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Post Post #12 (isolation #0) » Sat Jun 14, 2014 6:49 pm

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In post 8, Rubicon wrote:Time to lurk!
Good plan.

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Post Post #31 (isolation #1) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:44 am

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I'm a chronic lurker so when I'm having a-bit-o'-fun with that.

There is no difference in the motivations you assign to ZZZX than the possible motivations I could have based upon our posts. 'don't lower / heighten Xay's L-2 status' is simply an indication he doesn't want you to self-hammer if you are the jester. The difference of announcing / not announcing L-2 status is indeed a difference, but not one that's very important or particularly meaningful. If you think about it, who would you place more scrutiny on, the person who voted you to L-2 (which includes a self-vote, which obviously somewhat dilutes the wagon) or two other people who vote and hammer you in quick succession? I'd have my doubts that in twilight you'd look at my vote and say "That's the one, that's the one that did it! GET EM BOYS!"

Anyway, I think you post in general is a little town just because of your first sentence. I also do not think you are the jester. So much so I'd ask someone to put you at L-1 immediately to test and treat a hammerer as confirmed scum (though not to be lynched until D4 obviously). So if anyone has the balls to do so, I encourage you to vote Xay.

Doctor Pepper has a distinct possibility of being the jester, and if he's not, scum. "I am the jester" after Xay self-voted earlier seems like he'd lose value in whatever he's trying to do if he were town.
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Post Post #33 (isolation #2) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:45 am

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In post 32, shos wrote:So then, let's talk alittle rougher to start the game

what is your opinion about playing jester? do you play town and try to get town to lynch you to get rid of the jester or do you play scummy to try to get lynched??

VOTE: Actiondan

HAY XAYZEK DIZ B TIEBRKR I hope we're not on the same team B)
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Post Post #49 (isolation #3) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 4:35 pm

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In post 45, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 31, ActionDan wrote:Anyway, I think you post in general is a little town just because of your first sentence. I also do not think you are the jester. So much so I'd ask someone to put you at L-1 immediately to test and treat a hammerer as confirmed scum (though not to be lynched until D4 obviously). So if anyone has the balls to do so, I encourage you to vote Xay.
I have a huge problem with this.

Sure, I'd get lynched if it helps, I'm down for L-1 until deadline if that's what the town needs

But treating the hammer as confscum? Wouldn't that be EXACTLY what the jester wants?
In post 46, Melmond wrote:
In post 15, DoctorPepper wrote:Im the jester. Discuss.
kewl, is that why you have pepsi as an avatar instead of Dr.Pepper?

Xay: I really don't think putting someone at L-2 in RVS is that sneaky, especially when it's actually L-3.
In post 30, Xayzeck wrote:selfvote felt strange btw

scummy kinda strange

AND HELLO AGAIN SHOS
So your selfvote must be scummy too then? I find it strange to mention when you did it yourself.

I do agree with #45 though. I think Xay is either town or jester.
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Post Post #54 (isolation #4) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:36 pm

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In post 44, Shinobi wrote:
In post 33, ActionDan wrote:
In post 32, shos wrote:So then, let's talk alittle rougher to start the game

what is your opinion about playing jester? do you play town and try to get town to lynch you to get rid of the jester or do you play scummy to try to get lynched??

VOTE: Actiondan

HAY XAYZEK DIZ B TIEBRKR I hope we're not on the same team B)
You make posts like this
What's wrong with that post? 'Splain pls.
I'm assuming it's directed at me. Apparently this is a tough (rough) question for me. And the only thing this might refer to is either my opinion of Xay or Dr pepper... though I don't know which nor how. The vote I assume is connected since I just made a content post. What's wrong is that there are a few gaps intentionally not filled
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Post Post #55 (isolation #5) » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:43 pm

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In post 53, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 51, shos wrote:My self vote was the best vote town could have.

