MS Fantasy Camp 2: Reaper's Tale! (Finished!)

Zdenek · Post Post #48 (isolation #0) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:29 am

I know that scum don't have a framer because I'm a framer.

Thought you all should know too.

Zdenek · Post Post #52 (isolation #1) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:32 am

In post 21, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Interesting ability I should claim: If the day ends in a no lynch (whether from running out of time, or by a majority vote on the "No Lynch" wagon). I enter 2 people into a duel, and they get to plead their case, and I unilaterally choose to lynch one!

Granted, the cases they plead are anonymous, and I don't choose a name, but rather whichever post I liked better, but that's beyond the point~.

Also,
Vote: Sixty
because KITTIES ARE BETTER WHERE IS MY MAFIA WITH THE PUPPIES 2 I WANT HOPE BACK.

Vote: LLD

For a change of pace, I'm going to irrationally defend Tierce (Sixty) for a bit.

Zdenek · Post Post #54 (isolation #2) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:33 am

Not compulsive.

Zdenek · Post Post #57 (isolation #3) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:39 am

In post 55, Sixty wrote:
In post 52, Zdenek wrote:
Vote: LLD
Why?

Keep reading?

Zdenek · Post Post #62 (isolation #4) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:45 am

oh most definitely.

Zdenek · Post Post #83 (isolation #5) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:25 am

It's funny just how hurt Sangres is.

Zdenek · Post Post #87 (isolation #6) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:30 am

In post 21, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Interesting ability I should claim: If the day ends in a no lynch (whether from running out of time, or by a majority vote on the "No Lynch" wagon). I enter 2 people into a duel, and they get to plead their case, and I unilaterally choose to lynch one!

Granted, the cases they plead are anonymous, and I don't choose a name, but rather whichever post I liked better, but that's beyond the point~.

What stops the players from putting their names in their pleas?
How many times does this happen?

Zdenek · Post Post #89 (isolation #7) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:36 am

Unvote

Vote: Katsuki

Zdenek · Post Post #90 (isolation #8) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:37 am

I'll be worth remembering that there's no "No Lynching" in MYLO if LLD is alive.

Zdenek · Post Post #94 (isolation #9) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 6:43 am

In post 91, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Well it's an active ability. I don't HAVE to do it.

Oh, well I thought it was just automatic.

Zdenek · Post Post #98 (isolation #10) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 7:17 am

In post 95, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 90, Zdenek wrote:I'll be worth remembering that there's no "No Lynching" in MYLO if LLD is alive.
We should just use in long before then but I don't think today is a good day which is why Ferycho's "no lynch" vote is kinda head desk. And then Nacho claims its reaction...

It doesn't look like it's one shot.

Zdenek · Post Post #123 (isolation #11) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:47 am

In post 102, Sixty wrote:
In post 100, Untrod Tripod wrote:holy fuckin jesus is sangres always this much of a tryhard?
Not likely.

While 99 is a post to put in their signature for Nexus, the wall gets worse as it goes down. This isn't the puppyhalf with Tammy meta, but those Cerulean posts were starting to stretch belief for me. In addition, somehow Nacho went from "I have no read on F-16" to "I have a Town read on F-16 but not enough of one to actually come forward and say it's a Town read". The Tim Howard read is indeed trying hard, as is the throwout on you (UT) - I don't mind your Cerulean vote but that's probably not significant in the long run.

What would be super-interesting would be sangres moving their vote. Anything is better than No Lynch.

And to think, I wasn't even going to read it.

Zdenek · Post Post #125 (isolation #12) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:50 am

Nacho, is your Vi read serious?

Zdenek · Post Post #134 (isolation #13) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:58 am

This is going to be stressful.

Zdenek · Post Post #138 (isolation #14) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:01 am

Nacho, why does your read on Vi have anything to do with you trusting Tierce or Tammy which is information that Vi probably doesn't have available to her?

Zdenek · Post Post #144 (isolation #15) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:04 am

In post 140, sangres wrote:
In post 138, Zdenek wrote:Nacho, why does your read on Vi have anything to do with you trusting Tierce or Tammy which is information that Vi probably doesn't have available to her?
Tierce is easier to read than Vi.
I trust Tammy to read Tierce.

?

That hyphen of yours sure was pregnant with meaning.

Zdenek · Post Post #150 (isolation #16) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:08 am

In post 145, sangres wrote:
In post 144, Zdenek wrote:
In post 140, sangres wrote:
In post 138, Zdenek wrote:Nacho, why does your read on Vi have anything to do with you trusting Tierce or Tammy which is information that Vi probably doesn't have available to her?
Tierce is easier to read than Vi.
I trust Tammy to read Tierce.

?
That hyphen of yours sure was pregnant with meaning.
What on god's green earth are you talking about?

In post 99, sangres wrote:Tierce-Tammy

Zdenek · Post Post #154 (isolation #17) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:11 am

Nacho, that would make more sense.

Zdenek · Post Post #155 (isolation #18) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:12 am

In post 148, kanyeknowsbest wrote:hello all, would anyone like to lynch 60 w. me

Unvote
Vote: kkb

OFF LIMITS!

Zdenek · Post Post #158 (isolation #19) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:16 am

Okidoki
You?

Zdenek · Post Post #159 (isolation #20) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:16 am

What's up with 60?

Zdenek · Post Post #167 (isolation #21) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:22 am

In post 160, kanyeknowsbest wrote:prtety good wanna explain 2 me why youre in love w. vi ?

Just looking for a change of pace in my in game interactions with Tierce, and curious to see what comes out of it.

Zdenek · Post Post #175 (isolation #22) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:35 am

In post 171, Sixty wrote:Zdenek, why are we Town?

Where did I say that I think you are town?
I didn't by the way.
I said that I was going to defend you for a bit for a change of pace.
If Tierce doesn't get that, I don't know what to say.

Zdenek · Post Post #176 (isolation #23) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:36 am

In post 124, Tim Howard wrote:hey team

these 5 pages suck. Nexus and I are in agreement that we have no reads except "sangres is obnoxious."

IN KEEPING WITH THAT STATEMENT

VOTE: Sangres

-quadz

SCUM DETECTED

Vote: Tim Howard

Zdenek · Post Post #193 (isolation #24) » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:48 am

In post 180, Sixty wrote:Question the second: why did it take you so long to read Post 124?

I'd read it, I just had other concerns - Nacho's crazy wall and defending you.

In post 187, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 175, Zdenek wrote:
In post 171, Sixty wrote:Zdenek, why are we Town?
Where did I say that I think you are town?
I didn't by the way.
I said that I was going to defend you for a bit for a change of pace.
If Tierce doesn't get that, I don't know what to say.
i dont get it. can you explain why you would do that?

I have a record of scum reading and tunneling on Tierce. It annoys her. I decided to do something completely different.

Zdenek · Post Post #280 (isolation #25) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:31 am

In post 277, Tim Howard wrote:Pretend we have written a long post here professing my love for UT and all of his opinions.

VOTE: Cerulean

We agree with UT that cerulean has been scummy. Pre-emptive IDGAF about inevitable OMGUS accusations because fuck you don't be a dumbass.

In other news, it may just be because sangres hasn't posted as much, but they've fallen off the obnoxious-dar.

Also, apparently making another player feel like a bad person is super pro now, awesomely well done there, sixty.

