The Wire Season 1 Mafia: Baltimore Police and Omar Victory!

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I'm here yo. Will read later.

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That being said, a game where cops are scum!!! Yippie!

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When is deadline?

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dbg you should join too

we can form a townblock of gambiteers

Pants I never thought of you as a gambiter...

Plus a group full of gambiters would drive me INSANE.

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Is this setup bastard?

If I know DGB isn't a lynchee and wants to be lynched, I can go along to give myself more time to read.

I'd rather lynch someone else though.

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I don't have a read on DGB. It takes me awhile to do a proper catch up, especially without many lynch trains as guide posts. It's harder to do when moving but that's almost done.

We shouldn't plan on a lynch being at the last minute.

How do you know DGB is town?

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Why is SKOT town. Iread through your ISO. It is not much help.

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SKOT, do something really fucking townie please. I read your ISO while drunk. Me not pleased. Do something townie. Act like that mini game. Show me something.

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Prod didge

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Still haven't read. Plan reading Tuesday.

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Ok, we can infer that Antihero was a threat to someone, given the fact that there were plenty of kills that would be more useful to a scumteam if they didn't want to change the gamestate (meaning me or one of the other replacements).

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Xis is town.

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There's multiple versions of a traitor?

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Mastina, the traitor comment makes no sense. The fact DGB flipped means he can know he is not dealing with it.

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Look Anatole I am not putting Vezok in my scumreads, I just won't do it, he is insanely town. Only townies make posts about traitors and flavor while doing nothing else, only townies would jump to the conclusion DGB is a traitor and not consider her part of the main scumteam at any point!!! Only townies do it Anatole!!!!!!!!!

Don't try and convince me otherwise.

I don't care for this post. The sarcadm and flaily tone is not something I usually see from Slandaar.

His PoEs suck.

This feels staged somehow. Whether it is town stage for reactions or scum, it feels fake.

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lynch xisiq

if only to make slandaar mad

I read his ISO and there ia nothing that suggest a town process.
I'm down with this.

vote xisiq

Xis last posts are obvtown.

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I should be on Vezok

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Vezok

now with not broken tags

Thanks

Zmuffin vezok team?

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titus, master detective is on the case now

Totally. But I need time for the evidence to come to me.

*meditates* hmmmmmmmmmm

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Yeah I'd vote for slardar

Why aren't you voting?

I am not bc I am looking at reactions.

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Yeah I'd vote for slardar

Why aren't you voting?

I am not bc I am looking at reactions.

I can't do the same?

You can, if you think the same as me.

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VOTE: Zmuffin

Let's search for clues by making two roughly equal wagons.

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hey titus

why is xisiq town?

#604 comes from a really townie place. While I am not sure I agree with the substance, it feels like a similar voice to my own if I dealt with scum Mastina a lot (I haven't). How players think is something that pops into my head as town or scum, I'm more transparent with it as town.

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VCA tends to be more useful around day 4 or 5. Having wagons running parallel forces most of the game to pick between the two players. If one of the two is scum, this will pay off very strongly in the late game.

This was very helpful in NY 169 (typed the number from memory so that may be off) by Knight Errant. The day 1 wagon was confirmed to be all town but two unknown slots. Given the fact that wagons on town day 1 tend not to be all town, it gave me a good starting point. ISOed a weaker player and he was scum. Got him lynched.

So yeah, I want the wagons the way they are.

When I interact with players, it also helps get footing. I got my plans. Appeasing you ain't part of them.

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Can we just lynch Bookitty slot pls?

Why?

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I think the slot is still scum.

Why for the lazy?

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Slandaar got townread because he is town and he showed it.

Why for the lazy?

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With that being said, I think it's highly likely the slot actually is scum.

if i were scum, you'd be calling me the towniest motherfucker that ever towned

just sayin

Not with me here...

