Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Malakittens]

Step 1: read role PM.
Thought 1: Wonderful a multiball game. Kill me now.

Step 2: read the thread
Thoughts:

... I have this urge. This URGE to want to lynch the Mastin slot. (More directly for posts 81, 86, and 87 in particular.

xayz is town for 101 . Reason: posts reads different than two recent completed scum newbie games of his.

:shockedface: MSSK is doing something. (sorry bro, don't take that as an insult<3).

Oh ZZZX spam like that again and face death.

SKOT can be town for now. (gut feeling).

Thinkin' I like Talah town. (gut likes talah town).

Fuck this.

VOTE: Mastin a million times over.

Gut isn't likin' doublade.

Rach is maybe town. Nati is likely town.

Maybe, maybe a S V S between the discussion between Mastin and SKOT.

PereV maybe scum [???] (Gut isn't liking him. )

I'm liking Anti's posts, but not Mastin. This should be great trying to get a clear read on this hydra. I want to actually go w/ my Mastin read as I played with her more.

Fear is maybe scum. Not sure if it's the lack of posts I'm seeing or the weird feel I'm getting from the vote in 390 .

Yep, Fear = scum.

But Xayzeck-Fear-SKOT, I'd bet there are at least two scum in those three, and one of them is almost definitely Xayzeck. Leaning more in favor of Fear as his partner right now, SKOT might just be as he claims not really running on the same wavelength as the rest of us.

I disagre. If there's scum between the three of them it's likely to be {Fear, SKOT, Xayz}.

I'm not getting the town feel from the MS/Sakura slot.

Aaaaaalthough: MS (Springflower) makes the point about the wagon in regards to the Mastin/Anti hydra. The speed and lack of a possible counter does indicative towards town rather than scum. (post 531 ).

Aaaaaaaand 643 just gave me Mastin-town feels. Good job 'sis!

I can't anymore. My eyes are glossing over SKOT's posts. I need to reread his posts in the morning or after work or something. (page 27 - my own notes)

Okay, I think I'm going to stop on page 30. That's enough for me and I'll get through the other 28 pages before or after work tomorrow.
Obv, I'm not doing a full read lists until I'm finished reading. Also a lot of these reads are in gut.

UNVOTE: Mastin.*

[Malakittens]

Just reading current posts on this page for a bit.

I skipped to Jordan's ISO to talk with Titus and Anti about current posts.

Claim: Polarity locker. We can target a player at the beginning of the night and they will not be able to change their polarity. I'm not sure how utility that is, but it specifically notes that it will not be blocked by polarity, and is a 'neutral shot.'

It is positive utility to have the town at a neutral polarity, or as close to a neutral alignment as possible. This gives us extra information we can use when solving for alignment. To this end, I suggest no one switch their alignment tonight.

I'm not sure how I feel about this post.

The mod clarified that the NK can be blocked by polarity, which implies to me that 1. The scum team is larger than it would normally be. 2. This game is multiball. 3. There are multiple killing roles.

In order to accurately get knowledge from the polarity mechanic, we need to get a claim from each lynch candidate at L-1 before the hammer.

I actually got the notion that it was mulitball from reading the first line under my role name.

VOTE: Jordan.

@Anti:

How was my catch up post town?

I think I agree w/ Anti's posts 1445/1446. It actually makes sense for a polarity locker to be somewhat of a scum role.

[Malakittens]

I could have done without that post.
You, apparently, could have basically done without that read.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the current wagons, and would like to see a vote in support of one, or an amazingly focused and lod push on a third option.

Obv, i'm not caught up with the reading. my mind kinda needed a break as I was glossing over SKOT's posts. I unvoted because I had a scum read on Mastin at the start of the game, but as I was reading through it got diminished.

[Malakittens]

How was my catch up post town?

as much as thor would like to pooh-pooh it, the stream-of-consciousness "post-as-you-read" is pretty hard to fake as scum, and your post had a natural feel to it.

I do it as either alignment, tbf, especially when replacing in.

How was my catch up post town?

as much as thor would like to pooh-pooh it, the stream-of-consciousness "post-as-you-read" is pretty hard to fake as scum, and your post had a natural feel to it.

