Mini 1585: Muskoka Murder Mystery - Game Over

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/confirm

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When you say exactly two weeks for the day, do you mean that the day doesn't automatically end once a majority of votes are reached?

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One moar.

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Hi guys im a

Insert Role Name Here

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reinoe and Jakuzure are probs town (or one town, one mafia) based on the interaction in posts 37 and 38. If I was scum something like that would've gone in QT chat.

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Edit for 47: I meant 36 and 37 don johnson and reinoe

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@Chevre startfromtheheart's post 6 says you're scum. Any comment?

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Well, those reads are via random.org, but if I must defend myself:

1. No one has seen me eat any cookies since February 23rd, 2014.
2. My fingerprints aren't on the cookie jar.
3. Crumbs freak me out, so why would I eat a cookie?

seems like startfromtheheart's methods are whack.

You didn't answer the question: where the are all the cookies then?

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Oh Kush love that guy.

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Day 1's are too slow without mayoral elections. Oh well reading up on people's metas to get a good feel.

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Alright. I've done a quick meta read of the players who have posted:

• Konowa
  - first post is pretty non-alignment indicative. He's never played miller before, and I don't have a problem with him claiming. His posting style is by nature aggressive, looking at his other D1s, I don't really see too much of a different from that style in this game. The tone of his posts when he is town could be played in as scum pretty similarly getting a meta read on him later will require thorough reading.
  
  
• Start
  - I looked at one of his scum games X-Men Mafia and his tone is much more calm and less belligerent than that game.
  
  
• Anine
  - a New player no meta read on him.
  
  
• Super Mario
  - not many games to go on. But he seems as constructive as in Open 517 which he was town. He has changed his tone in the two games he has played drastically.
  
  
• Boonskiies
  - New Player.
  
  
• chaos
  - new player
  
  
• DJ
  - not really too much he has a lot of games, but nothing he's said in this game is similar to what he has said in this one.
  
  
• Jak-Caled
  - Not really a lot here for D1.
  
  
• Jak-Fei
  - Has activity issues sometimes and a varied D1 playstyle.
  
  
• Churve
  - His intro is similar to this gameNY 170 which he was town.

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Shoot, forgot to add something on my activity. I'm on China (UTC +8) time right now, so if I don't answer you right away I might be asleep.

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Alright. I've done a quick meta read of the players who have posted:

• Konowa
  - first post is pretty non-alignment indicative. He's never played miller before, and I don't have a problem with him claiming. His posting style is by nature aggressive, looking at his other D1s, I don't really see too much of a different from that style in this game. The tone of his posts when he is town could be played in as scum pretty similarly getting a meta read on him later will require thorough reading.
  
  
• Start
  - I looked at one of his scum games X-Men Mafia and his tone is much more calm and less belligerent than that game.
  
  
• Anine
  - a New player no meta read on him.
  
  
• Super Mario
  - not many games to go on. But he seems as constructive as in Open 517 which he was town. He has changed his tone in the two games he has played drastically.
  
  
• Boonskiies
  - New Player.
  
  
• chaos
  - new player
  
  
• DJ
  - not really too much he has a lot of games, but nothing he's said in this game is similar to what he has said in this one.
  
  
• Jak-Caled
  - Not really a lot here for D1.
  
  
• Jak-Fei
  - Has activity issues sometimes and a varied D1 playstyle.
  
  
• Churve
  - His intro is similar to this gameNY 170 which he was town.

Aww, I feel left out.

My bad missed you cause you were the first on the document I made this in.

Reinoe

- Seems pretty similar to other D1s. Has replaced into a lot of games, so hard to get a good feel.
What's up with that anyway. Seems like half the games played by people here are replacements.

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I would actually like to warn everyone about my meta; I seriously cannot remember the last time I completed a stay in a game, regardless of alignment or how I was killed. Sorry my meta isn't very fruitful! I hope I can change my streak with this game though.

Broodking, do you do this useful meta survey for every game? If not, why are you dioing it for this game among others?

This - For anyone who has low activity posting, if you seem nonchalant about the game or aren't contributing I will not hesistate to push a lynch on you despite your meta. I sometimes lurk in games, I know irl gets in the wway, but when you are posting try to make it meaningful and pro-town (unless you are scum obv).

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I would actually like to warn everyone about my meta; I seriously cannot remember the last time I completed a stay in a game, regardless of alignment or how I was killed. Sorry my meta isn't very fruitful! I hope I can change my streak with this game though.

Broodking, do you do this useful meta survey for every game? If not, why are you dioing it for this game among others?

I usually don't do it for larger games, but it seems like the pace of this game might be slower. Might just be because I play in larger games more often than smaller games and the community I usually play in has frequent posters. I just want to get the conversation going by putting out some reads and actual information people can talk out. Also, what do you think about the miller claim as a first post??

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(...) Broodking, do you do this useful meta survey for every game? If not, why are you dioing it for this game among others?

I usually don't do it for larger games, but it seems like the pace of this game might be slower. (...) I just want to get the conversation going by putting out some reads and actual information people can talk out. (...)

(The Quotes has been edited by me)

Your answer is logical. This game starts out really slow; perhaps everyone's too cautious. A pity that you didn't manage to get too many reads, in spite of your efforts. Still, that meta-read was a town-vibe post for me.
But you left out not only Reinoe but also the Misaka-hydra and Evilpacman and you changed the name order. I don't know whether it's singificant.

Reinoe was the first on my spreadsheet so I accidentally left him off. The misaka hyrda isn't signing it's posts, so I don't know who is posting and evil hasn't been posting. I think the way it was ordered was based partially on who posted when D1, but it's not really important in terms of the content of the reads themselves.

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Wait, what? Haha. I've barely posted. Why do I have 3 votes?

The reason why you have votes on you is because of stuff like this:

Anyone have any actual reads yet?

Town motivation for this post implies you usually have some sort of reads yourself, but you have yet to give those reads. Scum motivation for this post is to use other people's opinions to push a wagon without risking too much yourself, just basing your posts off of other people's opinions. Do you have any opinions on anyone thus far?

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Activity issues? Read my signature.

~F

That's an issue.

