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Post Post #24 (isolation #0) » Sun Jun 01, 2014 7:10 am

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The most curious thing is scum.

Vote: TMCT
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Post Post #170 (isolation #1) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:31 am

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We could just lynch Dry-Fit.

Not that I've read anything since the first page yet. Well, except for the start of the post where he said that the scummiest thing in the thread is someone naked voting.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #2) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:42 am

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In post 36, Xayzeck wrote:I think townmastin would be more confident in her(his?) Reads even at this game stage
Weird.
In post 42, The Most Curious Thing wrote:
In post 33, MafiaSSK wrote:Mastin's scum.

VOTE: TheNecro
You don't have Day 1 voting privileges anymore good sir :wink:
In post 36, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 33, MafiaSSK wrote:Mastin's scum.

VOTE: TheNecro
I feel the same

But it could be my omgus speaking

I think townmastin would be more confident in her(his?) Reads even at this game stage
Oh god this is wishy-washy.

VOTE: Xayzeck
What was wishy-washy about it?
In post 51, Natirasha wrote:I believe you're town tmct! They just don't know you!
Tell me about him.
In post 52, Fear wrote:does this mean you're the bitch in this hydra
This could die.
In post 61, Spring Starflower wrote:lets policy lynch aegor instead
Why do you think that Aegor is a reasonable policy lynch?
That's not been my experience with him.
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Post Post #177 (isolation #3) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:44 am

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In post 171, Dry-fit wrote:Well there hasn't been anything of great importance that's happened so far that I can tell.
Ok, but then how are naked votes scummy? I mean if you think nothing important has happened, what do you think the scum motivation is for naked voting?
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Post Post #179 (isolation #4) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 10:55 am

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In post 78, Jordan_Downey wrote:He's getting better, but he's not on the same level as mastin yet.
This is a pretty bizarre standard to hold someone to.
In post 91, Spring Starflower wrote:i strongly dont trust slots who make readslists at page 4
I know you've played with Mastin before.
In post 101, Xayzeck wrote:Jingle are you pushing me or protecting me
What are you thinking of?
In post 107, Jordan_Downey wrote:I have seem manipulative aspects in their posts I personally not seeing much scum.
Details please.
In post 112, Xayzeck wrote:i'm quite liking the idea of mastin and tmct being scum together
What do you see as connecting them?
In post 115, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 108, TiphaineDeath wrote:Post 48 is a scum post, and deserves votes VOTE: TMCT
hmmmmm i don't get it?
Complaining about someone voting the person who you are voting. It's on like Donkey Kong.

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Post Post #180 (isolation #5) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:03 am

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Well, having read I actually agree with Dry-Fit that Saki's vote is bad. I mean there are actually things to talk about, and Saki's ignoring everything.
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Post Post #182 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:13 am

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In post 145, The Most Curious Thing wrote:
In post 121, Xayzeck wrote:inconsistently?

i've called you scum with mastin/necro all the way
:down:
In post 112, Xayzeck wrote:i don't think
mastin
is town

and i think jordan is town

i'm quite liking the idea of
mastin
and
tmct
being scum together
In post 117, Xayzeck wrote:people in my lynchpool right now: Necro,
TMCT
, Fear

They are all independently scum with their own reasons, but I can see Necro/
TMCT
being a thing pretty easily too.
:?:
I don't understand this at all.
In post 150, mastin2 wrote:In fact, his string of posting right there makes me pretty dang certain of it.)
<- puzzled.
In post 150, mastin2 wrote:But if I'm not misreading this.
If I'm not misunderstanding this.
The Talah post is weird.
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Post Post #183 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 02, 2014 11:15 am

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In post 181, The Most Curious Thing wrote:Needing to qualify his scumread with "but, it could just be OMGUS." It's tepid.
This is a fine point.
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Post Post #691 (isolation #8) » Wed Jun 04, 2014 11:08 am

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I don't think that I will have the chance to post until Friday.
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Post Post #788 (isolation #9) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 2:32 am

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In post 184, MafiaSSK wrote:
In post 147, Natirasha wrote:VOTE: Xayzeck

I never said I had a meta basis for my read on TMCT.