That's my bread and butter as scum. Consider it double pooh poohed.

You aren't me. Don't try and pull your meta on me~

(I know I had a town-read from Nati's posts, but Thor just actually solidified that town read more.)

[Malakittens]

Anti come back to the Jordan wagon. We can breathe life back into once again.

[Malakittens]

Why are you saying 'anti-town' rather than 'scum'?

[Malakittens]

I think I want Titus dead too.

[Malakittens]

No, I'm voting for Jordan.

[Malakittens]

Your vote was already on me to begin with. It's called reading my role PM.

Also why do I feel like you rolled scum here.

[Malakittens]

Okay, I'll stop being coy. The line after my name of my role the last word is pluriazed, which makes it very, very likely multiball.

[Malakittens]

I still want Jordan dead for ~reasons~.

[Malakittens]

Of course there are scum on the dryfit wagon, aegor and Xay are both there, you people really need to keep up better .

Xayz might not be scum.

[Malakittens]

Don't feel you have to justify that or anything.

Right now it's the difference between his Behavior in two recent completed newbies games and here it's different. However once I'm finished reading ill take the three ISO's side by side and see what I think.

[Malakittens]

Ugh.

VOTE: Aegor [\v]

Nope, not yet Mara soon.~

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Aegor

[Malakittens]

Didn't change, but that's for ~reasons~.

Anyways. Still not fully caught up, but will be soonish.

Not sure how I feel about that T S O kill.

[Malakittens]

Hmmmm

[Malakittens]

Ugh, Mastin's back to making me want to lynch her.

Thor, you are wrong about me.

I can see Titus scum because I was thinking Fear-scum.

I'm not sure how to think about Xay's reaction to the NK. I have seen both one town game of his and one scum game and he hasn't reacted in that manner. Probably need to do a full meta dive on him when home. And need to finish reading the game too~.

Still kinda want a Jordan lynch.

[Malakittens]

To be fair; I think we have a town-Thor, just a very *shaky* town-Thor.

[Malakittens]

@Mastin:

Can we talk a bit about Spring Starflower and PereV?

[Malakittens]

In post 1798, Malakittens wrote:
To be fair; I think we have a town-Thor, just a very *shaky* town-Thor.

What does that even mean? I'm not even being belligerent here, I've just never heard that term applied to anyone, and you just got Mastin to agree with it, so...whut?

To be fair I just saw this question. I keep refreshing the page while catching up.

It means I think you are town, but shaky is referring to your reads. I think you are misguided, but hope you can see the light.

In other news: Xay is town, town town.~

[Malakittens]

Nacho's activity is bugging me too.

SKOT not so much town anymore.

I'm not sure why 887 bothers me so much, but it does.

Rach's set of posts on page 38 makes me lean kinda town on her.

Lmao, why does SSK's 1049 give me town vibes. I'm just so used to him sheeping or lurking so him actually posting something like this makes me feel like he COULD be town.

Uh, PereV the reason for posts 1081 1083 1084 was what?

Doublade *might* be town.

SOMEONE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY SPRING STARFLOWER IS FUCKING TOWN.

Is anyone decent at reading Zden? 'Cuz if you are I'll sheep you. I want to scum read him based off the avvie (Red Fox) because I *think* a red fox just killed one of my precious outside cats (yes, she was a fav of mine), but then that's a really shit reason to read him as scum.

Someone vig Saki and TIP, tia.

I still want to lynch based on the claim.

K, I'm caught up.

I want the following dead, in no order, {Jordan, Titus, Spring Starflower, Saki, Tip}
To an extent I want the following dead, in no order, { SkoT, Nacho, Zden}
Will not touch the following as of yet {Thor, Necro, Xay}

Rest are kinda ehhhhhh, nulls or nulls leaning something.

VOTE: Titus

Hey, Jon, did you know Talah claimed polarity tracker?

[Malakittens]

Eh, was a joke, wanted to see how'd react.

[Malakittens]

Abousetly nothing I think. It's not one I have ever seen before. (Trying to take a trick from
The DgB/Kuribo book) >_<

[Malakittens]

<.<

[Malakittens]

VOTE: TITUS million times over.

