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Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Mon May 05, 2014 12:44 pm

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Awks, so like I may not be around till like Wednesday! Sorry!
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Post Post #9 (isolation #1) » Mon May 05, 2014 12:45 pm

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VOTE: AngryPidgeon

Cuz reasons, but not really.
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Post Post #11 (isolation #2) » Mon May 05, 2014 12:48 pm

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#Hater

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Post Post #159 (isolation #3) » Tue May 06, 2014 11:40 am

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You people are weird. My church is the best, gosh. We may be few put we are powerful! I think, I don't really know, I haven't been paying attention.

AP, you seem nice, catch me up.

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Post Post #160 (isolation #4) » Tue May 06, 2014 11:40 am

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ALSO, I am so chill.
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Post Post #170 (isolation #5) » Tue May 06, 2014 11:46 am

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Ouu Desperado, that's a fun one. MC thinks he's some cool shit, don't he? What a cutie.

Levi seems pretty weird so far, I dunno about him yet!
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Post Post #185 (isolation #6) » Tue May 06, 2014 11:58 am

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In post 172, Messiah Complex wrote:
In post 170, BipolarChemist wrote:Ouu Desperado, that's a fun one. MC thinks he's some cool shit, don't he? What a cutie.
huh?
In post 166, Messiah Complex wrote:
if there's one thing desperado doesn't do it's gambit
Desperado?

Levi had such an awkward sentence where he claimed town. I usually see scum give a definitive, sculpted even, I AM TOWN. I dunno, just in what I've seen so far, I may be townreading him.

p-edit: "I'm black" XD
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Post Post #188 (isolation #7) » Tue May 06, 2014 12:00 pm

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I love the confusion.
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Post Post #197 (isolation #8) » Tue May 06, 2014 12:24 pm

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Give me your case on Levi. Make it a good one.
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Post Post #199 (isolation #9) » Tue May 06, 2014 12:27 pm

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Tsk tsk, AP. Assuming I don't do background research before asking someone to do something!
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Post Post #202 (isolation #10) » Tue May 06, 2014 12:35 pm

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I read his stuff and I feel like I'm reading a newer players posts. Shit's awkward, half assed put together and frankly pretty funny to watch. I just don't see scum being as careless as levi is being.
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Post Post #204 (isolation #11) » Tue May 06, 2014 12:39 pm

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Well, to be fair, a lot of us suck balls.
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Post Post #210 (isolation #12) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:05 pm

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Bacde is a big I don't know for me! His posts are pretty null, he's asking some questions, seems to be on an okay track, but nothing really concrete.

MC: I did look! And I said what I saw. Maybe you need to take a look again, I just can't see him being scum after his posts today.

AP: Nah, my church can't be converted while I'm alive. I'm pretty important, yo.
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Post Post #222 (isolation #13) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:53 pm

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Set-up wise, I have a feeling scum could be in any church at any time. There's no guarantee that one religion/church is auto scum.

p-edit: Well you're not supposed to say things are reaction tests! That ruins the whole fun of it, Bacde.
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Post Post #228 (isolation #14) » Tue May 06, 2014 1:59 pm

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AP, why are you auto-assuming that nonrecruitable means scum?
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Post Post #246 (isolation #15) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:48 pm

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Awks AP, way to drag out mah powers!

What did you hope to achieve by faking that?

p-edit: You faked an 'I can't recruit you' on me and you got me to admit my power. What are you digesting? How the heck am I supposed to react? I'm not just gonna feign stupidity on the matter. I gave you a clear and precise reason for why you couldn't recruit me.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #16) » Tue May 06, 2014 2:56 pm

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When I see a quick train pop up and someone saying that I'm defs scum, I'm generally gonna tell you why I'm not scum.

p-edit: lol in my tired state, I can't tell if the massclaim thing is a joke or not -.-
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Post Post #418 (isolation #17) » Wed May 07, 2014 1:46 pm

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In post 380, leviathan93 wrote:
In post 378, Bacde wrote:Levi, will you pretty please vote quill with a cherry on top?

Ap, stop trying to bus bob and just keep bussing quill
If you want to lynch him, I will hammer, but I don't see the point unless he gets lynched.
In post 293, AngryPidgeon wrote:I'm really really not though. I dunno, is this anything to do with that newbie game where I was a scum IC?

p-edit: Do I need to start calling you confirmed scum and crying until people lynch you to get you to townread me?

Wait I've been scum with you town in like half of out games together >.>
I dont think Ive ever been town with you scum.

p-p-edit: Hm. Well I'll think on that. I know you pointed out that I felt less confident and
thats because Im an IC so I changed my style up intentionally
I dont really know why that is although I agree that I am less tunnely than I have been in the past. I come and go. Im actively trying not to be as much of a spazz (see my comment in Left for Dead mafia recently)

I may be starting to townread you >.>, but if you ARE scum you've entered "breaking my heart permanently" territory. JSYK. ; )
This post and the previous post feel pretty awkward and there is a large emphasis on out loud thinking. Again, something I'll need to do some background research on to get an idea of what's up. Something does feel off and I don't like it, kind of like how you get put off when someone is a bit too nice.
In post 330, AngryPidgeon wrote: That Bacde read is actually terrible. Its like hes -trying- to be stream of thought about it, but its just a little dash of IIoA and nothing about it tells me that hes actually read a singular bacde post. Bacde is certainly NOT someone in this game that its acceptable to have an "IDK my BFF JIll" read on right now.

