Ikaruga Mafia (Game Over!)

[Saki]

VOTE: Sakki

[Saki]

So many haters in this game.

[Saki]

VOTE: Saki

HATERR

[Saki]

VOTE: sharpest-knife-on-tree

[Saki]

Post 48 is a scum post, and deserves votes VOTE: TMCT

oh, please, please tell me what is scummy about post 48. TIA

Vote: TiphaineDeath

VOTE: sharpest-knife-on-tree

tbf this was somewhat of a serious vote based on the post above
but this

Vote: Saki.

That naked vote on sharpest knife is the scummiest thing in the game so far. Naked votes come more often from scum in my experience and Saki picked a bad target.

I also have suspicion of Xayzeck and Jordan. Xay I just can't really see where he's coming from in his posts. Jordan is gut but somehow his posts just don't read genuine. No one looks particularly towny but I guess Sharpest knife and Necro seem towny due to interactions with other players.

Also kind of worried PV's questioning is kind of rolefishy.

Those are my observations after a half-assed quick readthrough.

needs rope
what exactly didn't imply that i was voting sharpest knife off his last post, my vote immediately following his?
why exactly is sharpest knife a 'bad target' for a naked vote?
"naked votes come from scum more than town" psh

VOTE: dry-fit

if you have a problem with people naked voting you probably don't want to play with me ever

zzzx, xayzeck, sakurasonic, and doublade are gut scumreads

nati is probs scum

balancing the idea of whether or not i should try to break my post count in fe:a by day 2

[Saki]

where is tso?

nacho and rach also have yet to post...

I particularly don't like this either

idk atm about antihero and Xayzeck
i'm thinking it might be tvs with xay town but could easily be tvt

[Saki]

forgot to add Aegor to gut scumread pile

[Saki]

Hey saki, what was that vote on sharpest about? You still RVSin or was there supposed to be something there?

idk what to make of this too
like was it not obvious that i was voting sharpest for the post that followed immediately before my vote

[Saki]

I really don't know why you people think TMCT is scum.

Explain mastin.

I think you're rusing us.

also idk why nati would back off after asking this

[Saki]

all of you need to shut the hell up

[Saki]

I have way more of a life now than I did back then when I was playing FE:A

[Saki]

Saki You use strikeouts pretty liberally, what are they meant to convey?

are you really this dense

um isn't it obvious?

[Saki]

you know what

fuck you TSO

VOTE: TSO

TSO isn't even worth a vote btw

[Saki]

when did i become doublade instead of marquis you dehumanizing scum

[marquis]

*pssst*

vote hiim

now back to playing league

[Saki]

i was prodded
i'm curious as to why people are calling me town

[Saki]

this game got so large so fast
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Jordan

[Saki]

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dry-fit

[Saki]

was that a ninja deadline extension or am i looking at the wrong vc

[Saki]

i see you posting around the site saki...

sowwy

[Saki]

UNVOTE: UNVOTE:
VOTE: Titus
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Dry-Fit

[Saki]

epic tags
:3

[Saki]

checking in to see whether or not dryfit wagon has taken off
it hasn't yet
wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee back to the driver's seat

[Saki]

-Could have been a PR.

TSO pretty much claimed locked VT.

Vote: Saki.

VOTE: Dry-fit

since this wagon didn't actually end with a lynch yesterday

[Saki]

pdodge

I think whoeer wanted to kill TSO didn't realize he basically claied locked vt. And you're apparently in that group. I'd wager Saki is in that group as well.

refer to 1927, kindly linked to you by yours truly.

[Saki]

.

[Saki]

*dances*

[Saki]

yaa

[Saki]

this is me declaring that I may or may not hammer the first wagon to get to l-1

[Saki]

VOTE: Dry-fit

[Saki]

hihi

[Saki]

must...resist...urge...to call out everyone who pushed me only when convenient
I'll do that later

[Saki]

I'm very confused as to why no one is paying Dry-fit any attention, but then again I've lived this far

[Saki]

Titus pushing a one-woman wagon is something I attribute to town titus then again town titus doesn't "survival vote" a scumread

[Saki]

Hi saki, looks like when you get votes you post whole sentences, maybe if we got you to L-1 you'd post content? What do you think?

Hi TipaineDeath, looks like you don't know how to read.
Soooooo "back from V/LA" means "posting content under pressure," huh.

Saki is alive.

But his old av. was kewler

Shoo.

Unvote. Vote: Saki.

This is happening.

Personal vendetta against me noted. What did I do to cause it?
'cause I wanna rub it in your face some more

[Saki]

btw to whoever had the question earlier "Deflector" = "Reflects like-polarity actions instead of absorbing them" afaik

[Saki]

You were VLA this whole game?

um yes?

[Saki]

Well that's actually fucking awesome, because one of two things is true.

A) Saki is lying, scum, and must die.
B) Saki is telling the truth, and the people on his wagon are one of three things.

A)Frustrated
B)Stupid
C)Opportunistic Scum

If Saki's telling the truth on this one I'd bet at least two and maybe three of the people on Saki right now are scum. Titus/ZZX is likely, with maybe a third, though that seems too good to be true.

must...resist...urge...to call out everyone who pushed me only when convenient
I'll do that later

we think alike

[Saki]

Why not sub out?

Just not my thing

[Saki]

If Saki's telling the truth on this one

I'd bet at least two and maybe three of the people on Saki right now are scum

. Titus/ZZX is likely, with maybe a third, though that seems too good to be true.

This is the main reason I haven't placed a vote on Saki. Aside from the fact his play is exactly the same as his Town game the last time I played with him. Saki's still just a coin toss for me. I'm scum reading Rach, ZZZX, Dry Fit, and Malakittens (who mentioned voting Saki). It makes me think the wagon is poison, no matter Saki's play.

IF

Saki were to flip scum, then I'd have to readjust reads, but I'll cross that bridge when I get to it.

On Titus' wagon I'm uncertain on SKOT, and PN. If it comes down to it, this is where I probably would vote out of sheer dislike for the content of the Saki wagon.

I'd rather others would come back to the ZZZX wagon. I think it has the better chance of actually flipping scum.

"wagon is poison"
laugh of my day

[Saki]

Tip's 180 on me, although I'm thankful for it, feels forced, somewhat
maybe I'm just paranoid

[Saki]

Saki clearly didn't have the time for this. To stay on when you don't have time helps scum and not town. So yeah, I'll scumread her for not keeping up with committments and not replacing out. I don't know what, but something DID happen IRL.

That's not a "strategic" replace out. Using a replaceout to confirm alignment is strategic. Anything else is fair game. Sakura got in trouble for using it to confirm alignment but it's common for people to say you don't have the time sub out.