VOTE: Jon

I support either of these wagons.~

[Malakittens]

I think Malakittens received a scum Role this game. (Slinks off into the corner to hide)

I'm borrowing a page of Saki's playbook today.

Nah, I recieved a town PM, sorry bro that you got a scum one~

Titus is likely scum and I'm probably thinking she's your partner.

Really, you or her are the only two lynches I'm accepting this day.

VOTE: Titus

[Malakittens]

VOTE: mala

Sorry I hurt your feelings for not reaching out to you, but damn if you really think I'm scum you'll need to explain.


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Thor I really don't see wagoning me is going to accomplish anything. If anything it's in fact a lazy place to hold your vote.

[Malakittens]

If anything it's in fact a lazy place to hold your vote.

Not if he thinks you're scum, like I do.

Ill go check into this for sure when I hit a computer, but I'm pretty sure you started to scum read me after I started to do the same to you first. You're just omgusing the hell out of me, but good try.

[Malakittens]

Yeah that's the thing. I really don't see you convincing me that you're town. I didn't like your pred's posts.

[Malakittens]

You made two posts, one that looks like a scum slip and I have tied that into connection w/ Jon scum and the second was the way you phrased something in a post after you replaced in.

So it's not that I'm scum reading you withou taking into acc your current posts. I just don't see you being of a town nature.

[Malakittens]

If anything it's in fact a lazy place to hold your vote.

Not if he thinks you're scum, like I do.

Ill go check into this for sure when I hit a computer, but I'm pretty sure you started to scum read me after I started to do the same to you first. You're just omgusing the hell out of me, but good try.

Actually I apologize; I'm half wrong. You are probably scum reading me because of my reaction test attempting to catch you in a lie and not exactly 'omgusing'.

[Malakittens]

Thor I really don't see wagoning me is going to accomplish anything. If anything it's in fact a lazy place to hold your vote.

It just got Shiny to vote you.
Also I've had multiple people addressing my choice - a choice I started out of whole cloth. If I wanted to be "lazy" (which is silly, because that is never a type of lazy I do as either alignment) I could have picked someone else or, simply hopped off with a 'lulz - reaction!' style comment as soon as I got any blowback. Instead I'm standing here trying to make it happen. So at least accuse me of working hard for a mislynch or being silly town who is fighting a battle not worth fighting. There are infinite lazy lynches available as compared to you at this point in the game.

I actually think you're tied for the biggest wagon as of now.
Do you really not see *anything* being accomplished here?

Well, there's a larger wagon than both Dry-fit and I and that is MOST likely to flip scum.

So, yeah, there's nothing on my wagon that will be accomplished.

Yeah that's the thing. I really don't see you convincing me that you're town. I didn't like your pred's posts.

You are talking about titus here right?

Yes.

I feel like mala's semi-claim was pretty town. Not a fan of that wagon.

Thor I really don't see wagoning me is going to accomplish anything.

This quote does seem kind of weird though. I mean, in what situation would you think a wagon on yourself

would

accomplish anything?

What happened to the jon wagon? It was pretty decent.

Apparently, it took a backseat to Titus. When Titus flips scum then Jon dies. Then it's followed by Spring Flower.

[Malakittens]

Also, what semi-claim?

[Malakittens]

ZZx has 0 votes, zzx is voting spring starflower, star flower says LYNCH THIS! with no reasoning and no vote.

Yeah no.

VOTE: Spring Starflower

titus scum slipped, simple as that.

[Malakittens]

ZZx has 0 votes, zzx is voting spring starflower, star flower says LYNCH THIS! with no reasoning and no vote.

Yeah no.

VOTE: Spring Starflower

titus scum slipped, simple as that.

Meh, leave her alive and see who she defends then, wanna sheep me?

Dude man, if Titus is scum then it basically confirms Jon as scum in my eyes.

I rather not keep scum alive when obv we should lynch them so.

your answer from me is no.

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preedit:

Actually, I think we played in a few games and I don't believe I called you scum when you weren't scum. Fire and Ice -- you were scum.