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Broodking, has post #68 helped you further any reads in this game?

From D1 posts I feel that Churve, Super, Start, reinoe and possibly DJ are town aligned. As for you Konowa, I see you are scum hunting but have offered little in the way of reads. You're a town read as of now, but I want you to post any reads that you may have.

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Broodking, has post #68 helped you further any reads in this game?

I like his 68.

It feels like he's a town player doing some prelim work.

He forgot me in the list though.

I can't get a meta for you because you don't sign your posts. That's at your discretion though, I'll respect the anonymity provided by being a hydra.

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Well, thoughts on the Konowa? Like you said, the RVS seemed not over, and yet I have 4 votes on me. At least one of them are scum.

Who do you think is most likely to be scum on the wagon then?

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Wait, what? Haha. I've barely posted. Why do I have 3 votes?

Konowa, though, voted for me out of the blue, didn't give any reasons, and then went on and responded to other things. I feel as if he thought that since I was picking up steam on the lynches, he could get a vote right in the middle for him not to look too guilty. Tried just sneaking that vote in. Not only that, he asked for reasonings behind a conclusion made by someone else, and yet he didn't give any for his vote on me. Explain please?

Cursory meta shows that you understand the game. #87 is pretty scumtacular though. But #88 makes me think you are in way over your head.

From D1 posts I feel that Churve, Super, Start, reinoe and possibly DJ are town aligned. As for you Konowa, I see you are scum hunting but have offered little in the way of reads. You're a town read as of now, but I want you to post any reads that you may have.

One of {Aneninen, reinoe, Jakuzure, Super Mario}.

Leaning on reinoe and Jakuzure right now.

Please point out, what meta you are referring to Konowa (what games, posts that seem informed)?

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Please link one of your previous games where you claimed miller first post, if you have one.

Don't have one. Thoughts?

One of {Aneninen, reinoe, Jakuzure, Super Mario}.

If this is a post of your reads, it really is quite vague. What interactions or reads have led to a realization about this bunch? Later you mention reinoe and jak, but don't indicate which alignment. The lack of clarity is reading scummy to me.

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He [Boonskiies] has less than 150 posts, and just doing a cursory meta search, meaning I skimmed, showed that he has a understanding of the game. Going "why do I have three votes? I haven't done anything" as he did in post #64 is awkward scum. The disconnect in his thought process in 87, he shows that he understands voting to try and get reactions but I'm "sneaking a vote in", doesn't click with me.

30 was vague because it was more of a mental note. After I claimed Misaka immediately addressed it but the following four went on with RVS shenanigans. I feel that scum would be more likely to avoid discussing millers because of awkwardness. Scum want to prolong the amount of time before they have to actually talk about anything. Due to experience I would have expected a town reinoe or Jakuzure to respond to the claim. reinoe did in post #35 address the claim, but hasn't done anything else yet. Same with Jakuzure.

More after coffee.

I see it very differently, so far Boon has

finished

one game and that game was a newbie game. Right now he is 5 games including a newbie, pretty in over his head as you said. I'm not going to go into details about his other ongoing games, but this post from Newbie 1509 sums it up for me:

After reading the thread, I actually believe it's probably best to lynch me so we have a better chance at getting successful lynches. We'll be able to see who jumped on the wagon without much real concern of putting reasoning behind it, other than the fact that having multiple replacements has made my slot look incredibly scummy.

Boon's understanding of the game is far from fully developed, and his first game really wasn't that long ago. While I don't like his play at all, the meta read and his relative inexperience is leaving me hesitant to label him as scum. The question mark bouncing around my head is: if he is scum where is the help? His posts don't feel coached and their quality suggests confused townie more than scum. If you can explain why a scum buddy would let this wagon keep gaining traction, I'm all ears.

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I can't get a meta for you because you don't sign your posts. That's at your discretion though, I'll respect the anonymity provided by being a hydra.

I, FakeGod, has done all the posting, and will continue to do all the posting.

Gaiden and I have a separate hydra QT in which we discuss the game.

This is what a true hydra looks like, by the way.

Yeah, I'm not gonna try and analyze Gaiden's D1 from Micro 305.

Do you have any reads in the meantime?

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Will post today after work.

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Sorry, I slacked and took a day off.

Post 434: Aneninen, I just pick whatever I feel needs responding to. Do you suggest something else? I ask seriously, because my education of how to play here has been rough even though I've been here many years.

Post 436: Antihero, I think you can "unintentionally" AtE. the parenthetical reference near the end of this post, 436, for example. You obviously wanted us to be reminded of your emotional crackage and take that into account when judging you. I don't think AtE is scummy because any player is liable to get emotionally invested and their feelings hurt, but I'm confused as to why you've put yourself in such a conspicuous role of leadership if you're so susceptible to breaking down. Maybe it's more psychological than it's worth getting into for the purposes of this game.

Posts 425, 438, and 470 from Aneninen; the emotion feels forced to me. Like he's scum and everyone around him is cracking and he's trying to insert himself into a mediator's position.

Post 447: Antihero's "1v1" comment is super perplexing, considering that no one is voting him, or barely suspecting him at all? But if he's scum it'd have to be some bizarre bussing situation where once the "1v1" leads to epm's lynch he'll be vindicated in the eyes of town--but he's seen as pretty town by so many already?

Unvote, vote Boonskiies

That reinoe vote, while I'm not entirely discrediting it, feels wrong. Meanwhile, I was looking through the players, because it feels like 75% have fallen victim to the noise of the other 25%, but Boonskiies' ISO is incredibly scummy.

A: Post 64 has a "why me fry me" which is especially unnecessary given that he later acknowledges in 87 that this wagon was little to worry about, and uses this to suspect Konowa
B: Post 201 is blatant newb card
C: Post 318 and 321, joins my wagon while adding no additional reasoning, then in 321 seems to get nervous about me getting quickwagon-lynched
D: Post 416, 421, 460, which are three promises to contribute in a row.

It feels like Boonskiies is newbie scum to me.

Sorry bout my LA guys, lots of work came up, but I'm back now and am reading up. I quite honestly don't think that he is scum as of now. I'll agree that he hasn't done shit in this game, but it feels too much like a townie who is trying to stay with the game rather then a scum trying to lurk to victory.