Also, mastin's scum.
And it is with this post that my vote switches again to
VOTE: Nat
Really?
In post 187, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 164, PeregrineV wrote:Caught up. Curious vote still makes me the happy.
this feels lazy
Scum scum scum!
In post 191, Xayzeck wrote:I'm wondering if he's protecting me or pushing me because he's done a bit of both and it's confusing
I meant which posts.
In post 191, Xayzeck wrote:tmct jumping on the wagon that necro started
That's not a buddy tell.
In post 191, Xayzeck wrote:hmmmm i don't get it? what's wrong about questioning other people's reads, regardless of whether I share them or not?
Well, it depends, but right then, not much, I mean I was mainly just looking for something to push you on, but you've done it twice now. If you're honestly scum reading someone, why would you complain about people voting them? It's weird.
In post 206, Antihero wrote:VOTE: Xay
YAY!
In post 208, talah wrote:Yeah I thought her assessment and immediate read change was weird too. Especially considering mastin was indeed scum in that game.
Seems like she's going for a "talah's trying to emulate his townmeta, therefore scum" approach rather than trying to address my concerns about her initial vector (which from my perspective was pretty much wait-and-see, ergo the raised eyebrow).
hmmm? You thought that Mastin/Antihero was scum because Antihero was trying to hard and not understanding Mastin's early reads.

Where were you getting this take on Mastin's read on you?
I don't see it.
In post 211, mastin2 wrote:In that game, I scumread you. You called me out on it. "Mastin would NEVER scumread me if she was town so early. Least of all considering how well we work together." You later went on in the dead QT to talk about how you think you can read me accurately in future games, and I even agreed it was distinctly possible.

In this game, you scumread me. And I'm calling you out on it--I don't think you would be scumreading me if you were town, least of all considering how well we work together and how you fancy yourself able to read me. Yet I'm town and you're pushing the idea I'm not.
I like this point.
In post 216, Spring Starflower wrote:VOTE: Necro

i have reasonable belief that mastin+AH is scum. both give individual scumvibes and add them together to give big scumread on the slot.

you guys should really have posted from the hydra
If they are scum, this is bussing.
But this could just be scum nonsense.

Saki
You use strikeouts pretty liberally, what are they meant to convey?
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Post Post #789 (isolation #10) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:05 am

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In post 226, Saki wrote:
In post 161, Natirasha wrote:I really don't know why you people think TMCT is scum.

Explain mastin.

I think you're rusing us.
also idk why nati would back off after asking this
What?
In post 229, Natirasha wrote:I didn't even backoff.
This seems right.
In post 299, Xayzeck wrote:jordan though i think is town
Why?
In post 305, TiphaineDeath wrote:I'm not sure whether that's really a scumtell
What make you think that it could be a scum tell?
In post 328, RachMarie wrote:a lot of postings by L (Mara) who hates being scum
Stop it. Mara is at least competent at scum.
In post 334, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:so there is now 4 small voting segments- JD, Xay, Necro (Mastin/Anti), and dry-fit. There is a good chance 1 of the power could be scum. Possible all not scum but it will be interesting to sort this out. Can anyone explain why voting some people with more than just "I don't like that one post" and "some random behavior is what scum do" and if you are doing either can you back up what you say. I have gotten tons of crap one way or another for "not explaining" things but see town read here, scum read there with such surety when right now all I am sure of is me. Thanks for any who oblige. (Countdown for someone calling this post scummy.) :wink:
Would lynch.

I'm pretty comfortable with Mastin based on how he's reading people.
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Post Post #790 (isolation #11) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 3:08 am

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Vote: Talah


Those following along will know why.
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Post Post #796 (isolation #12) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:06 am

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In post 794, Saki wrote:
In post 788, Zdenek wrote:Saki You use strikeouts pretty liberally, what are they meant to convey?
are you really this dense

um isn't it obvious?
Nope.

