The Reckoning III (Math is Hard) Holy crap, perfect town win

[Antihero]

Hi, guys. Any particular advice for parsing the thread? I was going to thoughtfully skim isos, but...

same thing here.

am i getting 1v1'd on a guilty claim?

[Antihero]

Hi, guys. Any particular advice for parsing the thread? I was going to thoughtfully skim isos, but...

same thing here.

am i getting 1v1'd on a guilty claim?

This is a horrible entrance.

seriously? if we're playing a douchebaggish game of "you're scum and therefore EVERYTHING you say is scum" then go ahead and lynch me now. i'm not reading 96 pages just to get wheedled on bullshit like "what's going on?" "LOLZ, SO SCUMZORZ"

[Antihero]

got pretty ninja'd but why would you think this

well, two people just said "i'm assuming anti is the lynch today" so i'm just assuming that there's a guilty claim floating around out there

[Antihero]

Okay then, hypothetically speaking. Why would you, as town, come into a game and assume a wagon on you is due to a claimed guilty?

because that's the only kind of wagon that goes this fast

[Antihero]

gladiator isn't an investigative
did

my

slot claim gladiator?

[Antihero]

i thought eleven flipped scum

UNVOTE: Your New Gay Overlords
VOTE: ~Jordan

it's red
i thought i was scum when i opened my role PM, too

[Antihero]

I still don't understand why you would assume a guilty claim unless you were guilty?

right, because no one ever fakes guilties

never

[Antihero]

i can already see why waffles is driving mollie apeshit berserko

[Antihero]

well, other than the flips, i don't know what's going on with the claims

someone said something about a messenger... and i think you said something about being a joat

i should probably make a list...

[Antihero]

(This head of this hydra has had you as a town read most of the game, I'm not trying to set you up, I'm trying to get at what you were thinking because that just seems an odd assumption to make at the start of day if you're town.)

you only hear the echo chamber of "oh i'm assuming player X is the lynch today" if player X has some kind of role-incriminating evidence on him

i didn't know if someone claimed something yesterday

[Antihero]

anti is just good at faking towntells

i laughed

[Antihero]

cheery dog's scummy face...

[Antihero]

i'm just going to take the ut-clear at face value for now. from a game design standpoint, the joat claim kind of bugs me, but i'm not going to over think it. i buy it.

[Antihero]

because then the scumbag joat can't claim his actual role without being counterclaimed

i could see it happening, but seems kind of tacky

[Antihero]

godfathers aren't immune to hiders/weak roles. i

guess

you could say "commuter", but given that the QT was set up, the action was obviously successful

take home message: ut is confirmed; let's not get bogged down

[Antihero]

did anyone get a message night 1?

[Antihero]

no one claimed to get these "results" night 1, either
i think it's a messenger too

[Antihero]

i can't really follow much of mollie's thinking, either.

if I closed my eyes and ignored waffles these 3 players stand out:

gaiboiz
cheery
axxle

and I wanna throw gamma in there.

anti is town btw

first, elephant in the room, why am i a town read? admittedly, it's a refreshing change of pace from "OHLOLZEVERYBREATHYOUTAKEISSCUMZORZ", but i haven't really done anything besides obvious setup shit

cheery... maybe... i can't really think of any reasonable role that would actually have knowledge (amnesiac double "cop"...? this is just getting ridiculous). add it with the fact that no one reported a message day 2, and i think it's more likely it's scum misinformation shenanigans.
other slots of interest to me include inflatablepie and maybe jordan.

[Antihero]

prodded, won't get to this until tuesday

[Antihero]

@reck; it's because i haven't posted in a while. which is too bad because this game is 110 pages long and i'm still not caught up fully on it (and probably won't be for a while).

