MS Fantasy Camp 2: Reaper's Tale! (Finished!)

xRECKONERx · Post Post #151 (isolation #0) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:09 am

yeah im not reading the SIX PAGES you guys have put up since game start, way too busy

but who wants to see a picture of my dick?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #337 (isolation #1) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:48 am

I didn't bookmark the thread and forgot this was a thing

mmmmmmmm. but am i really gonna read 14 pages?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #338 (isolation #2) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 5:49 am

Read page 7-8.

Sangres posted a lot and that's obnoxious so

VOTE: sangres

yes I get the irony btw

xRECKONERx · Post Post #357 (isolation #3) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:28 pm

VOTE: tim howard

xRECKONERx · Post Post #360 (isolation #4) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 4:09 pm

mmmmm yes tell me more about why my laziness means I am scum

xRECKONERx · Post Post #405 (isolation #5) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:23 am

In post 363, Zdenek wrote:
In post 360, xRECKONERx wrote:mmmmm yes tell me more about why my laziness means I am scum
Poor Reck, caught for the wrong reasons.

your a idiot

xRECKONERx · Post Post #406 (isolation #6) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:33 am

In post 404, Tim Howard wrote:Also, Reck is voting for me day 1, what a gigantic surprise. *eyeroll*

I'm sorry do we have a history somewhere I don't know about that involves me voting you D1 a lot

xRECKONERx · Post Post #407 (isolation #7) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:34 am

FWIW reading through this game I'm wondering if the mods are pulling a great big joke on me and I'm the only townie vs a bunch of multiball scum factions because every post is nails on a chalkboard

xRECKONERx · Post Post #409 (isolation #8) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:46 am

wait why

They just have a really big persecution complex but experience dictates that a persecution complex does not make someone mafia.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #411 (isolation #9) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:56 am

mmm let's talk about this kats wagon tho

xRECKONERx · Post Post #413 (isolation #10) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:01 am

tbf I'm kinda scumreading zde too

xRECKONERx · Post Post #421 (isolation #11) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:31 am

In post 412, Untrod Tripod wrote:this doesn't look like a persecution complex so much as a scum hydra trying to play good cop bad cop so people will feel guilty for scumreading them. mayyyyyyyybe I'm super bad at reading hydras, but it looks to me like damage control from a scum perspective rather than a town one

I just want to double check and make sure you're saying you genuinely believe that Nexus/Quadz sat down as scum and devised a plan in which one of them would be the good guy and one would be the bad guy in order to... uh... I guess... make people feel guilty?

Like you actually think these types of things are conversations that hydra partners have? Seriously?

We're not dealing with heady theoreticals here, we're dealing with like, actual players playing an actual game.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #422 (isolation #12) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:32 am

In post 416, Untrod Tripod wrote:I mean meta is trash yadda yadda but I'm still not seeing any scum motivations for his reads or actions? he's poking players, asking useful questions, his votes have been well explained. the framer claim is weird but I really just want to shrug at it because the rest of his play looks town to me

Nothing about his play looks very town to me but I could also be biased and blinded because he used the stupid fucking "scum caught for the wrong reasons" tell against me which is something I cannot fucking stomach.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #423 (isolation #13) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:33 am

Jesus Christ yeah, I just saw where UT called Zdenek's votes "well explained". Are you even reading this game?

I feel slimy jumping off of the wagon because it feels very much like quadz could be scum and just happen to be right as well but I feel slimier being on this wagon with Nobody Special and Untrod "Talk Out Of My Ass" Tripod and Shadoweh.

VOTE: Zdenek

xRECKONERx · Post Post #425 (isolation #14) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:41 am

@ZDENEK:

Is your framer ability compulsive?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #429 (isolation #15) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:53 am

In post 427, Zdenek wrote:Nope.

Okay, more comfortable with my vote on you, then.

Why would a

town framer

ever use his ability if it isn't compulsive? The only way a

town framer

works is if it's negative utility, and it's only negative utility if it's compulsive. Not believing the claim.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #430 (isolation #16) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:55 am

In post 427, Zdenek wrote:Wow, I was right about Reck. I mean he's voting me for things completely unrelated to me. Unless he thinks I'm scum for suggesting that he's scum caught for the wrong reasons, in which case, LOL at Reck.

"I was right about Reck" -- in response to my vote on you? So are you saying me voting you lends credence to your reasons for finding me scummy? What exactly were you "right" about... that I was scum caught for the wrong reasons? What "reasons"? Do you mean NS just saying I need to die with no actual reasons whatsoever? Because that's pretty contradictory. How was I "caught"? From the ONE (1) vote on me?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #433 (isolation #17) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:36 am

In post 431, Zdenek wrote:If you are town, you should probably go read the opening posts.

"Alignments were randomized" means independent of flavor not independent of roles. Like, that's WHY THEY TOOK SO LONG to start the game after the signups were done, because they were DESIGNING THE SETUP. They didn't go "Oh here's a framer" then go "WHOOPS THE FRAMER IS TOWN".

xRECKONERx · Post Post #434 (isolation #18) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:39 am

In post 432, Zdenek wrote:
In post 430, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 427, Zdenek wrote:Wow, I was right about Reck. I mean he's voting me for things completely unrelated to me. Unless he thinks I'm scum for suggesting that he's scum caught for the wrong reasons, in which case, LOL at Reck.
"I was right about Reck" -- in response to my vote on you? So are you saying me voting you lends credence to your reasons for finding me scummy? What exactly were you "right" about... that I was scum caught for the wrong reasons? What "reasons"? Do you mean NS just saying I need to die with no actual reasons whatsoever? Because that's pretty contradictory. How was I "caught"? From the ONE (1) vote on me?
I am saying that I was right about you being scum caught for the wrong reasons.
It not you voting me that lends credence to me finding you scummy - it's that you voted me for reasons that either have nothing to do with me or nothing to do with my alignment.

Again... I guess I'll repeat...

I was scum caught for the wrong reasons? What "reasons"? Do you mean NS just saying I need to die with no actual reasons whatsoever? Because that's pretty contradictory. How was I "caught"? From the ONE (1) vote on me?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #438 (isolation #19) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:31 am

That's a bunch of noncommittal wishywashy bullshit from the mods so people don't try to outguess the setup.

If we're going to assume both statements are true, why the FUCK would they leave a town non-compulsive framer in the setup?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #440 (isolation #20) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:40 am

It's not just setup speculation.

If he was a compulsive town framer, I could understand the immediate claim.

He's not compulsive, though, so instead of casting suspicion on himself and causing chaos, he could've just shut the fuck up and not claimed and not used his ability.

In post 48, Zdenek wrote:
I know that scum don't have a framer because I'm a framer.

Thought you all should know too.

Nobody had mentioned framing.

Nobody had probably even thought about framing because it's such a weird role.

Why waste time claiming it and stirring the pot? You're not compulsive, just DON'T USE THE ABILITY and shut up about it.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #442 (isolation #21) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:42 am

I just don't see a pro-town motivation behind his actions if he is, in fact, a non-compulsive framer.

I

do

see scum motivation in claiming a negative utility role on D1 for town points, though.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #444 (isolation #22) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:47 am

It lets town know that scum don't have a rare/obscure role that nobody would probably expect them to have anyway?

It's not like you went, "No wait, there's no framer!" in response to someone claiming results or something. You just claimed it unprovoked Day 1.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #462 (isolation #23) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 3:32 pm

In post 449, Sixty wrote:I (and presumably the other puppyhalf who has more experience with Zdenek) don't really think Z is scum. Assuming for a moment that Tim Howard is Town based on ChannelDelibird insisting he's not pulling his read out of his arse, would you be interested in compromising onto Untrod Tripod?