I can tell that it means that you thought something and don't think it anymore, but it tells me nothing about why you changed your mind.
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Post Post #797 (isolation #13) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:08 am

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For the record, and for myself, I've only read up to page 17, and some recent stuff, and will fill that gap in tomorrow, I hope.
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Post Post #798 (isolation #14) » Sat Jun 07, 2014 10:08 am

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I kind of want to lynch Saki for calling me stupid.
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Post Post #1097 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 11, 2014 8:31 pm

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Prod-dodge. My apologies.
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Post Post #1149 (isolation #16) » Thu Jun 12, 2014 7:09 pm

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Work is killing me this week.
Tonight, G-d-willing.
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Post Post #1223 (isolation #17) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:19 am

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In post 411, Sharpest-knife-on-tree wrote:I did not think I would get useful reactions from you and would rather pick at mastin.
Why do you think that Mastin doesn't have a strong scum game?
In post 417, Doublade wrote:there's a lot of ignoring-what-people-are-saying going on here
Oh? By who?
In post 453, Xayzeck wrote:i can see pere being scum
Why's that.

Up to 23

Don't want to lynch SKOT, Necro, TD, Aegor, Sunflower.
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Post Post #1224 (isolation #18) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 8:19 am

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In post 589, ZZZX wrote:2moro is my graduation but now I got 1-2 weeks of free time and I must say...

This current Metal Sonic isnt the usual obv town Sonic. Why you do this to me sonic?

Vote Spring flower



Its like

Every post I read from you feel too forced. Can you explain and convince me you are not scum?
hmmmm?

They seemed okay to me.
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Post Post #1290 (isolation #19) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:17 pm

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In post 633, ZZZX wrote:Calling out others to something is a strong scummtell/slip depending how you take it.
What do you mean?
In post 642, T S O wrote:Anyone not voting Xayzeck should be.
:)
In post 678, mastin2 wrote:Screw it.
I can't.
VOTE: talah.
I'm sorry, Anti, and anyone else who wants to work with me.
I could still get down with this. My experience with Mastin/Talah says Mastin's right here.

I'm not going to lie, I've stopped reading Mastin's and SKOT's posts, in the interest of actually reading the thread today.
In post 708, TiphaineDeath wrote::/ I don't like meta cases, and nothing Talah has actually done reads scummy to me.
It's pretty damned obvious.
In post 731, Aegor wrote:Also, the case on talah is dumb and I still want the anti/mastin hydra dead for many reasons.
Make me understand.
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Post Post #1291 (isolation #20) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:18 pm

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Well, I'm at page 30, and have 'til Wednesday.

I'll get there.
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Post Post #1292 (isolation #21) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:23 pm

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In post 791, talah wrote:Funny because I'm following along and I have no idea why you're scumreading me.
Because your take on Mastin makes no sense in the context of how I know you feel about him.
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Post Post #1293 (isolation #22) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:24 pm

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In post 799, T S O wrote:Xayzeck is borderline-confirmed.
What?
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Post Post #1294 (isolation #23) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:25 pm

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Oops, you meant confirmed scum. I'm okay with that.
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Post Post #1295 (isolation #24) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:43 pm

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In post 849, TiphaineDeath wrote:@Zdenek self meta tends to be scummy because it's someone yelling "I'm town."
Nah. It's lame, but not scummy, but I guess I don't care, cause of who you are suspicious of.
In post 856, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:though, why are you so mad, Zed? IDGI
I'm not mad. I don't think I was then either.

I know that I've been a bit frustrated with getting caught up and not having enough time to do it, but that has nothing to do with the game.

What makes you think that I was mad?
In post 871, Nachomamma8 wrote:I didn't catch up, I didn't need to catch up to see something so incredibly obvious.
You're a better player than a vote like that, hence me guessing you're just LOLtunneling because you're scum and you can yell loud.
I don't think this is legitimate reasoning.
In post 896, The Necromancers wrote:
In post 889, Bulbazak wrote:
Thor665 replaces Natirasha. Welcome his beard.
Oh, fuck me.