@gamma; i vaguely alluded to my reads in my last post

cheery... maybe... i can't really think of any reasonable role that would actually have knowledge (amnesiac double "cop"...? this is just getting ridiculous). add it with the fact that no one reported a message day 2, and i think it's more likely it's scum misinformation shenanigans.
other slots of interest to me include inflatablepie and maybe jordan.

aside from the setup speculation, i suspect cheery because of the push on mollie (seems like an awkward "ohlolzbussing" angle).

inflatable pie has spent a considerable amount of effort trying to lynch a slot i know to be town; pretty much, to the exclusion of anything else. vote parking on nuwen + only getting off for another slot that's known town now (UT) is scummy

unlike Magua here, my jordan slot read is actually based on fate. i don't know... i feel like fate's noise:signal ratio has been pretty high this game. i also don't like how he baited people into voting scum (eagle) and then turned around and called them "low hanging fruit" and pushed people on "other teams"; it has a selective scumhunt-y feel (476)

[Antihero]

anti is right in that it is his very conspicuous absence that makes me nervous. <--- we have a hydra together he knows how I think.

again, it's 110 page game, and i kind of share jordan's sentiment. i feel like a fish out of water. i'm also not very confident since i feel like my reads are automatically not going to be as good as everyone else's.

[Antihero]

and why would you auto assume that your reads wouldn't be as good as every1 else's? your reads are as valid as any1's

lololololdsajkfkjsaljesa;fjlkwajfljwaf

ah, mollie, i don't care if you're scumreading me. you crack me up.

[Antihero]

aside from the setup speculation, i suspect cheery because of the push on mollie (seems like an awkward "ohlolzbussing" angle).

inflatable pie has spent a considerable amount of effort trying to lynch a slot i know to be town; pretty much, to the exclusion of anything else. vote parking on nuwen + only getting off for another slot that's known town now (UT) is scummy

unlike Magua here, my jordan slot read is actually based on fate. i don't know... i feel like fate's noise:signal ratio has been pretty high this game. i also don't like how he baited people into voting scum (eagle) and then turned around and called them "low hanging fruit" and pushed people on "other teams"; it has a selective scumhunt-y feel (476)

mollie, feel free to critique

[Antihero]

haven't gotten around to reading axxle and iec yet

[Antihero]

VOTE: jordan

[Antihero]

the only people giving me attention want me dead

i feel so...
... neglected

[Antihero]

because i just looked at yours and iec's iso's and the fate slot is where i want my vote.

also i like the composition of the fate wagon the best

[Antihero]

when did you want me to vote?

[Antihero]

yeah

it was pretty boring, but i didn't see any red flags. i also saw a few votes i liked, so i'm going to call this slot town.

[Antihero]

nothing to say about my fate vote?

guess i'll just go back to crying into my pillow...

[Antihero]

i guess you don't like it then

why?

[Antihero]

better question is why you want to lynch mollie in the first place ._.

[Antihero]

...the hell?

mollie's just going to vote me for no reason and run off?

...

now i feel so... abused.

[Antihero]

nah

it still breaks my heart

[Antihero]

...

...

yeah, why is anyone talking about lynching reck?

[Antihero]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: pie

[Antihero]

ANTIHERO is this "100% confidence" role related or is just Nuwen's bluster

bluster

[Antihero]

if someone else wants to take the slot, they'll do so voluntarily

if the game's really making you that miserable just replace out

[Antihero]

"terrible" is tunneling on one slot for nearly the entire game
"terrible" is not re-evaluating after one of your scumreads is conftowned
"terrible" is ignoring everything outside of one player slot and then getting huffy when wagoned

"terrible" also describes your claim pretty well too. if you really drew that role, the obvious strategy is to no-target since there's no way in hell the game's going to get to day 12 and submitting actions is only likely to cause trouble with tracker/watcher results.

[Antihero]

... and the guy who the flavor's based on is telling me the flavor doesn't even make sense.

hammer him or wait, don't care

[Antihero]

lol

[Antihero]

... and the guy who the flavor's based on is telling me the flavor doesn't even make sense.

I kind of want an elaboration here, Anti.

is ELEVEN even a thing from the meet because it means nothing to me

... was what i said unclear...?
this game is called reckoning. that's the thing where reck does an big RL meet... right?

