chessball is scum.

so tell me more about how a proclaimed null behavior makes them scum?

[ActionDan]

Uhhh. But I claim scum all the time. Like frequently. Multiple times per game. And typically only as town.

[ActionDan]

Don't you deny it

[ActionDan]

I kinda dislike how he misquoted AP and is claiming that I said this.

sorry? it's like it was accidental or something

[ActionDan]

I would submit my statement holds just as much solid evidence as his rebuttal to my previous request, and presented it to show as much. What confuses you there?

I picked out your statement to capture your stance clearly. why do you think DGB hydra is scum from doing something that you say is null?

[ActionDan]

Ah I see your paragraph reasoning thor. But at this stage you can't possibly hope that a so called pressure wagon of one vote will get you anywhere. Or at least won't produce results simply based upon your vote.

[ActionDan]

Mastin if you wanna be town you gotta stop misreading this hilarious scumbutt.

Well, then, I guess I'm scum because I'm townreading Vezok and quite strongly so.

Why? His first post sucked

[ActionDan]

Or is the reason simply because he's a cw to Rubicon atm?

@cut. It's page 14 dood.

[ActionDan]

Again there is such a thing as asking. Which is how we got here. The vote is air

[ActionDan]

The vote is what it is. I'm asking why you're so intrigued by it when it's actually just as solid as any other wagon thus far.

You see the point is that it isnt.

[ActionDan]

Oh ap. What gives you the idea that I'm scummy(?)?

Cut. Which thought precisely. The one where I think your vote is air because you're voting someone for null reasons to get pressure and responses to a wagon that hasn't and won't materialize and the one wherein I think the person you're voting for is town?

[ActionDan]

Or*

[ActionDan]

Bulba zak get your vote off me you dirty rotten ape. And by that I mean francis

[ActionDan]

These walls are killing me

[ActionDan]

god damn I am not catching up on 15 pages.

Is sven still scum or not?

[ActionDan]

just for you. I'll actually iso those 5. after I LoL.. plenty

[ActionDan]

A scumbird in the hand..

how many birds are in this game

[ActionDan]

Um... What?

I don't trust people to lynch DGB without me howling for it.

Majiffy/Thor/mastin are people I also trust to lynch her should I be unable.

At least give her a chance to die by nk. I promise if somehow we are both alive by d4 I will give it a thought. Maybe.

[ActionDan]

Can I have a brief review of why people want to lynch this guy. God forbid I iso him.

[ActionDan]

Ok I won't lynch you then.

[ActionDan]

I don't find it hard to understand, I just find it dumb.

You know what's dumb?
Ignoring that I've had a vote in play when trying to cut a deal about people and acting like my vig list is also my top scum list when I was voting elsewhere when I made said list.
Derpa.

@Everyone

Since I'm the only one talking about it.
Does ANYONE have an issue with this as the Vig list;

ActionDan
or
Vezok

Speak up now or I'll just assume everyone agrees with me and hold you accountable to that idea.

I object. Also one would think scum have a way of let's say DISRUPTING this (aka look at the precursor this mechanic and draw a parallel) anyway. So I think it'd be much more productive to have everyone do w/e and be held accountable later. instead of "I follows plan and vigs these people teeheehee"

[ActionDan]

I'd rather kill off Vez than Alhazard.

God knows what Peregrine is

[ActionDan]

Bulba tell me what else I am being called so you can get comf town status.
It starts with H.

You do not start with the letter H unless there are multiples of the same infected

[ActionDan]

Which maybe in this case only because of how the games go. Max one more

[ActionDan]

If you're claiming to be an infected That Starts with The Letter h than yes I do know what I'm talking about

[ActionDan]

Oh well nvm mind then

[ActionDan]

God Damn what a scummy post. Are people townreading that?

[ActionDan]

ActionDan is town, nice try, ScumThor.

Good thing I'm getting him eaten then, huh?

it's because you can't do it yourself

[ActionDan]

Bulba tell me what else I am being called so you can get comf town status.
It starts with H.

You do not start with the letter H unless there are multiples of the same infected

Urgh, mastin what do you think of this post?

I know what I think of it. These flash wagons. Thanks a lot.

[ActionDan]

Select another sacrifice.

VOTE: Nero cain

I'd vote thor but really that won't happen today

[ActionDan]

^ Not necessarily.

Stop trying to bait claims though.

Dan can you get in here and tell me if you are feeling me or not.

I'm you up. where's the material you want me to examine?

[ActionDan]

I'll feel you up*

but seriously whats up

[ActionDan]

Talk to me more about this. How did AD claim Hunter, and where did you come up with Hunter?

the answer is basically yes I did.

[ActionDan]

and because I know it's coming: I don't really want to vote SCB. There's got to another choice here.

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Mastin

There you go AP.

[ActionDan]

Wait how many people have claimed herder?

[ActionDan]

##Vote: RC

done

over

fini

[ActionDan]

Lol

[ActionDan]

##Vote Rubicon

[ActionDan]

targeted Toog Ageor and Thor for horde kills. Really just wanted Thor dead. guess I got my wish

[ActionDan]

AD please get in here and solve the game?

sure. I'll probably take the rest of the day phase. Thor flipping town was not expected.

Also I think there's a scum herder as per last game. Possibly it's Toog's slot, something he said D1 pinged my gut

[ActionDan]

there were 3 herders last game, 2 town, 1 scum

[ActionDan]

ActionDan claimed Hunter for all those not paying attention.
I have no idea why people immediately assumed his claim is true. If anyone wants to step up for a counterclaim now is the chance.