Despite me being a confirmed/known troll, he seemingly recognizes that Im claiming a guilty on him and doesnt bother to do what all the town aligned players did (question why I tohugh not-recruitable = scum) and instead just tries to get me off of his nuts in the quickest way possible without bothering to try and determine if Im town/scum/3rd-party-lyncher etc. ITs scummy.

And then he follows it up with a "QQ you made me out my role" which is just an attempt to look opinionated and townie and certainly doesnt match with him tripping over himself to spill his role info despite my post being out of place and everyone else picking up on that.
I haven't played with you people before, so assuming I know everyone's meta beforehand is just stupid. After reading through the game and ISO, at the time, I felt he was null. I have no idea what IIoA stand for.

I don't know you, either. I think I played with you once in a game where I got too busy and had to replace out. I have no idea about your meta or how much you fuck around. I didn't feel like questioning you and why you thought I was scum through your 'guilty' result, instead I posted on why you're wrong. Yeah, I didn't want to have to go through some shitty semantics with you and what means what because I only have a few hours every night to tend to games, I work for a living, sue me.

In post 356, Axxle wrote:
In post 348, Bacde wrote:
Bicephalous Bob wrote: could you explain the plan to me
Fake a guilty on BPC in a round about way. Usually towns first thought is "you're lying", while scum's first thought is "oh shit, is there another possible explanation I could use to get out of this?"
Except I had a reason for why I couldn't be recruited. My first assumption isn't going to be "Oh he's lying", mine was "Well shit he knows my power now".
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Post Post #420 (isolation #18) » Wed May 07, 2014 1:47 pm

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I don't even know why 380 got quoted. I think I wanted to say something but I forgot already.
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Post Post #426 (isolation #19) » Wed May 07, 2014 4:14 pm

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How many times have you switched wagons today? lol
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Post Post #511 (isolation #20) » Thu May 08, 2014 4:17 pm

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I'm so sorry, I feel like an asshole. I just can't commit much time in the week to the game. This weekend, though, I promise I'll post some huge wall with my full thoughts and full reads and stuff on everyone!

My reads aren't solid, I know that, I haven't gotten to be able to do more then ISO's thus far and most of my reads are gut based.

My only big thought is how weak of an excuse implosion gave for voting me. Implosion, what do you think of my retort in in post ?
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Post Post #572 (isolation #21) » Wed May 14, 2014 6:17 pm

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I spent longer than I wanna admit on catching up, doing some proper reads and looking at backgrounds.

Axxle

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Early on he didn't give too much in the way of scumhunting, mostly only explaining his own actions. In post he seems to have some half decent reads, a little forced, but I'd call him town from that post alone. He went on to sheep some other players, which seems to be a consistent theme with him.

He began flopping around on his votes in 294, 234, and 356, with minimal explanation. It seems like he's just going along with whoever is most popular for lynch at any given point. Also, he seems to be against a Bob lynch in 356.

Then he began to go after Quill, but drops him for no real reason after tunnelling a bit on Quill. He drops that Quill hunt stating:
VOTE: lord god

I want him or Levi today.


Very odd. Then he votes bob for seemingly no reason at all.

Overall: Null to Scum. His later plays feel off to me.

Abelcain

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Err. I'm not totally sure here. He likes to big catch-up style posts. I'm finding him hard to read.

He speaks fairly formally and breaks at some points, his catch-up post had a lot but said very little other than he thinks Levi is scummy. I'd expect a bit more from a town catch-up post, but null-read here.

His read on me was pretty waffly, said I could seem scummy but my 418 post was agreeable. This was his post 428. Past this he goes off on Bob for a bit, with no vote being placed, with his vote still on Levi. Could be scum not wanting to bring attention to himself by not placing a vote, but I'm not too sure.

Overall: Nullish, if I head to lean, scum.

Jargonaut

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I like the confusion, I feels it's genuine. I'm seeing a lot of questioning and trying to figure things out, early on, I get a townie vibe off of it.
Post 487 is the post that makes me think she's town most. It feels honest and one of the few actual cases on Bob. There was a heavy focus on Bob afterwards but this to me seems like justification for her own vote.

Overall: Town.

Quill

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A lot of players seem to be scumreading this one, but I'm not sure I agree.

Quill seems to be a fairly angry player, constantly defending himself or being deflective. I'm seeming it as more angry town than scum, but this is more of a gut read.

I honestly don't think scum would be daft enough to say that a player is probably not scum, but still a good lynch. Seems too off for scum to say.

Overall: Null-Town. Not too much on this guy.

leviathan93

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Levi is a very interesting player, he's so off the cuff and uses =P excessively! =P

I'm willing to look to AP on this read, like I just can't see him being scum. He's consistently trying to figure out the game and gives some insight into his thought process. Also, the whole not being able to find his PT Church topic was funny.

He had no problem voting me and gave reasoning why. I'd expect Levi to be a little more apprehensive in going for a town lynch as scum.

Overall: Town, so town, omg so very town.

Lord God

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Man, he is not a talker. Makes getting a read a bit difficult!

One of the few to truly call AP on his trolly crap, but it didn't seem to get fleshed out.

Most of his posts just consist of defending earlier comments of his. I'm not sure he's invested in the game.

Overall: Null.

Implosion

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Seems to be pretty informal from the start, and joking quite a bit, nothing really forced. His initial vote on Messiah Complex was awkward, with no real reasoning.

On his big catch-up post, he had developing reads in his post, like as he was writing he realized new things. This, I think, is town. Albeit, town that's not really paying attention.

He states that he thinks I'm scum, and votes Abelcain with no reasoning what-so-ever, I'm not sure what he's trying to do. For some reason I thought he voted me, but I wasn't paying attention either :P

Overall: Leaning Town.