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mastin said it better than i can say it.

I agree with this, in one of my first games on the site neither myself nor Shadow Dancer had investigative results on the other but both came to the conclusion that the other was town and formed our own block that scared the shit out of scum.
Ones that form naturally are great, ones that are manufactured can be infiltrated by scum and lead astray.

Sorry, could you explain the concept of a town bloc? Is it a read list of townies?

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Checking in for the Prod. I'm reading up and will post thoughts.

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We're L-2 Cherve for anyone wondering.

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Haha I just woke up irl too.

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That kill really WIFOMed Konowa and Chaos.

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[epm/fakegod] + [anenien/broodking]

Is it scum1+scum2 or scumteam1 + scumteam2?

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oh yeah well it looks like scum bussed unless there's scum in epm and brood.

like, it looked so bad for me last night, i was like dang im on the wagon chevre was on at the end of the day, that must look bad
tbh i left chevre alone because that style chevre posted in, i had no idea what to think but

Here are my reads via random.org (don't ask how I got them):

Boonskiies - town
Aneninen - scum and PR
Misaka Network (Hydra of FakeGod and Gaiden) - VT
BroodKingEXE - PR
chaoslord54 - scum and PR
evilpacman18 - town
Jakuzure Nonon (Hydra of Caledfwitch and Feirei) - VT
Super Mario - town
don_johnson - PR
startfromtheheart - VT and town
Konowa - town

Chevre - scum - (VT aka goon)

reinoe - town

randomization gave us a good answer.

so how about lyncing aneninen or chaos today guys

If this list is accurate I'll slap BPC.

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I'm voting Chaos right now based on Chevre's soft defense of him in 588 and 614. Chevre's final interaction feels very manipulative when it comes to Chaos which screams bussing of some sort.

@Chaos what was your reasoning behind the Chevre vote?

VOTE: Chaos

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chaoslord softed so badly, how did he/she end up living

i havent re-read, well i did a little during the night (no energy now), and i dont even understand why softclaims dont die unless scum sorry. so my play has dropped off a cliff i think the past month oh well umm

i dont even understand, i think the NK is just not supposed to make sense

sorry rambling but idc really if VCA is considered scummy to you

VOTE: chaoslord

i will tell u that don_johnson looked the towniest of towns in my re-skim. very superficial skim btw. i was expecting don or

chaos to go

, or misaka if scum is really afraid of them or something

You thought chaos would be NK'ed? This post feels so right for some reason.

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I'm pretty hungover but we fucking lynched scum
I need to sober up and think on who the partners are

Feels like Chevre was buddying Chaos pretty hard.

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However, I have a question. Why did you unvote Chevre in 592? Because "you were not ready?" Hmmm... Originally you were the third one on that wagon. By that time it was pretty unsure that the wagon would reach L–1 later. Were you scared that your innocent-looking bussing could lead to a lynch? In 613 you mentioned that you would do a reads list and use the hammer but in your list (625) you wrote this: "Chevre - his last couple posts are the towniest he's been all game. he may flip scum but i doubt it." This is FoS at least!

chevre claimed VT already, he was obviously dying (i even said this when i acknowledged don's point about how we shouldn't run anyone else up). i unvoted because i wanted to do a reads list. i did the reads list and then left with the expectation guy would drop the hammer (exactly like he said he would).

But why didn't you want to remain on the wagon and did you draw anything useful from such a plan? AFAIS there's no good motivation to hop off the wagon considering you had a scum read on him.

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my problem with a FG and Anen scum team is both voted ScumChevre... why would both hard bus D1?

This is exactly why I feel Konowa is confirmed town at this point. If Konowa was scum, scum wouldn't have bussed Chuvre, so hard. It might have been unavoidable, but still efforts to derail a bus would've been made. That being said, I wish Konowa's posting were more substantive to back up my 95% townread on him.

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You went on with the following post. There were no arguments behind the statement. (Yes, you had posted your reasons on my scumread yesterday but I answered your posts.)

oh well, then i guess i have to stop thinking you're scum as long as you "answer my posts."

Besides, you've been ignoring the lynch of Chevre (who was a scum) and the Nightkill in your arguments. As far as I've experienced so far, whenever a new day starts, townies tend to talk about the lynch, the nightkill, the Votes... Ignoring all these topics is scummy in itself.

i explicitly

didn't

ignore chevre's flip and the nightkill. i actually explicitly mention both.

But why didn't you want to remain on the wagon and did you draw anything useful from such a plan? AFAIS there's no good motivation to hop off the wagon considering you had a scum read on him.

holy shit

context

i was lagging behind in the game and wanted to do a reads list and unvoted to avoid an errant hammer.

this should be obvious i was doing this from the

context

of the game and what i said re: new flashwagons at the end of the day yesterday.

to act like i was trying to prevent chevre's death is inaccurate and the basis of anenien's slimy argument.

The way you went about it was kinda strange cause there's only 5 or 6 posts in between your scum list and the unvote586. Your reads this game have been haphazard in general it's hard to tell who you really think is scum and is "scummy". That being said I don't think such an action is scummy, and upon a read through of interactions with Cherve feel you are leaning town.

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haha pressed submit instead of preview. Nevermind the post looks okay.

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every instinct tells me that scum bussed, and that scum wants us to believe that they didn't so they can gain towncred for it

this is very playing card like

If it was a bus, I feel like it wouldn't have started till the Chevre wagon started, because he is a strong player AFAIK.

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It's quite late where I am, so I'll post on this in the morning. The last wagon before Cherve was EPM, it's kinda WIFOM, but EPM was at L-2 I feel like scum could have taken advantage of that to get a claim or a mislynch. I'm gonna take a hard look at that wagon and EPM and post on it tomorrow.

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Everyone who thinks voting on me is a good idea:

Please, re-read the thread from 659 to about 674.

Frankly, after THAT part thinking that I'm scum is so dumb as if all of you were living in the same country as me. (YES, that was a serious offense!) On a 1–10 scale the ignorance I'm experiencing towards my posts is approximately 37. Until it drops to at least 8, I refuse to take part in this conversation. At L–1 I'm going to claim but apart from that, for such a town I don't think any kind of communication is worth the effort.