Yeah that's about all we've got for now. GOALKEEPERS OUT.

I just love opening the thread and seeing the person I'm voting, fake scum hunting.

Zdenek · Post Post #281 (isolation #26) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:33 am

In post 198, Flipping Awesome wrote:By "opening" I was referring to my first series of posts, not just the first one. I don't expect to be townread because I called myself town. I expect to be townread because of my early interactions which I know I wouldn't be able to fake, not with that tone, and not the way I did it.

"The meta you know, is the meta you can subvert."
- a wiser man than me.

In post 204, Venmar wrote:Yeah, everything Sangres has been saying this game feels out of tune for his town meta and feels forced.

I take it that you think Nacho is a terrible mafia player?

In post 206, chamber wrote:
Vote sixty

WHY MUST YOU TEMPT ME!

nevermind, carry on, I'm done with that schtick, and commencing countdown to aggravating tunnelling. :p

Zdenek · Post Post #282 (isolation #27) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 5:36 am

Katsuki votes are okay with me.

I'm just going to ignore F-16 until he's posted a bunch and then sink him with his scummy, scummy words, which he'll inevitably write if he's scum.

In post 208, Shadoweh wrote:only scumread is a throwaway line about Howard being boring

I am definitely not voting him because he's boring.

In post 208, Shadoweh wrote:Wow, wallposting while not rambling is fucking hard, how do people even do this?

HI MASTIN!?

Zdenek · Post Post #286 (isolation #28) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:36 am

UT, should we lynch you or CBD next?

Zdenek · Post Post #288 (isolation #29) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 6:54 am

ERRRRRRR!

Correct answer: not me because I am town.

Zdenek · Post Post #306 (isolation #30) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:31 am

In post 296, Flipping Awesome wrote:It looks like Empire is probably the only one who will engage my wall

~ F-16

Write a few lines why someone is scum, and you'll have my full attention.

Zdenek · Post Post #307 (isolation #31) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 10:33 am

In post 294, Venmar wrote:I'm reading Howard as town.

I'm all ears.

Zdenek · Post Post #322 (isolation #32) » Sun Apr 13, 2014 7:17 pm

Scum Venmar might be telling us that Tim Howard is town.

Zdenek · Post Post #339 (isolation #33) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:15 am

In post 324, Flipping Awesome wrote:Zdenek, was your CDB mention a throwaway choice or a scum read? Because if anything I think his first post skewed town for him.

The comment was because he cross-voted with Tim Howard in RVS.

So, posting a vote with a youtube video is "skews town" now.

Lord, make me a vig!

Zdenek · Post Post #340 (isolation #34) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:24 am

Venmar, what do you think of Sixty?

Zdenek · Post Post #342 (isolation #35) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:29 am

Unvote
Vote: Untrod Tripod

Basically, he jumped to defend Tim Howard in posts 284, 285 by attacking Sixty and Cerulean and now he's jumped to attack Venmar who's attacking Cerulean and defending Tim Howard (among other things).

Zdenek · Post Post #343 (isolation #36) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:30 am

In post 341, Venmar wrote:no opinion

Weird

Zdenek · Post Post #344 (isolation #37) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:34 am

In post 330, Venmar wrote:- Katsuki is an iffy lynch because I think he's being either policy lynched for being annoying or for just being Katsuki? He's just all caps voting and Sangres, Nero, and LLD are very unconvincing in what look like derp votes. Katsuki is a bad lynch.
- Tim Howard looks town since his two most recent posts look legit. It might be because I like their vibe, though it's probably because they actually haven't done anything scummy? Call it gut.
- Curelean is probably the best vote of the three, but I don't want to exactly vote him because all that UT has provided us is "Cureleans first posts are scummy" and that's it. I also think Cureleans very first post where they say "Oh empire must approve everything" was probably meant to come across more of as a joke and un-serious anyways?

Actually, this is just nuts. I mean your evaluating three players here Katsuki, Tim and Cerulean to determine which of the three is the best vote: Katsuki a bad vote, Tim a town read and Cerulean scum. WTF kind of contest is this?

Zdenek · Post Post #347 (isolation #38) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:36 am

Oh, I just realized what UT meant by weather vane.

Silly Zd.

Unvote
Vote: Venamr

Zdenek · Post Post #363 (isolation #39) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:22 pm

In post 360, xRECKONERx wrote:mmmmm yes tell me more about why my laziness means I am scum

Poor Reck, caught for the wrong reasons.

Zdenek · Post Post #377 (isolation #40) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:22 pm

In post 375, Tim Howard wrote:Zdenek is trying to be all town-leadery, from my pov, and I don't think he has the skill to do it, so it strikes me as odd.

This just looks like you suspect me for not alignment related things at best and for scum-hunting at worst.

Zdenek · Post Post #379 (isolation #41) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:32 pm

CDB, what similarities are you seeing between Nexus' play in this game and in Red Wedding?

Zdenek · Post Post #383 (isolation #42) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:41 pm

Unvote
Vote: Tim Howard

Zdenek · Post Post #391 (isolation #43) » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:52 pm

In post 384, ChannelDelibird wrote:
In post 379, Zdenek wrote:CDB, what similarities are you seeing between Nexus' play in this game and in Red Wedding?
I'm not saying it's a specific link between this game and that, I'm saying that my response - I know him very well, I can read him very well, trust me when I tell you he's town and look elsewhere for the time being - is the same here as it was there.

He's pretty obviously scum at this point, so I'm afraid one game of you reading him correctly isn't going to convince me.

He went from Zdenek is trying to lead the town to Zdenek isn't scum hunting and is posting one liners in the space of 23 minutes.
Then he goes to insulting me - Zdenek #1 scum-hunter.
Which is dissonant with him thinking that I'm scum.
Then he acts as though all my votes were somehow serious as a means to insult my scum hunting, and several of my votes obviously were not serious.

Zdenek · Post Post #427 (isolation #44) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 6:40 am

In post 404, Tim Howard wrote:Zdenek - I didn't talk to Nexus about this read, but I think I can agree / explain better. Zdenek is trying too hard to be The Best Townie, and not succeeding at being townish. Feels scummy.

You think Nexus think that I am trying to be The Best Townie by posting one liners?
Because I think that's crazy.

In post 405, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 363, Zdenek wrote:
In post 360, xRECKONERx wrote:mmmmm yes tell me more about why my laziness means I am scum
Poor Reck, caught for the wrong reasons.
your a idiot

and you're scum.

In post 409, xRECKONERx wrote:They just have a really big persecution complex but experience dictates that a persecution complex does not make someone mafia.

What are thinking of?

In post 416, Untrod Tripod wrote:his votes have been well explained

Not really.

UT is still maybe scum, I mean that thing with Venmar still isn't great, but not as bad as I thought, and that defense of me is unbelievable.

On the other hand, I also think that a lot of players would be able to discern why I am voting people.

In post 423, xRECKONERx wrote:Jesus Christ yeah, I just saw where UT called Zdenek's votes "well explained". Are you even reading this game?

I feel slimy jumping off of the wagon because it feels very much like quadz could be scum and just happen to be right as well but I feel slimier being on this wagon with Nobody Special and Untrod "Talk Out Of My Ass" Tripod and Shadoweh.

