The Reckoning III (Math is Hard) Holy crap, perfect town win

[Porochaz]

then why the heck would you move your vote from me if you thought it was a legit scumtell?

It was a joke! All that's happening here is that I made a joke in my first post and you didn't get it. Of course I don't think "laugh if you're scum" is an applicable scumtell on the forum, I was just explaining because I was sad that you didn't get the reference. Or maybe you did get the reference and I didn't get that your comeback was an acknowledgement of it (it didn't seem like it?).

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#97 is the silliest post in the world but Waffles can be town for it.

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In other news, I'll sheep the UT vote...
UNVOTE: ActionDan, VOTE: Untrod Tripod
...and see if I can figure out what the hell Fate is blathering on about. I only reread Balto on Friday but still...

None at all remember this? Sad times.

Also hi

[Porochaz]

Reread the game. Most people are town. Scum probably haven't posted yet. *coughProzaccough*

Is that the bunny of towniness coming towards me? I think so

[Porochaz]

This whole thread was as boring as fuck by the way.

vote whatever hydra kittymo is in

Not forgiven yet

Pressing the reset button on this game, it sadly needs it.

[Porochaz]

Seeing if they'd actually choose a different suit that in the f2f games would be town alignment.

Therefore they're hinting at being town, and I might trust them for now.

Wait, what? "Hinting at being town"...er we'll explicitly claim it? Is that better? (Are you, uh trying to imply the avatar thing was some sort of trap or some test? IDG what you're saying?)

Prozac's post is pretty boring, especially since I think there are reads available throughout the thread.

If watching Mollie and the various alts getting their knickers in a twist about fuck all and start getting pissy with each other and watching reck and fate fail to communicate then I must be playing this game wrong. 7 pages read, that is all I got.

[Porochaz]

The flaw is that tammy is probably not reading them in your voice, therefore when you say fuck off, it sounds aggressive. It does. Trust me. Most of us know otherwise but she doesn't.

And then its become a clusterfuck of stuff I actually glaze over when reading. Because it essentially boils down to a misunderstanding then over-reactions from both sides.

In other news, I've decided the CDB wagon is awful and you should all feel increasingly bad about it. Especially Axxle.

[Porochaz]

DeathNote has been killed.

He was Porochaz almost having the cops called on him

and was a

Town Miller

The vote count has been reset. I'll format this and more in a bit..

Sad that the (2nd) beer pong team has split...

[Porochaz]

also when the fuck did Poro almost get the cops called on him? what?

Early on, went for a walk, woman thought I was in her garden staring into her window. Wasn't. Used mafiascum skillz to convince her cop guilty was wrong.

Also,

vote Axxle

[Porochaz]

Voting me even though you implied you had scumread(s) earlier that weren't me.

Vote this to death people.

Er, WTF? Show your working.

This

And bear in mind this, this and this.

And this do not match.

[Porochaz]

Ok so I've had enough.

I am on page 14, but I saw the reply and the reason why.

I think I'm speaking on behalf of the majority of people here.

Shut the fuck up.

I mean it. That thing you are about to say, not worth it.

You are both fucking adults, grow up.

Otherwise I'm replacing out. I'm not here to be in a personal bitchfest between two people I consider friends.

[Porochaz]

Voting me even though you implied you had scumread(s) earlier that weren't me.

Vote this to death people.

Er, WTF? Show your working.

This

And bear in mind this, this and this.

And this do not match.

This post is outdated and I do not care for it anymore.

[Porochaz]

I'd like some real content from Prozac as I can't read him at all right now (and I'd like his vote off of Axxle, but.) Cheery looks kinda bad for the DeathNote vote and forced question to mollie. Fate is town as fuck though I'm a bit underwhelmed by the CDB wagon.

Yeah my votes not coming off Axxle. With no strong reads, my mild scum read on Axxle is what Im going on.

[Porochaz]

I don't understand.

CDB was clearly making a joke there. Im not sure what else you can read from it.