Anen you didn't include the response in 678. He was obviously worried about the hammer as is expected of lynching a player who isn't there. Your case is pretty rocky on a second look. The response to his response seems OMGUS. Seems like you're trying to make something out of nothing. :

What's the case?

This.
You started the day with 4 scumreads. They were merely names, no additional info:

[epm/fakegod] + [anenien/broodking]

You went on with the following post. There were no arguments behind the statement. (Yes, you had posted your reasons on my scumread yesterday but I answered your posts.)

i would guess fakegod/anenien
fakegod would have the balls to think he can still lynch me and anenien is still scummy for the reasons i said yesterday

Then you "happened to be on at that time", regardless of the fact that the forum had been quiet for more than 2 hours. You read my post, made a conclusion that it made sure your read and posted in ONE MINUTE.

Seems legit.

Not really. It's f---ing not legit.

For latecomers:

check out the time of my post: 659 and his post: 660. Check out the lenght of my post and the contents of both posts as well.

Besides, you've been ignoring the lynch of Chevre (who was a scum) and the Nightkill in your arguments. As far as I've experienced so far, whenever a new day starts, townies tend to talk about the lynch, the nightkill, the Votes... Ignoring all these topics is scummy in itself.

I'm holding off on FoSing Anen until I come up with a good reason why he would chose to pursue Antihero, a fight that was obviously going to be hard.

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the chaoslord votes are pretty bad.

..but hey, it's the counterwagon to scum so i guess i'd expect as much.

oh..

i dont feel like it's bad

but yeah according to my randomized list, anen is scum too, so i can do that too later. but that softclaim felt soooooo fake lol

Here are my reads via random.org (don't ask how I got them):

Boonskiies - town

Aneninen - scum and PR

Misaka Network (Hydra of FakeGod and Gaiden) - VT
BroodKingEXE - PR

chaoslord54 - scum and PR

evilpacman18 - town
Jakuzure Nonon (Hydra of Caledfwitch and Feirei) - VT
Super Mario - town
don_johnson - PR
startfromtheheart - VT and town
Konowa - town

Chevre - scum - (VT aka goon)

reinoe - town

^^^ This is the key!

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Upon a further look, I feel like Anti would've pursued Anen based on his D1 reads. I guess his response could be a newb scum response. Let's see where this goes.

VOTE: Aneninen

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Okay so I will explain the reason why I dropped originally the Reinoe vote and focused on Chevre. Because I started to lean towards Chevre being scum but still felt that Reinoe was scummy. I began to change my mind though because as I read more and more over people's comments I felt like there was more evidence against Chevre at the moment instead of Reinoe. So I changed my vote because I was hoping that during day 2 I could then find more evidence to help bring Reinoe down. But, I was obviously wrong so it wasn't a scummy play, it was just a bad read.

Okay, D2 who's the scummiest player now?

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hmmm i hope that's a good omen

it's not

broodking especially is making me rethink this

Anti what's your read on me as of now. At the begginning of the day you had either Anen or me as Scum. You're flip flopping on a wagon again, only this time you haven't addressed your issue with it.

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Anti what's your read on me as of now. At the begginning of the day you had either Anen or me as Scum. You're flip flopping on a wagon again, only this time you haven't addressed your issue with it.

i'm

flip flopping?

says the guy who was on chaoslord at the beginning of the day when he was catching heat (from the previous day+bert at the beginning of the day) then switched to Anen for little reason.

you're going wherever it looks like the wagons are going. i bet you'll vote me next.

if you have something to post in response, then post it. referring vaguely to a part of the game isn't going to convince me. in my memory, you had little to nothing to do with the wagon's end other than chiming in and agreeing with ME.

you must have dementia then.
the only reason the chevre wagon ever got derailed in the first place was because EPM barreled in like a moose with his "OMG ANTI'S SO SCUMZORZ, also i'm not going to read" which triggered the EPM-shitfest that took place. i rejoined the chevre wagon because i thought i might have been getting sucked into a bad scumread with EPM just being a lazy ass and i said as much because i said something to the effect of "this feels right".

with me 1) having the numbers for an EPM lynch (see: anen and chevre's professed opinions at the time) and 2) catching all kinds of shit from fakegod re: chevre, i don't see how you could think

i'm

the busser here. so... i bussed when it mattered and didn't when it didn't matter? that's backwards.

You are flip-flopping. You don't believe in your Anen case enough to push a lynch on him. You'd been hard pushing him all day until I jump on the wagon and then you hop off the wagon. What is your current read on Anen? Why has he completely dropped off your radar?

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@Anti: when did I ever say Chaos is not scum. Look at it from my perspective. At the time when I was reading up on Anen, Chaos had been gone for 3 days (minus one including the night). I personally don't like to push inactives, because it kills discussion due to lack of content on the accused's part. I think I had posted 15 times in the span between Chaos first D2 post and the beginning of D2, I was worried that he might be prod dodging, so I wanted to pursue other things.

Anen was and still is looking scummy, so I have decided to pursue that. His response to your response is focusing on small details and trying to blow up an unlikely scenario to make you look bad. I'm willing to believe your side of the Chevre wagon in that you were unsure of who to lynch, and I believe that aspect of Anen's case is shaky at best. Not the same scenario as of now.

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@Broodking

: I don't think I'm focusing on smaller details than the arguments provided against me. There were the following things provided by me against Antihero: (1) leaving the Chevre wagon (2) his later post in which he gave Chevre a towntell (3) giving away 4 scum names when this Day started with no reasons (4) giving a reaction for my long post in 1 minute (this post included a vote too) (5)

assuming a possible Misaka/Aneninen scum team and the fact that Misaka is coaching me (Misaka and me haven't had too much contact in the chat)

These are five things. Also, Don Johnson pointed out (more or less) (1) and (2) too.

I'm talking about your response to 660. You focus on the one-minute detail waaaayyy too much. I just can't believe that drove your vote. Your case on Anti could've been read in 30 secs quite frankly. Seems like an opportunistic way to put a vote on Anti.