It's been three game days.

Now that I've actually modded a game on top of my experience with replacements in my first newbie where everyone excluding me was replaced even once (yes, even the mod), I have a personal dislike of replacing out just for the amount of confusion and annoyance it causes.

Besides, I think me lurking the entire game helped me survive a bit. I'd probably be vi lynchbait and hung by now if I wasn't lurking

Combine that with a lack of real content now that he's back, and I'm more ok with this than Titus.

OKAY IM SORRY I CAN'T NOLIFE POST LIKE I DID BACK WHEN I PLAYED IN FE:A

P-edit: *shrug* now that I think about it, yeah
now I think he's doing it to defuse my wagon to pile votes onto Titus but idk how that's going to work out

[Saki]

He's placed useless votes on players the whole game. Even if you're not very active you can mke it so your vote makes a difference instead of wasting it on a vote on someone like me.

Any vote on you isn't an useless vote

bitterness aside, if you define "useless vote" as anything that isn't on a major wagon then you need to rethink that definition

[Saki]

And tbh what I really don't get about this game atm is that from like 4 days before deadline people were mentioning deadline lynch compromises/deadline mislynches and honestly there's still a day to DL
and I do think that everyone in this game will be online to post or to lurk sometime between now and then so I see no reason to adhere to "oh, vote Saki or Titus" because you can get a lynch off in a day
Even if people are feeling apathetic and have stuff going on irl they will find time to come online and vote or look at the votes >_>

I really don't like the idea of either me or Titus getting lynched because I don't have a solid read on her and if she's town I'd rather have her around over the majority of the playerlist
call me stupid but I'm not voting titus

@xay: i don't think it's a bus, either

[Saki]

hi

bye

so how does titus and doublade flipping scum implicate me as their scumbuddy, again?

[Saki]

But your utter uselessness makes for an easy case on you. Want to help sort that out? Or replace out so we can have someone who'll play the game in your slot?

Never.

I posted links to town Saki games, Thor. His play here is clearly active lurking and not at all helping town, whilst in those games I linked, and the one that Titus linked, show a very different Saki the TOWN Saki. Where he actually tries to figure out who the scum are.

The game I played with Saki, he was Town, and acted like this all the way through. I haven't read any of his recent games. It's a possibility you're bussing him, or he's just Town

@Saki - want to address that?

My erratic playstyle is my pride. I quite value being random and hence unable to have meta used against.

Hey Saki, who do YOU personally think is scum?

RachMarie. Dry-Fit.
In light of a recent game, (I believe) anyone who scumreads me with only meta to justify the read is scum.

Wait, waitwaitwaitwait, hold everything.

Everyone look at post 3118 right now and tell me if you see what I just did.

Bringing something like that up repeatedly is a good way to end up with a rope around your neck.

*cough* your scumread on me *cough*

Since Rach keeps going on about suspecting Thor for being alive it makes me think she is likely town.

Doesn't mean she's town. Really.

I think she keeps talking about it because it's a genuine feeling she has.

In spite of counter-evidence and discouragement? I'm just an easy place to park a vote on.

[Saki]

VOTE: RachMarie

[Saki]

My erratic playstyle is my pride. I quite value being random and hence unable to have meta used against.

Brilliant work - you have developed a playstyle that prevents people from town reading you, and also disinclines scum from ever killing you because you're functionally useless. I see your playstyle being immensely helpful to you when scum, and of no help whatsoever when you're town. Great work, why can't more people play like that? It's a shame, really, these goofy players and their idea of 'helping town', nothing much to take pride of there, really.

Explain to me how an erratic playstyle prevents people from townreading me.
If I play a different way each game then people should be able to read me based on the way I'm playing that game and not the game I played previously.
I assume that players can read someone based on how they're playing in one game.
Someone who relies on reading people based off how their play in one game compares to another is fucking pathetic. Absolutely fucking pathetic.
So I don't give people like that room to read me.

[Saki]

You are scum reading me because I see you as scum in this game? That is your entire case. Saki?

omgus a lot there dude?

Scumreading me solely based off my play in another game is why I'm scumreading you.
The last player to do that turned out to be scum.
Generally, all players who do that turn out to be scum.

So technically, yeah, it's OMGUS. But I have a valid reason to OMGUS.

Nice work trying to fling shit at me.
Not like it'll help with anything because people in this game think I'm worth less than dirt.

[Saki]

not just one game several games, Saki

I'm pretty sure you only linked one and you only talked about one.

[Saki]

My erratic playstyle is my pride. I quite value being random and hence unable to have meta used against.

Brilliant work - you have developed a playstyle that prevents people from town reading you, and also disinclines scum from ever killing you because you're functionally useless. I see your playstyle being immensely helpful to you when scum, and of no help whatsoever when you're town. Great work, why can't more people play like that? It's a shame, really, these goofy players and their idea of 'helping town', nothing much to take pride of there, really.

Explain to me how an erratic playstyle prevents people from townreading me.
If I play a different way each game then people should be able to read me based on the way I'm playing that game and not the game I played previously.
I assume that players can read someone based on how they're playing in one game.
Someone who relies on reading people based off how their play in one game compares to another is Smurfing pathetic. Absolutely Smurfing pathetic.
So I don't give people like that room to read me.

This logic implies that you have play that can be read.
Your play this game is best summed up as "defensive lurk"
How should I read that?

However the hell you want to. Don't tell me that you're Smurfing incapable of that, now.

[Saki]

However the hell you want to. Don't tell me that you're Smurfing incapable of that, now.

I'm not saying I'm not, but you're the one who said we should be able to read you by your play in this game alone.
Can you describe how your play should look pro-town in any way at all?

What in the world are you actually asking because I don't get your point at all
You yell at me for the entire game for being useless and rudely ask me to replace out multiple times (yet I haven't seen you ask anyone else to replace out)
Then, right now, you're asking me how I'm pro-town?
You're asking me how I know I'm town and playing like town?
My role PM says town, idk what else I'm supposed to say to you.

Go back to telling me to replace out. You're less of a bother that way.

[Saki]

You're the one who defended your playstyle and questioned my position of calling it pure poison.
I am trying to showcase to you that it is indeed pure poison on the off-chance that you are a) town and b) give a hang.

I will take your snippish reply as a mild bit of awareness from you that I am right.
Feel free to become more pro-town - I might become less frustrated and bothered by your playstyle that way.
I am sorry you find my commentary rude.
If you are town I find the way you are playing the game equally rude to everyone with a town PM.