[Porochaz]

I feel like I should point out that I have, at some point in the last year or two, successfully attained the level of "can willingly sustain consistent posting as scum". My ego demands basic recognition.

lies...

[Porochaz]

@Prozac...what are your scumreads?

Honestly, Im struggling, I have a minor scumread on Axxle, I didn't like the CDB vote but had a gut scum read on him before.

Cheery Dog also.

I have a mollie town read and Im going back and forth on CDB.

The rest have kind of merged into the background or Im struggling to differentiate between forum and f2f play.

[Porochaz]

Seeing if they'd actually choose a different suit that in the f2f games would be town alignment.

Therefore they're hinting at being town, and I might trust them for now.

Wait, what? "Hinting at being town"...er we'll explicitly claim it? Is that better? (Are you, uh trying to imply the avatar thing was some sort of trap or some test? IDG what you're saying?)

Prozac's post is pretty boring, especially since I think there are reads available throughout the thread.

Tell me what reads you had from before this post. I've looked through and beyond getting a few slight townreads, I don't see anything worth looking at, at this point.

[Porochaz]

On page 10 and Im falling asleep. I have minor reads on people, and a scumread I might look over again if he doesn't get better in the next 19 pages.

UT/Dan/Eleven look pretty town at this point, and I will explain any scumreads at the end and hopefully dig into them a bit more.

[Porochaz]

On page 10 and Im falling asleep. I have minor reads on people, and a scumread I might look over again if he doesn't get better in the next 19 pages.

UT/Dan/Eleven look pretty town at this point, and I will explain any scumreads at the end and hopefully dig into them a bit more.

[Porochaz]

VOTE: CDB

Waffles seems town to me. I don't understand why she's asking some of her questions, but most are coming from a town frame of mind from what I can tell.

This vote is what is mainly bugging me about Axxle, I think it stems from the fact that it comes straight after Fate and mollies conversation where Fate states CDB is scum. Now to be honest here, CDB's alignment is slight town to me at this point, I mean the only salient point is the whole mollie laughing thing which I remember and clearly understood it as a joke (especially since we weren't even 10 posts in). However back to the point, when mollie and fate had this conversation, I realised there was actually no case on CDB, then Axxle swooped in and put down a baseless vote. I either read from that he was looking for an easy wagon, supported by the YNGO vote, which whilst not baseless, was a bit meh, or he is psychic.

I am going for the former here.

Also, exactly what you want to hear, but I have the flu at the moment so my activity might be a bit rough.

[Porochaz]

I would like for Axxle to explain his vote on me.

Short answer: I wanted to move my vote somewhere useful and wasn't feeling any of the other wagons.

Long answer: Originally I just sheeped fate since that's easy. But looking at the current wagons I feel a lot better about it. Didn't want to vote for someone without a vote already, that includes cheery who only has rvs votes and eaglekit who hasn't posted yet. I don't really want to bother with Eleven/mollie/waffles. Triforce just got here and seem fine. I'm not going to sheep YNGO. The UT votes seem lazy and you happen to be one of them. You have the biggest wagon already.

Iec's claim is probably town regardless of if his name shows up on the hammer assuming he didn't know in the first place.

Why? Think it's more natural to assume it would show up (It'd be super weird if it didn't, if he's scum he'd definitely assume it shows up as SECRET HAMMERER seems kind of retarded as a scum role).

If he claimed without knowing, then it's pretty unlikely that he's scum. As scum people generally want to iron out the details of their role/claim before they claim. The actual answer is irrelevant because of how loose the claim itself was.

He only *said* he didn't know, that doesn't mean he didn't know.

Appears I missed the reasoning post. It doesn't really change my reasoning at all.

[Porochaz]

so I don't quite know why people think CDB is scum? I mean I didn't really have a read on him for a while (there was one

small

thing that I caught that might've been scummy but other than that, nothing) but his posts the past day or twoish haven't struck me as scummy so unless I'm missing something he seems like some sort of... compromise wagon? is that the right phrase? I mean I may disagree with him (e.g. wagoning Nuwen 488) but nothing's jumped out at me that makes me want to lynch it.