This is a strange comment to make elaborate?

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@Anen ^^ The bolded portion

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@Broodking

– ???
It was Antihero who brought up and went along with the idea of a Misaka/Aneninen scum team (examples: 651, 663, 670). We've hardly talked to each other so far, so for me, it seems to be nonsense. Also, as Guyett pointed it out, we wouldn't have bussed Chevre on Day1 if we were scums. Also, if Misaka were couching me

would

I start a fight right in the beginning of Day 2 before they post anything? After all, I'm the newer player – shouldn't I have listened to their coaching in this case? ^_^

As for the "reading in 30 seconds". I've tried it myself later (scrolling to a new post in another thread, reading it, thinking about the answer, reading the answer) and it didn't work in 1 minute. I even shown a half as long text to my sweetheart (in our native language, the topic of the text was named by me) and told her "form an opinion while or after your reading" – even that took more than 1 minute. (No, she didn't know what the point of this experiment was.) So, I still think that piece of information relevant.

I feel it was pretty obvious that Anti had you as his top scum read going into D2. That pretty much forces you to engage. I feel like your response was a way of trying to draw Anti in a negative light as to make him seem more scummy than your case was actually portraying him as. Do you have a read on Misaka?

@Guy what do you think of the bolded part in 802

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VOTE: Broodking

just had another look at the iso.

i'm up for another "you can lynch me if this is town".

Vote: Broodking

What's your issue with my ISO?

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@Guy what do you think of the bolded part in 802

Not quite sure... I think it might just be an honest translation mistake as I think Anan is Hungarian tight? Maybe English isn't his first language and he just phrased that statement badly.

What I was thinking was a town slip. I'm not sure though.

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Why would it be a town slip?

Kinda sounds like he doesn't know what Mafia QT is and he is implying that Misaka must be coaching him in thread.

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@Broodking,

I'm not really following your case very well against Aneninen. If anything, his posts have been supporting the idea that he's town at least in imo especially since he's seeming to answer all your questions pretty well. What's still making you feel that he's scum?

Also what's your read on EPM or Boonskies? (Which I noticed by the way has been inactive for 3 days on here but has been active everywhere else)

@Guyett
Same goes for you. What's making you so certain that Aneninen is scum and what are your reads on EPM or Boonskies?

It really all revolves around the Cherve wagon and how I think it went down. Right now, I don't feel like Anen's story is accurately portraying Anti on that front. That being said:

@Anen, what is your account of the Cherve lynch? Who started it? Who were the most active lynch pushers? How do you think Anti handled the lynch in the early stages, as he did have suspicions on him from the start? Your wagon hopping theory could be plausible, but it doesn't match Anti's support of the lynch in the early stages.

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Whoops didn't answer Chao's questions. Boon I feel is town, he feels like noob town. See what happens when he is replaced.
EPM is null for me, his reads have been the opposite of most of mine. Which is weird. Given the numbers I'm betting on like 2 scum left, and Misaka seems scummier. Misaka has done nothing but wagon hop D2. Content wise Misaka hasn't really contributed anything today. D1, I was getting a townie vibe, but a lot of the stuff Misaka said in D1 hasn't carried over into D2.

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Thanks for the heads up Anen

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This push on Anti is bad. If he was scum with Chevre, why would he unvote EPM who was L-2 and go back to Chevre? If Anti is town, I could see Broodking being scum.

Post #50 and #52 feel weird knowing Chevre is scum. Why did he only ask Chevre and not Anen and chaos (regarding Bert's random.org list)?

Post #479 is a really soft defense of Chevre.

Posturing in post #617 around Chevre wagon without adding anything analysis beyond the soft defense in #479.

#750 and #798 are unnecessary cheerleading from the sideline. More sniping than anything else. Which leads to post #827, since if he believes that Anen is inaccurately potraying Anti the sniping in the previous post doesn't makes sense from a town perspective. Where is the pressure on dj at at that point then?

Vote: BroodkingEXE

Okay a lot of these posts have been taken way out of context.

• Chevre was the last person who posted of course I asked him as a joke. Notice I have been joking about start's post all game.
  
  
• Should've been more clear with 479. I was talking about Boonskies not Chevre. Should be clear that I am talking about Boon from the rest of my ISO though.
  
  
• I believe it's good practice to say L-2, so someone doesn't accidentally L-1 someone. I don't even understand how this is posturing.
  
  
• With 827, I'm talking about how Anen is presenting's Anti's involvment in the Chevre lynch which I don't believe is adequate. As for 750 and 798, I'm trying to understand what Anti's reasoning is behind his flip-flopping. He pursued the Anen lynch forever and hops off because I jumped on. He's not really talking to me about it either which is frustrating.

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HI CHEERY DOG!

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@Konowa: Funny no one asked you exactly why, but

why did you claim miller?

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anti, someone claimed miller?

can you explain the "tried to frame me" angle? i'm not seeing it.

Hi guys. I'm a miller.

Please link one of your previous games where you claimed miller first post, if you have one.

VOTE: Chevre

Lol, your other head doesn't tell you shit.

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Hey guys,
I'm coming down with a bad cold, so I'm VLAing for a couple days.

[BroodKingEXE]

Appearances only":

904 looks like FakeGod. The self-vote looks like FakeGod. The unvote MIGHT be Gaiden, but I'm not sure.

906 is definitely fakegod.

908-910 seem like Gaiden but FakeGod might be pulling our legs

913 and 915 are probably FakeGod.

917 seems slightly like Gaiden. Based on appearances only.

However,

I still kinda think all of it is FakeGod.

...i thought only fakegod was doing the posting.

I really don't think Gaiden has posted yet.

It really has been me, Gaiden, since the unvote.
Anyway, I'm at L-1. Has anyone expressed intent yet?
I only claim at L-1 with intent to hammer.

I want a reads list from you, or you get railgunned.

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Thanks for playing Misaka

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Konowa didn't respond to any questions nor my response to his case....

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@Konowa: You still haven't answered my questions and response to your case in 922.

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It's strange that neither Konowa nor Chaos got nightkilled. Either one of them (or both of them?) are lying or it's a pure WIFOM produced by the scums and they want us to lynch them sooner or later.