I can actually
read
Natirasha.

Now I'm stuck just assuming Thor drew scum for the rest of the game.
(He totally did.)
Do you think that Nati replaced out partly because he was scum or for other stuff?

I realized that MafiaSSK is probably town for a
secret
town-tell that I'll get into if I have to.

Page 41. I'll admit that I am skimming like mad at the moment. But I'll get in depth on some people before the deadline.
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Post Post #1296 (isolation #25) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:45 pm

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In post 1009, Aegor wrote:VOTE: MafiaSSK
In post 1010, T S O wrote:what a rotten vote.
In post 1011, Aegor wrote:VOTE: Xayzeck
Oh appeasement.
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Post Post #1298 (isolation #26) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:02 pm

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In post 1033, RachMarie wrote:Well since you are staying

Moving my vote to my top scumspect

VOTE: Pere
Why's that?
In post 1110, Aegor wrote:
Rach, ZZZX, talah, PV, Zdenek, Shiny, Fear
: please move votes onto someone with more than one vote.
Posturing.
In post 1111, Thor665 wrote:@Zdenek - are you trying to be intentionally unhelpful? What's your read on Jordan? He needs votes.
I don't have one. Nothing about him stands out to me.
In post 1226, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:
In post 1224, Zdenek wrote:
In post 589, ZZZX wrote:2moro is my graduation but now I got 1-2 weeks of free time and I must say...

This current Metal Sonic isnt the usual obv town Sonic. Why you do this to me sonic?

Vote Spring flower



Its like

Every post I read from you feel too forced. Can you explain and convince me you are not scum?
hmmmm?

They seemed okay to me.
Hey, You answer me
About Jordan or something else?
If it's Jordan, he's currently on the list of people I am going to take a closer look at.
In post 1234, T S O wrote:Zdenek and ZZZX, get on the Xayzeck wagon.
Maybe.
In post 1297, Xayzeck wrote:have you caught up?
I have officially skimmed the game.
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Post Post #1299 (isolation #27) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:05 pm

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People who seem okay to me:

Shiny Hydreigon
Doublade
PeregrineV
Spring Starflower
TiphaineDeath
Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Dry-fit
TSO
MafiaSSK
The Necromancers
RachMarie

The rest:

Saki
ZZZX
The Most Curious Thing
Nachomamma8
Thor665
Jon_h61
Xayzeck
Fear
Jordan_Downey
Aegor

I wish my "the rest list" was shorter. Anyway, they'll be the first ones I try to sort.
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Post Post #1301 (isolation #28) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:11 pm

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In post 1300, Xayzeck wrote:skimmed is fine

do you have a new place for your vote?
I still want to lynch Talah-Jon.
That one seems pretty straightforward to me.
I'll get down to reading the people on the bottoms of leading wagons tomorrow.
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Post Post #1303 (isolation #29) » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:41 pm

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Aegor stands out.
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Post Post #1525 (isolation #30) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:26 am

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In post 1317, jon_h61 wrote:I'll have to reread Jordan, I don't feel like voting either Aegor or Zayzec at this time. If I could, I'd be voting Rach right now. It's gut, but it says she's scum this time. You know that kind of a read that has alarms going off in your head. This is Rach as scum.

Not really liking Mastin half of Necro, mostly (but not all) for his reasoning for his push on Talah.

Not sure I like TSO, at least something he was pushing earlier, I was disagreeing with.

As long as Thor doesn't go off the farm, he'll be Town, and I'll give his reads a little more credence.