VOTE: Zdenek

Wow, I was right about Reck. I mean he's voting me for things completely unrelated to me. Unless he thinks I'm scum for suggesting that he's scum caught for the wrong reasons, in which case, LOL at Reck.

In post 425, xRECKONERx wrote:
@ZDENEK:
Is your framer ability compulsive?

Nope.

Zdenek · Post Post #431 (isolation #45) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:00 am

In post 429, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 427, Zdenek wrote:Nope.
Okay, more comfortable with my vote on you, then.

Why would a
town framer
ever use his ability if it isn't compulsive? The only way a
town framer
works is if it's negative utility, and it's only negative utility if it's compulsive. Not believing the claim.

If you are town, you should probably go read the opening posts.

Zdenek · Post Post #432 (isolation #46) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:03 am

In post 430, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 427, Zdenek wrote:Wow, I was right about Reck. I mean he's voting me for things completely unrelated to me. Unless he thinks I'm scum for suggesting that he's scum caught for the wrong reasons, in which case, LOL at Reck.
"I was right about Reck" -- in response to my vote on you? So are you saying me voting you lends credence to your reasons for finding me scummy? What exactly were you "right" about... that I was scum caught for the wrong reasons? What "reasons"? Do you mean NS just saying I need to die with no actual reasons whatsoever? Because that's pretty contradictory. How was I "caught"? From the ONE (1) vote on me?

I am saying that I was right about you being scum caught for the wrong reasons.
It not you voting me that lends credence to me finding you scummy - it's that you voted me for reasons that either have nothing to do with me or nothing to do with my alignment.

Zdenek · Post Post #435 (isolation #47) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:51 am

In post 433, xRECKONERx wrote:They didn't go "Oh here's a framer" then go "WHOOPS THE FRAMER IS TOWN".

Indeed they did.

Zdenek · Post Post #436 (isolation #48) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:53 am

In post 434, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 432, Zdenek wrote:
In post 430, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 427, Zdenek wrote:Wow, I was right about Reck. I mean he's voting me for things completely unrelated to me. Unless he thinks I'm scum for suggesting that he's scum caught for the wrong reasons, in which case, LOL at Reck.
"I was right about Reck" -- in response to my vote on you? So are you saying me voting you lends credence to your reasons for finding me scummy? What exactly were you "right" about... that I was scum caught for the wrong reasons? What "reasons"? Do you mean NS just saying I need to die with no actual reasons whatsoever? Because that's pretty contradictory. How was I "caught"? From the ONE (1) vote on me?
I am saying that I was right about you being scum caught for the wrong reasons.
It not you voting me that lends credence to me finding you scummy - it's that you voted me for reasons that either have nothing to do with me or nothing to do with my alignment.
Again... I guess I'll repeat...

I was scum caught for the wrong reasons? What "reasons"? Do you mean NS just saying I need to die with no actual reasons whatsoever? Because that's pretty contradictory. How was I "caught"? From the ONE (1) vote on me?

No, your response is typical scum caught for the wrong reasons - you say laziness doesn't mean that I'm scum, as though there is something else that could.

Zdenek · Post Post #437 (isolation #49) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 7:54 am

In post 1, Lost Butterfly wrote:Roles were tentatively assigned out before alignments were randomised. Changes may have been made afterwards/

Reck just chose to ignore this.

Zdenek · Post Post #443 (isolation #50) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:46 am

I didn't think anyone would actually care all that much.

The pro-town reasoning is simple. It let's town know that scum doesn't framer it also let's them know that sort of role could have been in the game.

Zdenek · Post Post #445 (isolation #51) » Tue Apr 15, 2014 8:49 am

Zdenek · Post Post #485 (isolation #52) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 7:47 am

In post 446, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:he does die before lylo.

yes, at the hands of scum.

In post 446, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I have a lot of experience with milking early claims for all they're worth

Do you really think I'm milking it?

In post 450, Cerulean wrote:Zdenek is...no offense to him, but a bit out there as town and his reasoning that he'd want to inform the town that scum do not have a framer in #443 is something that fits within that Zdenek-town framework (he did something similar in Marketplace Mafia 3, although that game was a bit different due to the mechanics).

And then you clowns lynched KingdomAces

In post 460, chamber wrote:Anyone with useless abilities should probably use them on me.

Sorry Chamber, you're not someone I want effectively investigation immune.

In post 480, chamber wrote::/ well that's unfortunate.

Vote Shadoweh

but I can follow this.

Zdenek · Post Post #488 (isolation #53) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 10:53 am

In post 486, chamber wrote:giving you free reign to do what you want with your power isn't happening

What thoughts lead you to say this?

Zdenek · Post Post #489 (isolation #54) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:01 am

I may as well claim some more stuff since I'm being asked so strongly to frame Chamber, the frame is one shot and once I've framed someone he shows up as guilty to investigations permanently.

Zdenek · Post Post #490 (isolation #55) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:03 am

I also have another ability, but I'm going to keep that one quiet for now.

Zdenek · Post Post #492 (isolation #56) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:16 am

So, why do you think that I should use it one anyone?

Zdenek · Post Post #493 (isolation #57) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:18 am

I mean maybe Chamber since he's asked me to, I guess, but that's really the only thing I can possibly see myself doing.

Zdenek · Post Post #495 (isolation #58) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:21 am

In post 494, Cerulean wrote:Because I was thinking it's the safest option.

Why is that safer than not using it?

Zdenek · Post Post #499 (isolation #59) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:27 am

In post 488, Zdenek wrote:
In post 486, chamber wrote:giving you free reign to do what you want with your power isn't happening
What thoughts lead you to say this?

nevermind

Zdenek · Post Post #500 (isolation #60) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:34 am

Chamber, it seems from my role pm that I can submit the frame anytime. Do you care if I do it today or do you want me to wait to do it tonight?

Zdenek · Post Post #503 (isolation #61) » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:59 am

Done. If you're a pgo, I'll hate you forever.

Zdenek · Post Post #575 (isolation #62) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 9:07 am

In post 513, Cerulean wrote:he started that whole thing up with zdenek about the framer yesterday and now I'm not so sure.

That does not make me feel good about him, but I'm biased.

In post 513, Cerulean wrote:Also did noone seriously but me have a problem with Kanye's first post?

People saying that they're not reading bits of the thread seems like pretty standard stuff to me.

Venmar's responses to suspicions are horrible.

Plum's vote on NS is pathetic - I mean there are actually scummy things she could be looking into.

In post 553, Plum wrote:I remember you, but I don't have a strong, clear, distinct memory of your baseline Mafia personality. Not playing with you and playing little Mafia for ~2 years contributes to that sort of thing. I have a vague, general feeling that some of what spurred my vote may be baseline/personality stuff, if you're asking. The issues thus far that the Town needs to deal with regarding you are also not, if the problems are generalized a bit, really truly unique to you. I decided to go for it anyway.

What are these problems you are trying to root out?

In post 554, Shadoweh wrote:D.O.N.T

??

Sixty look legit.

In post 571, Nobody Special wrote:
In post 564, Tim Howard wrote:Is this really a conducive conversation to be happening? Shadoweh, does Nero Cain strike you as scum right now?
This is the FIRST townish post from this slot. I feel better about letting it live another day now.