One of Konowa or chaos has to be scum I think =\

These posts especially I want to know why they're confident that one of the previous claims must be scum.

I'm not of the belief that tracker and miller can't live side by side in the same town.

@Cheery Okay short of role speculation, what is your content read of Chaos/Konowa? My opinion is that Chaos has been seeming more townie over the last few days and Konowa more and more scummy.

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@Cheery Okay short of role speculation, what is your content read of Chaos/Konowa? My opinion is that Chaos has been seeming more townie over the last few days and Konowa more and more scummy.

Are you going to say anything more to back this unsubstantial statement? No comment on how chaos' opening play was manipulative and likely to be scum? What do you think of chaos' play outside his play?

I just saw your response and I'll get to it in a little while.

Quite frankly Chaos explains that play well in 725. He states that he wanted to push a Reinoe lynch, and switched over to Chevre when he realized that was not going to happen. Combine that with his day two content and I see a townie Chaos. It's a bit hard to see cause he was LA posting D1, but I feel that thought process is there. Quite frankly it's similar to how you were pushing me D2 imo. You could have easily pushed Chaos and at least got a discussion going. I probably wasn't getting lynched yesterday.

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I'm not going to spoonfeed someone who I think is scum. If you can't take the time to read then I don't won't take the time to bother with you outside of getting you lynched.

This doesn't even make any sense. You claim I was being manipulative, I question it and this is the response you give me? lol

He's not spoonfeeding you his opinion. You should be able to read his ISO and your ISO to find out what he is talking about and give your opinion/thought pattern. Hint: you really only made one play D1.

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Okay a lot of these posts have been taken way out of context.

• Chevre was the last person who posted of course I asked him as a joke. Notice I have been joking about start's post all game.
  
  
• Should've been more clear with 479. I was talking about Boonskies not Chevre. Should be clear that I am talking about Boon from the rest of my ISO though.
  
  
• I believe it's good practice to say L-2, so someone doesn't accidentally L-1 someone. I don't even understand how this is posturing.
  
  
• With 827, I'm talking about how Anen is presenting's Anti's involvment in the Chevre lynch which I don't believe is adequate. As for 750 and 798, I'm trying to understand what Anti's reasoning is behind his flip-flopping. He pursued the Anen lynch forever and hops off because I jumped on. He's not really talking to me about it either which is frustrating.

Is this what you are talking about? Only thing I see taken "way out of context" is the second point. The rest of your refutes are crap.

1) Just because Chevre was the last to respond doesn't negate the fact that you -only- talked to him about the point. Why would you only single him out?
3) I think it's posturing because the L-2 announcement without actually talking about the Chevre wagon is off. I can't put it in any other words.
4) Hedge, hedge, hedge.

1) Not getting my point across well. Part of it was a joke and part of it was a reaction test. Either way, he had just posted and I had saw start's post. Yeah, I could have said "Anen, Chevre and Chaos you rolled scum in Start's list any comment?". You can read it how you read it, just part of D1 shenanigans.

3) Can't really say much more on this either. Looking back I was busy that day, so I didn't want to do anything too rash with the Chevre wagon as I had not read up.

4)Quite frankly, I am hedging. Anens posting at that point was reading scummy, but so stubborn it could be seen as a townie misreading the game. His content at that point was feeling more towny. What Anti was doing at that point was similar to what Anen suggested Anti was doing D1, making Anen's case more plausible.

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Please stop suggesting roles and stuff. I'd rather not play wifomic games.

What we do know is that Antihero didn't want us following don while he (Anti) was being run up yesterday.

soooo.... the logic is that i would get lynched, flip scum, and you would then proceed to ........ not listen to me and cement don's status as conftown?

how is this scummy?

If you want to flip scum, sure.

If it is scummy is what I want to figure out by bringing it to attention. There is no how involved yet.

@Cheery Okay short of role speculation, what is your content read of Chaos/Konowa? My opinion is that Chaos has been seeming more townie over the last few days and Konowa more and more scummy.

I don't know as I've still be lazy in not reading the game before I replaced in. (unlikely to change)

Their recent posts aren't wanting me to lynch either of them though.

Haha funny that you say that, cause I feel half the players hasn't been reading any posts past D1.

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@Guy: What's your read on Bert, or why is he so town? Apart from a couple of quotes from the beginning of the game, you haven't presented any substance as to why he is town (while you have asserted his townieness a helluvalot). I just looked over his ISO and feel it fits well from scum POV.

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@Guy: What's your read on Bert, or why is he so town? Apart from a couple of quotes from the beginning of the game, you haven't presented any substance as to why he is town (while you have asserted his townieness a helluvalot). I just looked over his ISO and feel it fits well from scum POV.

I've played a good few games with him and his playstyle usually is similar to this.... but I'm beginning to get super paranoid on him too now :/

I've never played a game with him personally, but he feels so far under my radar right now it's scary. His votes and suspicions are never too out of the ordinary and he hasn't stuck his neck out the whole game.

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I can't help but think that the apathy from anti is scum apathy after losing a member so early in the game. Like he did try push the wagon but didn't follow through with it.

A situation I'm rolling around in my head is that Anti kept jumping off the Chevre wagon thinking it was never going to take off, but suddenly Chevre is L-1 for the second Chevre wagon and he gets lynched on accident. That would definitely cause a lot of apathy and frustration seen in D2. I feel like Anti's activity when Chevre was L-2 supports it and am trying to see if there is a scum team that could have caused such a scenario. If I can find such a scum team, we should consider this scenario, but as of now it's the only that makes sense for scum Anti in my head.

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Kinda of adding on. I personally didn't read Cherve's long walls of posts, because I didn't want to get a headache. Was I the only one who was tuning out Chevre at some point D1?

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@Everyone^^

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Anen's alignment depends on Anti I think.

Why? Though I too find Anti scummy.

also, don got nked because he was never ever getting lynched...

Whut??! How the fork does that make sense??!!

My opinion is that Chaos has been seeming more townie over the last few days and Konowa more and more scummy.