Klazam

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I'm a fan of this guy's day one play. He is consistently questioning and talking. I see quite a bit of trying to figure out the game and what is really taking place, and some overall town plays.

I liked how he was hitting on Axxle for his weak LG vote, I find he is picking up on the right things.

His Bob vote was a little odd, I didn't see too much reasoning for it, but that seems to be a theme. In fact, after a quick look, Klazam barely even mentioned Bob before he placed a vote, other than stating a gut reaction and one quote.

Overall: Leaning Town, not sure about the Bob thing though.

Angry Pidgeon

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He's very good at masking his alignment with his trolly attitude, most of my reads here are from other recentish games and interactions near day end with Bob.

I took a look at a couple games where he was scum and I felt like he was more aggressive there, but close to the same posting style as this game. Frankly, his town game doesn't feel too much different, so I'm pretty null on alignment from that, but if I had to choose, town from it all. Also, omg I had to go so far back to find a town game from him.

I feel like his reads in 313 and 314 are pretty honest. He doesn't have a problem waffling a bit and being honest on that front. His Bob read here seemed like a good pressuring statement, like he's actually trying to get him to talk. He does the same to Quill in 325.

330, he calls me out on my crap and mainly noting I'm not invested. I'd lean town from this posting, I don't see scum going that hard on town, but I don't really know AP. Input on this would be good!

When AP talked about trying to be much more invested in this game, I can see it for sure in his posts. Grabbing knowledge from previous games and he's always on top of everyone and everything. There's something about his investment that makes me think he's town going hard. He doesn't jump on scumtells and he doesn't take some easy lynchs there could have been, like Levi's crap.

Err, then there is his Bob stuff near day end. He was willing enough to point out he was tunnelling Bob, but he's made this joke multiple times. He definitely has a good lead up to wanting to lynch Bob. Consistently prodding Bob to post, with some early possible scum thoughts on him.

Overall: I'm gonna go with Town, both my reads and gut are saying this.

Bacde

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He posts a lot, but there isn't much content per post. All together, he jumps around quite a bit and then settles on Quill pretty hard. He wanted Quill lynched for a good portion of day 1, as well as Levi earlier on. I had very few notes on Bacde, but one thing I did notice was his "I'm coming around on Levi" one. It just stood out for some reason

Analyzing some past games of his, I don't think I got too much information, but I didn't go too far back with him. He did feel a bit looser in his town games, like willing to joke around a bit. He feels fairly serious in this game except for his interactions with AP, but they seem like old buds.

I'm not too convinced of his Bob vote and reasoning behind it. Claiming Bob is his 'compromise lynch' feels like a very easy phrase for scum to hide behind.

I'd actually stick a bit on my earlier read of null on him. I find Bacde hard to read, but the couple things that did stand out were minorly scummy.

Overall: Kinda Scum


Jargo's list is actually close to my list. The three scummiest votes I saw on the Bob train were Klazam, Bacde, and Axxle!

My actual scum-list is: Axxle, Bacde, and Abelcain (from scummiest to least scummy)
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Post Post #573 (isolation #22) » Wed May 14, 2014 6:18 pm

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Sorry for not linking posts, I got a bit lazy.
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Post Post #579 (isolation #23) » Wed May 14, 2014 6:31 pm

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VOTE: Bacde

How 'bout no? I may not be very good, but gosh darn I'm trying!

You claimed that Bob was your 'compromise' lynch at one point, why not continue going after your stronger scumreads?
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Post Post #581 (isolation #24) » Wed May 14, 2014 6:46 pm

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So, because I wasn't very active that means my reads are worthless? These are some weak arguments, man.
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Post Post #676 (isolation #25) » Sat May 17, 2014 5:57 am

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In post 583, Bacde wrote:I like how bpc ignored every post i made except the one where i called him out

Its like hes trying to make me seem worse than i actually am
MEH.
In post 625, Klazam wrote:I was pretty sure that Bob was scum from his iso, so thats why i voted him. Ah well, i could'v put in more reasoning i guess, but thats in the past. I'm really stuck on if either of you (AP/Bacde) is scum- some posts make me feel one way and some makes me feel the other...

Lots of people (including me) needs to post more.
You thought he was scummy from his ISO, but why not discuss your thoughts or even give some reasoning? There was like nothing from you on that front.
In post 660, Klazam wrote: BipolarChemist- He is unrecruitable for sure ( I tried), and since this setup is so much about the PT'es i don't think scum should be unrecruitable. #outguessingthemod so town here
Can confirm. This neckbeard tried to recruit me. I don't think it's good to excuse all unrecruitables as town.
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Post Post #677 (isolation #26) » Sat May 17, 2014 5:57 am

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So how does one properly read AP? I'm kind of at a loss :P
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Post Post #682 (isolation #27) » Sat May 17, 2014 9:28 am

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Why the hate, #APTheHater?
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Post Post #684 (isolation #28) » Sat May 17, 2014 9:41 am

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Do you want me to NK you so you dont have to worry about the game? #ImThereForYaBud
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Post Post #691 (isolation #29) » Sat May 17, 2014 5:59 pm

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In post 686, Klazam wrote: I know i should've said more. I didn't, and that's something i'll have to deal with.

you're probably right on that, but your reaction in itself says town to me so.. :p
So you're not gonna question my neckbeard comment?
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Post Post #694 (isolation #30) » Sat May 17, 2014 6:39 pm

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Klazam! Think about my reaction to AP's fake convert, I had no idea if it had happened or not, yet I know that you did try to convert me. Why is that? Well...