I defended the nature of my playstyle that varies from GAME-TO-GAME. That has nothing to do with how I'm playing in this game.
And if you consider my play this game "pure poison" then well, you're a tidbit more than nearsighted.
You're making hasty generalizations out of anger because you have no idea what's going on. Instead you resort to complaining about lurkers and apathy in half your posts without actually doing anything to combat the situation except maybe remove the blame on yourself to shove it on everyone else.

[Saki]

And tell me, really,

exactly

, what I am doing that makes me "rude to everyone witha town pm"

[Saki]

I will take your snippish reply as a mild bit of awareness from you that I am right.

And really, what kind of deluded thinking is this

[Saki]

I will take your snippish reply as a mild bit of awareness from you that I am right.

And really, what kind of deluded thinking is this

*cough* confbias *cough*

[Saki]

Well...how do you see any of your last 4 posts as helping the town wincon?
How about your last 10?
Last 20?

That was a shitty answer. I asked you to

show

me, not

tell

me. Because I don't see it.
You can sling shit like that all you want.

I'm pretty sure the number of fluff posts in my ISO is pretty much equal to the number of "omg town apathy and lurking omg" posts in your ISO.

When do you think was your last serious contribution to the town?
That's how I think you're being rude.

Rundown on what's happening in the recent Thor vs Saki: Thor can't be bothered to explain why I'm anti-town, and pushes it as a self-evident truth.

because he's confbiasing and stroking his own ego

He's being illogical and inane.
Not to mention that the only read on me he has on me atm is "oh, vig Saki out of policy for being useless."

[Saki]

VOTE: Thor665

Rach and Dry-fit can wait

[Saki]

You are both fascinatingly terrible.

Saki is pushing a lie and insanity.
Perpetual is...backing the play?

@Saki - how is 'telling you' different than 'showing you' when I cite your iso?

@Perpetual - case. Go.

More mudslinging!

I don't see any post recently where you've cited my ISO.

[Saki]

I somewhat caused the Thor wagon but I'm uncomfortable with the speed at which it got larger

[Saki]

Umm DGB Thor was our tracker so yeah it is a big loss. I would have liked to have at least been able to get his results.

Yep its standard red and green with yellow and purple representing polarity.

Did he get any? Did he leave breadcrumbs?

He was confbiasing me for being anti-town really hard. Think he finally came around to calling me scum about the time he was lynched.
Though I doubt that means anything because he thought I was a useless player that should replace out asap.

[Saki]

idgi
why would pere reveal that his polarity has been locked

[Saki]

"Ki-Gi, Mafia Polar Majority, killed Night 4. His polarity was Dark at the time of his death."
Mafia Polar Majority

Mafia Polar Majority

Mafia Polar Majority

This with the fact that all of the polarity-locked townies that haven't been locked by Jordan were town leads me to conclude that Jordan is in fact town

[Saki]

Saki, feel like explaining your thought process on that one? I feel like I'm missing something, how does Kigi's role make Jordan's more likely to be town?

Polar Majority = (I'm guessing) Polarity is always same as field polarity/majority w.e
= Less likely to be hit by night action = survival-oriented scum pr
jordan's role counters this

buuuut.
a survival-oriented scum pr died for no good reason
unless you take into account the fact that being polar majority equals less likely chance for kills to go through
which means that the kigi thing might have been a bus
and the person that i think was bussing kigi is pere

but im going off on a tangent here

tho the innately pol. locked people all being town really does point to jordan-town tho

[Saki]

Saki's still almost a flip of a coin, but, Saki, could you explain your Post 3356? How do you see Jordan only using his Power on Town meaning that he's somehow Town for it? I'm not seeing the logic.

I went back and read Saki's 3356 and I still don't see his logic, but I'm not sure it makes him scum.

Jordan's role may directly counter a flipped scum PR.

Jordan's role produces locked players. However, there are locked players that Jordan didn't lock. They have all been town.
This means a) someone else has an identical role but has not claimed/counterclaimed Jordan OR b) locked townies are part of the setup. In which case Jordan's role would be pro-town but I have no clue as to why it would be claimed.

Or why Jordan has been alive for so long after claiming.
annyways.


DGB vs PN sounds almost identical to the previous day's Saki vs Thor with the side accused of being useless getting lynched. I don't really feel scumvibes off PN. I really don't. He's somewhat making a genuine effort to try.

I'm still not done side-eyeing Rach for scumreading me for all the wrong reasons.
I still think Ki-Gi was trying to bus. And that PereV is his scumbuddy.

Yes that goes for saki and rach as well, but xay been here and posted and still isn't doing anything. Isn't pushing anything. Isn't using his vote. Which indicates to me day activity isn't important to him this game.

Hellooooo
I've been here trying to be useful since, what, day 3?
I'm

sooo

sorry I can't post a thousand posts per game like I used to, circumstances are different now.


I mean, to everyone in this game, if you keep calling someone useless, despite them trying to be useful, it's not going to do anything about their apathy for this game.
Like really, it won't.
It's just called being a jerk and shifting the blame for an undesirable situation onto someone else.
It's pretty much what got Thor to eat rope.
So please stop.

[Saki]

I get easily confused. Who do you think is town and who is scum again? Here's a list of the current players.

Town

Saki

Likely Town

Jordan_Downey (role)
TiphaineDeath (play)
Perpetual Nonsense (play)

I don't give a damn

Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Jon_h61
Xayzeck
DrippingGoofball

Scum

PeregrineV (play)
RachMarie (play)

[Saki]

Saki, it irritates me that I still have no clear stance on Xay from you when you are being useful and giving reads on other people. Do you get how he is the SK? If not who do you think is the SK? If he's not the SK do you think he is scum or town? Talk to me.

I don't give a damn

Xayzeck

[Saki]

Saki, it irritates me that I still have no clear stance on Xay from you when you are being useful and giving reads on other people. Do you get how he is the SK? If not who do you think is the SK? If he's not the SK do you think he is scum or town? Talk to me.

I don't give a damn

Xayzeck

Oh, I actually went back and read your reasons for it.
"stupid only when I want to be" is also something that I'm guilty of.
Yes, Xayzeck is probably not town.
I don't see how he is the SK, though.

[Saki]

Town

Saki

Likely Town

Jordan_Downey (role)
TiphaineDeath (play)
Perpetual Nonsense (play)

I don't give a damn

Sharpest-knife-on-tree
Jon_h61
DrippingGoofball

Scum

PeregrineV (play)
RachMarie (play)
Xayzeck (play)

here we go

[Saki]

omgus yippee

VOTE: RachMarie

I'll gladly hop onto Xay or Peggy when the time comes.