Let us ignore the jest please and scunhunt
Its very hard to get lynched d1 as jest.
ActionDan was(and still is, love where your vote is btw) a good place it could've gone too.
I'm 'still' waiting for you to properly read the post you had a massive problem with
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Post Post #58 (isolation #6) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:23 am

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Hey Dr. P

##Vote: Dr Pepper
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Post Post #59 (isolation #7) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:24 am

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That is in fact L-1

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Post Post #63 (isolation #8) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:35 am

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In post 57, shos wrote:lol that is not nearly a town reaction the lie in this post is so obv
Can you spell this out. Context is obscured here
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Post Post #64 (isolation #9) » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:37 am

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In post 62, Xayzeck wrote:claim? what claim do you want

"im scum dont hammer"

"im jester pls hammer"

there are no PRs in this setup
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Post Post #132 (isolation #10) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:05 pm

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picking up my prod. It's nice to see that Psyche has, unlike most of the people here, passed a 3rd grade level reading comprehension test
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Post Post #133 (isolation #11) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:07 pm

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I am pretty A-OK with DrP dying today. I was planning to vote Melmond earlier but Psyche really has cleaned up the slot.
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Post Post #134 (isolation #12) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:12 pm

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In post 130, Psyche wrote:shos
Shos / Rubicon are the strongest jester candidates I have atm.
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Post Post #136 (isolation #13) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:30 pm

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In post 135, Rubicon wrote:Dan, thoughts on Xay?
I'm pretty sure the majority of my post history is precisely this. Unfortunately he has jumped ship so I'll have to rely on his replacement to get a better read than "a little town but subpar reading skills if so"
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Post Post #137 (isolation #14) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:30 pm

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He's also not the jester
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Post Post #138 (isolation #15) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:36 pm

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In post 127, ZZZX wrote:Psych is giving me jester waves. The perfect plan is being apposed by him because he might see no chance of victory? I am not sure.
Psyche is giving the exact opposite "waves".

"I want to do/play better" = "I want to win, but probably not by purposely sabotaging myself into lynching material at some point to do so"

You can say that that statement is a wifom-y jester move and psyche is a reverse psychological genius egads... or a "wave" entirely contrary to your opinion.

I'll take the latter.
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Post Post #140 (isolation #16) » Wed Jun 18, 2014 4:13 pm

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Oh wait that "X" guy idled out not the other one.

In that case:
In post 67, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 55, ActionDan wrote:I'm 'still' waiting for you to properly read the post you had a massive problem with
Do you have a problem with me having a problem with your post?

:lol:
Ya I do, because if you bothered to read the parenthetical your "massive problem" would completely disappear, theoretically.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #17) » Fri Jun 20, 2014 4:23 am

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In post 213, Aronis wrote:
At the moment we have a 1/9 shot at lynching the Jester, However, by day 3 it will be reduced to a 1/7 chance, so by waiting to lynch the conf not-jester until D3, we increase our odds of missing the Jester even more by avoiding that day.
In post 214, shos wrote:Thank you, oh wise ol' mann.
Since I keep seeing this pop up from shos and I guess now Aronis, I'd like to remark about how completely bullshit it is.

If you aren't lynching DrP/Aronis today and waiting until D3, then the chance of a jester lynch is 1/8 and on D2, if again we don't lynch Aronis, it's 1/7. chance of not lynching the jester is (7/8)(6/7) = 3/4.

If instead, we lynch DrP/Aronis today. The chance is still (7/8)(6/7) = 3/4.

It doesn't take math to figure this out. It takes ~1 brain cell.
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Post Post #258 (isolation #18) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:41 pm

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Psyche is hilariously not scum.

And probably not jester but I want to prove it then argue that we should totally not lynch him to even further pressure the jester.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #19) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:43 pm

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VOTE: psyche
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Post Post #260 (isolation #20) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:46 pm

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I'm in voting after confirmation to be clear
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Post Post #261 (isolation #21) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 6:47 pm

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Unvoting
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Post Post #267 (isolation #22) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 7:32 pm

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In post 254, Xayzeck wrote:
L-2 btw

Thanks a lot.

Should I call you sneaky?

Or should I save that ZXXZY with that shitty line vote.

VOTE: Aronis
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Post Post #271 (isolation #23) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 8:11 pm

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Psyche only died because I thought it was L-2. People thought he was scum. Why you ask? because they're dumb
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Post Post #274 (isolation #24) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:06 pm

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I see you have a chronic condition of not reading my posts that would quite completely answer every question you toss me.
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Post Post #275 (isolation #25) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:10 pm

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In post 268, shos wrote:AD is jest
I'm not.