I reflexively role cop people when they try to convert me at night. Why is one of your active abilities a factional night kill? Also, the bit about /r/athiesm posts made me lol.

p-edit: You figured it out!
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Post Post #695 (isolation #31) » Sat May 17, 2014 7:05 pm

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So quiet...
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Post Post #697 (isolation #32) » Sat May 17, 2014 7:22 pm

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Oh duh! I got all excited and I forgot.

VOTE: Klazam
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Post Post #704 (isolation #33) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:06 pm

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Oh boy, I'm not sure what to think of your reaction here. All of what I said was true, except the factional kill part. And my claim does make sense, please read again.
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Post Post #705 (isolation #34) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:06 pm

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No, ya, that reaction I think is pretty town.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #708 (isolation #35) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:09 pm

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I was very iffy on your Bob vote and the more I thought about it the more I was worried you were scum. You had already came out as a recruiter and I know your roles, so I figured that it couldn't hurt to run a gambit!

My role cop thing only shows non-alignment indicative roles, so I wouldn't be able to see factional kills or anything.
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Post Post #710 (isolation #36) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:11 pm

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How could I have lost us the game? In my mind, I believe pretty strongly you are town. I was already under suspicion and damn near going out the door at this point, so fuck it.
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Post Post #712 (isolation #37) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:16 pm

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I don't think I set you up to be hung at all. In fact, I think you look super town from it. Also, my biggest fencesitting read was probably Lord God.
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Post Post #716 (isolation #38) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:19 pm

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I'll elaborate on that sentence then.

I have most everyone calling me scummy. I also have a feeling it doesn't matter what I do, I'll more than likely be lynched. So, I'm going to get the information I know out there and try to either catch scum or find town. I think I found town.
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Post Post #718 (isolation #39) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:25 pm

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How do you see this being a scum gambit? Where's the scum motivation here?
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Post Post #721 (isolation #40) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:28 pm

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I'm L Ron Hubbard. Members of my church can't be recruited while I'm alive and I reflexively role cop players that target me for conversion at night. Not much I haven't already claimed!

I know you hate me, come in for some auditing and we'll help you out.
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Post Post #723 (isolation #41) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:29 pm

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In post 720, Klazam wrote:
In post 718, BipolarChemist wrote:How do you see this being a scum gambit? Where's the scum motivation here?
BipolarChemist wrote:How could I have lost us the game? In my mind, I believe pretty strongly you are town. I was already under suspicion and damn near going out the door at this point, so fuck it.
Last ditch attempt to get a townie mislynched?
Dude, I keep saying I think you're super town from this... come on.
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Post Post #725 (isolation #42) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:32 pm

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So then why would I come clean right away? Why wouldn't I press on?
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Post Post #728 (isolation #43) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:34 pm

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Now, I'm going to bed which I planned to do 2 hours ago, but I got all excited and jittery about this all and I'm so amped up right now, like omg im not even sure I can sleep.
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Post Post #736 (isolation #44) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:49 pm

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I've never run a reaction test or gambit before, but I have been playing for a couple years (just not on this site).

I did come clean after he had pointed out the flaws in my claim, but really I had no other time to come clean beforehand! He posted quite rapidly, all within about 8 minutes. I was watching House, geez!
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Post Post #738 (isolation #45) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:51 pm

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Cuz you're the only one I had results on and I don't know how busy I'll be past this weekend!
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Post Post #740 (isolation #46) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:53 pm

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Well I had about a 3 hour car drive today where I thought about the details of it. Also, I found the thread was kinda boring beforehand.
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Post Post #742 (isolation #47) » Sat May 17, 2014 8:59 pm

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From about 3pmish to 6pmish? (EDT)
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Post Post #747 (isolation #48) » Sat May 17, 2014 9:06 pm

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That was around the time where I started to think about it! Hit the road shortly after thinking about how it would fully unfold, I had originally planned to just do my role claim, but figured there could be something better here!

Also, partial motivation for the neckbeard comment was to screw with you a bit considering the avatar! :P
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Post Post #749 (isolation #49) » Sat May 17, 2014 9:10 pm

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Most people don't like the things I do. Now it's past 4am, and I'm actually going to sleep. Excited to see what fun will be here later...

I may be okay with Abel lynch, but I don't know where the vote is at and I need to research more!
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Post Post #759 (isolation #50) » Sun May 18, 2014 5:50 am

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In post 755, Quill wrote: I'm mostly fine with assuming both you and BPC are town after that exchange, but why is your church atheism, instead of Pastafarianism?

I also don't have a reason not to vote Abel, but I'd sort of prefer him to be prodded...or replaced, at this point. I don't think he's posted all day, so....
You know, I kind of equated Pastafariansim and his Athiesm church together, but in the role cop, I know he specifically recruits for Pastafarianism. Explanation Klazam?
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Post Post #779 (isolation #51) » Sun May 18, 2014 5:35 pm

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In post 764, leviathan93 wrote: what? i'm defending myself? i don't have a need to defend myself today you are right.

oh. and reading the thread. I like klazam now. just saying.

but i am suddenly suspicious of Abelcain.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Abelcain

If Messiah was town, I feel very unlikely that abelcain is town as well.
You seem to be following along with whatever is popular right now. Care to give some extra reasoning on why you think abelcain is scum? Any comments on the thing that happened a couple pages ago?