I think both of them are town. (See my previous posts for explanations)

I've been WIFOMizing the game much more than anyone else, but that's because I haven't really had much to say - got a lot of distractions going on outside the site which should be much better in a week or two. I don't think I've really provided any good info in this game so far, so you could have pointed that out on D1, D2, or D3.

...and you all call me a fluffy and a content-less one? Take a look at Bert. ^_^

A situation I'm rolling around in my head is that Anti kept jumping off the Chevre wagon thinking it was never going to take off, but suddenly Chevre is L-1 for the second Chevre wagon and he gets lynched on accident.

Yes, I was talking about that vote pattern for a while during Day2 but somehow most of you ignored that. (By the way, the lynch was not an accident. it was Guyett – therefore I have some major town reads on him anyway.)

As for Chevre's walls, they indeed were to give us a headache. They were "so-called-answers-for-random-selected-bits" or how can I explain that.


VOTE: Antihero – not only because of the start of Day2 with that "less-than-1-minute-reply". I find your recent posts scummy too (an example has been given above). Plus, your crusade against accepting Don's opinion during Day2!

What I had disagreed with is his general support of the Chevre lynch. Scum motivation to bus Chevre D1 is almost nothing in my mind, unless scum overpushed Chevre D1 and wanted to bus for towncred or because the lynch was inevitable. I am trying to figure out the situation based on the votes right now. What you were describing in D2 was an action Chevre jumps off Chevre wagon, but I couldn't find the scum motivation for his push on Chevre, as Konowa is pointing out. If you can figure out why Anti did what he did D1 scum perspective your case would be totally valid.

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lol how come your posts were linked in the first one but not the second.

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lol, stop the madness

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@Konowa, I'm gonna ask this question again. Why did you claim miller D1?

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Yeah, people can just open up Konowa's filter and ctrl+f it. Easier that way anyway.

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I couldn't find anyone who was voting in a way that fit my Antihero theory. So I'm maintaining my townread on him for now. Thinking about it his apathy could be caused by having two wrong scum reads coming out of D2.

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@Bert Can I get a full reads list from you?

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I couldn't find anyone who was voting in a way that fit my Antihero theory. So I'm maintaining my townread on him for now. Thinking about it his apathy could be caused by having two wrong scum reads coming out of D2.

How does a way of voting impact Antihero's apathy? Or would if you had found someone with this way of voting.

My theory was that a scum player went awol, and scum were never able to come up with a counterwagon. No one's activity really matched that theory, and I was using votes to see where scum could've derailed the wagon. My original theory could've explained why Anti is so apathetic: scum died unecessarily D1.

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@Bert:

I really want a reads list from you.

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Konowa and anti r my gut scumreads

Like I know I will be under fire soon cos unreadable but I meant it when I said I'm too flat-lined to so anything about it atm

Normally feeling pressure gets me to react, but times r achanging y'all

Sorry, I meant all players. Should've been more clear.

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@Guy, why did you have a townread on Anti D1 through D2? Specifics would be helpful.

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What do we need a town leader for? If one exists they aren't elected.

Other suspects at the moment include Aneninen & startfromtheheart.

Why?

I'll get to that if/when I'm actually wanting either of them lynched.
I guess it doesn't hurt for why they're currently suspected though
Bert's random list at the start of the game seems like too much effort for town to bother taking. (and I believe Bert's usually a somewhat lazy town)
Aneninen's response to the tracking seems over the top, but there may just be newer town in there somewhere.

Oh My Gods. Sometimes I'm so "slow-minded".
We should not have asked why Chaoslord tracked Reinoe and me. We should have asked why he didn't track Konowa.

Because if CL is telling the truth then he can be pretty sure Konowa is scum without having to use a track on him

Why does it not make sense for the current claimed and known power roles to possible all exist as town?

I agree with EPM that that kind of a setup doesn't sound right. I haven't played a closed game on MS, so I don't really know if mods usually put red herrings in the roles. Tracker and miller doesn't make sense, because tracker+cop is OP imo. You don't have a miller without a cop otherwise it's a useless role.

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Scum tracker? Scum miller? No way.And I just don't think chaos has the gall to fake claim.

Why not? His soft D1 was pretty sudden and seemed like he wanted to get it out there. reinoe even linked a game where their scum team won in part due to a fakeclaim. His play also hasn't been town as I believe I've pointed out.

I agree with EPM that that kind of a setup doesn't sound right. I haven't played a closed game on MS, so I don't really know if mods usually put red herrings in the roles. Tracker and miller doesn't make sense, because tracker+cop is OP imo. You don't have a miller without a cop otherwise it's a useless role

Without a massclaim, it's hard to conclude this. As I said earlier, scum might be underpowered and a miller was added to the setup to balance it.

IdkToo good and on-point to be town guyitt

What does this mean?

If I assumed all the roles in this game existed, town would have a cop, tracker and a jk. That is way too powerful. Usually a player will have like 2 really townie reads, a couple more townie reads and some other ones he might check. That just eliminates scum way too quickly. If there is a cop, they should claim so we can confirm that a miller's existence is valid. They should not claim today unless Konowa's lynch looks inevitable though. If Konowa survives to D4 it might be a good time for a cop to claim too, if they have at least 2-3 interesting good or results (ie not a bunch of dead players).

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half of me wants to say EPM, guyett

the other half is like dude, it's anti-konowa

am i stupid

yeah i think i am

sorry ill try to catch up when im not mobile and unproductive

oh and my third half feels like chaos is scum, but then the fourth half feels like chaos isnt scum but is being setup as an easy mislynch

so there's that

my reads are in flux until i read the game

Bert is literally sheeping the events of the whole damn thread. He hasn't given me a full reads list as I asked. Bert wake up. VOTE: Bert

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Haha the image didn't load. It was super big anyway.

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As of now, I think the town plan should be lynch Bert, lynch Konowa if a cop doesn't claim tomorrow.

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Once I wake up, that is

Two weeks is more of a hibernation than a night's rest. Your reads right now reflect thread sentiments, but offer no actually analysis of your own. I mean even if you are busy, you're gut should be pinging something when you read a post.

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Cheery Dog:
Scum tracker? Scum miller? No way.