Oh, because I was trying, but your wording is some of your posts are funky, so yes right now I believe you are totally scum. The way you are acting you are solidifying that read as of right now.

So enlighten me where I called you scum and I was wrong in that said game?

Because, I do believe Thor's vote is lazy. However, I do believe we have a town-thor.

[Malakittens]

Locking polarities would function more like a rolestopper then I guess. It's much better to use a rolestop and have an important town player live. To me, it's more effective than a doctor, particularly if we have a large imbalance in the shifts.

exactly... rolestopper isn't inherently a "town" or "scum" role, it could be either.

you're proving my point for me....

Whatever, I'm done with the rolespec right now. I see the role as probably being town. I don't like the sudden shift of votes from Jordan to Dry-fit though. Most every player who jumped off immediately jumped to Dryfit. That cannot be a coincidence.

ya' think so?

...so what does that tell you about jordan's alignment?
how about aegor's flashwagon and his alignment?

That's my bread and butter as scum. Consider it double pooh poohed.

oh boy, self meta

you're really pulling out all the stops with this one

Ignoring smartass comments as I don't care to ragebait you yet.

The sudden swap from Jordan to Dryfit indicates at least one of the jumpers is scum. Who that is depends on the alignment of Jordan and Dryfit. I don't see Dryfit being scum just due to the sheer speed and swap.

Aegor's flashwagon, judging from his ISO, is probably because he's anti-town. I don't have as many problems with that wagon.

>are you fucking kidding? this has nothing to do with "lurking" and mastin has been over and over and over why the talah slot is scum this ENTIRE time.

Yes, you have. Go ahead, this slot is just helping scum make a smokescreen anyway. Plus I think Necro is afraid of my PR helping Town too much if it made it to the latter part of the game. Whether his fear comes from Town fear or scum fear, I honestly don't know. He

has gone out of his way

to nullify this slot. I'll accept defeat, just give me a blindfold and a last cigarette, please.

Town be aware of aggressive scum, they're out to kill you.

Reads haven't changed from last time.

Necro The playground bullie
Thor The hammer
Rach Sweet little Rach (She married into the Mafia)
And a couple of others I'm too lazy to look up right now.


I have just been annihilated by the mighty Necromancers!!! RUN!!! Before they get you!


,

Dude edit your god damn posts. You aren't helping us any.

[Malakittens]

EAT. ROPE. NOA.

[Malakittens]

Lol, sorry, but not sorry.

I double post sometimes when the weather is crappy.

[Malakittens]

IN FIRE AND ICE YOU WERE SCUM AND YOU SHOT US RIGHT BEFORE LYLO.

[Malakittens]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=38068

[Malakittens]

Why is Titus tell Jon to edit his posts because it's not helping "us". 'US' = key word I focused on that quote.

[Malakittens]

My theory has nothing do with with day chat. It's her wording. |:

[Malakittens]

Fine, ignore the fucking slip, but I'm sure that Titus is scum based on behavior alone.

I'll just sit here and tunnel. Then get nightkilled and if she survives to endgame, imma be reallly pissed.

[Malakittens]

Yeah, I get where you're coming from, I wanted to do that with xay and realized I had no backing so I've kinda given that up for now.

Honestly though mala how is spring not scum after that post?

Dude. read my posts.

I didn't say Spring wasn't scum. I'm saying Spring IS scum, but Titus needs death/rope first.

#catpriorities.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: ZZZX

NO
NO
NO
NO
VOTE TITUS

[Malakittens]

okay, i'll put you out of your misery

Dark Dayvig: titus

goodbye~

[Malakittens]

Nah, cause I'm dark, but unless titus is dark polarity then it will go through, but if she's light it's gonna miss.

[Malakittens]

How does posting speed up the vote count?

^

[Malakittens]

Well I'm dark locked if it helps you any.

At least I won't have to post on my vacation if it's a real vig.

looks like youre dead, any last words then?

[Malakittens]

Hmmmm.

why null read for me?

(still dont see jon town)

[Malakittens]

Nah, she's alive because of the following:

1. I don't have a real day vig kill :[

2. ZZZX is right that you need to have an opp. polarity for any action to go through.

So both titus / I can't do anything to each other while we are both dark.