-Nobody Special

Doesn't it bother you that they completely ignored that blue is not really a reasonable color to guess for town prs, and that they took steps to shut down the conversation about that by asking Shadow about her read on Nero, which is basically irrelevant to that point? To me it just seems like their focus is off.

Zdenek · Post Post #632 (isolation #63) » Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:36 pm

In post 577, Venmar wrote:or you just dont understand how i play, or the meaning behind the shit i am saying

Well, maybe, could you let me in on it?

In post 595, Untrod Tripod wrote:Tierce knows how to play mafia. Vi knows how to play mafia. Why is it that their hydra can't? And is using some weird dog fursona.

^scum.

In post 615, Nobody Special wrote:I am unable to properly generate sufficient non-sequiturs to reply to this in the manner I would prefer. No, it doesn't bother me. Why should it?

I thought I'd conveyed that, so why don't you just tell me why you think it's townie.

Zdenek · Post Post #637 (isolation #64) » Fri Apr 18, 2014 6:36 am

In post 635, Venmar wrote:
In post 632, Zdenek wrote:
In post 577, Venmar wrote:or you just dont understand how i play, or the meaning behind the shit i am saying
Well, maybe, could you let me in on it?
read xenosaga, pukk up my wiki page from my signature and check out my latest town games. this is how i behave as town.

I don't care at all about you playing to what you think your town meta is.

I am interested in the meaning behind what you're saying and what you're trying to accomplish though.

Zdenek · Post Post #661 (isolation #65) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:40 am

In post 641, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 636, Venmar wrote: nero, this game is becoming a clockwork duplicate of the game you and i had long arguments and despite you using the most retarded reasoning that i proved, like in this game, i flipped town. you do this bullshit every game and each time you think you are godsent from heaven with the mandate of being able to read venmar. get over yourself.
If he was scum he wouldn't be trying to read you. :/ This is why it doesn't sound like you think he's scum. Was he scum in this game you're talking about?

<-Interested.

Zdenek · Post Post #671 (isolation #66) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 12:10 pm

Could a bunch of you all vote Tim Howard. I kind of want to be on a wagon now, and I want it to be on him.

Zdenek · Post Post #709 (isolation #67) » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:41 pm

If you want to think that Shadoweh is scum for making up the silly reason for thinking that Nero Cain seems townie for not trying to pretend to be an innocent child, that's okay with me, but I'm pretty sure this she might be scum for - forgetting that red is the town color because she thought that Nero Cain might have been able to claim to be an IC because his name is blue, after she commented that he's a Smurf - is preposterous.

Zdenek · Post Post #804 (isolation #68) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:00 pm

Where to?

Zdenek · Post Post #806 (isolation #69) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:32 pm

In post 221, Flipping Awesome wrote: [*] Nero's attempts to crumb his role felt natural and his wanting to give as many clues about it in Post 67 and Post 74 felt very genuine and at the very least definitely like he was crumbing a real role as opposed to a fake-claim. While it isn't impossible that it is his real role as scum, I figured scum would want to keep more options open for later on in the game and Nero Cain doesn't feel like a player who would want to aggressively crumb this early in the game.

What were you thinking here?

Zdenek · Post Post #808 (isolation #70) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:48 pm

[quote="In post 620, Flipping Awesome"]
She is still scumreading Katsuki but I really thought Katsuki understanding why I was scumreading him but wanting Penguin's reasons felt very town. /quote]
Why?

Zdenek · Post Post #809 (isolation #71) » Sun Apr 20, 2014 8:49 pm

ETFQT

In post 808, Zdenek wrote:
In post 620, Flipping Awesome wrote: She is still scumreading Katsuki but I really thought Katsuki understanding why I was scumreading him but wanting Penguin's reasons felt very town.
Why?

Zdenek · Post Post #846 (isolation #72) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:34 am

In post 834, chamber wrote:I don't like tim howard for scum at all. My only experience playing with nexus that I remember was when I hydra'd with him as an SK. He made one post that game because it was deadline and he knew I was afk. I made literally every other post, because he didn't want to as scum. I didn't see that reservation in him here.

How long ago was this?

Zdenek · Post Post #848 (isolation #73) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:50 am

So, you don't think that he'd have become more comfortable as scum in that time?

Zdenek · Post Post #850 (isolation #74) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:58 am

In post 738, kanyeknowsbest wrote:camn someone w. a town read on zedio tell me why hes town thank you

In post 744, kanyeknowsbest wrote:oh huh maybe zeds not scuim.

Chance you could give some words on this?

Zdenek · Post Post #851 (isolation #75) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 9:59 am

Something like what posts you read say? If you took sixty's advice that is.

Zdenek · Post Post #856 (isolation #76) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:14 am

In post 542, Plum wrote:his comment about the gamestate being weird and hard to read is true enough

Can you say what you were thinking here?

In post 725, Plum wrote:I think the placement of his votes is opportunistic - not in the traditional overblown "lol I can take advantage of it to drive a Shadoweh lynch here and now!" but come out of a desire to take advantage of certain things in the gamestate. I think that was possibly the case with his TH vote and more likely than that was the case for his Shadoweh vote.

What things in the game-state do you think that NS was taking advantage of when he voted Tim Howard?

Zdenek · Post Post #857 (isolation #77) » Mon Apr 21, 2014 10:16 am

In post 855, Flipping Awesome wrote:I felt Katsuki understanding why I scumread him was town because of how I think he expects me to sort him. I probably won't be elaborating on that point though.

I thought it had something to do with him wanting to know about PA's reasons for scum reading him.

Zdenek · Post Post #1002 (isolation #78) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:56 am

In post 861, kanyeknowsbest wrote:zedio my original scum read was based on his really odd play around my 60 vote and his declaration that he was going to be doing something different.

So you hadn't been reading up to that point?

In post 861, kanyeknowsbest wrote:he simply avoids me early since he knows it wont get him anywhere, which is pretty conflicting w. his move to jump hard on my 60 vote.

I don't really see how you can possibly think this. I mean, I pretty clearly stated what I was doing. I mean the fact that I jumped on your 60 vote had nothing to do with you or your vote.

Zdenek · Post Post #1003 (isolation #79) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 7:58 am

well aside from the fact that you made one, but the reasons were irrelevant.

Zdenek · Post Post #1004 (isolation #80) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 8:49 am

In post 876, Tim Howard wrote:I would like to strongly encourage more dudes to hop on this awesome plum wagon. Seriously. Read FA's points on why she is a good place to put your vote!

What about those things do you think makes Plum scum?

In post 920, xRECKONERx wrote:I can't wait for my inevitable push to L-1 where I'll claim and people will back down then you two will keep your heads planed so far up your own fucking assholes that you will continue to be wrong the rest of the game and nobody will bat an eye and I'll eventually get lynched then come in and be a fucking cunt to Tierce post-game.

This could be a slip that Reck knows 60 is town. It certainly conflicts with his vote on them.

In post 927, chamber wrote:
In post 922, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 899, chamber wrote:
In post 892, Vi wrote:
In post 891, Shadoweh wrote:insults don't really bother me as much as people being wrong.
Reck is doing both as evidenced above. You should be sufficiently bothered by this to vote him.
Whats bothering me is that he's sheeping me. I never got the impression that he had a very positive opinion of my ability.
I don't think I've ever given the impression of the opposite? You've been around awhile, I generally respect most people with a join date older than mine unless I have specific reasons not to

In post 123, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 119, chamber wrote:
In post 117, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 35, shos wrote:VOTE: xReckonerx

In post 51, shos wrote:Reck is obvtown what are you all doin?!?!