Xay's not, Aronis isn't

The rest of you who knows.
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Post Post #276 (isolation #26) » Sat Jun 21, 2014 9:11 pm

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In post 254, Xayzeck wrote:hello

i have caught up, i do not have an amazing catchup post for all of you

VOTE: Psyche

Recent interaction with Hiraki

also yes, Hiraki has a weird readlist upon replacing in

L-2 btw
quick question:

Recent interaction with Hiraki include Psyche thinking Hiraki's readlist sucked.

Why vote him.
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Post Post #286 (isolation #27) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:02 am

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In post 278, shos wrote:Hence to voat.

AD, if you are still breathing by D4, i will vote you till I dir
At this point, right back at you. The competency of the rest of the group is questionable at best, but anyone with a better understanding of the game would have developed a townread of psyche.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #28) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 3:15 am

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In post 281, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 276, ActionDan wrote:Recent interaction with Hiraki include Psyche thinking Hiraki's readlist sucked.

Why vote him.
psyche reacted a lot to his wagon

i didn't like it

similarly the way he talks to Hiraki didn't strike me as town, if that makes any sense

I think everyone agrees Hiraki's readlist sucked, except Hiraki

But that is unrelated to the psyche vote, I just put it out there
Ok. For the future his entire reaction was very town.
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Post Post #289 (isolation #29) » Sun Jun 22, 2014 5:13 am

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So reading back ZZZX is actually probably the jester and Rubicon is not.

And shinobi is town.
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Post Post #304 (isolation #30) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:50 am

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In post 72, ZZZX wrote:
In post 71, shos wrote:that was not risky, nobody staarting with 'I am jester. discuss' is a jester. I did that too with the selfvote, so I was pretttty sure he wasn't either.

I'm curious, AD, did it occur to you that the fact you put him at L-1 is risk of selfhammer? were you sure he wasn't jest too? or what? I mean what was that L-1 vote supposed to achieve?
Could that be AD jester slipping?
In post 113, ZZZX wrote:Well o now have a list of 4 people with a 90% chance of not being a jester including myself that I'll share soon
In post 127, ZZZX wrote:
In post 89, Rubicon wrote:The impression is of deliberate opaqueness, which is something I was weighing as a possible strategy before the game.

ActionDan, who are your top 3 scum reads at this point? And please walk me through that thing you said about Xayzeck not being the jester -- I don't understand that but I'd like to.

Also, ZZZX - you seemed to want pressure on Xayzeck in your first post. What have you gotten from the wagon so far? Do you think his reaction was town or scum?
The reaction was pretty lacking which is not alignment indicative usually but scum-xeg usually does it that way so I'm not sure

Psych is giving me jester waves. The perfect plan is being apposed by him because he might see no chance of victory? I am not sure.


I played enough jester games to identify who can't be jester. I just am not as good at finding jesters but psych really gives me the chills
In post 232, ZZZX wrote:Prod Response (my VLA technically ends after 2 days but I can handle those 2 days)


Well
Vote Psych
is the best non-jester lynch so far imo
In post 236, ZZZX wrote:
In post 235, Psyche wrote:
In post 232, ZZZX wrote:Prod Response (my VLA technically ends after 2 days but I can handle those 2 days)


Well
Vote Psych
is the best non-jester lynch so far imo
is it really that easy to play scum these days

Why do you think I am scum?

For the same reason. Why do you not think I am a jester?

This is an interesting remark. Makes you feel more on the scum side am i wrong?
I think ZZZX is a jester from these kinds of posts. Quick to say I jester slipped, Casual psyche vote + the blatant contradiction between ZZZX reading psyche as a jester than not as a jester, and I don't really care that for some whacko reason ZZZX found one of psyche's posts to be scumsided or something because it looks like moonlogic. The delays in posting might just be a tactic to get people frustrated with him so no one would want to save him.

Clearly as scum/jester this play isn't great, but I rather not overthink it with resorting to generalities (ZZZX wouldn't lurk as jester).