Either way, titus' reaction felt "meh" to me. I was oh :readslist: but then it was 'meh'

[Malakittens]

mod: I'm going V/LA for two days. Need to clear my mind a bit for RL things.

[Malakittens]

Don't let them tell you that I don't make mistakes. Spring Starflower should not be getting replaced. MS, why didn't you call me on that?

Because he's scum.^

[Malakittens]

Lynch Titus first, then Jon, but yeah I think they are both probably scum.

The bad thing w/ Rach is she lurks either alignment, but she normally does townier things as town and I haven't thought about ISO'ing her, but I feel like if ZZZX is indeed mafia then Rach could

maybe

be bussing.

[Malakittens]

hmmm, tip might be town afterall

[Malakittens]

I WHOLEHEARTEDLY AGREE.

[Malakittens]

yeah i know. they are probably policy bussing

Not a town thought.

zx super tunnel on me and refusal to scumhunt is major throw-off from his usual play so im policy lynching him.

Blatantly false, since ZX spent a considerable amount of time trying to get a read on you AND has explained his reasoning for you AND has been scumhunting everyone in his own unique way.

Sonic's policy:
Best case scenario: Flip scum. Worst case scenario: flip anti-town VT.

And I've seen your treatment of ZX. In a twist of irony, this is not a town-you's treatment of him. You know he is not as anti-town as he seems.

...Also, I don't recall ZX roleclaiming.

I really don't care about your baseless claims in this game because neither my or my partner is engaged, so

No, just no.

He has not been scumhunting at all. He parked vote on me for entirety of yesterday and today. Don't be lame.

___

Titus, don't you dare instigate. I've rarely seen you AtE and in fact I want you flipped myself.

P-edit: I can make assumptions like you do, mastin. If he flips town PR I'll eat my hat.

Actually I need to dig up something from an old hydra chat. I have a tell on titus, but i can't remember exactly what it is off the top of my head

Makes sense w/ the point you are making in teh bold though.

[Malakittens]

So in other news; Xayz is falling back into that habit again :watches:

[Malakittens]

Both jon and Titus are Ate'ing Skoat

[Malakittens]

1. Shiny Hydreigon
3. Saki

Are these slots town? 'cause if they aren't then I'm going to policy night action them but if they are town then I'll leave em alone.

Mara might be.

Saki, idk, but regardless him dying wouldn't be too bad for the gamestate anyways.

[Malakittens]

Mala if you are here we would like to talk about this game with you as you walk us through.

Sorry I missed this, haven't been giving my full attention here.

[Malakittens]

VOTE: Eddie

Dun like.

[Malakittens]

Or Eddie smells like scum from things he has said.

I'm pretty VLA and I made this clear to all mods before I replaced into some games.

Since I don't know how long until my next posts I'm going to:

VOTE: Spring

it's been stated in posts that i dislike MS posts. Sakura has posted nothing super specatale and it doesnt feel like town-MS.

Also DryFit -- I missed your question to be brutally fair. I'll go back and ISO you after this post.

[Malakittens]

hmmm, tip might be town afterall

TD has been town all game. What have you been reading?

I admit I have a difficult time seeing ZZX's readslist stuff coming from town.

Every ime I read one of jon's posts it makes me angry and makes me want to lynch him.

TD's earlier posts I didn't like mainly in Day 1. As day progressed he has substantially started to get better.

(Also you never did ask anything about Saki...)

[Malakittens]

[retract next statement]

VOTE: Titus

[Malakittens]

Eddie is scum. Titus is scum. Xayz might be scum.

Can we fucking lynch one of the above?^

[Malakittens]

Eddie is scum.

This popped into my head today when he posted. Why are you thinking this?

It was something he posted last day that made me think he's scum. Just something about the tone of his posts I'm not seeing him as town. It's really gut mainly, but I just really don't see him being town.

[Malakittens]

Spring, who cleared you as conf town?

himself

...

Vote Spring

Unless someone clears them via cop or some other means, self conf town is NOT conf town.

This post. Over reaction. Plus little things.