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@zmuffin: let's get a scum wagon going because scum got their fun thinking they have two town wagons they could force aislynch on.

so we're lynching this, yes?

Let's see.

VOTE: Vezok

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If we don't lynch Muffin, I'm probably gonna replace out, I can't really play this game in good conscious.

I'll wake you up.

Can someone actually explain why any of these people are scum? I don't really see much scumhunting/explaining at all. Just I'm right... over and over.

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all seriousness though, justin's scum slips look legit

What slips?

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Can someone explain the cases on the major wagons? Otherwise I just plan to toggle them for VCA purposes in late game.

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Give me a jingle when you guys decide to stop lynching town.

This is hilarious.

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If we don't lynch Muffin, I'm probably gonna replace out, I can't really play this game in good conscious.

then replace out

seriously

i think you're most likely town, but you're fucking awful at this game. if you're going to play like a fuckwit, then fuck off. like regardless of whether my lynch goes through or not, fuck off if youre going to be useless. i'm sick of seeing dumb fuck maggots who think they know how to play

i'm almost hoping my read on you is shit and you're actually scum because otherwise your play this game has been lose-all-faith-in-humanity levels of appalling

Anybody scumreading muffin after this post is bad at mafia.

That post is horrendous AtE that reeks of deseperation.

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Titus whos scum and why?

Hell if I know. I'm just trying to get reactions from people and read their behaviors to see if it's consistent with prior play. No one's really giving me reasons for scumreads though :S

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VOTE: muffin

Not sure I believe the doctor claim, but that will resolve itself in the night soon enough.

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it has to be

Yup. Totally ika. The bad news is that now ika's in a hydra I'm going to actually have to work to read him.

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hey AP

why is titus town?

There's no reason to townread me yet. I haven't got invested in this game because I was hoping someone would have some sort of reasoning to get under the hood on. There hasn't been much really. The only read I have is X is town.

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what are you talking about? we are lynching vezok.

He's claimed doctor, so there better be something more than a slip.

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hey AP

why is titus town?

There's no reason to townread me yet. I haven't got invested in this game because I was hoping someone would have some sort of reasoning to get under the hood on. There hasn't been much really. The only read I have is X is town.

since when have you ever cared about other people's cases?

I care about the logic underneath them. For instance, Desp's case is pretty sound to me.

VOTE: Vezok

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Anyone else think a one shot commuter and a full doctor makes little sense? I just finished a game where scum tried commuter with a doc? I was the real doc.

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I would ask town to please read the words people type

i'm scum, can I give reading a hard pass?

Oops I mean Im TOWN lol. That was almost a salamence moment.

ILU pidg

Ika do I need to go to mass now?

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VOTE: zMuffin

I'm onboard. That's really bad. ika, come to mass with us. Convince AP if you have to.

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do you think that was a slip, ap?

No it obviously wasn't, don't be coy.

do you think titus believes it's a slip?

I will just answer that. I do believe it is a slip.

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Vote: Titus

Last refuge of desperate scum.

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It looked like a slip to me. And there was some speculation about that slot awhile back. I still think my vote is on the right person, but I would be okay with Muffin being lynched too.

This is scum with Muffin. Gee, yeah I am utterly convinced Muffin is scum but I'll keep my vote on this other guy.

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do you think that was a slip, ap?

No it obviously wasn't, don't be coy.

Totally was. I would bet my game life on it being a slip or a horrible gambit. Zmuffin doean't gambit in games I have played with him in.

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VOTE: Vezok

Going to bed. V is scummer out of larger wagons. Will change if needed later.