Oh I'll compromise

all over

Untrod Tripod

xRECKONERx · Post Post #506 (isolation #24) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:15 pm

yesterday??

xRECKONERx · Post Post #508 (isolation #25) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:22 pm

oh I'm sorry I guess I got confused because we're playing a mafia game and when people refer to days and nights and yesterday and etc they usually mean game phases not literal real life timeframes since those are pretty fucking irrelevant in context

xRECKONERx · Post Post #510 (isolation #26) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:51 pm

can you not be a massive cunt or is this just your default

xRECKONERx · Post Post #511 (isolation #27) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 2:52 pm

and to answer your question: I haven't really played in any Faraday games WHOA SHIT WHAT A MINDFUCK WOWOWOWOWWOW

xRECKONERx · Post Post #515 (isolation #28) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:13 pm

IIRC the whole "claiming Framer D1" thing was secondary but I don't really have anywhere else I want to jump

xRECKONERx · Post Post #521 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:48 pm

In post 517, Sixty wrote:Lynch All These People
Shadoweh
chamber (some misgivings on this since I haven't thought too hard about what just happened)
Plum
kaney
Untrod Tripod
Katsuki (but UT is correct that this could very well be TownKats, if anyone factors that into lynching that playstyle)
Nero Cain (but I haven't really been reading Nero Cain's posts ITT)
Reck

i disagree with my placement on this list TBQH

im assuming this is Tierce's doing bc she sucks at reading me and I'd expect better from Vi

xRECKONERx · Post Post #523 (isolation #30) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:51 pm

did I just preempt Tierce voting me by saying she can't read me?

that's cute

xRECKONERx · Post Post #524 (isolation #31) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:51 pm

tierce/vi, question:

do u know ur not actually a dog?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #525 (isolation #32) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:52 pm

tierce/vi, another question:

do you have a dayguilty on UT or something that is causing you to

hunt his buddies

instead of him or something because a vote on me being specifically tied to UT being scum makes actually no sense unless you know UT is scum

xRECKONERx · Post Post #526 (isolation #33) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:53 pm

tierce/vi, an addendum to the above question:

do not actually claim if u r a day cop, i am being 'hyper ballec' to make a point ab how ridiccc it is u 2 r votin me 4 not votin UT

xRECKONERx · Post Post #528 (isolation #34) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:58 pm

wut is that

xRECKONERx · Post Post #529 (isolation #35) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:58 pm

hey tierce/vi, reiterated question in a new phrasing:

y r u votin me 4 bein UT's buddy when UT isn't flipped?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #550 (isolation #36) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:12 pm

In post 530, Sixty wrote:Hint: we're not.

but... but...

In post 522, Sixty wrote:After Reck ignoring UT and then flailing at Shadoweh on this page, I'd much rather have this one.

In post 517, Sixty wrote:Lynch All These People
Shadoweh
chamber (some misgivings on this since I haven't thought too hard about what just happened)
Plum
kaney

Untrod Tripod

Katsuki (but UT is correct that this could very well be TownKats, if anyone factors that into lynching that playstyle)
Nero Cain (but I haven't really been reading Nero Cain's posts ITT)
Reck

why is me ignoring UT bad unless you think he's scum?

I've ignored a significant portion of the playerlist, why are you focusing on my ignoring of UT so much?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #572 (isolation #37) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:23 am

In post 554, Shadoweh wrote:I'm comparing Reck's Day 1 from FoG to this one (use the meta you know etc.) and he was alot more aggressive, both with votes and just bothering people. I'd be pointing out UT in particular regarding you too, specifically, you were calling out his reasoning for TH's persecution complex while.. voting for Tim Howard. Considering the way you were voting what came out of place in FoG, if you thought UT was using scummy reasoning earlier I think you would have voted him, and you implied you thought he was scummy? ("I'd compromise all over him" isn't exactly the most serious statement..) I guess I'm basically asking what your opinion is on him, besides someone Sixty thinks is your scumbuddy.

What the hell is FoG?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #573 (isolation #38) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:24 am

And I don't really have a solid read on UT. I think every time I've played with him I end up thinking he's scummy and going after him Day 1. I'm trying to just kind of stumble my way through Day 1 by yelling at the things that move near me and hoping I'm right.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #574 (isolation #39) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 7:33 am

In post 566, Sixty wrote:
In post 550, xRECKONERx wrote:why is me ignoring UT bad unless you think he's scum?

I've ignored a significant portion of the playerlist, why are you focusing on my ignoring of UT so much?
Reck: I VOTE ZDENEK btw UT is scum
Sixty: Zdenek is more likely to be Town. Wanna vote UT instead?
Reck: sure
Sixty: *votes UT*
Reck: *complains about some other totally irrelevant thing instead of actually trying to get things done E.G. LIKE VOTE UT*
Sixty: lol vote Reck
Reck: b'aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaw but at least I have another person to engage in a rather meaningless one-on-one over some flimsy point

First off, I believe I said I'd "compromise" on UT, which does not mean voting him now. Compromise lynches are a much, much later in Day 1 affair.

Second off, I never said UT was scum. I disagreed with two things:
1) UT implied the two heads of Tim Howard sat down in their scum-hydra-QT and decided, "Hey, I know! I'll be the good cop, you be the bad cop! It'll make people feel guilty about voting us!" which is not an actual conversation I think a hydra has ever had, ever, in the history of the game of mafia.
2) UT calls Zdenek's votes "well explained" which is just false.

Did you know you can disagree with someone without thinking they are scum? I know, I know --

shocking

revelation! I even said, in the post where I voted Zdenek, that UT was just talking out of his ass. He does this. I honestly don't think UT pays very much attention to the games he's in, like me. He just kind of bullshits his way through until something big happens. I don't think it's alignment indicative. He could still be scum. He could still be town. My disagreement with him is completely null on his alignment, but thanks for putting words in my mouth (I mean for fuck's sake I never even called him scummy).

Third off, can you explain how engaging people who go after me or who catch my eye in one-on-one conversation is meaningless? I mean, I think your adjectives are pretty and everything, but they kind of fall flat. Why is me gaining reads meaningless? What is it that makes my points "flimsy" over anything else that is being discussed (like the fucking color of the vote counts)? Or are you just being elitist pricks and trying to be condescending because you're Tierce/Vi?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #594 (isolation #40) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:06 pm

In post 578, Sixty wrote:We can talk about how attempting to engage with easy targets only about setup speculation and lolroles is pretty easy for scum to do but that would get into a conversation about how your follow-up to this alleged suspicion on Shadoweh was basically a set of personal attacks and attempting to gotcha! your way into a scumslip.

whaaaaat

no she was just bein a cunt

xRECKONERx · Post Post #597 (isolation #41) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:18 pm

ittts bc theyre not godo theyir names r just pretty

xRECKONERx · Post Post #598 (isolation #42) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:19 pm

that wa s at ut im gointo to get water abecause i think ill puke

xRECKONERx · Post Post #642 (isolation #43) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:57 pm

In post 615, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 574, xRECKONERx wrote: Second off, I never said UT was scum. I disagreed with two things:
1) UT implied the two heads of Tim Howard sat down in their scum-hydra-QT and decided, "Hey, I know! I'll be the good cop, you be the bad cop! It'll make people feel guilty about voting us!" which is not an actual conversation I think a hydra has ever had, ever, in the history of the game of mafia.
If I could prove this to be wrong, would you proxy your vote to me for the rest of the game?

there is literally no way that would ever happen shy of financial payoff

xRECKONERx · Post Post #665 (isolation #44) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 6:24 am

Lld wtf

xRECKONERx · Post Post #713 (isolation #45) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 3:53 am

it's zombie jesus day and im outta town with sketchy internet access kty

xRECKONERx · Post Post #721 (isolation #46) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 6:56 am

In post 714, Sixty wrote:xRECKONERx - Reasons already given (backpedaling, convenient votes, what exactly was that Zdenek/Shadoweh reasoning supposed to be anyway, etc.). Placed this high because Tammy said so.

this is really bad and like blatanly ignores actual content/posts in thread or does moonbeam gymnastics to reason around those posts

xRECKONERx · Post Post #873 (isolation #47) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:33 am

Sorry about being inactive. Zombie Jesus Weekend ate up all of my time, and I had to deal with some reaaaaaaaal bullshit yesterday.