I'll follow this Abelcain thing, see where it goes for now :P

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Post Post #781 (isolation #52) » Sun May 18, 2014 5:45 pm

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I do see the irony, but I have expressed that I think Abelcain's interaction with Bob yesterday was possibly scummy! :P
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Post Post #831 (isolation #53) » Tue May 20, 2014 2:33 am

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I will respond too all of that...tonight....when I'm not at work...I promise...I hope...k...bye for now...
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Post Post #853 (isolation #54) » Tue May 20, 2014 12:54 pm

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In post 800, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 729, Bacde wrote:He obviously didnt try to fully fake a guilty on you until i asked about it, and then went into rxn test mode
I think its scum theater. I might be dumb. I might be 100% wrong. I might be driving this crazy train right into the ground....but I think Klaz/BPC are scum together.
One day I will partake in some scum theatre, but that day was not that day. I cannot wait for that day though!
In post 730, Bacde wrote:Do notice that he didnt back out until you had essentially proved he was lying
:?: There is no proof, its just whatever they both say. BPC is like "Ya Klaz is mafia lmao". Klaz is like "No Im not, Im an athiest and my powers are XYZ" BPC says in retort: "Oh thats cool, I was just kidding about you being mafia". There was no proof of anything in there, elaborate? It just all looks fake to me. Fake edit: Oh, he did call Klazam 'leaning town' at the start of the Day. Still, I don't think BPC ever intended to fake a guilty on Klazam here. There is not enough purpose/force behind his posts.
The part where I started thinking he was town was at about post . was made then I went to submit, saw a couple more posts in the warning page thingy, but I was a little too excited, just submitted my post, then thought about his couple of new posts, hence

I didn't intend to fake a guilty at the start of this day phase, that's for sure, then when I did have the idea, I was like "Fuck it, why not?". Also, have I really ever felt forceful here? I don't think I'm very forceful ever.
In post 750, implosion wrote:i actually read what bpc had done and i am completely willing to write off bpc as town. As well as klazam.
Ugh and its posts like this that make me so paranoid/uncertain/waffly.

Why on earth do you think this? Why are you lumping both together and writing them off? You scum with BPC?
I agree with your thoughts here, his jump right to calling me town feels incredibly off and makes me worried that it's scum just trying to get on the "Oh they're conftown now" bandwagon.

Spoiler:
In post 818, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 817, Jargonaut wrote:AP, why did the exchange between Klazam and BPC make BPC look worse than he did before to you?
I meant that BPC looked worse than Klazam. As in, I find Klaz-scum/BPC-town less likely out of that exchange than the reverse. Although TBH I really didnt like the exchange at all. Would douse both parties involved with kerosene and matches.

I dunno, why didn't I like it? I really wish I could say what it is about it that bugs me (other than everyone climbing over each other to shower town points at this little backandforth).

I disliked BPC pressing Klazam over the difference between atheism and Pastafarianism because it just feels like a pointless inquiry. I know Quill is mostly the one that asked about this.
[url=http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 902350Post 723[/url]is like... really? I don't know. I think it just looks bad and I don't know why.
I also disliked 718 where he tries to get someone to point to scum motivation in his gambit. I think town players are more likely to focus on why their actions are town. Scum players are more likely to try and argue that their actions are not scummy. And maybe there ISN'T explicit scum motive behind this. Maybe BPC just wanted to prove his role by claiming it in the thread so that he looks townish for it. Maybe hes just doing random things so people townread him. And he went from "IDK what to think!!" to "Ok that reaction was pretty town" in < 1 minute between his posts. Which looks pretty over-the-top to me and I dont see anything in his posts that indicates he is analyzing this in a genuine way.

Klazam...IDK just also felt a little clunky in this exchange. Damn it. ISOing these 2 clowns is making me want to revote them. Quill/BPC/Klazam team? Im not sure why he full claims in response to BPC saying he has a factional NK. Just sort of ... ok I guess? Then he calls BPC scum for his reaction to me despite BPC having already accounted for that. I dunno, I feel like Klazam as town should have wondered if BPC was gambiting about all this? Instead he sort of hints that its possible but never says anything about maybe it being the case. I dunno.
In post 708, BipolarChemist wrote:I was very iffy on your Bob vote and the more I thought about it the more I was worried you were scum. You had already came out as a recruiter and I know your roles, so I figured that it couldn't hurt to run a gambit!

My role cop thing only shows non-alignment indicative roles, so I wouldn't be able to see factional kills or anything.
I dislike the latter half of this. There are alignment-indicative roles in the game? BPC knows that his role doesnt work on them? It explicitly says that? I mean...mmmmm
SKETCH. V SKETCH.


I disliked pressing him over it too. My PT buddy mentioned it and it got mentioned in the thread by someone, I don't remember who, so I was like "FINE UGH, I'll ask the stupid fucking question" and so I asked the question, getting the response I already expected to get.

About the player on the other side of the gambit not realizing gambit thing, I'm not sure you're the best at reading that AP, at least in the experience I've had with you :P

"Maybe hes just doing random things so people townread him." Maybe....maybe not...I mean there's motivation for me to stay alive, I want people to think I'm town no matter what alignment I am. I think this is kind of a dumb statement, AP.

I explained the <1 minute thing above!

Klazam's full claim wasn't really the point that I townread, it was more of his pissed-offedness (I made up a word). Sometimes I'm a sucker for some emotion.

Finally, for the alignment indicative thing, it didn't state that in my role pm, I learned this when I got my role cop info on Klazam.
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Post Post #854 (isolation #55) » Tue May 20, 2014 12:59 pm

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In post 824, leviathan93 wrote:
In post 822, Bacde wrote:Can we lynch levi? Jargo is absolutely right about levi having no town motivation at all, and I agree that jargo is definitely town. We are obviously both a bit paranoid of eqch other AP so it makes sense for both of us to sheep a mutual townread
yeah. Jargo don't seem like no town folk. just saying. and this post don't seem like no town motivation. =P
Jargo is probably on of my strongest town reads. What is your reasoning for thinking she's not town?
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AP wrote:Why on earth do you think this? Why are you lumping both together and writing them off? You scum with BPC?
Not lumping them together - I'm writing them off as town individually based on both of their actions.