Also ican see Zzzx being scum, but that's working off a theory from my reaction test mainly rather than me thinking he's scum scum.

[Malakittens]

I changed polarites, but not of free will.

[Malakittens]

Hmmm.

[Malakittens]

I changed polarites, but not of free will.

I changed Polarity, but not by choosing the Polarity. Someone else made that choice.

Is this the same or only appearing the same?

What I was thinking too.

Jon talk to me more about the following^

Mine.

@ Mala and Peregrine My Polarity is affected by someone else's decisions. But the bad news is, I screwed up. I went back and checked the PMs. I didn't change. I can't explain the screw up, I don't know why I thought I was the other Polarity. The worst part is, I haven't changed Polarities since the start. A brain fart moment.

@ Mala If we're the same Role, then there's less chance of you being scum, but in "Imaginary Fights", yessire and I had the same named Role, but yessire's was a scum Role. So that alone doesn't let you off the hook. A question for you, have you voluntarily changed your Polarity this game?

I can change mine if I wish, but other factors can cause my polarity to shift at will that is not under my control. This game I have not changed my polarity myself.

Hmm, if you're town and we have the same role wouldn't that likely make me closer to being more scum than town? Especially if you're bringing up old mod meta:

[Malakittens]

Yeah PN made me think town originally but it has gone away.

Micro 333 Rach = which Rach?

[Malakittens]

Thor is town. The Thor vs nerco is dumb and should stop. Lynch scum-Titus pls

[Malakittens]

RACH

VOTE

TITUS

WITH

ME

PLS

[Malakittens]

@Mala - I don't think you understand what the Necro thing is about if you're asking it to stop. I'm not scumhunting them - if that helps clarify. I also still fail to see Titusscum, give me a short and sweet version? Also, your take on ZZZX would be nice. You haven't even mentioned it I feel. What's up with that?

.

I'm lazy and still haven't decided to reread what I skimmed on vacation. Good chance I won't unless I need to ISO a player.

Little weird gut stuff on her really.
We have just finished a game where she called me out for defending myself after getting wagoned/attacked. She's doing the same friking thing here last day. All she did was focus on the shit wagon that grew on her. Along with a tell that Mastin said (the whole anti-town thing) I skimmed some of her recent town/scum games and that tell is reliable.

Idk, I was leaning scum on something that was done earlier this day along with rereading something, but I want titus dead. I'll probably end up being okay with a {titus/xay/zzx} lynch though.

@Mala - I don't think you understand what the Necro thing is about if you're asking it to stop. I'm not scumhunting them - if that helps clarify. I also still fail to see Titusscum, give me a short and sweet version? Also, your take on ZZZX would be nice. You haven't even mentioned it I feel. What's up with that?

.

Easy version... scum don't want to hunt so they just park on me. There is no case on me, at all.

Totes. that's exactly what I'm

doing

. You

got me

.

#voteparkontitus
#titusscum

[Malakittens]

IT'S PRETTY FUCKING OBV THAT TITUS IS SCUM

ITS SO HARD TO GET A LYNCH ON HER. ITS NOT BECAUSE SHES #OMFGSOOBVTOWN. HER PRED SUCKED BALLS. THE SLOT IS SCUM.

._.

/capslockrageoff.

@PREDIT:

NO
BERT
NO
YOU LITTLE SCUMFUCK.

VOTE TITUS

[Malakittens]

also I can see PN as scum too, but yeah.~

[Malakittens]

that post was Gaiden

but even if I did listen to you, I don't like to after Wicked lol. but Gaiden will gladly vote Titus - I'll ask him about it

i'm town here, I promise.

titus is scum. cross mah heart and hope to die~

[Malakittens]

let's vote mala for the lolz.

VOTE: malakittens

#yolo

You know what happens when I'm crossed. i lynch trollers. (well really tammy lynches trolls.)

[Malakittens]

Imma pull a saki back after work

[Malakittens]

Ooh a saki-town~

[Malakittens]

Still want Titus dead.

VOTE: zzzx

[Malakittens]

I don't see how a hydra gets to go full VLA when one head is posting elsewhere