Mini 1590: Brian's Flavorless Mini (Game Over)

[Marky Mark]

As much as I find it a little scummy how SKOT is trying to show his innocence by use of randomisation, espresso's reaction to it is more noteworthy.

The change in tone of post between #12 and #14-#15 is staggering considering how close together the posts come.

With regard to #20 by Prof Friday about finding 3 Scum, it is something that anybody might say as it is the usual setup, but more likely to be said by scum as if there was 3 scum they would no for sure.

Albert - I am curious why you random voted for bjc in #4 straight after somebody else had random voted him?

[Marky Mark]

Espresso's overreaction in #31 is screaming scum to me, the fact that he feels the need to defend his actions this early on and the emotional manner he does it in look very suspicious.

The way chaos not only defends skot in #32-33 but then goes sharply after his accuser also seems a little fishy this early in the game, and could potentially be a scumbuddy tell.

[Marky Mark]

Chaoslord is correct, SKOT's actions are null.

VOTE: Espressojet

Scum found.

VOTE: Clusk

I realise this is only page 2, but having this as the sum of your posts is bordering on lurking. Would also like to hear from Derivan and roflcopter if they ever turn up.

Albert - I am curious why you random voted for bjc in #4 straight after somebody else had random voted him?

Bandwagons generate information.

OK, I'll bite - so what did you learn from this one?

[Marky Mark]

To go from this

Don't really like how BJC is just posting short posts that mostly antagonize people and don't really seem to help with pushing further on trying to figure out who's scum. Also, he keeps jumping from post to post on who he's voting and already acts like he's figured out the whole game.

Keeping my vote on him for now until better evidence is revealed to make me think otherwise

to this

Okay that's good enough evidence for me for now to back off

Unvote BJC

So quickly seems very wishy washy to me, and the fact that you changed your vote over something as weak as the outcome of a prior game is looking to me like scum trying to start a wagon, finding no support and then trying to find a convenient way to back off.

Vote: Chaoslord

[Marky Mark]

Vote:BJC

Don't really like your aggressive and pushy attitude to try and get SKOT or Espresso lynched. Even if you favor speed lynches, to try and get people lynched off of very little evidence screams scum to me

It seems weird that you were so accusatory in your original post, especially since your justification was based on attitude, before you had actually meta'd the player. Why accuse someone of doing something and then a significant while later ask if that is usual behaviour for that person? Usually you look for evidence before coming to a conclusion, but you seem to have posted an argument and then "asked for evidence" to see if it was justified afterwards.

Albert, you appear to be lurking in plain sight as nothing in your three posts contains a shred of analysis or useful information. Would like to hear more from you please.

[Marky Mark]

That was a flaw on my part since I'm still a little new to this. I felt strong at first on my thoughts against BJC but then doubted my certainty especially as better evidence was starting to be presented against EspressoJet so that's why I then tried to see if anyone had evidence that could support or help me to willing to back off just because I started to feel less certain.

1.) I agree EspressoJet is giving off a strong scum vibe, as many people have mentioned above the way he was so emotional and over defensive when justifying his actions seems like newb scum to me. However there are multiple scum to be found so I don't see how Espresso acting scummy should have any bearing on whether you think Bjc is scum or not. As a town we are trying to pin down multiple scum players, so your "either-or" mentality between Bjc and Espresso looks like scum trying to find somebody to lynch.

2.) "I then tried to see if anyone had evidence that could support or help me to willing to back off just because I started to feel less certain." - This just reads scum to me. You are essentially saying you wanted to back off and so

then

appealed for evidence that would allow you to do that - trying to match the evidence to your actions rather than making actions based off the evidence.

[Marky Mark]

Convinced there is something going on within the Anatole/Espresso/Chaos triangle. Voting/suspicion wise both Chaos and Espresso are attacking each other and Anatole, meanwhile Anatole is going after Prof, who seems pretty staunchly town to me. #92 by espresso is particularly noteworthy and seems like a poor attempt to distance, especially as Anatole was under little pressure at that point and there seems no motivation for it from espresso (unless it was supposed to be #90).

Will leave my vote where it is for the time being and continue to monitor events.

[Marky Mark]

It was supposed to be 90. You'll notice most of my posts are broken up into two or three posts on occasion. Bad habit, I know.

I meant "unless it was supposed to be #90" in the sense of I couldn't see how what you wrote in #90 formed a substantial basis for a vote.

[Marky Mark]

Would definitely agree that Espresso is coming across as very desperate, the hard part of course is separating actions of a desperate newb from actions of a desperate newb scum. I think the target switching is pointing towards the latter, and #150 by chaos seems pretty thin which also makes me lean that way.

Will wait for claim/final defense before doing anything. If he's town there's no harm in it, and if he's scum it may well give us more incriminating stuff to use against his buddies (as it is, #130 is pretty much a roadmap to finding his partners if he flips scum).

[Marky Mark]

FUCK! I didn't want to die night one!! Goddammit!

The whole claim is very scummy but this in particular is very transparent, and not something I can see a legit cop saying. The whole thing about investigating people doesn't really fit your posts either.

Chaos you are off the hook in the short term, but I will be keeping a beady eye on you. Will

unvote

for the time being and hammer this evening as long as no objections.

[Marky Mark]

Good game all, well done town you made some very good choices early on that let you coast out the rest of the game. The sportsmanship of the tracker lurking to the extent he did is debateable but meh. also we could've done with a roleblocker or something to stop follow the tracker auto-winning the game but again, maybe I'm mistaken

Thanks mod for organising!