[Antihero]

/yawn

i wouldn't worry about it. the self-hammer was a scum claim and now pie is just trying to cram in some last second wifom (notice the lack of parting reads... anywhere...)

[Antihero]

VOTE: gammagoey

[Antihero]

'kay then

VOTE: jordan

[Antihero]

well reck we have lynches to burn, so how about we just fucking kill the dickhead who replaced into a gigantic game and then whined about how many pages it was

because LINES IN THE SAND NIGGA, LINES IN THE SAND

if we're to the point of policy lynching, iec really needs to go first

[Antihero]

wait a second... who else besides ythan claimed vig?

[Antihero]

ok, i see the two day1/night1 kills, did ythan claim both?

[Antihero]

so... there's been a claim AND a CC on a night action....

...this seems kind of important. why aren't we talking about this?

[Antihero]

vigging miller claims is a thing?

3 vig shots... eh....

[Antihero]

yeah...

so ythan's scum

[Antihero]

i think mollie's asking for the flavor name...

._.

[Antihero]

oh i'm stupid...

/slaps self

[Antihero]

the name is "confusion over cop results"...

this is embarrassing...

[Antihero]

wait a sec... i though waffles was "somethingelse"-of-all-trades

[Antihero]

yeah, because ythan's sooooo town

[Antihero]

wait a sec... i though waffles was "somethingelse"-of-all-trades

dear god we're losing you too down the stupidhole

WE'RE LOSING HIM

i'm already a full-blown resident of the stupidhole

SO I GUESS THE JOKE'S ON YOU DIPSHIT

[Antihero]

yeah, because ythan's sooooo town

it makes sense to dayvig a miller. it makes sense for *site meta* to vig triforce I guess. <--- neither of these 2 make sense to ME

IT WAS SARCASM, MOLLIE

SARCASM

[Antihero]

VOTE: ythan

[Antihero]

i couldn't relate my rolename to my role either

dead end is dead end

[Antihero]

oooo bitchy biting sarcasm... i think i made him mad...

so i'm guessing the assumption is that scum didn't get fakeclaims... like in literally every goddamn theme game... ever

[Antihero]

OP says scum get fakeclaimes. But both Eagle's claim and Pie's claim were so off-base that either a) scum didn't get flavorname-to-rolename pairing, or b) decided to not use it. I'm leaning towards a. Ie, I think Eagle's fakeclaim really was "That one game where Mina was scum and didn't giggle", and I think that Pie's fakeclaim really was "Eleven", but then they both fucked it up in terms of relating that to their claimed roles of "Nonconsecutive cop" and "Stupidly long-ass requirement to solo win the game."

Mollie's already previously claimed role and flavor here. I didn't notice it when she claimed, but looking back I see the same disconnect between flavor/role.

So I asked. Tbf, I don't actually even care if you have the same situation, because I want to hear it from mollie, not from you. Hence, the dismissal.

i don't recall pie ever attempting to give a flavorname to rolename connection ever

and i'm allowed to give my opinion on your line of thought. just like you're allowed to give your opinion on my line of thought:

Guiz.

As seriously amusing as this page is, can we go back to the point where we were talking about people being scummy, for, y'know, reasons and stuff, instead of fixating blindly onto mechanics?

Thx.

[Antihero]

guys, you can go tear each other's throats out in the speakeasy or somewhere else

can someone give me a good reason not to lynch ythan today?

[Antihero]

you guys are such a joy...

[Antihero]

and if you're going to call me scum, grow some balls and do it. don't just take bitchy passive-aggressive potshots at me.

[Antihero]

my tits are as calm as a goddamn sunset, thank you very much

[Antihero]

ur dummmmbbbb

huehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehuehue

[Antihero]

...are we waiting on jordan or what?

[Antihero]

no

[Antihero]

yeah, magua might actually be scum

[Antihero]

want to explain how mollie and i made our way to your scumlist or are you just going to snore through that too?

[Antihero]

right.

gotta keep the voting pool open for down the road, or you're hosed.

[Antihero]

hint: you might want to wait a couple days before the aliens magically migrate to your scumlist. people may forget about the pie lynch by then.

