Mini 1579: The Great Flavor Caper (Game Over)

[evilpacman18]

yay I can town read Slandaar for once

[evilpacman18]

Last time i saw slandaar not make a vote in the first post he was scum

vote slandaar

You made this too easy

Why do you think it's likely that he would do the same here?

[evilpacman18]

Nvm I think you're town, no need to answer that.

[evilpacman18]

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

vote: Josh_B

[evilpacman18]

This game is blazing along. Got prodded, I'll be in tomorrow

[evilpacman18]

unvote

let's start with that

[evilpacman18]

and now I'm reading. Sorry. Soccer games been distracting me.

[evilpacman18]

1. Josh_B
scum for sure. the early stuff with Bacde and the link absolutely reeks. It's tunnelly and pointless and town would have realized that and backed down in such an early part of the game.

2. Slandaar
town by first post
165 is town as shit, this read isn't going anywhere

3. Bacde
town by page 2

4. Sharpest-knife-on-tree

6. chaoslord54
could be paranoia because I know him IRL and got him on the site but I kind of have a scum read

7. Titus
oh hi
is paranoid
is town
I will paraphrase IRL Titus here: "If I am being a crazy person I am town" I promise you she said something like that.
this game is easy

8. T S O

9. reinoe
wrong but town

10. Elyse
has a history of being wrong. alignment could go either way.
oh she's town yeah. thinking of a lot of good angles

11. TheYankeeReaper

12. Wake88
probably scum for being the second person to vote with random.org
definitely scum. very full of shit (101)

13. Mirhawk
somehow makes me very not interested in reading his posts

sorry that's like out of order stream of consciousness cuz normally I do page by page but I felt like changing it up here. This is only like 10 pages in, I will figure out T S O and SKOT and whoever else when I get home.
My vote was fine.

vote: Josh_B

[evilpacman18]

I'm not lynching SKOT. I'll happily go for Wake though, they both needa go.

vote: Wake88

[evilpacman18]

wow I like that T S O

you guys are fast posters lol. I skimmed earlier this afternoon, I believe Josh_B unfortunately. Unfortunate because I still want him dead about as much as when I thought he was scum but that's counterproductive.

[evilpacman18]

no massclaim is not an option, Jesus.

[evilpacman18]

It's day 1! And most of the claims we already have are provable! For the vig claim we can wait to see if there's multiple deaths in a night. For the backup cop claim (although I don't believe it) we could potentially wait to see if we get a flip from some other investigative role (tracker, etc.) or none at all. If there's no cop outed by day 3 or 4 and Wake is still alive it'll be an easy lynch. Am I missing any other claims?

[evilpacman18]

someone claimed doc?

[evilpacman18]

who

[evilpacman18]

oh nvm

[evilpacman18]

well Doc is harder to deal with but if there's a night without a kill then that's easy. We should lynch Wake still.

[evilpacman18]

that is absolutely ridiculous Titus.

[evilpacman18]

and if by some stretch of the imagination, it happens to be the case and we lynch Wake and he flips VT or something, I would not feel bad one bit or consider it a mislynch.

[evilpacman18]

the problem with that, assuming you actually believe it, is that you should be voting him because even if he is town it is better for him not to be alive. that's really cynical though and I have higher hopes for Wake as a person than I think you do.

[evilpacman18]

if there is a backup cop there is a cop -_-
the real cop shouldn't claim, if they do they are more likely to die without getting us any useful results. We should lynch Wake, when he flips scum the rest of his team will have to decide between killing claimed PRs or cop-hunting which is WIFOMy enough to actually be the only thing that will keep our PRs (whichever ones of all the claimed are actually PRs) from being ravaged right away. There's probably a GF too (did Slandaar just godfather claim?) so I would only trust a cop guilty.

P.S. I'm saying this because there are new players here but IF ANYONE IS A MILLER THEY SHOULD CLAIM IN THEIR NEXT POST

ok
anyway SKOT what's up with that?

[evilpacman18]

the problem with that, assuming you actually believe it, is that you should be voting him because even if he is town it is better for him not to be alive. that's really cynical though and I have higher hopes for Wake as a person than I think you do.

I don't vote players for being anti-town. Even then, the way he claimed it was indicative of sarcasm.

What's the deal with higher hopes as a person? I have very high hopes for Wake. You just seem to be backhanded buddying.

VOTE: Pacman


@Bacde, no more claims unless massclaim.

exactly who am I buddying? The person my vote is on?

[evilpacman18]

don't be thick

[evilpacman18]

unvote

[evilpacman18]

In other words, post like me

[evilpacman18]

As I explained, Backup Cop is an extremely safe and unverifiable fake claim.

That fact is true.

Also, Deputy is a flavor name for a Backup Cop.

Out of curiosity, when you received your role PM was your role high-lighted in bright green? If so, which color code did you receive?

vote:Wake88

[evilpacman18]

Not to mention there's a sample PM in the OP for this exact reason

[evilpacman18]

um why?