[Saki]

By the way, events of night three pretty much confirms a SK, now that I think about it.

Another reason to be scared of walking to the bathroom alone at night.

[Saki]

done waiting for pagetop vc

Never mind, noone else wants Rach dead.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Xayzeck

[Saki]

"But Pere, you're not voting Saki!"

Yeah, he could be an innocent victim of whiteknighting/buddying/

[Saki]

Now, I did some thinking
I was going to blame Thor and Pere for being useless informative roles then I remembered that there's a polarity mechanic
I'm going to assume that like-polarity actions are negated and Thor and Pere aren't told that they were blocked/negated
So basically Thor and Pere can't trust their innos but can trust their guilties

We probably should've been mass-claiming polarities for Thor and Pere to be useful
but then again claiming polarities would mean that Thor and Pere would die

[Saki]

Nvmd apparently polarity changes are done before action resolution
So thor and pere would have no choice but to somehow use their power on locked targets only for 100% accuracy

that sucks

[Saki]

Nvmd apparently polarity changes are done before action resolution

So thor and pere would have no choice but to somehow use their power on locked targets only for 100% accuracy

that sucks

Jordan's role is now 100% confirmed to be a pro-town one.

I'm very concerned with the fact that he isn't dead yet.

[Saki]

[snide remark to SKOT for forgetting about the polarity mechanic / not reading the thread properly]
but thank you
If I wasn't looking for ways that your vote on me was bullshit, then I wouldn't have thought about the mechanic


Why didn't I realize the mechanic's implications Thor's role yesterday
Why didn't anyone else realize it

Jesus

[Saki]

Okay why didn't Pere himself say this or is this something obvious that only I wasn't picking up on

[Saki]

Okay
that shifts a few reads for me

Rach is still scum
- ignoring the mechanic
- she hasn't done anything to contribute to discussion
- no scumhunting
- probably forgot her initial reason for scumreading me (and if you ask why I put this here, it's because doing that is really really scummy)

Xay might be town
- ignoring the mechanic
- but at least he's showing doubts as to what SKOT is saying

SKOT is probably scum
- ignoring the mechanic
- i'd let his vote on me slide but it seems incredibly opportunistic because Pere's last post literally says that I might be town so he was probably just scum trying to set up a mislynch

DGB
PN
- ignoring the mechanic
- tunneling hard on each other
I wouldn't put it past PN to do that
I don't know DGB well enough to say that of her, though
I'd object to a PN lynch given that he shapes up but probably wouldn't mind a DGB lynch

Tip still town though he forgot about the mechanic
and never got back to us re:3508 though the answer is obvious -> scummy

jon
I haven't seriously read john the entire game and I'll probably do that later

[Saki]

Follow Saki, town leader!
and it will be glorious!

VOTE: RachMarie

[Saki]

Okay
that shifts a few reads for me

Rach is still scum
- ignoring the mechanic
- she hasn't done anything to contribute to discussion
- no scumhunting
- probably forgot her initial reason for scumreading me (and if you ask why I put this here, it's because doing that is really really scummy)

Xay might be town
- ignoring the mechanic
- but at least he's showing doubts as to what SKOT is saying

SKOT is probably scum
- ignoring the mechanic
- i'd let his vote on me slide but it seems incredibly opportunistic because Pere's last post literally says that I might be town so he was probably just scum trying to set up a mislynch

DGB
PN
- ignoring the mechanic
- tunneling hard on each other
I wouldn't put it past PN to do that
I don't know DGB well enough to say that of her, though
I'd object to a PN lynch given that he shapes up but probably wouldn't mind a DGB lynch

Tip still town though he forgot about the mechanic
and never got back to us re:3508 though the answer is obvious -> scummy

jon
I haven't seriously read john the entire game and I'll probably do that later

okay so i basically just called everyone (minus tip/jon) scum here
that's sorta my intent
welp
but some are scummier than others so they die first

pedit: i want more effort than that, bert
I hope that's bert

[Saki]

oh and i think its probably 4 scum + 1 sk seeing how underpowered town is with the polarity mechanic in play

but atm I see no way to distinguish scum from sk so we just lynch whoever the hell is scummy

pedit: hi bert

[Saki]

v/la ~Sept1

[Saki]

nope, not going to answer to likely scum...

Bullshit excuse for dodging a question.

Why is Rach town?

[Saki]

nope, not going to answer to likely scum...

Bullshit excuse for dodging a question.

Why is Rach town?

shut up scum

You still think I'm scum after I proved that there was no way PV had a cop guilty on me?

I mean, if PV/Thor had guilties at all, I'd imagine they wouldn't hesitate to step up and claim since gulties are their only reliable investigation result, which I proved again.
Except Thor, who would have to worry about a Vig after N3.

I quoted a post from PV that said 'Oh, Saki might actually be town.'
It was a recent one, too.

[Saki]

either skot is a horribly delusional victim of confbias to levels that I cannot imagine possible
or he's scum putting down evidently anti-town actions (to create wifom or just because he's bad)

[Saki]

welp
his ISO shows a lot of not listening to other people so I'll leave it at the first

[Saki]

and by the way you should talk to your scumreads

like, really
always do

[Saki]

Naw, not where I come from...other than to taunt...
you have proved nothing, just a bunch of blah blah blah blah blah

Why weren't you vigged

[Saki]

Given the level of apathy in this game I'm not sure that logic is safe DGB.

imma echo this thought and also say that iirc PN was

never at l-1

I don't see where/how DGB is coming from, and (while I'm guilty of it) I don't like how DGB only pulls this out after the day where PN was in any danger of being lynched

it feels like she's grasping at straws

[Saki]

Naw, not where I come from...other than to taunt...
you have proved nothing, just a bunch of blah blah blah blah blah

Why weren't you vigged

*sigh*
i'd vig you personally and publicly but certain things prevent me from doing so

[Saki]

SKOT is town, I will never vote for SKOT.

im convinced that hes town but i wont be sorry to see him go especially before when he really starts to matter

[Saki]

and dgb shows no reaction/interest towards me whatsoever so I'll just stop talking to her in general

anyways
vote rach everyone

saki off

[Saki]

seriously, when an investegator has said over and over someone is scum and they end up dead, what I come from that person is turbolynched and we move on. It is really simple. I do not understand the lack of this.

"But Pere, you're not voting Saki!"

Yeah, he could be an innocent victim of whiteknighting/buddying/

If an investigator expresses his doubts about someone being scum, and opts to pursue another scumread in a process that's (looking from an objective point of view) his own logic and not a guilty he has, AND TO TOP IT OFF HE HASN'T ACTUALLY CLAIMED A GUILTY, please assume that he didn't actually have a guilty.

