Nero Cain
I'm ... really confused about how Nero missed the fact that his vote would trigger a hammering double vote. I mean, it seems almost incredible. Nero's not an idiot. Venmar made a big deal of how the extra "sheep Majiffy or Thor" vote would only appear if he and Nero were both on the same wagon (first when he self-voted to demonstrate it, and then again when he (sarcastically?) urged Nero to join the Katsuki wagon). And it is in fact clear that Nero had quickly picked up the fact that Venmar had the Majiffy role.
On the other hand, I don't really see the scum motivation for this sort of "accidental" hammer. Katsuki was probably going to be lynched anyway (he was unlikely to be saved by a role claim in a uPick). Why would scum!Nero draw attention to himself this way for such a small reward?
I want to iso both NC and Venmar together later, but for now I'm leaning null-town.
Nobody Special
Really needs to post more. The "I'm just going to lurk because it's day 1 and I don't like day 1" attitude annoyed me (I mean,
nobody
likes day 1; if everyone lurked because of it nothing would actually happen worth dicussing). But it's an attitude I've seen from town before and it's apparanetly par for the course with NS. It's not day 1 now though. I'd still like to know why NS thinks Plum is scum.
Plum
Not really many posts to judge here.
I found the sequence of posts from
1262 to
1272 slightly odd. This seems like a strange way to interact with somebody you're scum-reading (or to "lead a discussion about them", which she later claims to be attempting to do.)
I'm also slightly confused by her current claim that "
CDB looked pretty Town to me". Can't really find anything in her iso to support that.
I think Plum could easily be scum, but that's as much a case of her not having enough posts for me to have formed a solid read as it is anything else. I'd like to here more from somebody who's town-reading her (which is ... um, chamber?).
Reckoner
I started my day 1 read thinking Reckoner was likely scum, but now I'm much less sure. The argument with Tierce was pointless, but later posts (in particular
1029) were much better and give a strong sense of somebody who's actually interested in putting effort into solving the game. (Plus, he's simply
right
about Tim Howard's "both sides made good points" remark being all sorts of odd.)
A fairly weak town-read at the moment.
Tim Howard
As I said in my earlier catch-up, Tim has some
horrible
posts. There's the pointless bickering with Sixty ("you made somebody playing mafia feel bad! you should feel bad about this!") which all takes place in a weird vacuum where he doesn't even acknowledge that the person Sixty upset (by accusing her of posting unfunny spam) is Cerulean. Of whom Tim says
"a lot of what they've posted is useless fluff". Plus there's the ridiculous
"I think Venmar is town because he probably can't fake frustration as scum" / "oh, Tammy rage-quit because she was upset? eh, that slot's probably scum" aspect of things. And more generally, his reads just seem bizarre and I can't really follow the thought process behind them (the attack on Zdenek for trying to be a town leader / having cast unexplained votes, for instance).
This all just feels like Tim Howard is more interested in stirring up arguments than in trying to understand the game. (There's also the very odd "Reck and Sixty both made good points ... no, I refuse to say what these points were".)
Main points in Tim Howard's defence are that there are people I know to have been town (namely sangres and CDB) who seemed pretty convinced that all this stuff was not alignment indicative and that Tim Howard is town. And I noticed that Tim Howard's
issues with Sixty actually started
before
Tammy's replace out, which suggests that the later stuff is just another case of "these two people don't get along" as opposed to anything calculated or game-relevant.
This is still a scum-read, but weaker than it would be otherwise.
Untrod Tripod
I'm struggling to remember a single post UT has made in this game. And as he's got 90 of them, that's a bit worrying.
There's the Plum stuff, I guess. And ... um. I guess that things like like
1444 followed by
1446 suggest a certain degree of spontaneity that's more likely to come from town than scum?
Solidly null still. (I suppose it's somewhat unlikely that UT and Plum are scum together, too.)
Venmar
His posts are irritating, and the (apparently genuine) "it's not my job to seem transparent, it's up to everybody else to learn how to read me" attitude infuriates me. Towards the end of day 1 I actually started leaning towards town-reading him though
. I think it's because of the
way
he revealed "his" extra vote (I agree that there's no reason to think scum
can't
have a double voter). I'm not really sure about this -- he just reminds me of other players who I've seen lynched more for playstyle than anything concrete.
A weaker scum-read than Tim Howard, but still that side of null for now. As I said earlier, I don't think Venmar and Nero make sense as scum together, but I'll reread them both in iso later.
(I should probably also read some of Venmar's past games, but I just ... really don't want to, honestly.)
.
. So you "legit believed" something you'd just seen wasn't true?