?????

VOTE: shos
Nice reading mate A+.

Unvote Vote Reck
this is also gross but also just chamber so idk

You're using a negative response to you voting him as your example of how he doesn't respect you enough to sheep you in a different situation.

Zdenek · Post Post #1006 (isolation #81) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:04 am

In post 952, Sixty wrote:but evidence in this very game shows the contrary.

What were you referring to here?

In post 971, Flipping Awesome wrote:
In post 884, sangres wrote:I can move our vote there. But, I'd much rather be on a wagon that you and F-16 both think are scum if I'm not going to stick with nacho's strongest scum read.
This feels odd coming from you considering we often butt heads in games or at least spend a very massive amount of time hashing out disagreements on reads.
~ F-16

I'd still like it if you would talk about Katsuki wanting to know about PA's read.

Zdenek · Post Post #1007 (isolation #82) » Wed Apr 23, 2014 9:06 am

In post 1005, chamber wrote:
In post 1004, Zdenek wrote:You're using a negative response to you voting him as your example of how he doesn't respect you enough to sheep you in a different situation.
No I'm not.

why don't you say what you're doing then?

Zdenek · Post Post #1088 (isolation #83) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:11 am

In post 1009, Katsuki wrote:He's obvious scum hedging on wagons.

YES YES YES

Zdenek · Post Post #1089 (isolation #84) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:16 am

In post 1024, Tim Howard wrote:
In post 1004, Zdenek wrote:
In post 876, Tim Howard wrote:I would like to strongly encourage more dudes to hop on this awesome plum wagon. Seriously. Read FA's points on why she is a good place to put your vote!
What about those things do you think makes Plum scum?
Are these quotes helpful? Because I read both of these things and agreed with them 100%. (As a note, my Plumscumread hasn't gone away.)
In post 778, Flipping Awesome wrote:
In post 675, Plum wrote:Do I need to do the scummy thing and MAKE A CASE on NS for things to happen, though?
I liked the aggression in this post but I felt your response in Post 725 was underwhelming. You say a lot of stuff that doesn't resonate, then unvote and vote Tim.

In post 779, Flipping Awesome wrote:
Plum
feels scummy. Her walls feel fluffy and not like she is trying to drive the game forward and I am coming around to Penguin's scumread on her.

Well, I was hoping for your reasoning rather than quotes from F-16.
What didn't resonate with you?
Do you think that fluff posting is scummy?
Do you think that not trying to drive the game forward is scummy?

Zdenek · Post Post #1091 (isolation #85) » Thu Apr 24, 2014 8:32 am

In post 1056, Flipping Awesome wrote:Also, check through my links on Plum's meta like you did on me during Wicked and tell me what you see.

I looked at On a Boat. Her play there was definitely different, but she also got lynched in that game, so she could be correcting for that.

Most people don't have aspects to their scum play that they can't/don't correct for. As of Wicked you happened to have one - as far as I could tell at least. Plum's been around for awhile, so I'm not so optimistic that she'll have one. If I happen to have time tonight, I might look at something else, but no promises.

Zdenek · Post Post #1223 (isolation #86) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 8:26 am

Vote: kanye

Zdenek · Post Post #1225 (isolation #87) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:16 am

hmmmmmmmm?

Are you scum with Kanye?

Zdenek · Post Post #1229 (isolation #88) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:22 am

In post 1226, Venmar wrote:Why is Kanye scum?

Don't ask questions.

Zdenek · Post Post #1232 (isolation #89) » Sun Apr 27, 2014 9:23 am

You could just read his ISO.

Zdenek · Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:16 am

Vote: Venmar

Zdenek · Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:17 am

I mean Kanye sidelining his vote at the deadline and vote sangres was one thing.
But calling reading the thread scummy is fake beyond belief.

Zdenek · Post Post #1282 (isolation #92) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:42 am

In post 1261, Cerulean wrote:
Vote: Plum

I was really hoping that you would say something about the scum-tell the Venmar is using.

Zdenek · Post Post #1294 (isolation #93) » Mon Apr 28, 2014 8:47 pm

Sixty was defending Venmar quite a lot. A scum team with him with would want them around, and a scum team without him would be helped by having them gone, so

Unvote

Zdenek · Post Post #1298 (isolation #94) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:19 am

The best reason to vote for Kanye is him sidelining his vote at the end of day.
I'm still pretty much down with that.
But these are early days.

Zdenek · Post Post #1300 (isolation #95) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:29 am

In post 1299, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 1298, Zdenek wrote:The best reason to vote for Kanye is him sidelining his vote at the end of day.
I'm still pretty much down with that.
But these are early days.
hows that make me scum?

I shouldn't need to explain this to you. The reasoning is really straight-forward.

Zdenek · Post Post #1303 (isolation #96) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:32 am

In post 1301, kanyeknowsbest wrote:did it make me scum in fire and ice? did it make me scum any other time ive ever done it as town? are these things you considered?

Hey Kanye, nothing in this game in 100%, so I don't care.

Zdenek · Post Post #1305 (isolation #97) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:34 am

In post 1302, kanyeknowsbest wrote:this also considering the fact that i was on a useless wagon before switching my vote to sangria?

That doesn't help.

Zdenek · Post Post #1306 (isolation #98) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:36 am

Why didn't you leave your vote on Tim Howard?

Zdenek · Post Post #1308 (isolation #99) » Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:40 am

When you moved your vote the TH wagon was nearly tied with the Katsuki wagon, so I have no idea why you think it was a useless wagon.

Zdenek · Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:41 am

In post 1307, kanyeknowsbest wrote:wheres yours? did you get over him?

I think you're worse than them.

Zdenek · Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:48 am

In post 1310, kanyeknowsbest wrote:no it wasnt?

What are you talking about?

In post 1140, Lost Butterfly wrote:
Day 1, VC 39
Tim Howard - (5):
Zdenek, Katsuki, Plum, kanyeknowsbest, xRECKONERx

Venmar - (3):

Nero Cain
, Untrod Tripod, chamber

xRECKONERx - (2):
Lady Lambdadelta, Sixty

Plum - (1):
Flipping Awesome

Katsuki - (5):
sangres, Shadoweh, Tim Howard, ChannelDelibird, Nobody Special

Not voting - (2):
Cerulean, Venmar

With
18
alive it takes
10
to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:
26th of April at 5pm
Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-04-26 12:00:00)
CDB is V/la
[/area]

In post 1149, Cerulean wrote:I'll be around til a few hours before deadline but not right on that hour. For now, my vote'll go here.

Vote: Plum

Nacho, did you get around to answering the question I asked you a while back about what you expected from Katsuki's reaction as town?

In post 1155, Venmar wrote:tim howard remains a strong town for me, therefore

vote katsuki

In post 1157, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
vote sangria

I think I got all of them.

Zdenek · Tue Apr 29, 2014 7:51 am

and when you learned that the deadline was close you didn't do anything to make a wagon on Sangres happen.