[Saki]

btw you keep mentioning 'where I come from'

after this game is over please fuck the hell off back to 'where you come from'

[Saki]

oops sorry everyone been a rough few days

I am VT

Could someone besides Saki who is being rather OMGUS explain the case on me?

First post in ten days and you do nothing but throw more shit my way

Thanks.
Means a lot to me.

[Saki]

oops sorry everyone been a rough few days

I am VT

Could someone besides Saki who is being rather OMGUS explain the case on me?

there is no real case, there are 2 folks on you likely scum...
and yes, this is the claim I anticipated here...

So what else will scum claim with a dead tracker?

[Saki]

Hey Saki, I don't get your post 3569, wouldn't a dead tracker make it more likely for scum to claim PR's since they can't be caught lying anymore?

refer to dgb's sig
Claiming VT has less strings attached and has less to explain than claiming a PR.
even with a dead tracker

[Saki]

I'd rather lurk until jon's replacement comes in because I see nothing that I really should be responding to but I'm back without much to do so here's a filler post

the longer jordan lives the more and more i doubt his being town
i forget when he claimed but he is apparently a town pr
with too long a life

pn still hasn't got his butt in gear
neither has dgb (FIVE null reads, cool)

I don't like Tiphane's voteswaps but then again he's probably tired of trying to play this game
What's your current stance re: Xayzeck, Tiphane?

SKOT is still a liability to town imho

Rach is still scum
Why doesn't the "lurk butt off" reason for scumreading PN not extend to Rach, DGB?
+ Your initial scumread of him was quite arbitrary so how much of this whole tunneling thing is personal amusement and how much of it is actually playing

[Saki]

What's your current stance re: Xayzeck, Tiphane?

Thank you, Tiphane.

[Saki]

what's "waffle/waffling"

[Saki]

omg i just iso rach after a breif skimback

VOTE: rach

it needs to die with fire

Tomorrow.

PN goes today.

so you

are

scumreading rach?
and why are you so insistent on killing pn today when we could've had a rach lynch 5-6 days ago

[Saki]

so you are scumreading rach?
and why are you so insistent on killing pn today when we could've had a rach lynch 5-6 days ago

Rach can to the RL-excuses lurky thing as town too, I've town-lynched her for that before, I am wary now.

you don't find her tunneling on me extremely suspicious?

[Saki]

vote saki, seriously...
:shakingheadoveridiocy:

convince me

read Peri's ISO and get back to me
let me ask you this? If a Cop say Player X would be good for a vig shot, what do you think the cop thinks about said player?

i vagluy read up on that before repalcing in.

since it PV it striked me odd....

meh if you quote it i can devine it bette rb/c im not isoing him but ill tag along...

VOTE: saki

p-edit: now thats more apparent

read: Pere didn't think I'm scum

"But Pere, you're not voting Saki!"

Yeah, he could be an innocent victim of whiteknighting/buddying/<insert mafia buzzword>

Tip's 180 on me, although I'm thankful for it, feels forced, somewhat
maybe I'm just paranoid

So, question is, is he?

Vote: TiphaineDeath

For 3483 and 3446. And if he flips scum we can lynch scum-Saki with full confidence.

[Saki]

you don't find her tunneling on me extremely suspicious?

I'm not currently in a position to fund tunneling suspicious.

lol

VOTE: Saki
baaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

OBV SCUM DETECTED

Signed:

Captain Obvious

thank you

VOTE: Perpetual Nonsense

[Saki]

dont care saki

mk then
hi scum

[Saki]

UNVOTE:

[Saki]

consider this intent to hammer, PN if you flpi town we are turboing saki

@saki try me. i will 1v1 you tommorw

so you know pn will flip town?

k

[Saki]

VOTE: ika

[Saki]

that's a nice way to react.

[Saki]

"oh shit I must've slipped let me take 5 minutes to come up with a good explanation as to why I'm town...oh here it is"

[Saki]

"Oh, and you know this hilariously long game I replaced into? Yeah I'm not going to read any of it"

[Saki]

"Also, guess what? I'm going to vote town hero just because policy lynch material knows me off site and he told me to"

[Saki]

"oh shit I must've slipped let me take 5 minutes to come up with a good explanation as to why I'm town...oh here it is"

i have more to it then you think

If you can explain how any of your actions from when you replaced in to now could possibly be helping us lynch scum then I'm 100% convinced that this isn't the world I was born in

[Saki]

"Also, guess what? I'm going to vote town hero just because policy lynch material knows me off site and he told me to"

"EVEN MORE: I'm going to declare intent to hammer someone that I have no idea that might be scum or town"

[Saki]

"Also, guess what? I'm going to vote town hero just because policy lynch material knows me off site and he told me to"

"EVEN MORE: I'm going to declare intent to hammer someone that I have no idea that might be scum or town"

"EVEN FUCKING MORE: I knew this guy was going to be L-1 the moment Saki voted him, but I don't know why Saki might be town, or voting the guy for the matter"

[Saki]

I'd fucking lynch you right now even if you were a mod-confirmed IC

[Saki]

"oh shit I must've slipped let me take 5 minutes to come up with a good explanation as to why I'm town...oh here it is"

i have more to it then you think

If you can explain how any of your actions from when you replaced in to now could possibly be helping us lynch scum then I'm 100% convinced that this isn't the world I was born in

what? this makes no sense to me.

you are aware i could of hammered w/o warning right?

And be turbolynched the next day?

[Saki]

"oh shit I must've slipped let me take 5 minutes to come up with a good explanation as to why I'm town...oh here it is"

i have more to it then you think

If you can explain how any of your actions from when you replaced in to now could possibly be helping us lynch scum then I'm 100% convinced that this isn't the world I was born in

what? this makes no sense to me.

you are aware i could of hammered w/o warning right?

And be turbolynched the next day?

If I had your style of shitposting I'd just hammer straightaway because I know I can pull off the VI card and talk my way out of that
but scum don't like to take risks, right?