@ Jordan Give me a synopsis on why you shouldn't be Today's lynch?
Wow, too many people. Let's get the lynches underway.
Could you make some (more, I guess) of this into something concrete please?
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Post Post #1526 (isolation #31) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:31 am

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In post 1363, Xayzeck wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dry-fit

Can't be scum with a claim like that methinks
Xayzy is probably scum telling us that Jordan is town.
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Post Post #1527 (isolation #32) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:32 am

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In post 1367, RachMarie wrote:Dry fits' responses to the claim by Jordan, however reeks of scumminess.
hmmmm?
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Post Post #1528 (isolation #33) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:35 am

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Why in God's name are Xayzek and TSO arguing about Jordan being clear.
This just looks like BS started by Xayzek.
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Post Post #1529 (isolation #34) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:40 am

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In post 1443, Titus wrote:I've been reading backwards
Have you ever done this before?
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Post Post #1532 (isolation #35) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:47 am

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In post 1530, Titus wrote:
In post 1529, Zdenek wrote:
In post 1443, Titus wrote:I've been reading backwards
Have you ever done this before?
Frequently. I read the ISOs of the major wagons, ask for the cases (to determine social groupings) and fill in the rest as needed.
Can I see an example?
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Post Post #1533 (isolation #36) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:47 am

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In post 1488, Shiny Hydreigon wrote:VOTE: Mala

I feel completely ignored
Hey! Me too.

Why did you think I was mad?
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Post Post #1536 (isolation #37) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:52 am

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Can't you just tell me the name of one?
Why are you being difficult?
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Post Post #1539 (isolation #38) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:54 am

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In post 1512, PeregrineV wrote:
In post 1506, Malakittens wrote:Okay, I'll stop being coy. The line after my name of my role the last word is pluriazed, which makes it very, very likely multiball.
Looks like boiler-plate text to me.

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Dry-fit, do you disagree?
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Post Post #1540 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:55 am

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In post 1515, The Necromancers wrote:
In post 1514, PeregrineV wrote:Not feeling the Aegor or Dry-fit hate at the moment. No love either, so will lynch to avoid wasted day, but let's try a flashwagon on a replacement.

Vote: Jon_h61
vote titus with me?

or, get some more people and i'll vote jon with you
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Post Post #1541 (isolation #40) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:56 am

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In post 1517, jon_h61 wrote:Since it's pretty straightforward, it should be easily explained so everyone will understand. Please enlighten everyone as to how you know I received a scum PM.
I hacked your account.
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Post Post #1543 (isolation #41) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:59 am

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In post 1538, Titus wrote:Why does it matter how I catch up?
Reading backwards sounds ineffectual, so I wonder why anyone would do it, and you've done it more than once, so I'm curious to see if it worked well for you.
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Post Post #1547 (isolation #42) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:02 am

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I'd still love it if you linked a game.
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Post Post #1597 (isolation #43) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:34 pm

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In post 1550, jon_h61 wrote: @ Zednek How does the order Titus reads the pages in have anything to do with her alignment? This is a scummy attack!
If someone is doing something I think is ridiculous, I'm going to ask why.
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Post Post #1598 (isolation #44) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:36 pm

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In post 1551, jon_h61 wrote:
In post 1525, Zdenek wrote:Could you make some (more, I guess) of this into something concrete please?
Probably not, ask something in particular and I'll give my opinion, even if it's weak.
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Post Post #1599 (isolation #45) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:38 pm

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In post 1553, jon_h61 wrote:
In post 1530, Titus wrote:
In post 1529, Zdenek wrote:
In post 1443, Titus wrote:I've been reading backwards
Have you ever done this before?
Frequently. I read the ISOs of the major wagons, ask for the cases (to determine social groupings) and fill in the rest as needed.
That sounds pretty normal for replacing into a game. I don't like this push by Zed.

@ Zed What's scummy about this? Is there only one way for Town to read the thread?
Notice that second thing is not the same as reading backwards.
It's not even a push. You are so full of shit.
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Post Post #1600 (isolation #46) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 7:44 pm

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Vote: Aegor
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Post Post #1847 (isolation #47) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:45 pm

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Dodge. Tonight.
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Post Post #1892 (isolation #48) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 12:35 pm

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My apologies, but I have to replace out.
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