Zdenek · Wed Apr 30, 2014 7:26 am

In post 1320, Cerulean wrote:I honestly have no idea what he's talking about and would really like it if he'd explain (and specifically why he's using something that's allegedly mine when I don't think we've even played together since that one game from a couple of years ago now).

So you do or don't think that it's scummy? Now or ever? I don't see what the time frame has to do with the truth of his statement though.

Zdenek · Fri May 02, 2014 9:00 pm

Prod-dodge. Will look into things today.

Zdenek · Sat May 03, 2014 6:23 am

In post 1330, Untrod Tripod wrote:I don't really find that the rest of the paragraph invalidates the scumminess OOZING from that quote but we can agree to disagree I guess

You don't think that town overstate things sometimes or is there something else?

In post 1337, Tim Howard wrote:I don't think that scum-venmar would be able to fake the frustration he was demonstrating at that point. (I don't have any experience with it that I know of, just the impression I get from his play here.)

So you think that Venmar is a bad player, based on his play here, and that he couldn't fake it, based on his play here.

This seems like nonsense reasoning that's meant to sound good.

In post 1337, Tim Howard wrote:Plum's 1275 (case on UT) is solid. His response is non-useful in terms of reading him further. However, considering my townread on Venmar, the fact that UT keeps pushing him is really making me feel like he could be scum angling for a fairly easy mislynch.

So yesterday you were down with F-16's case on plum and today you are down with plum's case on UT? I'd really like to hear something from yoy about what you think about these things.

Zdenek · Sat May 03, 2014 6:27 am

I see kanye has successfully lurked his wagon away

Zdenek · Sat May 03, 2014 10:03 pm

In post 1395, Untrod Tripod wrote:I'd like to reiterate my previous question of why we aren't killing this ^?

Hi UT, I'd still like you to tell me about the scumminess oozing out of plum's post.

Zdenek · Sat May 03, 2014 10:06 pm

In post 1408, Tim Howard wrote:seemed to be from a townish mindset.

What aspect of it?

Zdenek · Sun May 04, 2014 10:22 am

UT, I was asking you about this one.

In post 1328, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1321, Plum wrote:I mentioned before that the rhetoric was deliberately overstated. I am a believer in actions eventually shaping thoughts and attitudes
say it til you believe it

wow

that's some next level shit, Plum

is the rest of the game still indulging the fantasy that this isn't in dire need of rope?

Zdenek · Sun May 04, 2014 10:48 pm

LLD might be scum for her interaction with sangres early in the game.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 6:12 am

Stop that.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 9:20 am

In post 1427, Zdenek wrote:UT, I was asking you about this one.

In post 1328, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1321, Plum wrote:I mentioned before that the rhetoric was deliberately overstated. I am a believer in actions eventually shaping thoughts and attitudes
say it til you believe it

wow

that's some next level shit, Plum

is the rest of the game still indulging the fantasy that this isn't in dire need of rope?

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 9:41 am

In post 1152, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
In post 1150, Shadoweh wrote:
In post 1118, Sixty wrote:I'm actually considering deliberately not pushing a lynch for the sake of getting a read on a certain smiling cat. I know who -I'd- pick in her position, but I'd rather see what she does.
*I think the game is going to stay awful like this until scumone flips. Or at least a mountain of Night actions. So for the time being I'm quite willing to check out of this. uo.ou
/)
|=|

@LLD: Are the submissions you have to judge made public?
I have a distinct memory of that happening in at least one game your ability is based on, so etc.
Benefits to No-Lynching:
- Better Read on LLD
- LLD prob-town so town-controlled death

Cons to No-Lynching
- 0% Wagons for later analysis
- NO CLAIMS IN A NO-FLIP GAME
- LLD has been posting like she's on LSD, checked out of the game, turning lynch into a hero vig shot

Can we PLEASE consolidate and lynch someone?

Woah woah woah.

She might be scum.

In post 1153, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Like legit, Shadoweh might be scum. That reads like she's genuinely scared of me choosing to kill her. And she's already said something to the effect that her ability is worthless so...

What about Shadoweh gave you this impression?

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 9:42 am

In post 1448, Untrod Tripod wrote:what exactly do you not get about that quote?

Do you think that town don't exaggerate or is it something else?
I've already asked this.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 9:46 am

In post 1154, Shadoweh wrote:I have one worthless ability, yes. Are you trying to justify choosing me before I flip Town already?
I've had no impression you were ever going to choose me. In fact you've stayed entirely out of discussions around my wagon of lulz.

This was Shadoweh's response to LLD's comments above. After that LLD lurked to a prod-dodge.
And at her next mention of Shadoweh was town reading here, I guess, at least we asking Shadoweh for help with realigning reads.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:05 am

In post 1454, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I didn't originally see that fear coming from Shadoweh!town.

What made you think "fear"?

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:08 am

In post 1457, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:@Zdenek: Her verbage, the way she phrased things, the certain specific references she made, the emphasis she put on certain things.

this tells me nothing.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:18 am

I'd love to hear from other people about what's above here.
I know that I would currently love to lynch LLD - the my posts aren't meant to convey what I am thinking garbage just makes me think scum-bullshit.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:24 am

Vote: LLD

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:26 am

In post 1462, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:But sure, please continue your trend of always reading me wrong~.

This attempt to discredit me is nonsense.

Our last game together was the Scummies Invitational, I was scum reading you and you were scum.

So laa dee daa die.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:32 am

In post 1465, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Mmmmmm and who won that game~.

In post 1466, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'd like to remind you only 1 person ever voted for me that game, and that was BBMolla on day 1.

So~.

All irrelevant to my read on you, so I have no idea why you are telling me about this.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:38 am

In post 1467, Plessiez wrote:
In post 1434, Zdenek wrote:LLD might be scum for her interaction with sangres early in the game.
Can you expand on this? (I've read ... about a third of day 1 now, I guess, and I don't remember any LLD/sangres interactions beyond LLD voting sangres at one point.)

In post 1461, Zdenek wrote:I know that I would currently love to lynch LLD
Have you given up on lynching Kanye then? Because that's looking like a better option to me at the moment.

Kanye might be scum, so no, but there's this LLD thing too, so I'm going to do that too.

The sangres business is that I don't really believe that LLD didn't know who's in the hydra.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:39 am

Of course it could be that she in fact didn't know, and to be honest I'm far more concerned about her take on Shadoweh and refusing to explain it.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:46 am

Her "rather than explain myself, I'm going to discredit the person questioning me" tack is also upsetting.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:48 am

I also think that this could have been distancing.

In post 769, kanyeknowsbest wrote:hey can i just give a general reminder 2 everyone who is reading lld as SOLFID FUcking town that lld is Absolutely Excellent @ Scum ty 4 keeping this in mind.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:49 am

In post 1472, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:yes, I faked not knowing Nacho was in a hydra so I could...... get what advantage exactly?

To provoke the - I bet scum talked about who is in what hydra - defense.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 10:56 am

I actually meant provoke it from someone else, but like I said, I don't care about that so much anymore.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 12:55 pm

In post 1481, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1480, Ner+Far wrote:ok, I'm satisfied about the mechanic though I still think Venmar's play is on the scummy side. Although I actually kinda agree with him about UT not voting him and that's strange.

I'd also be ok with a Reck lynch.

unvote

Why the Unvote?
What are your thoughts on Kanye, Tim and LLD?