[Saki]

gl trying to lynch me then ill claim long before

fullclaim right now

[Saki]

sure they already claimed no?

what, if the person claimed then it's not a quickhammer?

get that shit out of your head if they don't post after intent has been declared it's a quickhammer

[Saki]

that wasn't even the point i was trying to make

[Saki]

if you claim vt here and now
I will lynch you and have no fucking problems with it

[Saki]

the only defense you came up with is soft-claiming a pr and "oh I didn't quickhammer"

you aren't denying any of my accusations you're just shitflinging and hoping that's going to get you somewhere but it fucking won't, EVER

[Saki]

gl trying to lynch me then ill claim long before

fullclaim right now

you first. i will 1v1 you right here that when i flip town you get lynched

p-edit: still not caring your just trying to paint me as scum now

p-edit 2: does it look like im going to claim VT? you claim first

"when I flip town you get lynched"
yeah right good luck every single idiot blinded by confbias says that
at the point where you are lynched enough people think that you are scum for me to argue my way out of the mess because I genuinely thought you were scum
but you aren't going to flip town and I'm going to flip my cape and be assured that I am still town hero and you're a scumfuck with a rope around your neck

'trying to paint me as scum now'
orly?

'you claim first'
I'm not the one that softed a PR in reaction to getting called scum

[Saki]

the only defense you came up with is soft-claiming a pr and "oh I didn't quickhammer"

you aren't denying any of my accusations you're just shitflinging and hoping that's going to get you somewhere but it fucking won't, EVER

i was under on suspicion as of now, and all the sudden you come at me like a rino.

*yawn*

im not denying them b/c they are shit

"under on suspicion"
you have to explain that phrase to me because it's not english

"I'm not going to bother denying accusations against me because they're utter bullshit"
Right, the least you could do is latch onto my weakest argument and hope to hell it's going to save you
You didn't read the 150 page game and you fucking dared to vote someone then declare intent to vote someone else in the same moment and you're not going to explain yourself

BECAUSE THE SUSPICION THAT YOUR ACTIONS CAUSED IS SHIT AND YOU UTTERLY DON'T DESERVE IT?

[Saki]

snipped it all

serious question: when i flip town what will you do? will you just say "lol bad player"

how about i come in post game and say you cant read me for shit

not just bad, horrible
because you replaced into a 150 page game and switched between the top two wagons in quick succession and your only defense is that 'oh, that case against me is shit'

[Saki]

i came into the game: nobody said anything to me really

i say intent to hammer: you immitetly scum read me

I was scumreading you for your vote on me just by listening to skot
k

[Saki]

but i get it now. your just basd at reading me you can be town as of now

p-edit: and 0 fucks are given if you wat to continue i will just say what i think about this o you can shut up

okay, so now your defense isn't "im a pr so you shouldn't lynch me"
it's "you don't know me for crap so i can do all this atrocious shit and still be town"

in that case kindly replace the fuck out because I'm pretty sure you're going to end up losing me a game that I should've won

[Saki]

but i get it now. your just basd at reading me you can be town as of now

p-edit: and 0 fucks are given if you wat to continue i will just say what i think about this o you can shut up

okay, so now your defense isn't "im a pr so you shouldn't lynch me"
it's "you don't know me for crap so i can do all this atrocious shit and still be town"

in that case kindly replace the fuck out because I'm pretty sure you're going to end up losing me a game that I should've won

find me a replacement and i will do so.

that's not my job and neither is it yours and kindly refrain from joining games with me in it in the future

[Saki]

and probably beg for bulbazak's forgiveness when you do

[Saki]

i'm at a point where I have one townread and another nullread and six people who i think haven't been even trying and the least of anything i need is a replacement to be an utter sack of shit

[Saki]

but i get it now. your just basd at reading me you can be town as of now

p-edit: and 0 fucks are given if you wat to continue i will just say what i think about this o you can shut up

okay, so now your defense isn't "im a pr so you shouldn't lynch me"
it's "you don't know me for crap so i can do all this atrocious shit and still be town"

in that case kindly replace the fuck out because I'm pretty sure you're going to end up losing me a game that I should've won

find me a replacement and i will do so.

that's not my job and neither is it yours and kindly refrain from joining games with me in it in the future

ill consider it. how about we put this bicker aside for a moment and level:

im town, your prob town

whos scum?

go fucking read the game

[Saki]

go fucking read the game

im wanting to compare reads. are you seriously shutting out a reachout to you?

my reads are in a game and if you don't like my way of 'reaching out to you' then this isn't the game for you

[Saki]

go fucking read the game

im wanting to compare reads. are you seriously shutting out a reachout to you?

my reads are in a game and if you don't like my way of 'reaching out to you' then this isn't the game for you

in *this* game

[Saki]

if you claim vt here and now
I will lynch you and have no fucking problems with it

Ika is not VT

THIS IS

CONFIRMED

.

And he's town.

You can vote PN again.

masons or neighbors?

[Saki]

Saki, please stop badgering the conftown player and vote the obvscum.

I recall posting shortly before that I would lynch this scumfuck even if he was a mod-confirmed ic

[Saki]

I'm not townreading you either so I have no reason to listen to whatever you're saying
I would probably doubt whatever you're saying even if you were town

No I am not taking this scumfuck for a mod-confirmed IC
and no I am not taking my vote off ika until I can't vote him anymore.

kthx

[Saki]

masons or neighbors?

I said: CONFTOWN, that means CONFTOWN. Stop fishing.

welp if you claim and explain your role's interactions with the polarity mechanic now in a way that I find it convincing enough that you two may be conftown
else no

pedit: i need dayvig shots

[Saki]

Cool.
I'm scum just because I have not listened to your softclaim and want to lynch someone who's obviously scum by play.

I see where you're coming from. You don't want your mason-buddy lynched (assuming you two are really masons and not scum). But you aren't defending his actions and instead telling people "fuck off we're masons."

Now look where I'm coming from. This guy has been a sack of shit since he replaced in and has been all sorts of scummy; now someone I don't think is town is telling me that both of them are conftown.

Try selling me another newspaper subscription because I'm not buying your bullshit

[Saki]

You don't want your mason-buddy lynched (assuming you two are really masons and not scum). But you aren't defending his actions and instead telling people "fuck off we're masons."

and this could easily be a pair of masons (or so they say) or easily be a pair of scum pretending to be masons so w.e the fuck at this point I'm keeping my vote on ikda

[Saki]

Saki, you've lost it man, jon wasn't scum and neither is ika :/.

do you see what ika has done

[Saki]

v/la ~sept 7th, moving back to dorms

[Saki]

won't be necessary in this game though

I'd rather say good game while I can

I like to roll around in mud but I steer clear of shit

VOTE: Saki

have fun

[Saki]

so I'm back and I realize that I was being an ass

UNVOTE:

Let me pass this whole thing off as a reaction test

[Saki]

Rach-no hammer
so your only read in this game is wrong

SKOT-still being stubborn

ika-playing exactly like how I would've last year (shitpost vi, etc) (that playstyle got me banned tho)
going to go out on a limb and trust dgb

dgb-she's town or im fucked

tip-hi town

pn-you failed the test

jordan-okay you pass, somewhat

xay-you can pass too

[Saki]

intent to hammer pn

please be groupscum

[Saki]

what
the
fuuuck?