I think the desire to be suspected and lynched is here more than anyone else so far.
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Post Post #305 (isolation #31) » Mon Jun 23, 2014 8:51 am

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Shinobi's town for having the right mix of sass and sense (I'm sure everyone will say 'what sense'; Deal with it).
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Post Post #318 (isolation #32) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 2:49 pm

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In post 312, Rubicon wrote:So this has been on my backburner for a couple days.

Shinobi is town, we're never lynching that ever.

VOTE: hiraki

dance with me you scum fucker

Not that I disagree with the sentiment, but this is kinda random from you
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Post Post #345 (isolation #33) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 6:58 pm

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In post 343, Aronis wrote:9. shos: Obv town.
Notes: If he is scum, we're doomed.
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Post Post #348 (isolation #34) » Tue Jun 24, 2014 7:38 pm

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In post 346, Aronis wrote:
In post 345, ActionDan wrote:
In post 343, Aronis wrote:9. shos: Obv town.
Notes: If he is scum, we're doomed.
right.
Are you willing to help me lynch shinobi?
no.

I will probably not lynch Xay either.

The rest are TBD when I care more about this game.
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Post Post #378 (isolation #35) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:50 pm

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I mean he's the jester. I think anyway.
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Post Post #380 (isolation #36) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 1:51 pm

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Ofc that little stunt Hiraki pulled worries me.
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Post Post #387 (isolation #37) » Wed Jun 25, 2014 3:17 pm

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I'm this close to lol throwing game.

This close.

But I feel like I should wait until reads list.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #38) » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:19 pm

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posting.
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Post Post #451 (isolation #39) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:27 am

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Ya I'm still against this lynch. Can't we just lynch aronis first. There's not much of a difference
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Post Post #454 (isolation #40) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:47 am

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VOTE: zzzx

I just don't care anymore. Have your jester win
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Post Post #461 (isolation #41) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:39 am

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no need to blacklist him if not scum of some sort :/
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Post Post #463 (isolation #42) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:04 am

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Scum are probably Shos/Aronis. ZZZ.
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Post Post #464 (isolation #43) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:05 am

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I don't really care if I throw the game with such craptastic townies and apathetic scum.
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Post Post #465 (isolation #44) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:06 am

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In post 462, ZZZX wrote:Anyway I must say being lurky and not caring too much about the plans going on is the best move for the jester. As town has no way to dig throu it.
lol.

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Post Post #468 (isolation #45) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:45 am

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Blame scum for sticking to the jester lynch
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Post Post #469 (isolation #46) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:50 am

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Anyway this setup, while balanced, is lame
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Post Post #470 (isolation #47) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:52 am

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In post 466, ZZZX wrote:
In post 465, ActionDan wrote:
In post 462, ZZZX wrote:Anyway I must say being lurky and not caring too much about the plans going on is the best move for the jester. As town has no way to dig throu it.
lol.

You got nailed.
I got nailed but noone could prove it :>
I proved it to myself because scum and Xayzeck obviously didn't care
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Post Post #473 (isolation #48) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:51 am

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I'm happy both town and scum loses this to be quite clear.
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Post Post #478 (isolation #49) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:19 am

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In post 476, shos wrote:
In post 454, ActionDan wrote:VOTE: zzzx

I just don't care anymore. Have your jester win
(I was going to say that) this is a scum posting, because town can definitely say "I just don't care etc etc" but if he was really town then he wouldn't have VOTED with that saying.

so point is, if ZZZX is actually town, I suspect a Hiraki/AD scumteam.
Humor me as to the "Why" that's missing here.
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Post Post #480 (isolation #50) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:57 am

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Well you aren't town one way or the other. that's for sure.
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Post Post #482 (isolation #51) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:14 am

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If you for w/e reason you aren't the jester, than yes, hiraki would be the alternative.
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Post Post #491 (isolation #52) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:04 pm

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kllllllllllllllooooooooooolllllllllllll
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Post Post #492 (isolation #53) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:06 pm

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I basically ruined the good position scum was in to win the game.
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Post Post #497 (isolation #54) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:45 pm

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In post 290, shos wrote:why is ZZZX jest?
In post 304, ActionDan wrote:
In post 72, ZZZX wrote:
In post 71, shos wrote:that was not risky, nobody staarting with 'I am jester. discuss' is a jester. I did that too with the selfvote, so I was pretttty sure he wasn't either.