[Antihero]

ITT antihero somehow rose above suspicion?

[Antihero]

No, Ythan, ITT Antihero says people who give a reads list are scum trying to line up mislynches. Instead, we should follow his lead of never giving a goddamn read of anyone. Problem solved.

damn, are you ALL on your periods?

yeah, two people moving from townlist to scumlist for no reason is scum lining up mislynches.

[Antihero]

mollie's been going ballistic about an assortment of things since i replaced in (waffles, ut), and the flavor thing is what's really getting you?

[Antihero]

oh, sorry

MOLIE IZ SO STOOOOPID
Vote: mollie

hueueueheueheuehue

there, am i "doing something" now? because this is all you've been doing

[Antihero]

why isn't anyone howling for a full flavorclaim from ythan?

the role and the actions are all already out there.
...or do you all just prefer to be dicks to me?

[Antihero]

well then it's me

asking

reck has already asked himself and ythan hasn't said anything so i don't think i'm going to get any further

[Antihero]

2 scum joats seems too top heavy

UNVOTE:

the only thing that's 100% proven is the daykill but a vig on claimed survivor makes enough sense

[Antihero]

ythan, waffles, ut, and aliens are off the table

procrastinating on iec, i guess, since he's a lurksack and his role ... complicates things

magua's being a dick so it's hard for me to be objective about him, but his heart's probably in the right place (the bizarre obsession with mollie's flavor notwithstanding)

gamma's a claimed cop and cheery dog's kind of fallen off the map, but he's a claimed cop clear, so there's that

axxle's just kinda there. axxle voted for pie, though, and there was very little incentive for scum to do that especially with all the tantalizing targets around.

jordan's also just kinda there

i have a scum read on Fate, but i'm not that confident in that since reck said something about fate being town blheajhfe

[Antihero]

oh, meant to put you in the "off the table" list

yeah, if that was a bus job, you, mala, and desperado need to form an improv group after this

[Antihero]

Formerfish replaces jordan you whiny fags.

hey...

...i'm not whiny...

[Antihero]

LOLOLODSLJAK;F;LKEJSA;LJF;LKDSAJF;JDSA;LFJOISAEJLI;

VOTE: formerfish

[Antihero]

well...

there's another win that i completely didn't earn...

[Antihero]

Wait who is FF's brother.

#curiousmod

P.S: Well Im neither of those things! Oh wait nope

desperado

COME ON AP, WE LEARNED THIS IN HARD BOILED

[Antihero]

yeah, plus fate is competent enough to know miller claim in 1st post is obvious play

scumfish needs frying

[Antihero]

3 more votes, then we can end this

come on waffles, take that down to 2

[Antihero]

I am not reading the thread, just saying. Did my pred claim miller yet? Cause I'm totes that.

I am not reading the thread, just saying. Did my pred claim miller yet? Cause I'm totes that.

I am not reading the thread, just saying. Did my pred claim miller yet? Cause I'm totes that.

I am not reading the thread, just saying. Did my pred claim miller yet? Cause I'm totes that.

I am not reading the thread, just saying. Did my pred claim miller yet? Cause I'm totes that.

I am not reading the thread, just saying. Did my pred claim miller yet? Cause I'm totes that.

I am not reading the thread, just saying. Did my pred claim miller yet? Cause I'm totes that.

[Antihero]

"it was just a jokeszzzzz"

in 3...2...1...

[Antihero]

no

take

backsies

[Antihero]

and thinking that "did my pred claim miller? i'm totes that." is a miller claim isn't much of a stretch.

actually... it's not a stretch at all, since THAT'S A MILLER CLAIM

[Antihero]

do it


doooooooooooooooo
itttttttttttttttttttttt

[Antihero]

yay! we won, absolutely no thanks to me.

good job, town

[Antihero]

Also antihero just obvtowned somehow.

Not really, he was in my 3 to lunch today.

really? it would have made sense for scum-me to bus pie out of nowhere?

i knew there weren't any bussers on that pie wagon.