In post 6843, CarbonFiber wrote:If you've been reading the game, you'd have noticed that there was really no chance of anything other than a Cupcake lynch happening. I pushed AP against Cupcake but no one was listening and I just sort of gave up because some people seemed determine to push through the Cupcake lynch and not consider that AP was scum. And if the Cupcake lynch was happening, I wanted it to happen sooner rather than later. As for voting, please don't ask me why I am voting or not voting any particular player or when I choose to vote or not vote. You are not going to get anywhere.
Day 2, I suspected Mastin with AP as a second suspect. Mastin wagon was what was happening. That was the lynch that was going to go through - the one on my top suspect so naturally I pushed that lynch harder. I wondered if Mastin was town a few times before deadline and that's why I suggested lynching AP. I guess it is not impossible for scum to keep their buddies as their second/third suspects while pushing town lynches but the entire interaction between AP and me since he joined the game makes it unlikely that we are buddies and it should be fairly obvious to anyone. In any case, what is your read on AP? Are you scumreading him?
I suspect you =/= setting you up for a lynch. You've been doing this with nearly everyone that suspects you in this game. I said I liked DV's analysis and effort into the JSU/AP/Cupcake team but I didn't like a lot of the other posts that I linked above.
Also, if you suspect a me/AP team, quit being completely ridiculous and help me lynch him then.
Well the whole Cupcake lynch/AP thing is what I want to investigate, and I may as well do it along with the rest of your ISO. I plan to get onto that tonight.
I think my AP read is as it was when I posted my reads list last night, and as indicated there, I currently think you more likely scum than him, but as I also said there, I feel that apart from JSU and Titan (and who actually knows with them really?) I don't have a good grasp on the game at all.
Well of course you're going to say that you're not setting me up for a lynch. Even now you could go back on it and find me scummy enough to lynch or whatever. You said you liked my catch-up walls (I'm pretty sure this more accurately describes the posts you just said you don't like than JSU/Cupcake/AP but I plan on thinking about that as I ISO) and then you said you didn't, so obviously if you're scum that kind of thing is not beyond you.
I do worry about being too OMGUSy, but I feel like I've had good reason every time I have lashed out at someone for suspecting me, and it's not like I've ever relentlessly pushed a lynch because of it. With Stalin, ffery was using something as a scumtell that applied to the two main town games we shared. Nacho is nacho, and with you, it seems like you have contradicted yourself (although I am cautious about this) and I've explained why I think your response to my agreement with Tammy was kind of bad.
There's also the fact that unless the scum are all among the top universal townreads (in which case we're all probably doomed anyway) they're probably running out of mislynches to procure, and even though I think we've been really town, we're obviously not townread strongly by anyone with a lot of influence, so it makes complete sense that scum would want us lynched, and we're probably one of the easier ones left to get. So even though I'm not going to get carried away with ranting about people suspecting me, I'm definitely going to consider it and pressure people where I can.
In post 6844, CarbonFiber wrote: In post 6842, The Fox and the Hound wrote:
Also, my point was that there was nothing in that post that actually refuted what I was concerned about (probably not what Tammy was concerned about either), so you thinking like that was some big deal struck me as really odd and possibly struggling to find a reason to scumread us.
I think we are referring to different things. I was referring to more of Tammy's push on me about "coming up with new ways that AP is scum" while ignoring my multitude of posts pointing out that AP was doing the same thing so it felt odd that you went "oh, I agree" instead of "isn't AP doing it too?" I didn't realize your actual fear was both AP and I being scum.
Also, I take back what I wrote about helping me lynch AP in my previous post. I got serious again after swearing I'd let AP and Nacho win and congratulate them at endgame so. It if up to the town to figure shit out and I'm not going to push the town into lynching my scumspects.
See this is what confuses me. Everyone always goes on about how having good reads is only half the battle, and it has been mentioned many a time that my lack of confidence impedes me in this regard, but this kind of attitude surprises me from you and has me wondering whether you're only justifying it so that it fits with your play this game.
And if you are town I'm really sorry for losing it earlier.
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Usually we're either townbuddies or scumbuddies though so it's ok!