That doesn't answer my question.

Bert's new claim however kind of does.

If I assumed all the roles in this game existed, town would have a cop, tracker and a jk. That is way too powerful. Usually a player will have like 2 really townie reads, a couple more townie reads and some other ones he might check. That just eliminates scum way too quickly. If there is a cop, they should claim so we can confirm that a miller's existence is valid. They should not claim today unless Konowa's lynch looks inevitable though. If Konowa survives to D4 it might be a good time for a cop to claim too, if they have at least 2-3 interesting good or results (ie not a bunch of dead players).

Let's see, does a cop always exist in a game with a miller?
Nope
Does a cop actually in anyway confirm a miller claim is true?
Nope.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: BroodKingEXE

I personally played one closed game on MS, so I'm assuming red-herrings aren't all that common. Unless a couple players confirm that they are common, I'd be willing to drop this plan.

Thinking about Bert's claim, so UNVOTE: Startfromtheheart

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He protected DJ on D1 and Chaos on D2.

[BroodKingEXE]

who did you protect Bert?

Also, going off this did you breadcrumb you're protect names?

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He protected DJ on D1 and Chaos on D2.

Wrong. Chaos both nights.

My bad I missed that you said both nights.

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Also, did you breadcrumb the protect?

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how was I supposed to do that?

I understand asking for that from a hider or cop or JK, but a bodyguard with no dead/successful results to speak for including a no-kill of some sort, really?

Idk first letter of a string of posts, or something strange statement about Chaos. I'm just saying that if a bodyguard dies and they breadcrumb a name we can assume that person is town. Since you didn't, it doesn't help your case, but it doesn't hurt it either. I think you've been slightly better than Misaka for most of the game, but I just don't like how your apathy has caused you to be so cautious/not willing to stick your neck out. I don't like how you're voting for me over Chaos at this point though, given what you've suggested about Chaos it feels like he's confirmed scum to you. To me it feels like you're still sheeping wagons.

VOTE: Startfromtheheart

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don't like how you're voting for me over Chaos at this point though, given what you've suggested about Chaos it feels like he's confirmed scum to you. To me it feels like you're still sheeping wagons.

This is a really cheesy reason to revote me. Explain why a lynch on me would help the town, while a lynch on others wouldn't.

I think you've been slightly better than Misaka for most of the game, but I just don't like how your apathy has caused you to be so cautious/not willing to stick your neck out.

there are people who vote based on people's playstyle. that's what you're doing with your suspicions of me which apply to most players who have been lazy or haven't contributed much. Other than "sheeping wagons" - which is a broad term since any wagon that takes off must have enough sheepers... how are you voting me based on my intentions rather than my playstyle?

Your reads right now reflect thread sentiments, but offer no actually analysis of your own. I mean even if you are busy, you're gut should be pinging something when you read a post.

How did my reads reflect thread sentiments? Other than not carrying the weight I'm supposed to carry as a player in this game, I did not process and provide real reads.

As of now, I think the town plan should be lynch Bert, lynch Konowa if a cop doesn't claim tomorrow.

Having no cop claim tomorrow (why would a cop want to claim tomorrow?????!???) leads you to believe Konowa's scum? That's really dramatic, and having no cop while having a miller claim isn't as absolutely atrocious as you're framing it to be.

VOTE: Broodking

This is a really poor attempt to try to get me lynched. Way too half-hearted feeling, which is probably why not more people budged and moved their vote to me pre-claim. Also, there is no poignant frustration in your "attack" on me.

1) In 1120, you quite clearly pointed out that if Chaos is really a blue, you should've died or he should've been RB'ed. Not following up on such an assumption screams scum to me, because it suggests your claim is false.

2) You're feigning apathy to get by without providing reasoning for votes or active scumhunting. If you make a bad play, you can write it off as you're game is off as opposed to scummy play. By sticking close to thread sentiments, you don't raise too many alarms and keep your head off the chopping block.

3) Your follow of the game is dead on. Your posts suggest you are actively reading, yet you haven't provided any info or reasoning yourself. You've been doing the same thing you have wrongly accused myself of doing: posting fluff.

4) If you look at 1112, you see my actual reasoning whether you agree or not. I personally have played a lot of games in which cops D4 claim, because at that point you have a lot of results that can help town. I tried to make the tone of 1112 more advisory than imperative. At this point, we know that scum have 1KP and maybe a RB depending on how you perceive the events of town. As of now we have 3 blue claims (if a cop claims), and a miller claim. Even in the worst case it takes scum two days to get rid of investigative roles. That's D6 and with results we can lynch both scum in that time with days to spare.

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Lol, I see Bert had some cold water splashed in his face, and coffee running through his veins.

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Gonna think this over a bit.

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You're feigning apathy to get by without providing reasoning for votes or active scumhunting.

fact is you dont know whats true or not, or what happened IRL. i already explained i wasnt purposely avoiding this game

i joined this game to contribute and because i like the mod, and it wasn't my plan to go lol-watch-me-lurk for 1.5 months or however long this game has been going on. if i thought that would happen, i wouldnt have joined. stuff happens and i was withdrawing completely from crap for the last month and half plus

Gonna think this over a bit.

after my claim, you said the same "gonna think over this.' why do you need to say such things aloud?

i actually put in some time this afternoon to read Day 2 again, and I'm back to feeling best about chaos being scum.

VOTE: chaoslord

in a rush, will respond to that anen wall and whatever brood posted.

I hope I haven't offended you, it's just that I have a gut read on your apathy based on how you've been posting. Dealing with apathy is similar to how I would deal with trolling, both try to get town to ignore them citing emotion as a motivation behind their actions. If you really have been apathetic about the game, I hope you feel better, but my read on you stands. I think 1210 is more of a posting quirk of mine, I actually did think it over a bit because what you were saying about Chaos seemed somewhat legit. Also, I was debating on whether your claim would be tested via NKs anyway, and whether there would be an alternative lynch to you. All this setup speculation has me WIFOMing everything in my head.

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@P-edit: @Bert as for the second "Gonna think" it was just about your change in style. Trying to figure out if it was scum or town motivated and how I should be reading your posts now.