I think BPC's fake guilty, the way it was done, is more likely town than scum.

I think Klazam's reaction to the whole thing was very genuine. I can be more specific on either of these if desired.
Can't tell if you're just blindly following along or like actually have these thoughts. Hmmm...
In post 831, BipolarChemist wrote:I will respond too all of that...tonight....when I'm not at work...I promise...I hope...k...bye for now...
I responded wooooooot!
In post 841, AngryPidgeon wrote:BPC makes me nervous. I like a lot of his points, but I cant shake the feeling that he is making good points for conclusions that he already knows. I did sort of like him asking me why non-recruitable = scum at one point since apparently he cant be recruited. Meh.
MEH. I'd lynch it but not feel great about it.
Waitwaitwait, you like my points? I MADE GOOD POINTS? Dafuq is this shit? AP's autoscum.
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Post Post #855 (isolation #56) » Tue May 20, 2014 1:01 pm

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I'd be hella more down for an Axxle lynch than a Quill lynch. Also, where the hell is Axxle?

VOTE: Axxle
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Post Post #860 (isolation #57) » Tue May 20, 2014 1:35 pm

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In post 857, leviathan93 wrote:@chemist, because i think the other people seem more town. If everyone appears town to me, then the question is more of the fact who appears more town than the other townies.
So everyone in the game is a townread for you?
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Post Post #875 (isolation #58) » Tue May 27, 2014 2:13 pm

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Sorry guys, been so busy the past bit, will try to catch up soon! #lol #GetTheReference?
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Post Post #912 (isolation #59) » Thu May 29, 2014 7:17 am

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Bitch plz, come in for an audit and we'll see who has the best religion then!
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Post Post #934 (isolation #60) » Fri May 30, 2014 3:38 pm

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Okay. Good idea time: Let's lynch Axxle. He's scummy, pretty much no one thinks he's town and I totes called this day start aww yiss, smd. WOOO

He is like L-1, locking would be like sper cool and it would basically make my day so if y'all could day that, I'd be happy.
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Post Post #936 (isolation #61) » Fri May 30, 2014 3:49 pm

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Noooooo, 48 hours is like a eternity in internet time. Imagine if you locked like now, then shti will resume in like a couple days and considering you're probs scum or something, you'll be able to look at this 'hard'. And hard, man? like at most half mast, for me.
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Post Post #938 (isolation #62) » Fri May 30, 2014 3:52 pm

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Axxle, that fence rod jammed up your ass, get off of it!
I believe in you, bud!
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Post Post #944 (isolation #63) » Fri May 30, 2014 4:17 pm

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I may be drunk, but how do you see this as scum exactly, axx?
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Post Post #949 (isolation #64) » Sat May 31, 2014 5:03 pm

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Argh, guys, I wanted an Axxle lynch. Why are you unvoting? WHY? UGH.
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Post Post #951 (isolation #65) » Sat May 31, 2014 5:52 pm

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Levi....levi...buddy...levi...guy.

Wanna lynch bacde with me? This Axxle thing is so May 2014.
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Post Post #1018 (isolation #66) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:25 pm

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UGH you people are back on me again? Annoying. I thought we went through this for a day, let's move on to the obviscum, Axxle.
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Post Post #1019 (isolation #67) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:28 pm

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I highly doubt Jargo will vote me. Why are you floppin around everywhere, Bacde?
In post 965, Bacde wrote:
In post 951, BipolarChemist wrote:Levi....levi...buddy...levi...guy.

Wanna lynch bacde with me? This Axxle thing is so May 2014.
Stop bussing town man and start voting scum
I am voting scum! Geez!

So you're pretty much just going off AP's thoughts on your read on me? Someone has a crush ;)
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Post Post #1020 (isolation #68) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:29 pm

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AP stop tunnelling on a townie so much or I'll have to think you're scum!
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Post Post #1023 (isolation #69) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 2:37 pm

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Spoiler:
In post 979, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 949, BipolarChemist wrote:Argh, guys, I wanted an Axxle lynch. Why are you unvoting? WHY? UGH.
Hey BPC. How about. We have a showdown hoedown at the town center Today. Right now I think your emotion looks faked and Im willing to double down on this read right now cause I need some course in this game.

[...snip...]

Also I voted for BPC in the middle of this post then took it back.

Implosion still doesnt feel like he has in the past as town to me, but I just sort of like his excuses enough to not want to vote him and his last post sort of halted my intent of maybe voting him (I removed the BPC vote cause I was thinking about doing it).

Now I think Im just gonna do this for now and hopefully feel great about it later. VOTE: Bipolar Chemist
In post 982, AngryPidgeon wrote:Ok I cant actually support that Bacde read. Fuck it. I just WANT him to be scum this game cause if hes town hes throwing hard.

BPC probs is though, in fact I just ISO'd Messiah (something apparently no one else has done despite everyone else talking about motive for killing him?) and he was voteparking BPC most of D1. So I feel better about voting BPC.
In post 983, AngryPidgeon wrote:Heh. Well if my hacky attempts to characterize BPC's personality and dive into the one spoiler post he made and determine who his buddies are based off how he talks about people are accurate, its BPC, Leviathan, Klazam scumteam. Lol. And ofc assuming Im right about BPC. I really do think Im right about BPC though. Can we just lynch him Today? And if we are determined to mislynch hilariously obvious town, we can lynch me and then ignore the fact that Messiah was voting BPC (cause only AP would want to NK him and ignore that AP thought BPc was scum (cause AP wsa lynched rather than NKd)? That'd be fantastic.
In post 986, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 579, BipolarChemist wrote:VOTE: Bacde

How 'bout no? I may not be very good, but gosh darn I'm trying!