[Saki]

this makes no sense whatsoever and it is confusing me beyond everything

[Saki]

so tip is probably the sk kill and ika the scum kill

i mean, tip's sk hunting was p obvious
oh
fuck
xay actually is sk isn't he

and still why scumkill ika over dgb

and why the fuck was pn town

[Saki]

and skot continues to be a dumbass as usual

[Saki]

chance of 5 mafia and not 4?
(should we be risking a lynch?)

someone other than fucking skot talk to me

[Saki]

Does anybody know what ika's power did?

DGB, duh?

[Saki]

nowai 6 scum with underpowered town

[Saki]

there's a sk on the loose too it's not 6 scum

[Saki]

and besides, 6 scum is lylo and 5scum is mylo

[Saki]

TD wanted Xay lynched bad for being SK
he was scum sk hunting
that's not 'Xayzeck town' its 'Xayzeck nearly confirmed SK'

TD wanted rach lynched bad is also not 'Rach town'

Titus and Doublade wanted me lynched bad but you call me scum so there's pretty huge gaping holes in your logic

IT took you
THIIIS LONG
TO FUCKING FIGURE OUT
THAT JORDAN WAS TOWN?
k.

You aren't looking for a serial killer
and you took the pain to say "I am town twice"
someone's feeling a little insecure, isn't he?

[Saki]

Also it's generally accepted that you start popcorn claims with yourself but idc the only three people not claimed are SKOT, me, and Xayzeck and I know very fucking well what all three role PMs will look like

[Saki]

Has any known town been focused on this so-called serial killer. Yes, there is another killer but what makes folks think it is a serial killer? and what is the deal with one day of 3 kills?

You mean
there's a possible explanation
for three kills
TWO OF WHICH WERE MAFIA

OTHER THAN THE PRESENCE OF AN SK?

[Saki]

Has any known town been focused on this so-called serial killer. Yes, there is another killer but what makes folks think it is a serial killer? and what is the deal with one day of 3 kills?

You mean
there's a possible explanation
for three kills
TWO OF WHICH WERE MAFIA

OTHER THAN THE PRESENCE OF AN SK?

no fucking explanation other than vig-sk-scum

look, there's exactly three people that haven't claimed and I'm pretty fucking sure that they need to die minus me

[Saki]

TD wanted Xay lynched bad for being SK
he was scum sk hunting
that's not 'Xayzeck town' its 'Xayzeck nearly confirmed SK'

TD wanted rach lynched bad is also not 'Rach town'

Titus and Doublade wanted me lynched bad but you call me scum so there's pretty huge gaping holes in your logic

IT took you
THIIIS LONG
TO FUCKING FIGURE OUT
THAT JORDAN WAS TOWN?
k.

You aren't looking for a serial killer
and you took the pain to say "I am town twice"
someone's feeling a little insecure, isn't he?

heh, absolutely no insecurity at all... I have been pretty dead on this game in terms of who is scum when it is all said and done.

there was

totally

the need to say "I am town" TWICE in a single a-tidbit-more-than-10-lines post.

[Saki]

Has any known town been focused on this so-called serial killer. Yes, there is another killer but what makes folks think it is a serial killer? and what is the deal with one day of 3 kills?

You mean
there's a possible explanation
for three kills
TWO OF WHICH WERE MAFIA

OTHER THAN THE PRESENCE OF AN SK?

yes, I can think of one. Usually found in most games one level or another and 100% pure town.
2 mafia dead one night, so mafia killed themselves on that night?

Sorry, mafia suicide isn't a rule that is in effect in any way on this site.

[Saki]

so do I vote for Xayzeck or do I vote for SKOT
who's going to have the quickest wagon
they need to be dead NOW

[Saki]

Has any known town been focused on this so-called serial killer. Yes, there is another killer but what makes folks think it is a serial killer? and what is the deal with one day of 3 kills?

You mean
there's a possible explanation
for three kills
TWO OF WHICH WERE MAFIA

OTHER THAN THE PRESENCE OF AN SK?

no fucking explanation other than vig-sk-scum

look, there's exactly three people that haven't claimed and I'm pretty fucking sure that they need to die minus me

well then let me tell you what... I know there is a vig, because it is me.
I killed Titus, Ki-Gi, and TD. I also tried to kill Zzzx but my polarity is off. I had thought of killing you based on PV's suggestion but I opted for Zzzx instead. I have no idea who killed Double- as no one has taken responsibility for that kill and it was not me. There is no serial killer.

Seven days
and you shot four times?

[Saki]

k
so this guy moonlogic-ing the game and spewing absolute bullshit has managed to fire his gun randomly and hit scum three times
awfully lucky
and awfully suspicious

[Saki]

no way in fucking hell is this a legit claim

[Saki]

and besides, 6 scum is lylo and 5scum is mylo

scratch that, 6 scum+SK is autoloss

I'm autoloss'd, aren't I

fuck this game

[Saki]

I'm out
I'm totally out

I better come back to skot hanging from a tree or I'm probably just going to hang myself

[Saki]

back

yes

but apparently a VI wants my blood over hers and we're letting him get away with it

VOTE: RachMarie

[Saki]

by poe

Saki
SKOT
DGB
Jordan

leaving
RachMarie
Xayzeck

[Saki]

this game is too quiet, too dead.

Claim: Reflector

I send all like-polarity actions used on me back at the user instead of absorbing them. (Which is why I guessed what a "Deflector" was.)
I was not told if the actions I send back are successful or not or even what polarity they are.
All opposite-polarity actions still go through.

I've been alternating polarity throughout the game, starting with Light on D1, and I am Light now.