I'm gonna sheep chamber for now.

VOTE: Sixty

Oh it also helps that they pushed a realbad case on me. Time to check and see if they ever responded to my criticisms!

xRECKONERx · Post Post #874 (isolation #48) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:36 am

@Shadoweh: What is the "FoG" game you're referencing?

So Sixty basically just backed down from me without really saying anything? That's sketch

xRECKONERx · Post Post #875 (isolation #49) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 10:36 am

I'm going to justfy my vote after the fact by hanging a lampshade

xRECKONERx · Post Post #881 (isolation #50) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 11:17 am

Holy shit wow I do NOT remember being in that game at all.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #919 (isolation #51) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:33 pm

In post 904, sangres wrote:
VOTE: Reck

In post 915, Venmar wrote:>.>

<.<

vote reck

why thoo

xRECKONERx · Post Post #920 (isolation #52) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:36 pm

In post 894, Sixty wrote:It has nothing to do with Reck insulting you, but the fact that he's making up stuff about us not responding to him. He's pretending to have actually read us when he was just skimming and using whatever argument was convenient for him at the time to justify a horrible vote.

And simulposting because puppy be mad and puppy does
not
have a cape.

I may be able to arrange for a mask, though. Photoshop ho!

No, your case was a cute little narrative built on things that aren't true? You implied I was trying to get a wagon on Shadoweh in your post; I explained that she was just being rude as fuck and I didn't want a wagon on her. You ignore it.

But whatever, I can't wait for my inevitable push to L-1 where I'll claim and people will back down then you two will keep your heads planed so far up your own fucking assholes that you will continue to be wrong the rest of the game and nobody will bat an eye and I'll eventually get lynched then come in and be a fucking cunt to Tierce post-game.

It's beautiful, really.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #922 (isolation #53) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:37 pm

In post 899, chamber wrote:
In post 892, Vi wrote:
In post 891, Shadoweh wrote:insults don't really bother me as much as people being wrong.
Reck is doing both as evidenced above. You should be sufficiently bothered by this to vote him.
Whats bothering me is that he's sheeping me. I never got the impression that he had a very positive opinion of my ability.

I don't think I've ever given the impression of the opposite? You've been around awhile, I generally respect most people with a join date older than mine unless I have specific reasons not to

xRECKONERx · Post Post #931 (isolation #54) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:48 pm

@chamber: I guess I can see how you'd get that impression. I think what I meant there was more along the lines of, "chamber is someone who would call someone else out for not reading a page of the game" which isn't how I play. I don't disrespect your play.

@Sixty: I don't know which of you made the posts on this page, but Tierce fucking knows better after her play in Scummies Invitational. I also just got done fending off shitty wagons on me in The Reckoning III invitational; I also just got defeated by Nuwen being super fucking shitty and pushing bad wagons on me, but she was scum. I think, given the track record, I don't really care if a wagon on me is scum driven or town driven. My default assumption is that it's town because it's more likely that it's town due to numbers and it's more fun to rage and bitch about how bad someone is than try and discern if they're stupid town or scum.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #935 (isolation #55) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:53 pm

In post 933, Sixty wrote:No, chamberoweh. You know why? Because the last time I pushed Reck (Fall of Gondolin) and he had a fit (and took his sweet time insulting me to Valinor and back, because Reck cannot play like a normal person), I was scum. He has no reason to think we are Town and
still be voting us
, frustration or not. That's sheer bullshitting and I cannot believe people even consider buying that. He's attempting to use Scummies Invitational as reasoning and hell let's ignore Tierce-scum in Fall of Gondolin #YOLO.

And Reck being a "cunt" to people? Oh, big surprise there.

WHO THE FUCK IS POSTING THIS

and HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHO IT IS

if it's Tierce pushing me hard, then no, Fall of Gondolin is blah blah blah zzzzzzzzz I don't even remember that game and I didn't even remember that game (I do remember Scummies Invitational however)

if it's Vi, then I don't remember like any interactions with you ever

xRECKONERx · Post Post #939 (isolation #56) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:55 pm

In post 934, Sixty wrote:And guess what?

Tierce was pushing SCUM in Scummies Invitational. So yeah, I couldn't read Reck. Then he goes into Fall of Gondolin, insults me left and right, and I flip scum and naaaah let's ignore all this and vote Sixty while sheeping chamber who he totally respects except not really and justify this vote on Sixty with lies and yep yep just frustrated with all this meta of bad wagons for shitty reasons

Also woof.

LOL

I REPLACED OUT

DAY ONE

YOU WERE LYNCHED

DAY SIX

are you seriously trying to say I'm "ignoring" Fall of Gondolin when 1) I didn't even REMEMBER being in that game and 2) I replaced out of that game SIX FUCKING DAYS before you got lynched?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #940 (isolation #57) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:55 pm

In post 938, Sixty wrote:
In post 935, xRECKONERx wrote:WHO THE FUCK IS POSTING THIS

and HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHO IT IS
By reading, genius.

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xRECKONERx · Post Post #942 (isolation #58) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:57 pm

like HOLY FUCKING SHIT

"You know that game you replaced out of D1? Well I got lynched Day 6 and flipped scum and you should be focusing very hard on that flip even though you've already said, in an unrelated discussion, you have no recollection of being in that game."
- Tierce

xRECKONERx · Post Post #944 (isolation #59) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:59 pm

In post 941, Shadoweh wrote:How can you not tell which one of them is posting? Tierce is talking about the talkss she had with you. You are both being incredibly silly.

because Vi recently alt-slipped, like an hour ago, while posting under Sixty?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #947 (isolation #60) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:00 pm

In post 937, Sixty wrote:
In post 931, xRECKONERx wrote:My default assumption is that it's town because it's more likely that it's town due to numbers and it's more fun to rage and bitch about how bad someone is than try and discern if they're stupid town or scum.
I can't adequately express how much of this is bullshit given that he's STILL voting us.

you're goddamn right I'm still fucking voting you and I'm probably not going to stop! You're either scum pushing me or you're shitty fucking stupid liability town who I wouldn't miss anyway!

xRECKONERx · Post Post #949 (isolation #61) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:05 pm

In post 945, Sixty wrote:When you started trying to push us here (with, again, inaccurate data that you pulled out of nowhere) you had already been reminded about Fall of Gondolin.

Tierce being lynched Day Six is irrelevant, there's this thing called "checking the game someone is using meta on you about" (Shadoweh). Or are you saying you didn't check the accuracy of what she said, after showing a superficial interest on what FoG was?

...what the hell are you talking about?

Here's the ACTUAL TIMELINE OF EVENTS from this game, with references, since apparently you're an idiot.
- I vote you because chamber did and also because I vaguely remembered being unsatisfied with an answer you gave earlier.
- In the VERY NEXT POST, I ask what FoG was, because upon ISOing myself, I realize I never got an answer when I asked what FoG was almost a week ago.
- Shadoweh links me to FoG, and I go, "Oooooh!" and skim some of my D1 posts. I actually read your engagement with me and thought "what a moron" and didn't even check to see what anyone flipped, because

I don't fucking care

about games I replace out of (or am not in at all).