You claimed that Bob was your 'compromise' lynch at one point, why not continue going after your stronger scumreads?
Bacde this is me blatantly buddying you. Vote this clown with me plz.


I dunno, AP, you got on a roll there for me being scum in just a few posts! Also a hell of a lot of Messiah love. What exactly did you do in that QT ;)
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #70) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 1:46 pm

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In post 1057, Lord God wrote:
In post 1027, Axxle wrote:
In post 974, Lord God wrote:If you are good at finding town, who are your townreads?
Bacde, BPC, levi are my strongest.
Disagree on Bcade.
BiPolar did something I liked as town early game.
Levi is town.
What be the thing I did?
In post 1062, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 1061, Lord God wrote:why compromise when we can lynch professional scum?
Because you have no actual reasons for believing Im scum?
Im not scum.
I am town.
Im actually participating in this game which makes a lynch on me one of the most shitty lynched imaginable, just gut the town why don't you.
The reasons for scumreading me continue to blow.
Bacde probably is scum tbh but Im too much committed to not pushing it emotionally right now to actually do it.
Pretty sure scum can be active too. I don't like your implications that just because you're talking it makes you town.
In post 1124, mastin2 wrote:Aaaaaaaanywaaaaay, basic rundown is that I'm basically immortal this game, and I think I get the mechanic, so I don't really need to obvtown myself to y'all right now. If I get some good reads, we'll be set.

I see AP, I see him in danger, and I'll see about a read on him when I have more time to look.
The very few times I've seen you in mafia games, you post a lot. Like walls. I see no catch up post or thoughts on the game. Hmmmm.
In post 1158, leviathan93 wrote:actually never mind. I forgot that i'm confirmed to him but he isn't to me. =P

I do still kind of believe he is town though...
This has to be town, right? I can't read this any other way, other than scum hamming it up quite a bit, but at least scum would wait a few minutes before the OH SHIT NO moment.

I wanna hear from Mastin on the rest of the game, I wanna see her wall!

I this AP fighting for his life as scum or town? I think he sounds more desperate here, which I'd call more town judging from previous game him being lynched as scum. I found he joked around as scum, really trying to earn them townie points. He's not a player that likes to die as scum or town. I don't think he's scum and I'd much rather lynch Bacde in this '1v1', but 1v1 is dumb, let's not.

I still strongly believe Axxle is scum. He seems to just be following whatever the most popular train is at any given point in time. This goes back to his Bob vote, just following along apart of the crowd. I think it's scummy as all hell and deserves to be lynched for it.
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Post Post #1163 (isolation #71) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:24 pm

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Then let's lynch the shit out of Axxle, omg.
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Post Post #1166 (isolation #72) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 5:39 pm

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>_>
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #73) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 10:45 am

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I only have like 10 minutes of time to post right now, so I'm not caught up. AP, did you receive a PM from the mod at day start by any chance?
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Post Post #1189 (isolation #74) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:17 am

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I need a response from the mod and ill get back to you on this i promise.
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Post Post #1190 (isolation #75) » Thu Jun 05, 2014 11:26 am

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Alright yeah im like pretty sure AP is town.
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Post Post #1274 (isolation #76) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:01 am

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Sorry about the cryptic question. It confirmed something for me and my PT partner.

I'm like 95% sure AP is town, knowing who he bussed. AP, you can figure out how I know, I'm sure you can, but I don't wanna give away too much!

Mastin unsettles me in her posts. She gives reads then just say "No no don't listen, they're bad reads." It feels as thought she could be scum just rambling on making it look like she's actually posting. Not sure I'm willing to vote her over Axxle though.
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Post Post #1277 (isolation #77) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 9:53 am

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Eh, I don't even know if I'm scumreading Mastin right now, I just feel off about her is all.
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Post Post #1308 (isolation #78) » Mon Jun 09, 2014 5:27 pm

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/prod dodge post, but also my position hasn't changed.
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Post Post #1341 (isolation #79) » Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:10 am

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Mastin, how in the heck do you think Axxle is town? And of all people for scum, Klazam? Really?
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Post Post #1548 (isolation #80) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:02 pm

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Jesus, with my message thing.

My power is negative utility for sure. I have to choose one player per night who gets a message saying that a boy was stolen from them and placed on a boat harem! I can't tell you the second part, but it's negative!

My role is huge and makes no sense! Go L Ron Hubbard!

I can get behind a Mastin lynch, mostly just for recent posts when the pressure is coming down. Feels a bit flaily! (ya ya weak reasoning, shut up, AP). Let's get it going!

Also, just to confirm, ya I targeted AP with my ability last night, so redirect to Mastin makes sense. I also fought to get Jargo to recruit you, AP! I thought you'd be a nice addition <3
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Post Post #1552 (isolation #81) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:14 pm

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I dunno exactly what you get sent, that's just my end of it! Well at least you know where he is now.
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Post Post #1697 (isolation #82) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:37 am

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NOT A GAMBIT I SWEAR

Jargo targetted someone for a kill last night. Discuss.
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Post Post #1699 (isolation #83) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:40 am

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She claimed bulletproof in the PT and that she targetted a player for conversion. I can confirm that she targeted for conversion, but she didn't mention anything about Vig or anything.
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Post Post #1702 (isolation #84) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:46 am

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I should probably just full claim, because my role is large.