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@AP,

ika is a very... unique... player that's never played with me before (the same can be said of pants)

titus, on the other hand, has played with me. anyone who's played with me knew that wasn't a slip; titus isn't dumb enough to believe that's a slip. and no, no amount of "lol titus, that moon logic, haha, she could still be town!" explains it because it's not moon logic, it's just titus being scum

but speaking of titus and moon logic, there's a distinct lack of "guys, X used the letter S in his first post. S stands for scum and he used S in his first post because he feels guilt from receiving a scum role PM. ill now proceed to tunnel him and ignore all protests about how fucking dumb my argument is. lol im obvtown" coming from titus. she's playing it off like she can't get into the game because nobody is writing lengthy cases for her to analyse but that's a load of shit

I didn't realise how little time there actually is til the deadline so titus lynch isn't gonna happen today but titus really needs to die in the immediate future

AP has played with me and knows that moonlogic does not equal the stupidity you made it out to be. Moonlogic is being 5 steps ahead and unable to explsin effectively.

You can try to insult me for wanting you dead and discredit me but it does nothing to move the gane forward.

Of course, if you are preemptively wanting not to be wagoned tomorrow, this post makes total sense.

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Unvote

Where is the shift to Vezok? We have like 3.5 hours left.

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Xis, you have the town and scum precisely backwards on your wagon but for Molla and Vezok.

Pants, you're right. I just looked at the VCs and missed the mod's extension.

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So we have 12 hours and I don't like the Xisiq lynch anymore. Even if linking the game where I failed is a low blow.

You've said you don't trust the Vezok claim, so why won't you vote the other likely wagon at deadline?


zmuffin, you can can it. I can say I know you're scum because of ~ongoing~ too. The only difference is that I believe I'm right and know you're wrong and desperate.

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No seriously guys. You unvoted cause of the claim?

Does that claim even make sense? We have a VT, a self activated treestump and a commuter flipped and you think a one person empowerer makes even a little sense?

This is probably his scum role instead of a strongman kill.

His role wasn't an enabler. It was bypassing roleblocks and heals, which makes sense.

I can see town having a lot of killing roles and scum having healing/roleblocking/silencing abilities... although town could too.

You know what I don't like...

Commuters and doctors together.

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In a 20 player game you don't like that there is a 1-shot commuter and a doctor?

Yes. I made the same observations in Revolution mafia.

The alleged commuter was scum.

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Xis's claim actually does make sense

Muffin NEEDS to die

100% needs to

Baaaaaaaah

You get sheep.

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I want to flip just so I can laugh at you.
But I'm town and want to see scum xisiq lynched.
Also titus is fucking scum. She's played like 5 games with me in the last two months and if she can't read me yet then she's bad at mafia.

My husband is not scum but I do rather enjoy fucking the plans of scum.

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Nope. I forgot the with in that sentence. I enjoy fucking with the plans of scum.

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Are we no lynching? I'll vote whoever but im about to hop in the hot tub so vla for 15 minutes.

Yup, just count how many don't believe the doctor claim but won't vote when push comes to shove. Pretty obvious he's scum.

Vezok
TheAdrianC
zMuffin


^^^^ need to die.

Molla can die but there's a decent chance he's town.

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RSD was pretty fucking obviously town from the thread anyway.

RSD, fight me yo! You're appearing too townie.

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I'm content with MC, RSD, Dr. Pants, and Xis as town.

VOTE: Muffin

Mama Bear's got her eyes on you.

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true, but there really shouldnt be any reason for me to be in anyones conf town pile

This is precisely why you are in the town pile. Scum (unless they are me) generally forget to attack townreads on themselves if they feel they are baseless.

You've been wrong, but I was wrong too. Wrong =/= scum unless consistently wrong and Mastina.

@Slandaar, not insane really? I've said that meta only helps scum. Sit down and watch me operate and catch the scum.

I've followed zmuffin's trail of bullshit. I can catch you too. You tend to be pretty one dimensional as not town (including SK and scum there).

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VOTE: Titus

seems like the place to start

Are you high?

The only people voting me yesterday were Slandaar (a scumread of mine), zmuffin (another scumread of mine) and SKOT, confirmed scum.

I do apologize for my absence. It was due to meat world issues and across all games.