It's also worth nothing FoG was brought up as

meta on me

, which is why I curious what it was and why Shadoweh was comparing the two games.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #951 (isolation #62) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:08 pm

"When you started trying to push us here (with, again, inaccurate data that you pulled out of nowhere) you had already been reminded about Fall of Gondolin."
-

False

. I had been told by Shadoweh that she had meta on me from, "FoG", and I asked her what that was.

"Tierce being lynched Day Six is irrelevant, there's this thing called "checking the game someone is using meta on you about" (Shadoweh)."
-

False

. The entirety of the post made insinuating I was bullshitting my meta was BECAUSE Tierce said I should've made the leap from, "Tierce pushed me and was scum in FoG. Tierce is pushing me here so I should vote her." which implies I've connected the dots between the bit of FoG I actually played and Tierce's flip months later.

"Or are you saying you didn't check the accuracy of what she said, after showing a superficial interest on what FoG was?"
- No, I'm saying I didn't go and comb the playerlist to see who was dead and who was alive when I literally just ISO'd myself and skimmed some of my posts.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #956 (isolation #63) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:31 pm

In post 952, Sixty wrote:Okay, Reck. Step back. You may well be right about Fall of Gondolin's reference timing because I didn't bother to go check that and tabbing through several pages is :effort:.

Fact one. You sheeped chamber's vote on us. You say you respect chamber, but evidence in this very game shows the contrary.
Fact two: You then tried to justify this vote by saying we had not addressed your response to us. Evidence in this game says the contrary. It's either that, or you were just being a jerk to Shadoweh and not actually scumhunting, which is weird when you're supposedly firing from the hip and trying to figure things out with as little nonsense as possible.
Fact three: you reacted to the votes on you by addressing us as if we are this absolutely shitty Town... while voting us... while saying you assume wagons are Town-driven "because numbers". This was before you reverted to sheer AtE, so using the latest excuse that we are incompetent doesn't fly.

So what gives? Because if your game is going to consist entirely of insulting us, you should know by now that that doesn't work with either of us and does not endear us to your cause. Either help us understand how any of the above make sense from a Town perspective or... I don't know. I can match you word for word on sailorspeak, but I don't think that's going to make the environment in this game any healthier.

Fact one: chamber quoted a post from Fall of Gondolin as evidence I don't respect him, and I explained why that is a misinterpretation of the post.
Fact two: A large part of your post on me was about how I was pushing Shadoweh as scum. My post was to explain I didn't think she was scum, but that she was just being a cunt. You never responded.
Fact three: I also reacted to Nuwen in Fate's most recent mini theme the

exact

same way I reacted to Tierce's push on me in ScumInv and here, and actually spent most of the game agonizing between absolutely shitty Town and her just being scum. She wound up being scum. Tierce wound up being town in Scummies Invitational. The only thing I've learned is that pushing on me for bad reasons when I'm town seems to be regardless of alignment.

What "gives" is that Tierce has a hateboner for me that seemingly pops up in every game we play together and leads to her attacking me for shitty reasons and being sarcastic and cunty towards me. What "gives" is that I don't give a shit if it endears me to you or anyone else. What "gives" is that if someone is going to attack me for bad reasoning in-game and hand-wave it away when they're wrong, I'm not going to let that go.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #957 (isolation #64) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:33 pm

In post 952, Sixty wrote:You may well be right about Fall of Gondolin's reference timing because I didn't bother to go check that and tabbing through several pages is :effort:.

Oh, so you attacked me blindly without actually checking in an attempt to get me lynched and blatantly lied in order to further your goal?

Hmmm.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #961 (isolation #65) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:41 pm

Hi, Vi, you're ignoring the rest of my post.

I didn't ignore the rest of yours. I just wasn't going to repeat myself about UT again, and I wasn't going to get into a semantics debate about the word "compromise". That left me one thing to respond to along the lines of your "case" against me.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #964 (isolation #66) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 1:50 pm

Me: "Tierce dislikes me and acts bitchy towards me at every chance."
Tierce: "NO U"

Yeah, I'm done here, too. Enjoy trying to get me lynched!

xRECKONERx · Post Post #968 (isolation #67) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 2:01 pm

In post 965, Shadoweh wrote:VOTE: Reckoner

I'm assuming you, too, do not have a reason for voting me!

xRECKONERx · Post Post #992 (isolation #68) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:18 pm

I really don't like that quadz's opinion about the me vs Sixty thing seems to just boil down to, "That was interesting but here's why it's null."

I'd be

very

interested in hearing him expand on what he means by, "They both made some good points, they both made some bad ones." Which points, specifically, did you think were good or bad from either side?

Cerulean is my first bonafide town read this game, HOORAY!

Given my recent track record, that probably means they're scum!

xRECKONERx · Post Post #993 (isolation #69) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:23 pm

Also, legitimately, Sixty's argument with me was scummy. They pushed a

very

bad read on me (subjective), but then OBJECTIVELY LIED in order to try and paint me in a scummy light. When it was pointed out that they lied, they hand-waved it away and said, "oh you might be right, meh" and didn't think twice about it. Very reminiscent of exactly what Nuwen did in Fate's last mini theme. And they DO raise a good point: Tierce attacked me pretty early in Fall of Gondolin, because she was trying to poke the bear like she did when she was town in Scummies Invitational. Why isn't she doing the same thing here?

Something about F-16's recent post bothers me. I think it's the way he tries to recall my play from FoG like it was something that happened in the past, but directly quotes me from that game (implying he is reading it, like, right now).

xRECKONERx · Post Post #994 (isolation #70) » Tue Apr 22, 2014 6:23 pm

Also yeah, I would probably go for some hot Katsuki action. The only thing making me hesitant is Kats saying he wishes he could still read me, because I think Kats-scum would be more likely to buddy me and call me town and get in my blind spot.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1008 (isolation #71) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:29 am

In post 997, Tim Howard wrote:I could go back and re-read it and quote shit, but I'm really not that interested in going back and doing an in-depth re-read of a fairly unpleasant argument near the end of the game day which did not result in significant read changes. *shrug*

Okay, then I'll probably vote you?

I always find neutrality on two players arguing pretty scummy. I am giving you the opportunity to back up your words with actual content because there's always the off chance you believed what you said.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1010 (isolation #72) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:39 am

Shut up Katsuki, adults are talking.

xRECKONERx · Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:15 am

xRECKONERx · Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:15 am

Are you hoping to use non-game-related personal attacks to prove a point or something?

xRECKONERx · Wed Apr 23, 2014 10:58 am

xRECKONERx · Wed Apr 23, 2014 11:11 am

No I said I respect him and his ability.

If someone is more experienced than you at something, you should probably give their thoughts in that field more credence.

xRECKONERx · Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:55 pm

Because declaring something "town v town" is high up on my personal list of scumtells.

xRECKONERx · Wed Apr 23, 2014 12:56 pm

It's pretty silly to declare something like "they both had good and bad points" then refuse to spend 10 minutes skimming 2 pages of the thread to find those points.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1029 (isolation #79) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:47 pm

In post 1027, Tim Howard wrote:A) I didn't declare it town v town by any stretch of the imagination
B) I don't see why that would be a scumtell anyway

Also, it's not the time commitment. It's that I don't particularly want to read through you guys arguing about how you don't like each other again.

Huh, that's funny. Let's see here:

Posts where Sixty & I are arguing:
873, 888, 893, 894, 920, 925, 926, 931, 934, 935, 937, 938, 939, 942, 944, 945, 947, 949, 951, 952, 953, 957, 959, 961

Posts where Sixty & I are actually talking about how we don't like each other:
956, 963, 964, 970

TOTAL NUMBER OF POSTS THAT HAVE NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH PERSONAL ISSUES:

24.