I could go and see who's been pushing his lynch all lazy-like since it's probably more likely there's scum doing

that

than him being scum, but I can't be assed to right now because DRINKING so I'll believe and sheep whoever wants to do the hard work <3

but in the meantime Triforce vote is fine. I could maaaaybe vote Axxle or something because he's been pretty useless the past few pages but I feel like I've voted him for being useless and he's flipped town a bunch

plus

I already yelled at someone earlier for doing that so I dunno. ythan should shoot him if he has another shot IMO.

Also Gamma is givin me the willie nillies not because he's scummy but because he's being useful which is anti gamma meta. like it's not town or scum it's just not gamma

I dunno, I've seen "WIFOM Gamma" at least once or twice and this is what he's doing here, so I think he's pretty town (see: .

wish I could care more about this game but I'm just super lazy.

Damnit pie, you had to make a post I like, who the hell (sans Axxle) should I think is scum now.

As a PSA, I don't know who is posting in the alts, and I get confused who is in what so can we keep to using alt names or at least Faraday/Eleven type things.

Can anyone tell me if this is the way mala and desperado usually play? Im trying to read if there general lack of disinterest and failure to do anything of note could be construed as a scumread.

[Porochaz]

Slightly premature considering (I think) the people who had suspicion of you were already voting you.

Anyway having read through the whole game, I am really happy with my Axxle vote, I haven't seen anything town from him yet. A lot of votes, little reasoning, even the little he has given has been a bit shitty. A little bit of sheeping and generally just a scummy demeanor.

Actiondan would be second, he seems to have all but disappeared since suspicion was placed on him.

Eaglekit has been off but I don't know Desperados play. I haven't liked what I've seen so far. Waiting for Mala to appease my fears.

As for the rest, its an unpopular stance but CDB is relatively town, his frustration at the awful wagon is evident. Mollie is clearly town. Fate can be town as well, not as convinced but can't see him taking the actions he has as town. Then there are the obvious townies like Ythan, Iec.

Pie was quite scummy, and who I was referencing before, but he made a post which collated a large amount of my thoughts almost to the letter, that doesn't make him auto-town, but its comforting when you've read the first half of a game where people have given the opposite reads to what you have.

There is still a lot of null people in this game for me. I really want Nuwen to show me some sort of basis of which I can read her. I want the hydras to separate a bit so it stops being confusing and I want Reck to get off the defence.

[Porochaz]

I am done. Now if I don't post for a few days its cause Im recovering.

[Porochaz]

On the basis of claiming survivor the way Triforce did (prematurely) and the basis of their claim I think at this juncture it doesn't make much sense to lynch them now when there are other scummier candidates available. I am pretty happy with Axxle scum but the fact that ActionDan hasn't done anything since the initial suspicion of him died away means I would rather see him lynched today.

vote actiondan

PEdit: There he is. Hi Dan, save your skin time, do you want to you know, make some thoughts before taking the easy way out? (voting the counter wagon without adding anything useful)

I mean granted be butthurt with cdb all you want, but the fact is, he and others have points against you that are valid and until you give us something to go on, I don't see any reason to think you are town.

[Porochaz]

poro the points against me are that I lurk.

In your few posts you focused solely on CDB, and latterly the survivor claim. You have made no indication any reads or had any real interaction with any other player. Nor have you really made any effort to do so. You disappeared when the initial suspicion against you died down, and you have only come back now that you are in danger of being lynched.

Now, I may have touched on it as a side thing there, but lurking only comes into minorly...

[Porochaz]

I really wanted a punchier last line there. Sad times.

[Porochaz]

Will echo the sentiment, glad town won, glad I didnt have to read it.

[Porochaz]

Yeah I should say thanks for modding!!!