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Post Post #14 (isolation #0) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:05 am

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Just from what Thesp said in the signup thread and that he is using an automatic vote counter, I do not think that modvoting will be a necessary "thing".

VOTE: Save The Dragons
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Post Post #20 (isolation #1) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:12 am

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Zoidberg wrote:Because this is bullshit
Explain.
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Post Post #38 (isolation #2) » Sun Aug 03, 2014 8:42 am

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VOTE: Zoidberg
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Post Post #91 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:36 am

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Zoidberg wrote:It reeks of "oh look how little I know about the game setup, I'm going to vote totally randomly"

Because this was disingenuous, SK.

Nothing else really interests me so far.
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Post Post #92 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 04, 2014 8:39 am

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ZZZX wrote:and I wanted to vote you for not trying to help in the discussion but since you were in VLA I cant really blame you for that.

This is pretty awkwardly scummy as well.
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Post Post #137 (isolation #5) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:20 am

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The whole acting scummy to try and catch scum thing is dumb and ends up hurting town more often than not.

Zoidberg wrote:Not because I think he's a scumbuddy (because right now I'm reading Konowa p town) but because it looks like buddying up to Konowa and hoping we won't notice that MadCitrus is just piggybacking on Konowa's reads.

For what it is worth, I explained my vote in the post -after- MadCitrus voted. Honestly, I was not a fan of your mod vote either, but as I said earlier based on what Thesp said in the signup thread and due to automatic vote counter my view on that might be a little skewed.

There are a myriad of reasons why you wagon "stalled", Zoidberg. Sure, scum being on it is one. So is that it is an all town wagon and scum are cheering on from the sideline hoping that town will pile on. So is the possibility that scum see you as VI and are just avoiding the situation all together. That is what Maestro was talking about. You are focusing on just one of the scenarios and why your point of view is coming across very much as OMGUS.
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Post Post #138 (isolation #6) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:27 am

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Zoidberg wrote:So I hate RVS and thought I would instigate things to get the game rolling. I wanted to wagon Natirasha mostly for info, not because I find her particularly scummy, but mostly for info. I don't mind if that makes me look hella scummy and accrue a lot of votes if we get some decent info out of it. Notice how my wagon stalled? It's because there are scum on it. Probably 2, but at least one, guaranteed. They can't push the mislynch too hard or fast for fear of sticking their necks out.

This is really bothering me.
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Post Post #141 (isolation #7) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 9:44 am

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There is also that.

At the moment, none. As that would require me to believe that you are town, which I do not.
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Post Post #145 (isolation #8) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:24 pm

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SleepyKrew wrote:Oh, I know why! Maybe because it doesn't mention StD and the dice at all? Or maybe the fact that RVS was already over by the time he voted Nati? Or possibly it has to do with him saying he voted for info without telling us what this info is?

Hey there!

StD, why do you feel Zoidberg is town? Run me through his play thus far.
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Post Post #146 (isolation #9) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 2:25 pm

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Save The Dragons wrote:Was going to mention something like that ^ but now I don't have to. Woo hoo!

Also, what is this in reference to? The theory talk?
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Post Post #152 (isolation #10) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:07 pm

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So, you don't find #22 to be disingenuous at all? Calling your dice vote bullshit and saying that it's "how little you [StD] know of the setup, so you are going to vote random" ala some sort of fakeness to it rubs you as misguided town?

I am going to ignore the theory talk because it is stupid.

Klazam, have you given thoughts on Zoidberg?
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Post Post #154 (isolation #11) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:11 pm

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MadCitrus wrote:Hmm there are no flips in this game? I Don't see any mentions in the setup.

Zoidberg is scum. Incredibly defensive. Also on other sites I played voting the mod was in fact a reliable scum!tell when the player in question didn't have awareness of it (which is clearly true in this case).

Also shoving my counter-wagon just so. damn. hard. It's actually entertaining to watch.

I'm flattered that you managed to talk about me using more words than I've used this entire game. I guess it requires a lot of effort to flail.

*puts some popcorn in the microwave*

Ugh.
That is all for now. Maybe more in the morning.
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Post Post #155 (isolation #12) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:12 pm

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Just for reference for my ugh.
MadCitrus wrote:Also shoving my counter-wagon just so. damn. hard. It's actually entertaining to watch.
Think this is a bit misleading.
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Post Post #157 (isolation #13) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:18 pm

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Klazam wrote:No thoughts toward zoidberg. Im more interested in madcitrus atm.

The two are not mutually exclusive, you know.
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Post Post #166 (isolation #14) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:25 pm

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SK, what do you think of the sample town PM and the condition in which town wins?
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Post Post #168 (isolation #15) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:29 pm

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Klazam wrote:You're soft claiming third party there and i don't like it. As i said: only the scum or third party usually bring up third parties.

I think, at least in this game, it would benefit scum if they did not bring up third party and try and lynch them instead if they are getting that feeling? To be frank, I am getting a third party vibe as well and in reference to the town sample role PM it does not say shit about them, so?

There are a number of roles floating in my head right now, but I think lynching third party at this point hurts town more than helps.
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Post Post #170 (isolation #16) » Tue Aug 05, 2014 5:45 pm

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One last thing before sleep, all third party speculation needs to stop. Now. It is just going to open a can of worms that will again hurt town more than help.
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Post Post #176 (isolation #17) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 3:44 am

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Save The Dragons wrote:inb4 the twist is there is no twist.

Original Roll String: 1d13 (STATIC)
1 13-Sided Dice: (1) = 1
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Save The Dragons wrote:inb4 the twist is there is no twist.

Original Roll String: 1d13 (STATIC)
1 13-Sided Dice: (1) = 1


Because this is bullshit
Zoidberg wrote:
Konowa wrote:
Zoidberg wrote:Because this is bullshit
Explain.