[evilpacman18]

TSO just vote

[evilpacman18]

Elyse wagon is absolutely terrible. Sprung up and is going all the way in no time at all.

Look Titus I know you're town so please unvote. Screw the meta bullshit, screw even your read just look at this situation.
This town is disjointed and half apathetic and thrown off by all the PR claims and bullshit.
Do you seriously think we pulled a scum wagon out of our asses with deadline time to spare and not really much of a case to be found anywhere? No. And I know you hate to admit you're wrong before flips do it for you but pleeeeeease don't be stubborn and just unvote. If for no other reason than because the deadline isn't close yet.
Now I'm pretty sure one if not both of Josh_B and Wake are scum and if you unvote, I will stop being a lazy shit and do actual work and figure it out and prove it to you.
But Elyse is a mislynch, I'm sure of it.

Mirhawk is scum btw.

[evilpacman18]

Bacde stop voting Elyse over one post.

[evilpacman18]

nah Josh_b is town, it's wake.

[evilpacman18]

Titus is probably scum too tbh.
Titus/Mirhawk/Wake.
That's my call.
It also means I don't expect the Elyse wagon to subside. Sorry Elyse.

[evilpacman18]

to be fair I probably haven't read 10% of the total number of words in Mirhawk posts, scum read is based on vote placement

[evilpacman18]

Fine. I'll start. VT. Popcorn Mirhawk. Do we have to go over people who have claimed again?

Titus you know how I knew you were scum? Because I already knew that you weren't gonna unvote by the time I was done asking you to do so. I think if you were town you would have unvoted and listened.

[evilpacman18]

I mean I knew you wouldn't be unvoting in your next post -_-

[evilpacman18]

Which you didn't

[evilpacman18]

Also the massclaim wasn't my idea...

[evilpacman18]

Fine. I'll start. VT. Popcorn Mirhawk. Do we have to go over people who have claimed again?

Titus you know how I knew you were scum? Because I already knew that you weren't gonna unvote by the time I was done asking you to do so. I think if you were town you would have unvoted and listened.

Yeah you knew I wouldn't unvote in five minutes. What rocket science. Add in 10:30 at night...

If we can't lynch Elyse, we are lynching Pacman.

Also how is this post scummy??? Especially since your misunderstanding of it hinges on my being some kind of idiot, how did you misunderstand my post in that way and not conclude that I must be a VI?

[evilpacman18]

I mean I knew you wouldn't be unvoting in your next post -_-

Are you trying to build a case on someone not unvoting a scumread because you asked?

Evilpacman you should vote Elyse.

Yes.

No.

[evilpacman18]

vote: Titus

[evilpacman18]

Titus why are you ignoring that I pointed out you're completely misunderstanding how I came to realize you are scum? Not only that but seizing and pushing the misinformation!

[evilpacman18]

I mean I knew you wouldn't be unvoting in your next post -_-

Are you trying to build a case on someone not unvoting a scumread because you asked?

Evilpacman you should vote Elyse.

Yes.

No.

Evilpacman you know how I knew you were scum? Because I already knew that you weren't gonna unvote by the time I was done asking you to do so. I think if you were town you would have voted to lynch scum.

Unassailable logic is unassailable.

What you're missing here is that I know Titus would listen if she was town.

[evilpacman18]

Elyse wagon is absolutely terrible. Sprung up and is going all the way in no time at all.

Look Titus I know you're town so please unvote. Screw the meta bullshit, screw even your read just look at this situation.
This town is disjointed and half apathetic and thrown off by all the PR claims and bullshit.
Do you seriously think we pulled a scum wagon out of our asses with deadline time to spare and not really much of a case to be found anywhere? No. And I know you hate to admit you're wrong before flips do it for you but pleeeeeease don't be stubborn and just unvote. If for no other reason than because the deadline isn't close yet.
Now I'm pretty sure one if not both of Josh_B and Wake are scum and if you unvote, I will stop being a lazy shit and do actual work and figure it out and prove it to you.
But Elyse is a mislynch, I'm sure of it.

Mirhawk is scum btw.

Titus is probably scum too tbh.
Titus/Mirhawk/Wake.
That's my call.
It also means I don't expect the Elyse wagon to subside. Sorry Elyse.

Pacman claims that I'm scum because I didn't unvote within the time period despite zero posts from other players or evidence I was fucking awake or evidence Elyse was town.

Pigs, nor that case, will fly.

please quote exactly what in my posts made you think I meant within the 5 minute time period that I made those 3 or 4 posts.

[evilpacman18]

Nvm Titus don't even bother to quote that, it doesn't exist, I will just explain it to you AGAIN. In steps, because you are hellbent on pretending to be dull so you don't have to switch your vote off the mislynch you're about to push through.