At this moment, Vezok new that there were multiple herders in the game, but he saw AD claim hunter and asked for a counterclaim rather than assuming that there could be more hunters. This seems like pretty obv. role fishing to me.

This is actually pretty salient.

Though last game there were 3 herders (again 2 town, 1 scum) but I don't think Vezok was in that game

[ActionDan]

Plz explain the ms vote peregrine earlier

[ActionDan]

You guys have no patience

[ActionDan]

Yeah this feels all sorts of scetch. Though PeregrineV being a traitor like BBM thought is the only logical solution

[ActionDan]

I've played with peregrine enough to know he'd never gambit like that without a good reason.

[ActionDan]

I agree. And I'd think scum Wouldn't choose bbm as bait.

[ActionDan]

I agree. And I'd think scum Wouldn't choose bbm as bait.

So what's your theory then?

I don't have one. Peregrine doesn't gambit like that though without reason. Like he'd never ever ever ever do that.

[ActionDan]

I've decided that bbm should be given another night phase. we aren't in danger of losing JUST YET (though mislynch misvig and miskill = 8p = mylo so that's a little scary).

pro-doge rally

[ActionDan]

The only bad lynches right now would be Zdenek and Majiffy. I preferred to lynch toog's slot which I think is desps atm

[ActionDan]

Runners up would be alp and pidgey with gif and ms after that

[ActionDan]

Hi birdums

[ActionDan]

claim time is the best time

[ActionDan]

No objections to mc. Objections to submitting lists

[ActionDan]

That was sven pigdy. But honestly sekai is being dodgy anyway so honest mistake.

[ActionDan]

Different yes but different circumstances. 1 scum left in 10 makes for a different play than facing likely 99 percent 3 scum in 9. Or he could be scum and that's why

[ActionDan]

He claimed vt -_-.

Anyway I'll full just because. Hunter jack of all trades with track roleblock and commute. Tracked thor N1 but was roleblocked. Roleblocked thor N2. I may or may not have commuted yet

[ActionDan]

That's where I'm leaning also. Town power added up if everyone is telling the truth is a bit weak no matter what sven is

[ActionDan]

That's where I'm leaning also. Town power added up if everyone is telling the truth is a bit weak no matter what sven is

are you basing this on anything other than your own opinion?

My opinion counts for a lot.

[ActionDan]

Scum lie most likely in the claimed VTs. Gif is basically confirmed town. And sven is likely to be town too. bbmolla i'm willing to handwave the weirdness earlier.

Pidgy
MS
Jiffy
Desp
Sekai.

ordering is still Desp > Pidgey > MS > Sekai > Jiffy

[ActionDan]

Wait really. Do you think mafia vig can exist here?

[ActionDan]

Well flavor matches what I'd expect for a tank though it's possible that's just coincidence. Still that'd be a strong mafia role for 22 people with a probable 5 mafia. And claimed town power is already low.

[ActionDan]

Neutral. Not town

[ActionDan]

Neutral. Not town

[ActionDan]

Mod: on v/la till Monday.

[ActionDan]

VOTE: desp

Sekai finish him

[ActionDan]

Currently leaning against 4 herders. Will be back later

[ActionDan]

This is really just a head scratcher reading these posts from Ms and molla and giffy. Right now there's 2 votes out without any quick hammers. You can't just say that sven is town and not up for consideration. The implication is that gif is scum from that statment. And imo that's improbable, though unlike what gif is saying, it's still possible despite flavor. Not to mention that sven claimed a 4th herder. Which is o0

[ActionDan]

AD where do you stand dude

On Gif/Sven i'm heavily leaning voting sven; On Majiffy/Pidgey on previous days I'd have gone with Pidgey, but Majiffy's posts today feel really callous so I'm getting cold feet on that one and would rather wait a day (if we get there) when things should hopefully become clearer.

[ActionDan]

^ Dat Ms vote doe.

[ActionDan]

I said that a day ago, although not quite like that. but with cross voting and no quick hammers it sort of forces you to pick sides.

[ActionDan]

AD what's your metal sonic read?

I'm going to borrow your previous read of me to describe it: whoknows

Right now I'm thinking about the implications of the Pidgy vote. if there is only one scum in each of gif/sven pidgy/majiffy, it would imply that one of you/MS are scum. I would tend not to think it's you molla one if one of gif's/sven's claimed PRs is actually not town (and to be honest, a 4th herder even if town is shitty).

@Gif: being more cerebral and dexterous than the others I can stalk (track) leap (commute) and incapacitate (roleblock).

[ActionDan]

Wouuöd

go home, you're drunk.

also the only thing that would kinda sorta be 3rd partyish is the witch

[ActionDan]

MS is in a trance

[ActionDan]

unsure still dude

[ActionDan]

oh wrong person lol

[ActionDan]

lol Ageor was SK but I think we just destroyed him

[ActionDan]

if you want context I was an all but claimed mason

[ActionDan]

I don't believe yours very much sven

[ActionDan]

also your flavor is off the mark

imma do it

VOTE: Sven

[ActionDan]

2 votes on 2 people now. exciting.

[ActionDan]

herder

[ActionDan]

Anyway how are you feeling over there BBmolla

[ActionDan]

your options seem the same as before

[ActionDan]

I mean what would have changed in MS, Pidgey, Me?

[ActionDan]

VOTE: Pidgey

[ActionDan]

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[ActionDan]

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[ActionDan]

I enjoyed mastins plan. Who was the expect ion that deviated from it btw mastin?