TOTAL NUMBER OF POSTS THAT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH PERSONAL ISSUES:

4. And they all occurred at the VERY END of the debate.

Yeah, I'm

really

not buying that you just "didn't want to read through us arguing about not liking each other" because it's literally four fucking posts compared to the twenty-four posts where we actually have game-related debate.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1030 (isolation #80) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 1:48 pm

VOTE: Tim Howard

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1041 (isolation #81) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 2:17 pm

In post 1033, Untrod Tripod wrote:psst Reck do you think that quadz saying that is actually alignment indicative rather than just bullshit indicative?

bullshit =/= scum

yes

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1044 (isolation #82) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:18 pm

Nope.

I literally just caught Nuwen-scum doing the same hand-wavey bullshit where she'd make up false justifications for her bad reads/statements and never actually correct them. I'm not getting burned again.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1067 (isolation #83) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:31 am

LLD & Sixty are better lynches.

Still happy with my Tim Howard vote.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1070 (isolation #84) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 6:52 am

In post 1068, Nero Cain wrote:What's so townie about Venmar?

I don't see scum having a double vote?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1077 (isolation #85) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:05 am

I'm sorry, UT. My steely, cold-hearted conservative values have given way to a softer, bleeding-heart liberal sympathetic pathos.

p.edit: I refuse to vote Venmar, Venmar votes me... not sure I follow any of it.

p.p.edit: Or I just don't want to lynch someone I have zero read on and is a claimed doublevoter over people I have actual feelings about?

p.p.p.edit: Dear god, yes, exactly what UT just said.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1078 (isolation #86) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:06 am

WHAT YEAR IS IT

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1087 (isolation #87) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 7:50 am

SIXTY DO U THINK IM PRETTY? :3

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1102 (isolation #88) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:50 am

In post 1099, ChannelDelibird wrote:I'm not a fan of Reck being flat-out wrong on Tim calling him v Sixty "town v town" and I'm not convinced that it's an innocent mistake given that he initially seemed to take their post in the way that was intended. It's possible that it's just Reck losing track of something by nature of getting more invested into an argument and I got slight town vibes off some other of his posts in the last 10 pages so I'm going with a big fat fence-sit here - though that definitely puts him on a list of people for whom I would vote today.

To be fair, saying you're not interested in an argument between two people usually means that you're not interested

because

it's town on town (more often than not).

I fail to see how me being wrong about this makes me scummy, though. Sixty did something much more egregious in saying I had been told about Fall of Gondolin before I began attacking them (or whatever it was) when in fact I hadn't. Why is Sixty not on your list?

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1103 (isolation #89) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 9:50 am

In post 1100, Katsuki wrote:CDB FOR QUADZ BUDDY #1

are you so bad now that you think people who protect each other in thread are scum together

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1178 (isolation #90) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 5:40 pm

It actually made me really uncomfortable that sangres called me town because I don't feel I've been obvtown this game.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1191 (isolation #91) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 3:02 am

Why are you on venmar then

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1210 (isolation #92) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:06 am

In post 1206, sangres wrote:
In post 1178, xRECKONERx wrote:It actually made me really uncomfortable that sangres called me town because I don't feel I've been obvtown this game.
No one called you obvtown.
I find your scumgames are normally much more one-dimensional than your towngames, you've been playing like you're on whatever LLD is on, you're more likely town as a result.

Why haven't you been interacting with anything else that I've been posting?

Because I find your avatar and posts boring to look at.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1211 (isolation #93) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:07 am

In post 1207, Tim Howard wrote:
In post 1029, xRECKONERx wrote:
TOTAL NUMBER OF POSTS THAT HAVE NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH PERSONAL ISSUES:
24.

TOTAL NUMBER OF POSTS THAT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH PERSONAL ISSUES:
4. And they all occurred at the VERY END of the debate.

Yeah, I'm
really
not buying that you just "didn't want to read through us arguing about not liking each other" because it's literally four fucking posts compared to the twenty-four posts where we actually have game-related debate.
You're right, my disinclination to read that argument is clearly based in a rational / logical thought process rather than an emotional / irrational response, and thus your mathematical refutation of my argument is definitely going to change my mind.

lol

vote isn't moving

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1212 (isolation #94) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:07 am

I will literally sit on this Tim Howard wagon until there's a no lynch from no majority. I'm not moving my vote.

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1215 (isolation #95) » Fri Apr 25, 2014 6:14 am

kats should claim probably since scum are gonna show up and go OMG DEADLINE? and then lynch him

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1222 (isolation #96) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:22 am

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1224 (isolation #97) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:51 am

hmmmmmmmmmm

xRECKONERx · Sun Apr 27, 2014 12:25 pm

VOTE: Kanye

xRECKONERx · Post Post #1260 (isolation #99) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:01 am

I wish I had anything interesting to add but I don't.

I kinda jumped on the kanye train for reasons I don't want to make public.

xRECKONERx · Tue Apr 29, 2014 5:59 am

No I don't.

xRECKONERx · Thu May 01, 2014 4:11 am

VOTE: Untrod Tripod

xRECKONERx · Thu May 01, 2014 4:30 am

In post 1345, chamber wrote:How often do you read the thread reck?

I have an obsessive habit of clicking "Bookmarks" and then clicking on any threads with new posts in them. Usually it's just a force of habit and I click and read the last 3-4 posts then close the tab

xRECKONERx · Thu May 01, 2014 5:18 am

I mostly wanted to get a rise out of UT and to see how he reacted to me sheeping Tim Howard, who I was doing my damndest to lynch yesterday.

xRECKONERx · Thu May 01, 2014 5:41 am

In post 1353, Untrod Tripod wrote:that was supposed to be you sheeping Tim Howard?

Was it not?

xRECKONERx · Fri May 02, 2014 8:13 am

VOTE: Tim Howard

baaaaaaaaah

xRECKONERx · Sun May 04, 2014 7:59 am

In post 1408, Tim Howard wrote:Not impressed with UT's sheepy OMGUS vote on us and I approve of the additional votes on him!

quadz is Nexus even posting in your hydra anymore?

Also you know better than to use OMGUS as a scumtell so this is just gross.

xRECKONERx · Tue May 06, 2014 11:26 am

i dislike the ut votes

xRECKONERx · Tue May 06, 2014 5:55 pm

In post 1529, Untrod Tripod wrote:you say, while voting me

xRECKONERx · Wed May 07, 2014 9:12 am

I don't even know anymore.

xRECKONERx · Wed May 07, 2014 4:12 pm

VOTE: kanye

xRECKONERx · Thu May 08, 2014 3:35 am

Kanye who else should uI vote and why

xRECKONERx · Thu May 08, 2014 6:10 pm

Hmmm. Hasn't Nero been pushing me this game?

xRECKONERx · Thu May 08, 2014 6:51 pm

In post 1601, Nero Cain wrote:To an extent yes. You aren't in my main scumpile but you're in this group of nullish lurkers with plum and NS.

Ugggh if you had said yes then I would've not voted you

VOTE: nero

This still feels bad man

xRECKONERx · Sat May 10, 2014 10:36 am

xRECKONERx · Sat May 10, 2014 10:37 am

In post 1735, chamber wrote:
In post 1260, xRECKONERx wrote:I kinda jumped on the kanye train for reasons I don't want to make public.
I feel like it's time that I want to here this explicitly.

I thought I was picking up on a cop breadcrumb or softclaim w/ a guilty on kanye.

xRECKONERx · Sat May 10, 2014 1:43 pm

In post 1757, Nero Cain wrote:So when did you stop thinking this?

When his wagon didn't pick up momentum or died or w/e and no cop claim came out?

xRECKONERx · Sun May 11, 2014 7:38 am

30 minutes left.

Just hammer Nero.

xRECKONERx · Sun May 11, 2014 7:52 am

18 minutes.