SKOT can shoot me all he wants, but at his own risk

[Saki]

so yeah, really,

lynch Rach
vig Xay


or lynch Xay
vig Rach

ez win

[Saki]

not told if im targeted

i have no idea what my role actually does either
it doesn't make any more sense to me than you

[Saki]

so you beg for my claim and now you want to lynch me for it

k
cool

im so fucking done

[Saki]

It sounds like it's designed to make him a bad NK target, and with a claimed vig sounds survivalistic

bullshit

I'll die anyways with opposing polarity and there's a polarity locker anyways

It sounds like it's designed to make him a bad NK target,

this + the fact his role makes more sense for scum than town

and I'm VT

why would my role be scum if opposing polarity actions go through anyways

[Saki]

both tracker and cop seems weird.

literally nothing changes from a normal vt

[Saki]

the only thing my role seems to counter (assuming the like-polarity absorption applies to reflected actions as well)
is jordan's polarity-locking role or polarity-altering roles

which is why i was hesitant to call jordan town the entire game

and why jordan probably didn't hesitate too long to vote me

[Saki]

whatever guys do whatever you want if you lynch me it's gg anyways

[Saki]

won't even get to lynch rach/xay and maybe jordan

/blame skot

[Saki]

and why jordan probably didn't hesitate too long to vote me

probably why jordan didn't hesitate*

lol English

[Saki]

but srs guys don't listen to skot if you want to discuss whether or not my role is town
his argument isn't "Saki's role is scummy therefore he's scum"
it's "Saki is scummy so Saki's role is scum"

[Saki]

why would my role be scum if opposing polarity actions go through anyways

I mean look at it this way: the only flipped scum PR is a Polar Majority Goon
and logically we can derive that Polar Minority is also a possible role

now look at this

Polar Majority

- likelihood that actions hit self

- likelihood that actions go through on others

Polar Minority

+ likelihood that actions hit self

+ likelihood that actions go through on others

So these are probably semi-Commuters or semi-Strongmen with drawbacks, and

they all affect the likelihood that actions hit themselves

Conversely my role does nothing of the sort

idk wtf is the reasoning behind my role being scum

[Saki]

Pick one.

the more and more i think about it Jordan needs to die
can we like double lynch rach and jordan then have xay vigged

[Saki]

next

there is no 'next'

[Saki]

Also, after a look at the flips and some thinking, I don't think 6 scum makes sense. There's not enough town power to make up for that big of a scumteam, IMO.

That means we are likely in 4v1v1 territory today.

you really should've listened to me like a week ago yo

[Saki]

Let's lynch Rach, guys.

[Saki]

Do you honestly think that when he is at L-1 and with self vote and others sitting by side that scum would not take the opportunity to finish him? Seriously.

there's a fucking vig alive in a 4v1v1
what kind of scum quickhammers with a fucking vig alive in a 4v1v1

[Saki]

Vig him tonight.

Rach is scum.

please, come at me, skot
so that everyone can fucking blame you for your moonlogic and shitty vig shot post game when town loses

[Saki]

I believe strongly that Saki is scum. The way this has played out confirms it to me all the more.

you must believe in the concept of 'proof by repetition'

[Saki]

Everything to my very core tells me he is scum.

k that's a convincing case

He would have been long lynched already where I come from as it is that apparent.

i shudder at the thought of a whole community of people who think like you do

Please, give me any evidence that you can that may convince me.

Look at one of my posts
Locate the post number
Click "ISO"
kthx

Self voting is not one of them.

everyone else: oh so yeah saki is town/scum and here's the list of reasons why
*lists at least ten going in either direction*
what skot hears: SAKI IS TOWN BECAUSE SELFVOTE LOLOLOLOL
what skot thinks: no he's not, Saki is scum and I said so so he must be scum and the only way to confirm that ever is by lynching him
and there's absolutely no fucking reason to listen to what anyone that's not me says

[Saki]

game too slow

[Saki]

^

he said what i want to say but better
missed jordan's claim but w.e

[Saki]

and the dgb-ika claim

[Saki]

so everyone that calls me obvtown is scum

welp

gg guys

[Saki]

beats me

I was dark going into last night

[Saki]

welp it's obviously Kai and Jordan for scum

I mean, c'mon, DGB is something like a mason afaik and I don't think mafia masons are a thing in bulbazak's games
esp a game not advertised as bastard

dgb what's your full role
did you actually roleblock SKOT or something because I'm pretty sure he shot me and his shot was supposed to go through

[Saki]

Kai gets 10/10 for his acting

dgb
pls
no
I'm town
not jordan

don't listen to jordan
(I take everything back about Jordan being town by role b/c no way scum or sk would leave him to lylo)

Saki was "dark going into last night." which is all well and good until you realize that was yesterday's polarity. Saki is claiming to have been dark yesterday.

Each night, players may choose to switch their polarity, unless they are told otherwise. These changes will go into effect immediately.
Polarity changes and actions regarding polarities go into effect before all other actions.

I was Light yesterday, and I changed to Dark last night.

I've been alternating polarity throughout the game, starting with Light on D1, and I am Light now.

Just like I claimed here.

Why is this a scumclaim? Yesterday we had two light aligned flips. That means we had two kills sent by players of the dark polarity. This wouldn't be a huge issue until you realize there can only have been two players of the dark polarity yesterday. One was ika. Saki just claimed to have been the other. Thus Saki just claimed to have shot two nights ago and hit ika.

I'm pretty god damned sure one of those 'light-aligned flips' was caused by a lynch.

Could he be somewhat bulletproof?

Everything in this game is somewhat bulletproof.

What do we do?

I got it.
I GOT IT.
We can go into tomorrow with 1:1:1.

We know a few things: Jordan is the SK, and he can lock polarities.
Kai is groupscum.
Kills don't go through if they're opposite polarities.
Right now the Field Polarity is Light. With 4 people, to get a Light field polarity, 3 or 4 people must be Light.
I'm Dark. So you, Kai, and Jordan are all Light.
Kai is light-locked.

We need to no lynch.

Jordan can do one of two things: A) switch to Dark and shoot Kai for the win or B) shoot blindly at you or me
If A), and Kai decides to shoot Jordan, Jordan and Kai cross-kill and we win.
And if Kai doesn't do that, well, then Jordan wins.

If B), and Kai decides to shoot Jordan, there's an absorbed kill on Jordan and both Jordan and Kai live through the night and it's 4:1:1 or 3:1:1
but here's the thing: if Kai also decides to shoot a townie for a scum-SK draw, then the kill Kai sends can only be Light.








So, if we no lynch, and change both our polarities to light (in your case, don't change), and Jordan doesn't change his polarity to Dark, then he can't kill anyone (neither can Kai) and both of us live to tomorrow with no successful kill.

If Jordan changes his polarity to Dark and shoots one of us, then Jordan is Dark and Kai is Light going into a 1:1:1 scenario where both of them know each other's polarity and the remaining townie can (hopefully) convince them to cross-kill somehow.

[Saki]

Saki gets to be town hero once more.

VOTE: no lynch

Kai you aren't getting a kill on me tonight or (hopefully) DGB so shoot Jordan please <3

[Saki]

Why play kingmaker when you can cross your fingers for a cross-kill

[Saki]

Why play kingmaker when you can cross your fingers for a cross-kill

(TWICE)

[Saki]

Why play kingmaker when you can cross your fingers for a cross-kill

(TWICE)

(OR MORE IF JORDAN'S A WUSSY)