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 2:22 pm

I did vote you, but I got distracted by Venmar.
Because I still think you are scum.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 2:25 pm

Let us not forget.

In post 1313, Zdenek wrote:
In post 1310, kanyeknowsbest wrote:no it wasnt?
What are you talking about?

In post 1140, Lost Butterfly wrote:
Day 1, VC 39
Tim Howard - (5):
Zdenek, Katsuki, Plum, kanyeknowsbest, xRECKONERx

Venmar - (3):

Nero Cain
, Untrod Tripod, chamber

xRECKONERx - (2):
Lady Lambdadelta, Sixty

Plum - (1):
Flipping Awesome

Katsuki - (5):
sangres, Shadoweh, Tim Howard, ChannelDelibird, Nobody Special

Not voting - (2):
Cerulean, Venmar

With
18
alive it takes
10
to lynch.
Deadline for Day 1:
26th of April at 5pm
Irish Time - countdown: (expired on 2014-04-26 12:00:00)
CDB is V/la
[/area]

In post 1149, Cerulean wrote:I'll be around til a few hours before deadline but not right on that hour. For now, my vote'll go here.

Vote: Plum

Nacho, did you get around to answering the question I asked you a while back about what you expected from Katsuki's reaction as town?

In post 1155, Venmar wrote:tim howard remains a strong town for me, therefore

vote katsuki

In post 1157, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
vote sangria
I think I got all of them.

In post 1315, Zdenek wrote:and when you learned that the deadline was close you didn't do anything to make a wagon on Sangres happen.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 2:35 pm

Your first sentence Kanye, why must you lie?
As for the second, I don't expect you to agree with me.

Zdenek · Mon May 05, 2014 2:36 pm

That was for 1489.

Zdenek · Tue May 06, 2014 7:32 am

Its on!

Vote: KKB{/b]

Zdenek · Tue May 06, 2014 7:33 am

Vote: KKB

!!!111!!11111!!!1!!!11!!

Zdenek · Tue May 06, 2014 8:16 am

In post 1502, Nero Cain wrote:nothing has really jumped out at me though Kayne suggesting a 5 man team in an 18 player game is
Maybe he's going for one of those fake derp tells. It also sounds like he's trying to chain lynch Venmar and I.

Sounds like you should be scum reading Kanye.

Have you even tried to read Tim? They're quite horrid.

Zdenek · Tue May 06, 2014 10:42 am

In post 1522, Nero Cain wrote:How do you feel about, LLD?

Not obvious?

Scum.

Zdenek · Wed May 07, 2014 9:44 am

Votes on Kanye, ya'll.

Zdenek · Wed May 07, 2014 10:28 am

Timmy, how did you choose your targets?

Zdenek · Thu May 08, 2014 9:35 am

In post 1592, kanyeknowsbest wrote:your vote is the only 1 thats been on me all game that im actually concerned or care abt

Zdenek · Thu May 08, 2014 8:10 pm

In post 1070, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1068, Nero Cain wrote:What's so townie about Venmar?
I don't see scum having a double vote?

^scum, yeah?

Zdenek · Thu May 08, 2014 8:11 pm

In post 1603, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1601, Nero Cain wrote:To an extent yes. You aren't in my main scumpile but you're in this group of nullish lurkers with plum and NS.
Ugggh if you had said yes then I would've not voted you

VOTE: nero

This still feels bad man

So, what is this "still" business?

Zdenek · Thu May 08, 2014 8:27 pm

Nero, "Maybe they are the scum on my wagon distancing themselves from my town flip." How does that work?

Zdenek · Fri May 09, 2014 11:02 am

Timmy, how did you choose your targets?

Zdenek · Fri May 09, 2014 11:06 am

In post 1641, Plum wrote:I'd lynch kanye over Nero at this point,

Good vote him.

It will be glorious.

Zdenek · Fri May 09, 2014 11:10 am

I really question Nero not and the voting ability and not knowing about the voting ability, but I also don't understand why people think he's scum, and his scum read on LLD is good, and we're going to need all the help we can get to lynch her tomorrow.

Zdenek · Fri May 09, 2014 11:11 am

The only reason that I see to scum read Nero is the "deep-hammer," which is okay, but still Kanye is worse, so let's do that.

Zdenek · Fri May 09, 2014 10:11 pm

Flipping awesome, why are you not voting?

Zdenek · Fri May 09, 2014 10:21 pm

What are you debating?

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 2:39 am

Why are you still ignoring Kanye?

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 2:43 am

That's not an acceptable answer.

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 2:46 am

Also, why did you vote Nero?

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 2:54 am

I did.
You're welcome to provide details though.

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 8:16 am

I will vote Venmar before Nero.

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 8:18 am

Kanye, lld and Tim are all better though.

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 8:26 am

Oh yes. Reck too

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 8:47 am

In post 1732, chamber wrote:Is anyone else entertaining Flipping scum?

It's possible. I don't really understand their shift on Plum.

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 8:51 am

and their town read on LLD is also confusing

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 9:00 am

In post 1740, Plessiez wrote:
In post 1727, Zdenek wrote:I will vote Venmar before Nero.
Does this mean that you've changed your mind about the post below?

In post 1294, Zdenek wrote:Sixty was defending Venmar quite a lot. A scum team with him with would want them around, and a scum team without him would be helped by having them gone, so

Unvote

I don't think that either of them are very likely to flip scum.

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 9:09 am

Actually, it's really strange that it took Nero so long to tell us his role pm doesn't mention the voting ability.

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 9:16 am

In post 797, Nero Cain wrote:I had her role - the no lynch thing in Nexus' WWE game so is she making the no lynch thing up? Its plausible that Minaday could deviate from the role so...idk.

What motivated this?

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 9:17 am

In post 1746, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1283, Nero Cain wrote:My list of abilities doesn't say anything about a double vote

In post 1626, Untrod Tripod wrote: no reference to the doublevote in your role at all?

In post 1627, Nero Cain wrote:nope

I stand corrected.

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 9:26 am

In post 1749, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 1747, Zdenek wrote:
In post 797, Nero Cain wrote:I had her role - the no lynch thing in Nexus' WWE game so is she making the no lynch thing up? Its plausible that Minaday could deviate from the role so...idk.
What motivated this?
I just had a similar role and felt the need to share but LLD is scum now so I mean...

I see.
Your role there was quite different.

Zdenek · Sat May 10, 2014 9:30 am

LLD chooses the lynch on her own.

There aren't votes after she uses her ability.

Zdenek · Sun May 11, 2014 1:04 am

In post 1765, Tim Howard wrote:ISO'd Nero Cain. I don't like lynching him, seems town. Commencing reading up on the last few pages I missed now!

Not surprised NC doesn't have a reference to the doublevote in his role; it's Venmar's role, not his. (not alignment relevant)

We chose our targets according to who we thought was town.

I can see who you wouldn't be scum reading Nero, but how do you get to town?

Why do you say that the triple vote is Venmar's role, not Nero's. Seems to me like it involves the two of them.

When in day one did you give CDB the card?

Zdenek · Sun May 11, 2014 1:22 am

In post 1809, Plessiez wrote:Can somebody (Zdenek or Plum) explain why they care about Nero once having had a role that's a bit (but not a lot) like the role LLD claimed? Why does it matter to this game? I don't understand.