CHAMBER WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING

I'm about to have to leave for a hair appointment can we PLEASE get a lynch idc at this point

xRECKONERx · Sun May 11, 2014 7:55 am

I don't even know why Nero's name is blue, I haven't been paying attention, but town color is red so that's enough for meeeeeeeee (not actually a serious reason but come on really just hammer someone)

xRECKONERx · Sun May 11, 2014 7:56 am

If we don't get a lynch because Tammy is sitting on her ass I will park my vote on her literally the rest of the game.

xRECKONERx · Sun May 11, 2014 7:57 am

ok I am leaving now

Tammy fucking do something

xRECKONERx · Tue May 13, 2014 8:57 am

hi

I apologize for being stubborn yesterday

I feel like this is The Reckoning 3 all over again

xRECKONERx · Tue May 13, 2014 9:26 am

vote LLD

xRECKONERx · Tue May 13, 2014 4:36 pm

In post 2005, Lost Butterfly wrote:
Venmar is a shallow heartbreaker. He will take 1 less vote than the majority to lynch today. This will be reflected in future VCs

ahahahahahahahahaha

xRECKONERx · Wed May 14, 2014 4:36 am

The thing there is that she says "focusing on UT and Reck

again

today", implying she tunneled on us yesterday, yet I don't recall that ever happening

xRECKONERx · Wed May 14, 2014 4:37 am

also i may be just hyped up on all the coffee at work but tom daley is hot as FUCK js

xRECKONERx · Wed May 14, 2014 4:37 am

also i may be just hyped up on all the coffee at work but tom daley is hot as FUCK js

xRECKONERx · Wed May 14, 2014 9:45 am

In post 2019, Venmar wrote:

YUMMY AS FUCK

xRECKONERx · Wed May 14, 2014 10:11 am

GAY VOODOO MAGIC

xRECKONERx · Wed May 14, 2014 11:28 am

venmar isn't even gay tho

xRECKONERx · Fri May 16, 2014 8:33 am

This game is dead as fuck. I posted 48 hours ago and there have been 17 posts made since then from 11 different users since then. (3-4 of which were just prod dodges or promises for content in the future).

xRECKONERx · Fri May 16, 2014 1:45 pm

In post 2050, Nobody Special wrote:I believe that Venmar is scummier than LLD.

Vote: Venmar

L-2.

why

xRECKONERx · Sat May 17, 2014 9:04 pm

how about "dont rely on meta for everything and just read him"?

xRECKONERx · Mon May 19, 2014 4:03 am

In post 2108, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:to swap from UT onto Kanye if they're indeed all 3 scum is ??? if Tim Howard is indeed scum.

uh no it's not?

xRECKONERx · Mon May 19, 2014 4:06 am

i don't even have words right now for that wallpost on UT

xRECKONERx · Mon May 19, 2014 4:07 am

oh except these:

VOTE: UT

xRECKONERx · Mon May 19, 2014 4:14 am

u manipulated me tho

xRECKONERx · Mon May 19, 2014 5:52 am

VOTE: LLD

Thinking on it now, it looks like a last ditch effort to save herself with EFFORTPOSTING and she actually kinda does the same thing she accuses UT of doing w/r/t me.

xRECKONERx · Wed May 28, 2014 6:11 am

idk what's goin on here guys

xRECKONERx · Thu May 29, 2014 11:47 am

hey you should all listen to my radio show tonight FREE FUCKIN ADVERTISING F YEAH

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xRECKONERx · Fri May 30, 2014 5:56 am

Please vote lld

xRECKONERx · Fri May 30, 2014 11:46 am

I still don't understand WHY Nero keeps yammering about wanting me lynched. Like, I don't actually remember him giving any reasons (if you have, please repeat them, it has been a long time).

xRECKONERx · Fri May 30, 2014 12:01 pm

That's not how this game works.

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:22 am

zzzz this game is boring

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 03, 2014 5:25 am

I remember actually thinking Venmar wasn't scum but IDR why

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 03, 2014 8:30 am

In post 2334, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2333, xRECKONERx wrote:I remember actually thinking Venmar wasn't scum but IDR why
he's on your scum team.

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:43 am

Wasn't plum on the table at some point

xRECKONERx · Thu Jun 05, 2014 6:46 am

Pretty interested in hearing why Venmar wanted to survive if he didn't use his ability.

xRECKONERx · Sun Jun 08, 2014 1:42 pm

In post 2384, Nero Cain wrote:lol @ Reck.

Still think the guy is scummy. Kinda worried about UT.

HMM

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:06 am

In post 2400, Flipping Awesome wrote:
xRECKx
:

In post 357, xRECKONERx wrote:VOTE: tim howard
In post 408, Untrod Tripod wrote:oy fuckin vey the last couple of pages
unvote vote Tim Howard
In post 409, xRECKONERx wrote:wait why

They just have a really big persecution complex but experience dictates that a persecution complex does not make someone mafia.
Why do you object to UT's vote on Tim Howard here when you were voting him too?

because my early votes on Tim Howard were for reasons that weren't "the last couple of pages" and I thought handwaving anything else Tim had done and joining the wagon with the Jewish grandmother shtick only commenting on TH's reaction to their wagon or w/e was pretty bad

their reaction to the wagon was actually lessening my scumread on them which is why I found it weird

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 09, 2014 6:21 pm

You called me scum so I wanted you lynched, it's ez

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:35 am

VOTE: Tim Howard

I actually don't remember why I

stopped

voting them?

Plum, I'm not sure you can just say, "BUT LOOK AT HIS PLAAAAAAAAY" and have that be a reason for me being scum. Why do you think my play is scummy?

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 10, 2014 5:09 am

In post 2408, Plum wrote:Reck is part PoE, part, well, has this guy actually done anything this game at all? At all? Besides, look at what wagons Reck was on. Pushing significantly for Nero over kanye as time ran down Day 2, major contributor to the LLD wagon going through Day 3 (after also almost entirely ignoring her all game), basically ignored Venmar the entire game even Day 4. His style of contribution also seems to me to be the sort intended to create more apathy. A lot of filler, really. Is the stated 'I thought I spotted a cop breadcrumb on Kanye Day 2 etc.' thing so weird to be coming from scum that this is all negligible? Hell no. I think a lot of this play is likely to be calculated scum machinations. The LLD stuff especially just reeks of saying whatever will keep things moving forward with the Mist (the bizarre switch to UT after LLD's case followed shortly by the switch back to LLD, just look at it, seriously, please).

Whew, I missed this.

I've been on shitty wagons and have fucked up big time but that's not actually a scum tell at all (for reference, see The Reckoning III, where I was WAY off on my reads).

I ignored Venmar for a very specific reason and tried to get momentum elsewhere because I was feeling guilty about something that I'll probably talk about at a later time.

Also if you think I'm calculated as scum, you clearly don't know my scum (or town) game play. I don't calculate anything. Ever. I'm pretty reactionary all the time.

Eh, I wouldn't blame people for wanting to lynch me though. Every day I've gotten more defeated about my play this game. It's something about Faraday games, man, I just lose my shit and go full idiot in them.

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:28 am

Well, alright then. That was a quick back and forth.

I guess you have your opinions and I have mine. Why do you think my reactions to LLD/UT were scum motivated, though?

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:06 am

oh hey UT's back guys!

Hey UT can you tell me how many times the "show me the case" tell has actually worked

because I fucking SPECIFICALLY remember you pulling this SAME FUCKING SHIT in Reckoning 3 and OH LOOK I WAS TOWN THERE TOO HURR DURR

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:07 am

In post 2399, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 2384, Nero Cain wrote:lol @ Reck.

Still think the guy is scummy
I'm not seeing Reck as scum. Elaborate.