[evilpacman18]

Step 1: I have a townread on you for whatever reason

[evilpacman18]

Step 2: I ask you to be reasonable because this lynch is too easy and in a town that can't agree on shit, that almost certainly means scum are pushing it along

[evilpacman18]

Step 3: I realize that you will refuse to unvote. I didn't need you to refuse to unvote to realize that you would refuse to unvote. Why? Because you're being stubborn and overly self-assured. Regardless, when you came back, you didn't unvote. WHADDYA KNOW, I WAS RIGHT

[evilpacman18]

Step 4: I realize that if you are overly self-assured Day 1, you are scum.

[evilpacman18]

Step 5: I realize that it is, in fact the case that you are overly self-assured, and that it is in fact Day 1, and so it necessarily follows that you are, in fact, scum.

The end.

[evilpacman18]

Step 2: I ask you to be reasonable because this lynch is too easy and in a town that can't agree on shit, that almost certainly means scum are pushing it along

How is the Elyse lynch "easy"? It's coming after THREE PR CLAIMS. You seem to have come out of the woodworkd after lurk-a-derping all game just to offer some chainsaw defense.


@BACDE&WAKE
Please tell me you guys are seeing this. Elyse is scum.

That's not true, I was gone for the first 25 pages or so and have been here consistently since. My Elyse defense is like 3 pages new.

And the Elyse lynch was easy in first of all the speed it grew, the inherent complacency in many of the votes on it, and the lack of any substantial arguments against lynchin Elyse besides her own until I defended her.

[evilpacman18]

Hmmmm

unvote[\b]
Titus just popcorn someone

[evilpacman18]

Wrong slash?

unvote

[evilpacman18]

Why did you suddenly unvote me Pacman?

Because you claimed cop, and as far as explaining the source of your unmerited ego tripping, being a PR makes as much sense as being scum.

So can we lynch Josh_B

[evilpacman18]

Titus do you remember when I was against mass claiming? I was the first person to say it. I can link you to the post if you want. Please don't ignore me, let's talk.

[evilpacman18]

Titus do you remember when I was against mass claiming? I was the first person to say it. I can link you to the post if you want. Please don't ignore me, let's talk.

I'll pretend you're not talking to me solely to avoid a hypothetical cop check.

Give me one good reason why Elyse is town but refuses to share her scum meta saying it's all terrible to judge her against?

Because meta is dumb. Answer my question.

[evilpacman18]

if we have a cop, then (cop, doc, vig) one must be lying.

Best to let scum tell us which ones are telling the truth or kill a VT letting us scumhunt based on claimed actions. :nod:


Pacman, you may have been. I'm too lazy to look up context at the time of your claim.

Well I just went along with the mass claim idea. Do you know why?

[evilpacman18]

Well I just went along with the mass claim idea. Do you know why?

You want our power roles outed and killed?

They did a good job of doing that themselves

[evilpacman18]

Titus there is another question for you, see 1069

[evilpacman18]

they are both wrong. In actuality, I still don't think a mass claim is a great idea. Several of my strongest town reads do though and I see their reasoning. So I gave in. This is called compromise. It is a respectful and intelligent to do sometimes. Unfortunately it requires one get over oneself and admit that one might be wrong....

you should try it

[evilpacman18]

take one for the team

[evilpacman18]

they are both wrong. In actuality, I still don't think a mass claim is a great idea. Several of my strongest town reads do though and I see their reasoning. So I gave in. This is called compromise. It is a respectful and intelligent to do sometimes. Unfortunately it requires one get over oneself and admit that one might be wrong....

you should try it

The great bulk of my townreads are voting Elyse. So I'll compromise with them and myself and...

keep voting Elyse.

Why is it so important she live to you? Why is she town? My vote isn't moving until that's answered.

I'm not talking about Elyse I'm talking about claiming

[evilpacman18]

If Titus is out town leader we've lost this game.

[evilpacman18]

speaking of compromise

vote: Mirhawk

[evilpacman18]

Elyse remember when you went along with ABR's fake mason claim. Do you think Titus could be doing that here with the cop softclaims?

[evilpacman18]

vote: Titus

[evilpacman18]

Mirhawk, which game?

[evilpacman18]

so how bout that mass claim

vote: Titus

[evilpacman18]

bacde, vote titus AT LEAST until she stops bullshitting about her claim

[evilpacman18]

Seriously though, anybody voting Slandaar is shit at this game and there is probably some other possibility besides the ridiculously astronomical probablity of a non-CCing dayvig or a scum dayvig shooting someone who is bulletproof? I don't even... Slandaar is confirmable town!

[evilpacman18]

Smh

[evilpacman18]

lol game. although I can't see how you won it playing like that -_-

God I'm stupid.

speaking of which

fun fact: I had to replace out because chaoslord over here was POSTING IN HIS SCUM QT IN FRONT OF ME AT WORK and so I knew he was scum

[evilpacman18]

Well I'd be lying if I said I didn't try to get him modkilled first.

[evilpacman18]

Not to mention there's a sample PM in the OP for this exact reason

OMG LOL, I didn't even see that, I just went straight to my pm.