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I'm looking over that ISO. Then I'll be skipping to VCA later today... (hopefully)

Both Skot and BooKitty followed each other for their RVS votes... [remind me of this for VCA]. They both vote and stop voting DGB similarly in their ISO.

#590, zmuffin prefers another lynch to skot

and that's a brief skim.

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Oh I'm Mrs. Broadus by the way.

Sorry if I am a little slower. I just got into a minor (I hope) car accident today.

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Oh I'm Mrs. Broadus by the way.

Sorry if I am a little slower. I just got into a minor (I hope) car accident today.

Hope everything's ok.

Isn't that like a super minor character compared to all the other confirmed roles?

I haven't watched the show but this sounds a bit like the rolefish.

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@Anatole, Look at 1570. What about their ISO together makes you think Zmuffin is town? Include BooKitty please.

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Zmuffin, I'd need to look more at context. Gut says yes. I'd have to look and see alternatives at the time.

As for 590, depends on your definition of just replaced in.

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Dr. Pants, the flavor kill could be a strongman or something. Don't speculate as to the flavor. It would be immensely helpful if you could copy paste VCs.

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Dr. Pants, the flavor kill could be a strongman or something. Don't speculate as to the flavor. It would be immensely helpful if you could copy paste VCs.

But this means scum new on day 1 that someone besides themselves killed PV

Explain please. I also think there's a typo here since on DAy 1 you couldn't have killed PV.

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actually i meant day 2 :p

THey could make the same deduction you did if they didn't kill him via multiple methods.

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VOTE: zmuffin

Willing to switch to Slandaar but pretty sure Muffin is scum and I take pretty sure over scumread.

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Ok seriously, known counterwagon to known scum scum taking advantage of my irl issues. At least one of Slandaar zmuffin is scum.

Why have people assumed I am a VT? Because I haven't gone crazy yet,

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SKOT was scum. I was the counterwagon.

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The last wagons. Only skot and I were options.

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Lol. Desperate much Slandaar.

If people liked SKOT, I was next up.

I am pretty obvious town. Lynch you.

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VOTE: Slandaar

Would prefer Z can take S.

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How many votes is that on him? I'm really liking the case on him, but don't want to accidentally hammer.

There is no case so that is quite amazing.

Where is the case you are defining? I do not think I made a Slandaar case in one post.

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Zmuffin packs don't matter to VCA when I do it. It is expected behavior that matters.

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My VCa cates more about who votes gimme a few days for this one

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Wow...only I can be a counterwagon to known scum and be the largest wagon the next day.

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Zmuffin stop with the bullshit. I am not scum and you know it.

I am VT. Mrs. Broadus.

Give me a few days for the VCA I have wanted for final reads.

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Same here.

Is there any town wagon you won't jump on?

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do you think adrien is scum or what's 1792 about?

It is quite plausible.

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I needed some laughter after a long day for work. Thank you.

Yup. You are likely scum or a secret protege of mine or both.

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So proof please? I want to see your counter evidence to my claim, both character, role, and result on SKOT.

What are you talking about?

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Mastina PM the thought to yourself

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By the way no claim is 100% town ftr. My teams have pulled off the wierdest shit

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Remind me what they are?

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##vote Titus

This is just the inevitable

You are scum. Sorry.

All I can say here is the votes tell the tale here.

At least one of Slandaar/Muffin is scum.


ActionDan is afraid of my vca and I am sorry for having a life and not being totally focused.

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You could still do that vca now if you're so inclined. It probably won't produce anything noticeable

I am on bedrest bc of a car accident I got into Monday. I cannot do it before a VC comes down. I don't have time. This is phonevposting.

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SKOT voted all major wagons bar Muffin.

It's interesting but I don't value it over the Titus case. We will see.

And I vote muffin...get lynched

I show muffin skot in sync...lynched

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Why why why does town almost always lynch me day 1 or when I am right?