In post 2401, Untrod Tripod wrote:I think it's pretty clear from that quote that he disagreed with my reasoning

In post 2421, Untrod Tripod wrote:yawn

dat show me the case tell

UT's last three posts, sequentially

"Reck isn't scum" then a passive defense of me then calling me out on a dumb scumtell that he knows is bullshit?

HMMMMMMMMMM

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:13 am

no you're not voting me, you're just taking potshots after an implausible switch in belief from "reck isnt scum" to "hey look recks scummy bc he committed a null tell"

The timing of it all, with Plum also pushing on me from outta the woodwork, is way too convenient. Which one of you is the scumfuck?

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 10, 2014 8:28 am

id prefer if you kept shitty terrible scumtells out of games and in mastin MD wallposts where they belong

xRECKONERx · Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:53 pm

THIS GAME IS SUPER ACTIVE

xRECKONERx · Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:17 am

So I got bored and reread Red Wedding. That was fun.

This game is very dead and I don't get it.

xRECKONERx · Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:22 am

Well, I did some reflection, and that whole game was really weird. I basically lurked the ENTIRE game, which I had never done before, then came up with a really creative fakeclaim to seal the victory.

Some people here have been using my RW meta as a reason to call me town and it seems bad. I don't know that it's purposefully wrong or ill informed.

xRECKONERx · Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:22 am

In post 2417, Tim Howard wrote:Need to talk to Nexus to respond to FA's questions. Will come back with a real post probably tonight.

Tim Howard's last post.

xRECKONERx · Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:25 am

In post 2440, Untrod Tripod wrote:are you saying "look at this lurking scum" or are you just pointing out that he didn't deliver the goods

I'm saying he didn't deliver.

xRECKONERx · Thu Jun 12, 2014 5:23 pm

this is pathetic

xRECKONERx · Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:51 am

This is a mostly shitty playerlist.

Plum I'm not scum, please stop.

xRECKONERx · Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:39 am

In post 2457, Cerulean wrote:
In post 2418, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 2408, Plum wrote:Reck is part PoE, part, well, has this guy actually done anything this game at all? At all? Besides, look at what wagons Reck was on. Pushing significantly for Nero over kanye as time ran down Day 2, major contributor to the LLD wagon going through Day 3 (after also almost entirely ignoring her all game), basically ignored Venmar the entire game even Day 4. His style of contribution also seems to me to be the sort intended to create more apathy. A lot of filler, really. Is the stated 'I thought I spotted a cop breadcrumb on Kanye Day 2 etc.' thing so weird to be coming from scum that this is all negligible? Hell no. I think a lot of this play is likely to be calculated scum machinations. The LLD stuff especially just reeks of saying whatever will keep things moving forward with the Mist (the bizarre switch to UT after LLD's case followed shortly by the switch back to LLD, just look at it, seriously, please).
Whew, I missed this.

I've been on shitty wagons and have fucked up big time but that's not actually a scum tell at all (for reference, see The Reckoning III, where I was WAY off on my reads).

I ignored Venmar for a very specific reason and tried to get momentum elsewhere because I was feeling guilty about something that I'll probably talk about at a later time.

Also if you think I'm calculated as scum, you clearly don't know my scum (or town) game play. I don't calculate anything. Ever. I'm pretty reactionary all the time.

Eh, I wouldn't blame people for wanting to lynch me though. Every day I've gotten more defeated about my play this game. It's something about Faraday games, man, I just lose my shit and go full idiot in them.
Which Faraday games? I thought you said earlier that you hadn't really played in Faraday games?

Though I *think* I know why he ignored Venmar and my kneejerk reaction is that it makes him town because I probably would have if I were Reck. Well, I would have probably whiteknighted the fuck out of him actually. Except once I did something in a game and when I was partnered with them later, gave them a special pass due to that previous game and people bought it.

But, I still think Reck is town, so it's a wash. Makes him human.

I played in the original fantasy camp (though I barely remember it) and I played in Metal Gear Solid (though I was replaced out for telling GreyICE to kill himself or something). That's still not a lot considering the fact that Faraday's run an ass tonne of games.

In post 2458, Cerulean wrote:Why didn't it bother you when Red Wedding was used as meta read for you in the Reckoning? You didn't sound like my partner from the Red Wedding in the Reckoning and you don't here either. You're saying I'm wrong to feel that way?

I mean you're not as obvtown as you were in say baltomeet or scummies invitational, but tonally you also don't sound like red wedding.

It didn't bother me because I hadn't reread RW. All I remembered was the ridiculous Robb Stark, Bodyguard Controller claim and my hammer post. I didn't remember the rest of the game. It just sort of bothers me, now, that RW has been used to explain

why

I'm town and in reality it's shitty reasoning because my play in RW, Reck3, and this game is all very different.

xRECKONERx · Sat Jun 14, 2014 8:34 am

How is giving out a one-shot ninja a town thing

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:40 am

VOTE: Nobody Special

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 16, 2014 5:40 am

my case

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:54 am

didnt u like my case tho?

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:04 am

It's ok because we have

48 FUCKING HOURS TO DEADLINE

and people have prod dodged for the past week so fuck it, idc anymore

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:13 am

In post 1949, Nobody Special wrote:I'd really prefer kanye.

Vote: kanye

Granted, there are eleven pages I haven't read.

fuck it's not actually NS

moving back now

VOTE: TH

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:23 am

In post 2496, Flipping Awesome wrote:As far as xReckx himself, this is the first game I'm playing with him barring a pretty old game where he replaced in as scum just as I got lynched and we never interacted. Reading through his games as an observer didn't give me any sort of handle on his meta so I'm mostly factoring in your read there. How likely do you think that he would change up his meta in a game where a lot of people are aware of it? If he played the apathetic townie shtick, it wouldn't work when a lot of players know about it so he would have to change it up.

Can you please point out the "lots of people" that are aware of my meta in this game?

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:26 am

Also, what game did I replace in as scum, FA?

xRECKONERx · Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:41 am

xRECKONERx · Fri Jun 20, 2014 11:16 am

It's not NS IMO based on his actions around the kanye wagon.

I'm not sure I agree on either of FA's two town "clears"... they're easily faked.

I would probably be fine lynching Plum or UT, regardless.

xRECKONERx · Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:42 pm

In post 2561, Cerulean wrote:reck - In the Red Wedding, I got the impression that the reason why you got away with troll hammering was because it was something you did as town too. Did I get that wrong?

(empire and I are having a little debate. apparently I can occasionally draw him into the game, as long as it's about meta!)

Yeah, you did. I mean I've quickhammered as town before, I think, but it's not like my meta

xRECKONERx · Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:33 am

In post 2564, Plum wrote:Cases are scummy.

xRECKONERx · Sun Jun 22, 2014 7:56 pm

NS you'd be better off literally just posting "prod dodge".

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:41 am

In post 2575, Nero Cain wrote:Reck, tell me why I shouldn't be voting you.

Because my role PM is town and also I'm wondering why we're not just mass claiming at this point?

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:29 am

In post 2581, Nero Cain wrote:Who is scum and why Reck?

At this point, I honestly have no idea.

I know I'm not scum.

I don't

think

Nobody Special is scum because of the post I quoted earlier w/r/t the kanye wagon.

Other than that, it's a crap shoot. I want a mass claim to try and sort some stuff out.

xRECKONERx · Mon Jun 23, 2014 9:07 am

So what should I be missing about your apparent obvious towniness?

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:25 am

Wheeee, a bunch of potential scums cross-clearing each other in LYLO!

I'm claiming.

I'm an

ActionDan fanboy

, and a friend of mith. Flavor talks about playing chess, going to Princeton, playing mafia with my mother, and using my cell phone to meet dudes on Grindr.