It reeks of "oh look how little I know about the game setup, I'm going to vote totally randomly"


I can see how you interpret that. I think he is using the die roll to attack your first part of your post. I still feel it is disingenuous to effectively say "you are scum faking lack of inside knowledge then vote switch to Nati for "info". The subsequent explanation of his "gambit" just does not read town to me.
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Post Post #184 (isolation #18) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:03 am

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I agree with almost none of it. Assuming green is town, yellow is neutral, and red is scum.

Except maybe the vote, I can get behind that.
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Post Post #186 (isolation #19) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:08 am

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Not really interested.
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Post Post #188 (isolation #20) » Wed Aug 06, 2014 8:10 am

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Zoidberg wrote:But these from Klazam are not scummy. I have and do do this as town all the time.

Perhaps we are just crossing paths at different intersections or something, but I do not believe that I ever said Klazam was scummy for it. Rather that I would just like some input on you.
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Post Post #243 (isolation #21) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:25 am

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lol?
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Post Post #244 (isolation #22) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:26 am

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unvote

For now. I want to look at stuff.

Minor edit to remove semicolon after "unvote" for the purpose of auto votecounter. -Thesp
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Post Post #245 (isolation #23) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 3:28 am

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ika wrote:They mean absolutly nothing. I just randomly colored them to see who would bite.Anything else?

Specify who bit and what it means.
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Post Post #253 (isolation #24) » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:40 am

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Phone posting but I'm pretty confident SK is town. Based on the one post where I quoted Zoidberg saying I don't like this and SK pretty much says what I'm thinking. I'll post more specifics if needed after work.
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Post Post #376 (isolation #25) » Sat Aug 09, 2014 10:59 am

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Meh. Best way I can describe how I feel about MadCitrus. This is partially due to the bad votes by leviathan and Wolfy.
Vote: ZZZX


I need to read this game without having bastardparanoia taint my thinking. Maybe I will have a few drinks and then do that.
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Post Post #519 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 11, 2014 4:06 am

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So, I have been ignoring this game on purpose. I will get to trying to wrap my head around this game after I return from taking my kids to the fair.
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Post Post #610 (isolation #27) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 4:43 am

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Prod received. I feel absolutely awful in regards to this game. I see MadCitrus is at L-1. I'll try and catch up and get something out in a few hours.
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Post Post #615 (isolation #28) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:48 am

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I hate falling behind, because I hate playing catchup. Someone talk with me about why MadCitrus is scum because I do not know see it and I would rather lynch ZZZX at this point.
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Post Post #618 (isolation #29) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 8:53 am

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The only thing I could probably get behind is the IIOA, but that in and of itself is not enough for me to hammer him.

hiplop's vote on him is extremely bad. Do you disagree?
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Post Post #621 (isolation #30) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:07 am

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I am trying to skim his iso, but god I hate doing that. Since there is a specify point you are talking about, what posts? Would help me catch up more.
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Post Post #626 (isolation #31) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:17 am

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Thanks. While that does look bad, I am not sure it is as scummy as you say it is? One of those "Wouldn't scum be more careful about remembering things" type situation?

Like, MadCitrus just seems like he is in way over his head sometimes? I can't tell if it is genuine or scum trying to fake it though.
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Post Post #627 (isolation #32) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:30 am

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Meant to do this earlier.

UNVOTE:
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Post Post #629 (isolation #33) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 9:36 am

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I don't think I am saying too scummy to be scum?
I think I am saying that wouldn't scum do a better job of remember what they said?

Obviously he can be in over his head and scum, which is what I am debating right now.

Do you think hiplop is bussing then?
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Post Post #632 (isolation #34) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:05 am

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The distinction is fine, but I do believe there is a difference. I think scum would be more careful about remembering what they said so they do not face this. It is behavioral.
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Post Post #636 (isolation #35) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:19 am

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It is disingenuous. MadCitrus did not flip on your slot the way you are claiming in those posts you quoted.

Literally I haven't posted anything of substance in ~200 posts.
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Post Post #637 (isolation #36) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:20 am

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But you're scum so you're resorting to trivial attacks to discredit me. Thanks for admitting.
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Post Post #654 (isolation #37) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:13 pm

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Klazam, what reasoning do you agree with in regards to hiplop's vote on Citrus?
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Post Post #656 (isolation #38) » Wed Aug 13, 2014 2:18 pm

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Klazam wrote:Yeah, im not voting hiplop- seems town to me- his early posting is p strong and i think his vote of citrus has valid reason behind it.

Going back over hiplop's iso quickly, did I mention that I hate that?, I fail to see strong posting?
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Post Post #671 (isolation #39) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 3:55 am

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So, you think MadCitrus is town?
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without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #674 (isolation #40) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 5:30 am

Post by Konowa »

Wolfy, ZZZX, and Maestro's vote are being useless at this point. Consolidate onto either MadCitrus or hiplop and pleeeeeeeeeeease let's end this Day.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #695 (isolation #41) » Thu Aug 14, 2014 8:58 am

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Just because we have three days left does not mean we need to play out the remaining time, Citrus. Personally, I am a fan of faster Days as it gives scum less time to react, but that is pet theory.

Citrus and Zoidberg have both claimed VT thus far, for posterity.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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Post Post #897 (isolation #42) » Sun Aug 24, 2014 5:08 am

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I feel like I played well until I feel behind and them blah. I never understood why MadCitrus was being wagoned and I think that feed into my apathy a bit.
How many people long for that "past, simpler, and better world," I wonder,
without ever recognizing the truth that perhaps it was they who were simpler and better,
and not the world about them?
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