I told you about the reflexive role cop bit, as well as the sending a message thing. Also, anyone in my church cannot be converted. I will also be informed of all abilities used by members of my church. I will also reflexively kill the hammering player if I am lynched.

I am L Ron Hubbard. I am a Scientologist.

I know that Jargo targeted for a kill and I believe this is a guilty result on her.

VOTE: Jargo
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Post Post #1709 (isolation #85) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:52 am

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In post 1708, AngryPidgeon wrote:
In post 1705, Jargonaut wrote:I definitely do not believe your claim. You claim to have
4
different abilities, one of which is is an immediate guilty should (any) of your PT partners be scum.
See, I think a town player would have said: "I definitely do not believe your claim. I didn't try to kill anyone last night".
This.

She's also claiming I'm framing her lol
Jargo, which one is an auto guilty?
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Post Post #1710 (isolation #86) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:53 am

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In post 1706, Axxle wrote:VOTE: Klazam

I delayed him last night. If will kill him today he will not get the kill off so we save whoever he targeted.
Hey, are you in our PT now?
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Post Post #1712 (isolation #87) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:54 am

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Would a delayer delay the death of a player?
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Post Post #1714 (isolation #88) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:55 am

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No, I mean like, if a player was targeted by a killing role and by the delayer. Would that death be delayed?
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Post Post #1716 (isolation #89) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:57 am

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It says you targeted someone for a kill. I did not get this from night 1.

Also, Axxle how are you not commenting on any of this? like big shit goin down.
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Post Post #1718 (isolation #90) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:59 am

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In post 1716, BipolarChemist wrote: Also, Axxle how are you not commenting on any of this? like big shit goin down.
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Post Post #1720 (isolation #91) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:02 am

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I don't know about Axxle scum. Jargo claimed she targeted him for conversion last night, but she's still calling me scum in the PT. Bluff...double bluff?
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Post Post #1721 (isolation #92) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:02 am

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I'd like to hear from axxle on this, but I'm kinda seeing how his reaction could be town.
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Post Post #1725 (isolation #93) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:07 am

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@Jargo: Because he talks and gives thoughts and having him in a PT sounds incredibly useful, as well as being able to keep tabs on people who talk and give thoughts constantly.
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Post Post #1729 (isolation #94) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:10 am

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Vote Counts everywhere! I gotta leave work now though. So I'll hopefully be back soonish btu I'm building a compuer tonight so I have no idea. I'm so sorry, but I have given all the information I have!
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Post Post #1730 (isolation #95) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:10 am

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Also lol "was you recruited"
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Post Post #1764 (isolation #96) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:51 pm

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Alright, Hi, ya. I built my computer and it's beautiful <3

I am begrudgingly okay with the super saint usage plan. It doesn't look like I have anyone left in my church, so my usefulness is like zero in terms of power roles now.
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Post Post #1767 (isolation #97) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:06 pm

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Post Post #1769 (isolation #98) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:38 pm

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In post 1764, BipolarChemist wrote:Alright, Hi, ya. I built my computer and it's beautiful <3
Update on this: Fuck computers. Fuck them. I hate them.

Also Jargo, come on bud, give it up! We're both dying today.
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Post Post #1771 (isolation #99) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:41 pm

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@Axxle, did you receive a message about a boy being taken?
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Post Post #1775 (isolation #100) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:55 pm

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Quickest day ever? Do we want to wait for some more to respond or want me to just put myself at L-1?
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Post Post #1786 (isolation #101) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:06 pm

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Hmm, you should have gotten a thing from me, Axxle...
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Post Post #1788 (isolation #102) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:10 pm

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In post 1779, AngryPidgeon wrote:I kind of think BPC is scum. Seriously who the fuck, as scum, talks to town in their PT and calls them scum.
So do you think both Jargo and I are scum then? How would any of this play make sense then?

Aight, pop it lock it polka dot it, Jargo.

pedit: This wasn't a recruit action on you Axxle. So considering you got one message, you probs should have gotten mine.
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Post Post #1791 (isolation #103) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:13 pm

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That's that?

I'm town. Jargo own up yo
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Post Post #1794 (isolation #104) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:29 pm

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I was going to bed, but now I'm too damn giddy. Damn it.
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Post Post #1798 (isolation #105) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:32 pm

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I shall leave with Jargo seemed to be pushing that I was scum even in the PT. I think this is because she still thought Axxle was coming into the PT, so I think that Axxle is likely town. But who knows. I think I said this before but meh MEH MEEEEH. Suck it AP.
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Post Post #1800 (isolation #106) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:35 pm

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<3

I'm never mad.

Just like last game I was in, an obvi town player made a huge case against me and like I was town and it was mylo/lylo. Even then I couldn't be mad. I don't even know if the mad thing was directed at me, I'm just rambly right now and ya...

Also, big hint, I'm town, always, in everything. Just a good rule of thumb!
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Post Post #1801 (isolation #107) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:35 pm

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It wasn't directed at me! Well story time is over I guess :P
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Post Post #1806 (isolation #108) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:43 pm

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Last statement!

<3 Jargo, I thought you were town until today! I'm sorry!
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Post Post #1809 (isolation #109) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:45 pm

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Pretty sure Jargo is a she.
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Post Post #1811 (isolation #110) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:46 pm

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lol levi
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Post Post #1813 (isolation #111) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:47 pm

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Dude, I was hammered. The day is done lol
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Post Post #1814 (isolation #112) » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:47 pm

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lolollol You haven't even read all
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Post Post #2187 (isolation #113) » Fri Aug 01, 2014 7:21 am

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