I have two abilities:

Stargazing

: Each night, before the first 24 hours are over, I can send a message to the mods and they'll post it in the thread and reveal that I was the author. I haven't used this yet.

Grindr!

: I can pick a player and send them a pic of someone. They have to choose "hot" or "not". If they say "hot" then they won't be able to vote for me the next day. If they say "not" then they will be called a shallow heartbreaker in thread and take one less to lynch.

N1: "Hot or Not" @ Tierce/Vi hydra
N2: "Hot or Not" @ Venmar
N3: I forgot to action
N4: "Hot or Not" @ Nero Cain
N5: I tried to do Nero Cain again and was informed that I can only use that ability when there are more than 9 players alive, and by the time I submitted it was too late to use a message

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:26 am

In post 2004, Venmar wrote:
Not

In post 2005, Lost Butterfly wrote:
Venmar is a shallow heartbreaker. He will take 1 less vote than the majority to lynch today. This will be reflected in future VCs

In post 2006, Venmar wrote:>.>

<.<

Okay then

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 4:33 am

In post 151, xRECKONERx wrote:yeah im not reading the SIX PAGES you guys have put up since game start, way too busy

but who wants to see a picture of my dick?

^ first post breadcrumb

In post 1087, xRECKONERx wrote:SIXTY DO U THINK IM PRETTY? :3

^ breadcrumbing "hot or not" @ Sixty

In post 2017, xRECKONERx wrote:also i may be just hyped up on all the coffee at work but tom daley is hot as FUCK js

In post 2019, Venmar wrote:

^ breadcrumbing @ Venmar (I sent him that pic of Tom Daley)

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:53 pm

In post 2609, Flipping Awesome wrote:
In post 2603, xRECKONERx wrote:N4: "Hot or Not" @ Nero Cain
Using it on Nero Cain N4 after Venmar was lynched on D4 and flipped scum is just WTF.

#1 haven't read much and skimmed a lot (I still don't see why Nero is town but ok?)
#2 my philosophy both nights was to target the person who was most vocal about wanting me lynched or who I at least remembered expressing interest in lynching me the previous day, I think. I definitely know I did that with Sixty & Nero, and I'm assuming Venmar too if it followed the same train of thought

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:54 pm

Still though, the idea that in ANY alternate universe I would be scum would Venmar and then:

A) Use the ability on my buddy
and
B) Have my buddy choose the option that makes him take one less to lynch INSTEAD of the option that gives him a free pass for not voting me the entire day

is just fucking mooooooooonbeams

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:55 pm

*be scum with Venmar

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:31 pm

bc why would i

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:33 pm

In post 2614, Flipping Awesome wrote:We're Shadoweh, and we have three abilities:

1) We can voyeur a player each night:
N1: We voyeured Chamber because he claimed self watcher and we wanted to see if we could collaborate watcher + voyeur results. But we ended up being neighborized by him. We got no result.
N2: We voyeured Cerulean and got no result.
N3: We voyeured Cerulean. No actions targeted Cerulean N3.
N4: We voyeured Shadoweh. We were told that no roles targeted Cerulean on N4 and that Shadoweh was targeted by a killing role N4 (I don't have a clue why we got results on Cerulean).
N5: We voyeured ourselves. We were told that no actions targeted us.

2) We can change the avatar of one player to anything we want as long as it contains pink. We did this on N3 (guess who!) but for whatever reason, it only worked D5 (instead of D4 so it got delayed by one day, I don't know why).

3) We randomly fall asleep each day meaning Lost Butterfly posts that we have fallen asleep once a day. It doesn't affect the game.

Obviously, something with the timeline is screwed up. I don't get why we got no results on Cerulean N2 but got results on them N4 without targeting them. I also don't know why their avatar was supposed to change D5 when we targeted them N3.

this whole post REEKS of the exact thing I've done as scum before

MY ABILITY IS SO CRAZY/UNIQUE AND WOW LOOK AT HOW I CAN'T EXPLAIN THE DISCREPENCIES I MUST BE TOWN THO

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:33 pm

ugh. maybe that's just projection

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:42 pm

tbf that layout of events is something i could see myself doing? so like maybe FA is town

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:43 pm

Cerulean [Empire/Tammy]
Plum
Untrod Tripod
Nero Cain

Here's my 50/50 lynch pool. TBQH I'm not buying the whole Nero Cain thing which seems to boil down to, "There's no WAY scum would bus that hard!!?!?!?"

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:45 pm

UT makes sense as scum but I don't want to believe it.

Alsdo Cerulean being scum would make actual sense this game because I felt weird about their Red Wedding talk the whole game.

Although I'm not sure FA's "we can make someone turn their avatar pink" claim makes sense since I don't actually think there's a way to enforce that?

xRECKONERx · Tue Jun 24, 2014 9:46 pm

fuck i hate the fuck out of this game

xRECKONERx · Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:21 am

1. I asked about that as well and was told that if they pick "Hot", it isn't public... whereas if it's "Not", it is. That part wasn't in my role PM so I'm guessing Nero chose "Hot" and couldn't vote me?

2. I cannot use both on the same night, no. And probably something like, "Hey guys, I'm town as fuck. - Reck"

xRECKONERx · Wed Jun 25, 2014 6:25 am

In post 2623, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 2603, xRECKONERx wrote:
dat roleclaim

In post 2606, Nobody Special wrote:That is perhaps the most bizarre role I think I've ever seen.

In post 2617, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 2614, Flipping Awesome wrote:
dat other roleclaim
this whole post REEKS of the exact thing I've done as scum before

MY ABILITY IS SO CRAZY/UNIQUE AND WOW LOOK AT HOW I CAN'T EXPLAIN THE DISCREPENCIES I MUST BE TOWN THO

In post 2618, xRECKONERx wrote:ugh. maybe that's just projection
Yep.

unvote

Vote: Reck

Hey NS, please fuck off. Seriously. Fuck. Off.

You're the most useless piece of fucking scumshit I've ever seen play this game. Why the fuck do you even bother signing up for games? Seriously, what's the fucking point? A fucking retarded fully lobotomized jackrabbit would be of more use playing this fucking game than you would.

This isn't a case. This isn't a reason. This is lazy, purposefully obtuse and awful horse shit. So, again, I kindly invite you to

FUCK OFF

and either start giving a shit and putting in some effort or replace out and never come back, thanks.

xRECKONERx · Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:13 am

NS is town though so no pls

xRECKONERx · Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:50 am

In post 2629, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 2620, xRECKONERx wrote:TBQH I'm not buying the whole Nero Cain thing which seems to boil down to, "There's no WAY scum would bus that hard!!?!?!?"
TBQH, that's not all of it.

That's all I've heard. Please, enlighten me.

In post 2616, xRECKONERx wrote:bc why would i
*shrugz* I don't really see a reason for town to not use an ability.

What? I could only use one or the other, I can't use both. I chose to use the Grindr ability because it was more interesting. I don't really see a reason for a person of any alignment to say, "Hmm, I have a cool ability, or a lame one that just lets me post a message in the thread... I'll post a message!"

I also think Reck's use of his power has been really anti-town.

My use of my power was the following:

- Troll Sixty because they were being obnoxious towards me. I sent them Chris Evans. They died so I'm assuming they didn't get to respond to the question.
- Troll Venmar because he suspected me. I sent him Tom Daley. He responded "NOT" publicly in the thread and took one less to lynch.
- Troll Nero Cain because he spent literally the whole day saying how scummy I was. I sent him Alexander Skaarsgard. I'm assuming he chose "hot" meaning he couldn't vote me.

While the trolling was certainly part of it, I also thought of the role as serving the same function as a fruit vendor. If someone knows I targeted them and sent them a picture on that night, then they'd know I couldn't have killed (as I'm assuming scum cannot double action since I cannot double action).