Open 560: Tit for Tat (Game Over, 4/12 alive)

[hephaestus]

Neil, do you have any scumreads besides Moonlight?

Moonlight, if neil is mafia who do you think might be his scumbuddy?

Also, hey guys! How's everyone doing?

[hephaestus]

Sleep tight Moon

[hephaestus]

Hey guys, sorry, I meant to post again much sooner.

Anyway here's some stuff:

My second strongest townread happens to be the Tammy/Wake slot. Even though he's done fuckall since he replaced in to get shit going. (yes, the tammy thing is a meta thing.)

Moonlight is town because Tammy was very likely town.

get your vote off Moonlight, that was Tammy's slot.

I kinda like you, Maru, but Moonlight was Tammy, so suspecting her is silly.

...anytime anyone questions Wake/Dot Matrix/Moonlight's allignment, this shit. Can someone explain this confident townread on Tammy?

If Elmo is scum, same for N_M and Justin.

I want the following deaths {Justin, insanity, Elmo}

I'm not townreading Justin either.

Oh hey it's you three again. Can someone go beyond Moon's ad hominem and explain this scumread on Justin?

If you're lying and there's red text in your PM, you owe TSO big time.

Ns
NS
NS
NS

My little buddie~ are you scum?!?!?

Moon and Mala preparing to turn on the TSO slot? Or am I seeing things

[hephaestus]

Happy birthday Moon!

[hephaestus]

It's not even Moonlight's ad hominem.

?

I already explained early game why my townread on that slot is such. I have way more experience with Tammy than probably a majority of these players.

You practically only said it was meta. I'm sure your experience with Tammy influences your reads a lot and that makes sense, but for me that doesn't do very much when I can only take your word for it.

Is this all you have read?

No, I've read the entire game before picking up my role PM. These are just things that stand out to me now so I went back to address them. More is coming but I didn't want to make too long a post. I feel this kind of interaction between you guys has been happening a lot. I don't think both of you are scum though, I'm just not sure which one of you is.

[hephaestus]

Am I at L-1?

[hephaestus]

I tried looking into this Tammy thing but tbh I don't know where to start

[hephaestus]

You have three votes, neil.

VOTE: neil1113

I just hammered you.

[hephaestus]

No worries, have fun! I wish I was there

[hephaestus]

Heph, do you have any scum/town reads?

I've a town read on you love

[hephaestus]

Also neil is scum

[hephaestus]

I'm the backup role cop btw

[hephaestus]

Hey, at least something happened!

[hephaestus]

You cheeky bugger, you

[hephaestus]

Hahahaha holy shit

[hephaestus]

I kind of agree with Moon on the neil thing. I don't see why he would claim VT or say I'm scum if he believed he'd been hammered and knew he was gonna flip scum. Also in Moon's defense, I also didn't think Not_Mafia was necessarily scum. Sure, the quickhammer doesn't make sense for a townie, but it makes even less sense for scum to do imho. I mean, basically all scum have to do in this game is sit back and wait for town to get lynched (sorry but nobody seemed to have a clue as to where to look for scum before this whole thing went down), so why would a mafioso give themselves away like that? It makes more sense for a townie to get fed up and go "fuck it" than for scum to throw away a game that's going pretty well for them.

[hephaestus]

And scum will claim VT if there's a chance their wagon disassembles, which there was here,

Not if neil thought he had been hammered..

[hephaestus]

Laugh at me if you'd like but, the paranoid conspiracy theorist in me says neil/Not_Mafia scum team and this whole thing was planned. Mostly because neil is still ringing alarm bells for me and you can notice him moving suspicion onto Moonlight as soon as Not_Mafia voted for him (Moon).

[hephaestus]

Speaking of which, neil has been sheeping Not_Mafia ever since he took the slot

[hephaestus]

Hahaha someone just hammer neil pls

[hephaestus]

lmao

[hephaestus]

If Heph isn't scum, then they are the most stupidly pathetic town player I've ever seen play this game. I'm not shocked they'd be laughing at setting up a town lynch. We were screwed once Heph drew a power role anyways, so there's not much we can do when our town power is in the hands of a VI.

... you just hammered yourself by accident tho

[hephaestus]

Moonlight has got to be scum

Right?

I don't trust my own judgement anymore

[hephaestus]

Apologies for my absence btw

[hephaestus]

"This LyLo is a snoozefest so I'm going to quickvote and let scum quicklynch" okay.

[hephaestus]

Tbqh, I'm thinking of voting notscience here as I really do not think it makes sense for Not Mafia and Moonlight to be scum together. If they planned in their PT to stage this whole affair then just wow.

This is actually exactly what I was thinking. I'm down to lynch ns

[hephaestus]

Your guess is as good as mine really. But let's anyway

Moon, you've given off some pretty scummy vibes and practically the only defense I've seen given by others for your innocence is that you used to be Tammy.. I've been scumreading you pretty consistently though and I should probably follow through on that but I keep getting sidetracked somehow and basically I'm doubting everything right now. I've just kind of accepted that insanity is town because

I feel it in my heart

tbh I have nothing to go on otherwise.. I mean she could be scum but if that's true I'm just so wrong and there's really no point in listening to me at all.

I know I should back up my reads with like, tangible references and stuff but to be honest I don't remember exact examples just my overall thoughts when first reading the game. I will try to muster up the motivation to read back though or at least look at some ISOs.

I don't think TSO was obvtown btw I mean he did seem pretty town but notscience seems like he's just trying to see if he can win a game as scum by doing nothing except say "i'm town" every so often. If ns were town they should've replaced out when they realised they weren't up to this game and give us a chance at winning rather than hang around and cause even more chaos for scum to thrive in

[hephaestus]

.. but then again confusing being a dick w being mafia is what made me vote for neil's mislynch -_-'

[hephaestus]

oh, you

[hephaestus]

insanity018, hephaestus, Moonlight
A) Go to sleep
B) Don't go to sleep

B

[hephaestus]

I've been wanting to see reads from notty ever since I joined this damn game but no luck so far

[hephaestus]

I'm the backup role cop btw

[hephaestus]

You think ns is scum?

[hephaestus]

Spoiler:

he scum

[hephaestus]

are you meta-ing urself

[hephaestus]

what is even happening

VOTE: notscience

[hephaestus]

nooooooooooo

[hephaestus]

Guys I don't know what to say I'm trying to respond to this but I just feel like a tit tbh

I just want to say I did read the game but not having played it I think I just lost sight of it too much
I can try to explain my thoughts a little bit since I owe you guys that much but honestly I don't even know what happened
I felt like every post I read was just empty and I couldn't get anything from it
even when I tried to reread the earlier game though I should definitely have paid more attetion to the votes specifically
and as a result I just went with my gut way too much and convinced myself ns was scum


I'm really sorry especially to you Juls

[hephaestus]

I'm sorry ns Moon has every right to be a dick to me but you can shut your mouth like you did for the majority of the game anyway