Nero mentioned it, so I went to go look at it, and then noticed that the role there was quite different.

I guess that could be the reason why he's having such a hard time understanding LLD's role.

Zdenek · Sun May 11, 2014 1:50 am

Nero, I'd really like it if you explained how you think that Shadoweh is scum afraid of no lynching?

I'd also like you to explain why you thought (assuming that LLD's one-shot, since that is apparently what you still thought) that LLD was worried about using her ability today, and would prefer to use it later, if you also think that she'll just use it to kill you, seems like she could do that anytime.

Zdenek · Sun May 11, 2014 1:53 am

In post 1866, Plessiez wrote:
In post 1863, Zdenek wrote:I guess that could be the reason why he's having such a hard time understanding LLD's role.
You think Nero's fixated on "this claim is similar to a role I once had" and is confusing details of LLD's claimed role and his own past role as a result? Does that sound like the sort of thing Nero would do?

Well, I think that possible that is what Nero is doing and I have no idea if it is that the sort of thing to expect from Nero.

Zdenek · Sun May 11, 2014 2:02 am

Nero may have just moved into decent lynch territory with the cognitive dissonance between his scum read on LLD and his attack on Shadoweh for begin scum afraid of no lynching, and ignoring the question when it was asked of him.

Together with his failure to understand either his role or LLD's role, which might be too much to be just a mistake.

Zdenek · Sun May 11, 2014 2:04 am

In post 1860, kanyeknowsbest wrote:
In post 1859, Zdenek wrote:
In post 1765, Tim Howard wrote:ISO'd Nero Cain. I don't like lynching him, seems town. Commencing reading up on the last few pages I missed now!

Not surprised NC doesn't have a reference to the doublevote in his role; it's Venmar's role, not his. (not alignment relevant)

We chose our targets according to who we thought was town.
I can see who you wouldn't be scum reading Nero, but how do you get to town?

Why do you say that the triple vote is Venmar's role, not Nero's. Seems to me like it involves the two of them.

When in day one did you give CDB the card?
this is a beautiful post, just real nice distancing and setting up easy interactions here. you hit most of the right notes that say im not scum and im not talking to my scum buddies. B+

You're such scum.

Zdenek · Sun May 11, 2014 2:29 am

Notice how the second part of the post contradicts the first: "just real nice distancing and setting up easy interactions here" then "you hit most of the right notes that say im not scum and im not talking to my scum buddies." If he really believed that latter sentence, he wouldn't care about the post, and wouldn't have written the former sentence. He wrote it because he thinks that it sounds good. It's rhetorical garbage.

Zdenek · Sun May 11, 2014 6:41 am

No no UT, LLD is tomorrow's project.

Zdenek · Sun May 11, 2014 6:44 am

In post 1889, Cerulean wrote:
In post 1876, Flipping Awesome wrote:
In post 1862, kanyeknowsbest wrote:hey tammy if i get lynched im leaving it up 2 you to find out whos the scum that bailed the tim wagon after he claimed
This conviction feels odd.
I'm trying to decide what I think of this post. I partly realize what he's doing as he's referencing asoiaf. I was the only one who argued ooba's guilty on him was fake in that game and tried to stop his lynch. While he was getting lynched he told me I was the only one he trusted to set town on the right path the next day. But in the part you cut off he said don't fuck it up like asoiaf, but I died that night so I'm not sure what he means. I suppose he could be manipulating me off his wagon as that is why I had such a hard time in wizards. IDK

I wish you weren't fence-sitting here.

It should be easy for you to guess what that post makes me think.

Zdenek · Tue May 13, 2014 9:06 am

VOTE: LLD

Zdenek · Tue May 13, 2014 10:08 am

In post 1805, Plum wrote:something something paraphrase what UT said something something love the one you're with etc.

What was this supposed to mean?

Zdenek · Tue May 13, 2014 8:48 pm

In post 2011, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I'm gonna be focusing on UT and Reck again today.

Why have you dropped your suspicion of Tim Howard and Nero?

Zdenek · Tue May 13, 2014 8:50 pm

Also, LLD's, I'm "re-centering" myself on reads, while simultaneously saying that she's going focus on just two people today is somewhat dissonant.

Zdenek · Wed May 14, 2014 7:32 am

In post 2020, Venmar wrote:
In post 1241, Venmar wrote:i thought this succession of posts was scummy, since you ask the game who to sheep due to not wanting to read, and then barely a couple posts later you seem to apparently do some "reading" anyways?
Empire why didn't you pick up this scumtell on Kanye when I did? I mean, I got it from you and it turned out right..?

Quote where it came from please.

Zdenek · Thu May 15, 2014 3:52 am

You could just vote her.

Zdenek · Thu May 15, 2014 10:28 am

V/LA until Monday

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 1:35 am

Unvote

Back from V/LA. Want to read before there's a lynch. That should happen within 10 hours.

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 8:52 am

In post 2044, Plum wrote:Sorry for being a loser. Aaaanyway.

Did some quick ISO skimming just to look at what the newfangled people call trajectory re kanye. And some other people as needed. So VOTE: Venmar

yarrr

So, what is your take on Venmar and Kanye?

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 9:21 am

In post 2100, Tim Howard wrote:Yeah, this LLD feels like she's tryharding to avoid a lynch.

Because she made a case on UT"?

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 9:26 am

In post 2104, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:UT's constant changing of reads, especially when he backtracks on Sixty later.

Where is this?

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 9:35 am

In post 2114, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:assuming 2-3 scum left they're solidly in this group.

You think 2 is possible?
Weird.

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 9:38 am

Well, why not 4?

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 9:47 am

Well, if someone's going to go crazy, I find it odd when they choose the direction.

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 9:49 am

So, I'm really not sold on UT town, so I don't hate that LLD is pushing there.

On the other hand, I find her case too over the top to be legitimate.

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 9:50 am

I also still want her to answer about the UT backtracking thing.

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 10:08 am

In post 88, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Nothing as far as I can tell, though there is a certain... ah... special limitation to it that I won't get into.

Have you claimed this yet?

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 10:26 am

I thought that was a joke, mostly since Shadoweh claimed it for you.

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 10:53 am

In post 513, Cerulean wrote:Also did noone seriously but me have a problem with Kanye's first post?

This is rather lulzy.

Zdenek · Mon May 19, 2014 6:03 pm

In post 2173, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:Plus, if I was only interested in making it easier to look town, I'd not have claimed I took no action both nights.

And risked being counter-claimed by someone who's action went through?
I don't think so.

So what's the deal with the UT backtracking on Sixty thing?

Zdenek · Tue May 20, 2014 8:40 am

UT how did you not know how your behaviour affected people in The Reckoning before the game ended?

Zdenek · Tue May 20, 2014 11:15 am

Why do you think that is relevant to my question?

Zdenek · Tue May 20, 2014 11:24 am

I am confused at Plum not commenting on LLD's UT case.

Zdenek · Wed May 28, 2014 8:30 pm

Hello, will be back later today.

Zdenek · Thu May 29, 2014 9:24 am

Vote: LLD

Zdenek · Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:49 am

I'm still here.

Zdenek · Tue Jun 03, 2014 9:51 am

I'm debating how much faith to keep having in Sixty's town read on Venmar and CDB/Nacho's town reads on Tim Howard.