I'm curious, AD, did it occur to you that the fact you put him at L-1 is risk of selfhammer? were you sure he wasn't jest too? or what? I mean what was that L-1 vote supposed to achieve?
Could that be AD jester slipping?
In post 113, ZZZX wrote:Well o now have a list of 4 people with a 90% chance of not being a jester including myself that I'll share soon
In post 127, ZZZX wrote:
In post 89, Rubicon wrote:The impression is of deliberate opaqueness, which is something I was weighing as a possible strategy before the game.

ActionDan, who are your top 3 scum reads at this point? And please walk me through that thing you said about Xayzeck not being the jester -- I don't understand that but I'd like to.

Also, ZZZX - you seemed to want pressure on Xayzeck in your first post. What have you gotten from the wagon so far? Do you think his reaction was town or scum?
The reaction was pretty lacking which is not alignment indicative usually but scum-xeg usually does it that way so I'm not sure

Psych is giving me jester waves. The perfect plan is being apposed by him because he might see no chance of victory? I am not sure.


I played enough jester games to identify who can't be jester. I just am not as good at finding jesters but psych really gives me the chills
In post 232, ZZZX wrote:Prod Response (my VLA technically ends after 2 days but I can handle those 2 days)


Well
Vote Psych
is the best non-jester lynch so far imo
In post 236, ZZZX wrote:
In post 235, Psyche wrote:
In post 232, ZZZX wrote:Prod Response (my VLA technically ends after 2 days but I can handle those 2 days)


Well
Vote Psych
is the best non-jester lynch so far imo
is it really that easy to play scum these days

Why do you think I am scum?

For the same reason. Why do you not think I am a jester?

This is an interesting remark. Makes you feel more on the scum side am i wrong?
I think ZZZX is a jester from these kinds of posts. Quick to say I jester slipped, Casual psyche vote + the blatant contradiction between ZZZX reading psyche as a jester than not as a jester, and I don't really care that for some whacko reason ZZZX found one of psyche's posts to be scumsided or something because it looks like moonlogic. The delays in posting might just be a tactic to get people frustrated with him so no one would want to save him.

Clearly as scum/jester this play isn't great, but I rather not overthink it with resorting to generalities (ZZZX wouldn't lurk as jester).

I think the desire to be suspected and lynched is here more than anyone else so far.
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Post Post #498 (isolation #55) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:46 pm

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oops .

both were equally embarrassing.
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Post Post #499 (isolation #56) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:47 pm

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The only ones who didn't want to lynch ZZZX were scum. Xay was off but on in spirit.
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Post Post #502 (isolation #57) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:39 pm

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In post 500, shos wrote:
In post 493, shos wrote:AD, I'm gonna kill you. I mean, FFS, if you are town, and think ZZZX is the jester, WHY WOULD YOU VOTE HIM? just to piss us off?
I know I was not quite on this game 150% because my tests only ended now but really, had you not went against what you thought, you coulda convinced me :'(

really though, as one who thought he was going to lose, why did you do that?
I didn't want to fight the power.

I felt my pretty solid jester case for zzzx was all but overlooked.
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Post Post #509 (isolation #58) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:38 pm

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psst you weren't voting him
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Post Post #510 (isolation #59) » Sat Jun 28, 2014 5:38 pm

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In post 45, Xayzeck wrote:
In post 31, ActionDan wrote:Anyway, I think you post in general is a little town just because of your first sentence. I also do not think you are the jester. So much so I'd ask someone to put you at L-1 immediately to test and treat a hammerer as confirmed scum
(though not to be lynched until D4 obviously).
So if anyone has the balls to do so, I encourage you to vote Xay.
I have a huge problem with this.

Sure, I'd get lynched if it helps, I'm down for L-1 until deadline if that's what the town needs

But treating the hammer as confscum? Wouldn't that be EXACTLY what the jester wants?
Btw.
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